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in 2024, averkin became a participant in a new criminal proceeding, he was suspected of having produced and distributed materials denying the temporary occupation of a part of ukraine. this traitor is serving the russians so conscientiously that soon he may serve another article of the criminal code. it was the program collaborators and i, olena kononenko. if you want to talk about the kremlin sellers, write to us at this email address or simply on facebook. together we will send all the traitors after by a russian ship. we'll see in a week on spresso. in dnipro, men in camouflage beat a former volunteer and ex-fighter of the kraken special forces, who was walking with a child. what does people's deputy mykola have to do with this story? tyshchenko. this is svoboda live.
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my name is vlasta lazur. all that is currently known about the conflict between the deputy, ex-kraken fighter and people in military uniform, who are probably tyshchenko's bodyguards. see further. this video, filmed in the center of dnipro, began to spread on telegram channels in the evening of june 20. people in balaclavas, who were called the bodyguards of people's deputy mykola tyshchenko, twist a man in civilian clothes and put handcuffs on him. oh, oh, oh, oh, later, footage of the full version of the conflict appeared. the same man in civilian clothes is walking in the middle of the dnipro river with a baby carriage. he tries to ask the people's deputy why the people accompanying him are armed and without identification marks. we work within the framework of the commission's resources. why are you carrying a weapon? now we are at your service, please accept the application. later it turned out that the man in civilian clothes was a veteran kraka special unit.
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commented on his social networks, according to his version, a former fighter of the krakan special forces dmytro pavlov, allegedly connected with a fraudulent bot farm in dnipro and tried to disrupt investigative actions. after being given several punches to the investigator, who was working on the search , the man in the white t-shirt in the video tried to run away, and also demonstratively took off his pants in front of the police officer while making a statement on him. it is unacceptable to attack police officers while they are performing their duties. the qualification of this crime must be committed. investigation and court. radio svoboda also contacted dmytro pavlov for a comment. he is currently not commenting. the police opened two criminal proceedings in connection with the incident in dnipro. investigators are finding out who and for what illegally deprived the veteran dmytro pavlov of his freedom, because in the filmed footage he is in handcuffs. the subject of the investigation is also the minor injuries caused to the man. olga starashchuk, radio liberty. well, radio liberty also turned to... the service of the servant
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of the people faction, they said that they were shocked by behavior of mykola tyshchenko, but he, they say, does not belong to the political power of the president, so they cannot comment on his actions. formally, mykola tyshchen. really does not belong to the servant of the people party and faction, he was expelled from there for previous scandals, in particular after a business trip, or after a vacation to thailand during the war, but how close informal ties tyshchenko still maintains with the president's team and the servant of the people , this is a debatable issue, we are going to discuss it today, and actually which one influence does mykola tyshchenko have, and what does this conflict show about his participation in the dnipro? joining our broadcast is maryana bezugla, member of the people's deputy, the servant faction. maryana, how did you understand for yourself what happened in the dnipro with the participation of people's deputy tyshchenko and ex-fighter kraken? i don't understand why this is being discussed at all,
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i heard from you that there were some comments even from the press service of the servant of the people faction , on the contrary, they refused to comment, because what did they ask if you still... haven't for a long time in the service of the people, that's what we are formally not at the service of the people, by the way, i wanted to ask you, both informally and informally, he does not have any ties with the party and faction at all, because he is yermak's best man, maybe some informal ties are preserved, and yermak his i blocked him on all messengers a long time ago, and how do you know, well, after all, i still remain in the faction, yes, but yurmak showed you his messengers, where mykola tyshchenko is blocked, so to speak, a delicate issue, but the fact is that he cannot , of course, it cannot be said that if the deputy remains in the parliament, then he he somehow walks, talks to someone, gives someone a thumbs up, so to speak, if it can be said about mykola, you can call me a bit of a mother-in-law expert, because i tried to get him
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fired from leadership positions and succeeded, and i officially appealed to the leadership of the party, the faction regarding all that what he was doing and succeeded in expelling him from the faction and the party completely, that is, he is now, let’s say, such a brownian element in the parliament, and even if you observe how he walks around the hall, it is really such a chaotic movement, on whom bump into and who does not have time to escape. maryana, well, if you call yourself a tyschenko expert, then please tell me, you don't have to right away, then please tell me, and... if with tyshchenko, yes, yes, but look, if no jokes, we saw that with tyshchenko mykola tyshchenko is people in military uniform, without any identifying marks, people who were close to him admitted that it was his bodyguard, and he did not deny that it was his bodyguard, and this bodyguard is simply
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handcuffing a civilian man in the middle of the city , is it in general, how is it in general, what guard, tyshchenko - he is a typical dressed-up man, he comes to the verkhovna rada in some kind of paramile. it's shorter there with all kinds of tricks like that, unfortunately, i would, well, well, that is terrible, not only that, i had the experience of threats from the same hooded people with whom he communicates, yes, this is such a thug, my mom , my, they call him something, and in the 22nd year he just threatened me when i saw him sitting in the parliament, wait, there is a bandit sitting in the parliament, you call it? you're a bandit, i remembered maiman, that's the bandit with whom he communicates, if you do you remember that episode when he was allegedly handed a weapon there, like a military weapon, a prize weapon, this video went around, it's not exactly
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military, it was actually some kind of deftg there, i don't remember anymore, in short, it's that mayman, monyano, well you are saying amazing things now. wait, wait, who is supposed to regulate this, he is a people's deputy, he can't just come, detain, arrest him, we need, please, article 81 of the constitution of ukraine regarding the compilation of the powers of a people's deputy, and there are no options, how to wipe him from the verkhovna rada , unfortunately, besides he a majoritarian, and when he was wiped out from... the people, accordingly, he does not lose his mandate, he does not have this imperative command, and this means that he can walk around the city with armed men in military uniform and attack people, or i don't understand , which is evidenced then, of course not, of course not, and
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law enforcement agencies should work intensively there, besides, after we removed the immunity of people's deputies, if i'm not mistaken, there are already hundreds of different criminal cases there. proceedings and investigations that were people's deputies for these five years, so there are no restrictions for law enforcement agencies to conduct it again. so to speak, an unbiased investigation, what happened there and how, well, i will remind you then, if the position of tyshchenko, yes, he says that this is a volunteer and once, please, only i would not like to hear anything that comes out of his , so to speak, well, i’m just going to ask you a question, i understand, well, excuse me, you say that you are a tishchenko expert, so let’s just do it then, because i’ll remind you, i was trying to... exclude him from everything possible be in the parliament, well, well, look, he says
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, he says that this ex-military man, this is the guy that they put handcuffs on, that he is somehow connected with the fraudulent bot farm in dnipro and there he tried to somehow disrupt the investigative actions, and that's why they had a conflict, yes, but tyshchenko, but tyshchenko, he also positions himself as a people's elected official who fights with bot farms, with call centers, do you know what he has... about call centers, bot farms, what he generally engages in brownian movement in the parliament and in the country, let's say so, or perhaps an explanatory one brigade, i just didn't understand, you know, i'm sorry, i'm using my medical education, broonian motion is when chaotic, chaotic movement of small particles in the environment occurs, well, to put it very simply, this is how chaotic kolya moves through the environment. and in the parliament and in the cities with people in military uniform, so dressed, self-dressed,
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this is actually a tragedy, but there, well, let's say so, drama, well, he is not the only one like that, maybe he is, to a certain extent, somehow brighter, but such they were in the previous convocation, we still have a problem, here i am recently i wrote, i had a conflict with the deputy burmich on duty, who is an ex-general, and the former ones were not... the kgb is still in the parliament , and the security services have no questions about him, they were about medvedchuk, about the kiva, we know , as his story has already ended, and not burmich’s, well, that is, we have such characters, and when you look and see it, it is simply surrealism, i emphasize that pavtyshchenko, why was this a bit of black humor from me, because well i have, i have success. his extradition from almost everything that is official in the parliament in our country
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activity here even those shots are shown, they are very old archival ones, it was back in 2019, mykola asked me who i was to ask him about something. maryana, look, wait, wait, you, you said such a thesis in a weak manner, then i have one more serious question for you, as a representative, for a representative of the defense committee, please tell me, is it worth it? then somehow the wearing of uniforms should be regulated at the legislative level, so that people who are not related to the army, but it looks like these people who were constables in military military uniforms, they are not related to the military, at least no unit, no part has declared that these are their fighters, should there be some regulation of the legal wearing of the uniform, eh look, the same nuances of wearing the pixel uniform, yes, directly there and with the elements of clothing, it is regulated, but no one... can ban paramilitary style, so paramilitary style you can
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buy such jeans or a jacket in an ordinary casual store, and this is just one of the elements of style, and if you combine several such elements, you already have such a image, so there are some limits here regulation and there is no very simple solution to this, uh, yes, after all, i will clarify my position once again, how then... ideally this story should end, law enforcement officers should consider the role in this story of mykola tyshchenko and the people who do they walk with him with weapons, or what? well, i wrote in my blog, well, in social networks, that in my humble opinion, he should have been in prison for a long time, uh, nevertheless, this is the work of the law enforcement officers, in particular , an impartial investigation should be conducted in this case , and accordingly, if there is a violation of the law, then he must bear responsibility, but we know all the risks of the work in general, or rather, not
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all, the various risks of the work of law enforcement agencies, here are the recent scandals with nabu, even, at least, it would seem to him, probably it was a law enforcement agency with the best reputation, so the reputation is a bit watered down now yeah yeah yeah the thing is look at the spectrum yeah i mean we don't have any now. the security body is not there, well, you understand, this is a separate conversation, these are the problems of a country that is developing and growing, it remains here hope that will lead. mykola, no again, well , she will be noticed by law enforcement agencies in the event of a violation of the law, there will be appropriate reactions and actions, in particular, i emphasize and already said that we do not have a legislative mechanism of inviolability, and this was realized in an unprecedented number of investigations, detentions, etc.,
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etc. of deputies, compared to the previous convocations, and this is even about the fact that the previous convocations... such was the friendship with bandits, this is this, you say so, was he once very promising if a politician then something like that happened to him, he was always like that, as long as i saw him, he was always like that, volodymyr zelensky invited such a person to his team, it turns out , well, unfortunately, we have a team of about 250 people. quickly, and well, not everyone can say who had a passport and registered it with the deputies, well, you 're overreacting, but nevertheless such characters also happen and there are many of them, maryana, please tell me, what do you think, should there should be some reaction, for example, of the president to this history, for example, of the president, well, maybe,
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you know, feeling like that, maybe a certain political one, wait... do you think that tyshchenko is worthy of the president's attention? i believe that , you know, a people's deputy who walks around the city of a millionaire with men in military uniform and with weapons and threatens the civilian population, considering that he was brought into politics by the president, then maybe there is some political responsibility of the president or not? well, you formulated it so that it is possible that yes, but nevertheless it has been a challenge for a long time. you are from our environment, and here in the first priority should be the reaction of law enforcement agencies, as i noted, in the event of a violation of the law, the president, well, that is, he also has 24 hours a day and you perfectly understand the range of challenges, i do not fully understand, after all, yes, well, of course, you and i cannot
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understand the whole range of those challenges, and neither can you, in particular, but here, for example, i have just published. information is again being lied about the situation at the front, and at the same time , it just amazes me how much information is being hidden and distorted at all levels, and it cost us our lives, again i have verified the data that the fortifications during the breakthrough to turetsk were not properly done, and this is the same as in avdiivka, as well as in kharkiv. that is, it is a huge systemic problem, and these systemic problems of decision-making, state management structures as such, we have them at all levels, and it is a miracle that in fact we are still developing, we oppose russia and such a guyanese enemy and move on, i i understand, maryana, that against the background of these problems that you voiced in the last sentence, perhaps tyshchenko's personnel
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not so important, but again, i will repeat why we are talking about him, because he is a people's deputy who walks with people. with weapons in the city of a millionaire and detains civilians, it seems to me that it is still very strange here, a second, of course, we need to stop right away, once again we return to the assessment by law enforcement agencies, and what kind of people were they, and are there do they have a permit for weapons, or the right to carry these weapons, are they representatives of the armed forces, or are they some private security agencies, well , the police reported, the police reported that that the case was opened. let's see how it ends. thank you very much, maryana bezugla, people's deputy from the servant of the people and deputy chairman of the defense committee of the verkhovna rada. thank you very much. well, in odesa, in the meantime, they are looking for a man, a driver who, so to speak, dragged two military police officers on
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the hood of a car and ran away. the two soldiers are employees of the tsk, the incident happened the day before in the primorsky district of odessa. we are now showing you how it was on video, the footage shows how men in military uniform are trying to stop the car, but the driver does not stop and drives. one of the employees of tsk was injured, the heads were informed in the odesa regional assembly center, there they said that the driver behaved aggressively, and the police are currently looking for him. what preceded the conflict? in the dzk , they say that military personnel were alerting the civilian population. i will tell you honestly, i often have to translate. officials' message in human language, but i don't really understand what is behind this wording. however, for example, the odesa edition of dumsk notes that under this the vague message probably refers to... the distribution of summonses in general in odessa and in the odesa region, scandals between civilians and employees of the tsk occur literally almost every day since the last and loud fight between the employees of the military headquarters and doctors. what
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do odessans themselves think about the work of local military commissars? we asked them about it. listen about the work of tsc in odesa. how do you feel about how can you feel about it, what do you think? what kind of questions? well, it is necessary to protect the state, but only voluntarily. to protect the state required, but only voluntarily. this should be done by people who have studied for it, who have training. how is it possible, for example, to take a ballet dancer from our theater and force him to take a machine gun in his hands, and go into position so that he will be shot there. everyone has to do their own thing, artists can leave, support the boys with their singing, like my wife, an artist of our opera house. to support, as they say, the human spirit, and to grab - equally, nothing good. it won't work, it's enough, it's still good, nothing will work, i have a negative attitude, because to me it seems that they humiliate human rights in
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some cases, well, this is a war, someone protects the state, someone sits at home, whose side are you on, on the side of the tsk or? no, on the side of our defenseless men. how do you generally assess the work of tsc in odesa? very bad, very bad. very bad, very uncivilized, do not listen, do not speak, disrespect. about the work of tsc in odessa, how do you feel about it? and like everyone else, not very well. why? we have a little trouble with it. because everything must be within the law. we have a little trouble with this. i believe that the military commission of the vlk should be unambiguous.
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valery bolgan, editor-in-chief of intent odesa, joined our broadcast. valery, good evening. good evening colleagues. valery, let's start, first of all, this is a tsk employee with a car on the hood, what kind of story is this? what was there, what do you know, what was the cause of the conflict and what is behind this vague formation of the tsk about informing the civilian population. well, i will try to explain what, why we... managed to figure out, tsc employees tried to establish a mobile checkpoint, this is one of the streets almost
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in the center of odessa, on the nearby moldovanka, and ah, actually at that moment they tried to stop the car, which we see, the car stopped at first, but then something went wrong and the driver did not like the actions. employees of tsk and he tried to leave from there, the most interesting thing about this is that actually there were also police officers on the spot, but the driver was talking, judging by the fact that we managed to find out only with employees of tsk, and this raises questions, because in fact we see violation of traffic rules first by the traffic police, and then by the driver, i'm not you... absolutely the actions of the driver and he should be arrested and responsible for his actions, but this all led to this, the constant
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actions of the traffic police, when they break the rules actual car stops. valery, well, look, of course i wasn’t engaged in analytical work at the moment, but just judging by the news, i see that every day in odesa there is some kind of scandal in the news feed between the tcc and... in our country, unfortunately, this is happening, you already mentioned on the air about the recent fight with a quick one, unfortunately, we didn't have time
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to discuss this topic last time, there was a little. and after a short time, literally on the same day, in the same tsc in question, an employee was detained for trying to take a $300 bribe, and what did he take it for? in order to exonerate a person from mobilization, it is this tsc, which is the most interesting thing, that is, it is not even some fmmr worker, not a regional military commissar, it is the same employee of the same state committee that was before it. on several videos, he was seen as part of the scandals when public transport was stopped came in, tried to communicate with men and women in a very rude way. by the way, you mentioned public transport, as far as i understand, in odesa it is a very common phenomenon of minibus raids, because i see a lot of videos on the network of bus minibuses, is this a mass phenomenon, or are these some isolated moments? this is not just a mass phenomenon, it is
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a daily work. conducted by the tsc around the city, in fact, all the main nodes where public transport is located from the first half of the day, and sometimes all day, are blocked like this with mobile roadblocks specifically on public transport, cars are stopped much less often, first of all minibuses, trams and trolleybuses are stopped a little less. listen, they always behave like this, as we show on the video, is it more polite, are there... police officers, is it recorded on body cameras? not always so, in fact, in most cases, still it seems to me, ah, it happens relatively politely, but it depends on the actions of passengers as well and accordingly, or sometimes even drivers of public transport, sometimes even drivers go to a conflict, and by the way, although more often these are conflicts precisely with passengers who refuse to provide documents that
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refuse. get out of public transport, because sometimes the offer sounds like this: and men of draft age get off the minibus, the bus goes further, further, even before the fact of the check, i.e. just be sure to wait, that is, an employee of the tsc comes in and says, men of draft age to exit, yes, they should all get out, the minibus is going on, yes, and this is legal, what do the local law enforcement officers, local authorities, local the law enforcement has removed itself from any... any response to this, and there are even cases where the police are asked to respond to such cases, because people consider them illegal, and accordingly the police do not respond at all, i will say more, after the last few cases , the police unofficially refuse to go to the shopping center in cases where people believe their rights have been violated, because they do not actually have any
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power. and they have the maximum, the maximum they can do is to accept a person's statement about a possible offense, and that's why they don't they leave, they offer to come later to the paradise department and write a statement, well, but already during this time, a person from tsc usually leaves or does not leave for mobilization. valery, and last time when you and i discussed this conflict between tsc employees and medics, you said then, if i understood you correctly, that there were people among... these tsc employees who were allegedly not tsc employees, but in the same way, military uniforms help them, you, you can detail this story, what is it about? they are not in militreform, they are in civilian clothes, now you see, for example, handbags over their shoulders, very characteristic handbags, these are representatives of so-called public formations, and today we have another stage of scandal in odessa with...
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these public formations, there are more than two dozen of them in odessa , which were created en masse in 2022, and they perform various functions, according to the law, they have the right to help the police at their request, but here the question arises that, first of all, they have the right to help the police, the question of their help lies with the tsk , well, let's say so, no completely in the legal field, but they... are regularly involved. last year, there was a high-profile case when one of these workers broke a window in a car that was stopped at such a mobile roadblock, then it seems that this scandal was covered up, because the person actually refused further development, as if in exchange for the fact that she will be treated according to the law, that is, this is a very interesting
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wording, yes, that is... if you want to be treated according to the law, you from...

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