you look and this is the norm, well, of course, julvern can’t write like turgens, well, we don’t even discuss it, it’s me, but from this it grows, the 25th frame, no, well, that is, that greatness, in what way is the technology of promoting greatness, or is it what year, well, i don't know, well, it 's the 80s, i'm here, yes of course, wow, well, as long as i remember, nice yes, nice, nice, no, well, it's clear that... that's it bookmarks, this is a struggle with, well, with technology, with a certain unconscious technology, which must first be realized, and then it already means something somewhere there to fight and pull out these shards of this troll mirror, so all of us have these shards of the troll mirror cut off somewhere, so nothing, you don't do anything about it, well... this moment

definitely, that is, from the second side, you know, i also remember that zhabutensky visited odesa not so long ago, well, how long ago, so it was before the great war, that is, it was somewhere in the 18th or 19th, that is, she drove us, so the lady from the literary museum from the tour in odesa, she tried very hard and at each... step, she threw in such phrases, well, in a conspiratorial way, they say, how are we among our own, we, she knows that she is leading the writers, and she tried terribly to correspond, we already remember all the stories of kuprin garnetovy the bracelet, well, that is , the signs, so to speak, the mysterious signs of being chosen, which are exchanged by initiates, i just didn't remember. fairy tale garnet

bracelet, why i was not ashamed to admit it here, and it shocked her, well, that is , really shocked, because a well-educated person, an intelligent person belongs here to say how, how, yes, i remember, i remember nodding, and nodding in agreement, but in fact i felt somehow, well, really sorry for her, because i thought to myself then, i also thought, what do you see, a person has spent his whole life... and mastering third-rate authors, well, let's say so, not the most primary in the world of culture, because she was promised in childhood that this would be her pass to olympus, in the shadow of the chamber where the chosen ones gather.

by the way, somewhere this is also this place, that is , an attempt to create from these same simulacra some such substitutes, cultural intelligentsia, that's why the poet is more than a poet, because he is not, because the nobility did not happen, and the poet is a free-thinking person, and here is the question, and here is the question, what, and what, what can you say, i thought, then i asked i myself, what can you offer this woman, to say that she... you know, this is also a trauma, as

it were, the trauma of several soviet generations, that is, like my mother, who was a brilliant philologist of the soviet school, of the soviet, yes , when those books were needed, he published them there and published them himself, you know, to earn money one night, and it's not bread, it was in the 90s, when, when translations began, when proust appeared in ukrainian. translation, and she sadly looked at this same proust, these seven volumes, which i attracted her to in the translation, and said: "i appreciate it, i read 30 volumes of bitter, well, that's a feat, 30 volumes, no, i had to, the philologist had to, you understand, it seems to me that i have read all of solzhenitsyn, 30, no, you have read all of solzhenitsyn, accept my condolences, thank you, it was difficult, but i was just interested, but it is absolutely not." not absolutely that

i just wanted to understand why all these red wheels were not read, so i wanted to understand the political line, i understood, it was not a literary curiosity, but a political one, because... a cult figure for many kyivans, because andriiivskyi uzvoz is a legendary street. but here's kuplin, he's really a pit, ah, yamska street, it's not far from here in kyiv, so if brothels, then this is not a cult writer, white officers must live on the street in kyiv, uh, well, it's a little more complicated , you take it,

we won't have time, how much time do we have, 10 minutes, in 10 minutes we will not have time to cover, that means, all, all the cultural and preaching work that was carried out. the kgb under the leadership of andropov, starting from the end of the 60s, after bleaching, i am waiting for the simultaneous introduction of the cult of the white guard, and it started with the adjutant, his excellency, the same people went from andriyivskyi zvoza, films, these films were, that is, this is this the technology was consistent, the policy was consistent, bulgakov simply lay down here, one might say, like a puzzle, so you think the adjutant was in kyiv precisely for something and well, it really lay down and didn’t wobble like that, but in 10 minutes we ’ll cover all this, so we won’t reveal it here in any way, wait, i had some other one, i think some other one, but you’ve knocked it down like a kuprinim,

that is, if you search russian writers who would write about kyiv, in fact, they were and were quite interesting and... for example, here is also the question, you see, we are again focusing on something in ostrivka, after what remained, when, the sticks that remained, when the sea went away, aldanov, landau, good kyiv jewish family, and a beautiful story of death about kyiv in 1847, kyiv. ukrainians, poles and jews, well, the jews interested him the most, but, but there the balance is preserved, there is the cyril and methodius society, there is its defeat, there is this ideology, there is a confrontation between the polish and ukrainian elites, as the main nerve of the local life, and

there is a new colonial administration of russians who were new in kyiv at the time and... aldanov as a kyivan knew this, that is, he wrote, well, in principle, kyiv in the youth of his parents, so that’s really interesting, with from the point of view of kyiv studies, this is a really interesting story, but what i apologize for is that it does not fit into the ideology of the kyiv-russian city , they always spoke russian in kyiv, but in fact, for bolgakov or before kuplin, they saw russian kyiv, in fact, that was kyiv among those i whom they were. these were hermetic societies, one might say, yes, they were, they were bubbles, yes, they were bubbles, and the first, by the way, this innocently shot yurynets, wrote, it seems, in the preface of the 30th year to the vennychenko notes of kerpaty

mephistopheles, that this is the first novel, he said, that gives the image of kyiv, which it really was, kyiv. in which they coexisted, intersected, did not intersect, but in principle coexisted, so these same bubbles, that is, different kyivs, kyivs, that means polish, ukrainian, jewish, russian, there was also greek, i still found, i apologize, that means even karaites, and the karaite intelligentsia. so these were acquaintances of my parents, well, it is not obvious that if there were not, if they were not there, there would be no kinasan in yaroslav mugalov, in the 60s at least there were still the very last ones, that is, the remnants of the karaite intelligentsia, and so it was, these were the old kyiv families, yes

, yes, well, that is, it was a much more interesting city under inspection, well, the city, after all, like everyone else, yes , like every city on the frontier, it is a city, a big city. are not monocultural, yes, because there are, these are fairs, trade, trade routes, intersections and td and tp, if we talk about what there is, about the ethnic basis, then think. try to at least think about it, it's a very interesting topic by the way, and it's even surprising that no one with a conspiracy theorist has dealt with it, but if you analyze ukrainian anthroponymy, ukrainian surnames, from the point of view of ethnonyms, there is an incredible number, well , at least this way you can count the probable number, well, at least this way you can count a few dozen. ethnonyms, which are more unpopular there, of course, lyakh with all variants, polulyakh,

lyakh, lyashenko, lyashko and so on, lytvyn, which included belarusians, the old name, muskal, yes, moskalenko, moskalchuk and all derivatives, er, turk , serbian, ugrin and pohodyni, voloshyn, already spent, sorry, too, this word. nagayets, tatarchuk, tsyganchuk, zhidyuk, were renamed in the 20th century, for obvious reasons, yes, because this... stratum, i would say, is so linguistic and cultural, it fell out with this, with this word, which became odious from

russian political presentation, so in the ukrainian language, it did not have a pejorative pejorative characteristic, well, well, it’s as if you don’t overplay it, here and so on and so on, that is, somewhere in the east, there are germans, germans, greeks, hands from appeared after poltava and so so on and so forth, and it actually turns out to be so covered, you know, the whole of central, central and eastern europe, you can just walk around and look with a magnifying glass, all these parishioners, so to speak, but they all became indigenous, this is a ukrainian surname, then integrated into civilization, they, they... became local, so they were appropriated by local

communities, in these communities they received this surname in memory of their ancestor who came, but well, this is really very interesting to watch, the first interrupted such process formation of a political nation, interrupted by the pereyaslav council, relatively speaking, no , don't overestimate the pereyaslav council , i don't overestimate. the role of the soviet school of the pereyaslav council, in fact , well, let's say it was replaced by moscow colonization, it can be more precise, it can be the poltava defeat and, of course , the fall of the hetmanship already under catherine, that is , the entire fall of sich, the fall of the zaporozhian hetmanship and the end of the hetmanship and the transition of the ukrainian cossacks. her foremen of the little russian nobility, rumyantsev's reform

under dunayskyi, there was a change, a rotation of elites, so to speak, its transition to moscow, but this did not take place for so long, if you think about it in terms of civilization, how long is it 200 years, even less, that is, in reality, a real real colonization of ukraine, that is precisely, well , the loss, the loss of autonomy, the status of the protectorate hetmanship had and... and this is the part of the political culture that is our component, and it, it, it here in the genotype , you can’t do anything about it, but after kateryna, and after kateryna you can talk about ukraine already about the colony, i.e. when it spilled over, blurred, lost any signs of self-government, but nevertheless, please note, even with shevchenko, his target audience, i.e.... ukrainian, this is the little russian nobility, and the little russian nobility is had a separate status, they

were written as the little russian nobility, that means, but actually the grandsons of that foreman who transferred to moscow were still proud of the fact that they and i once destroyed poland, and you know that we once destroyed poland, it is true that your poland fell, and and opened you up. that is, shevchenko says, shevchenko addresses the descendants of these very hetman elites, already with the voice of the french revolution, the voice of the modern, european one. the ukrainian political nation, which did not exist yet, but it first appears in our heads, so in fact, well, historically, this is a fairly recent process, recent and not so long, that's why i say that we can actually look at it as something eternal, as such, if you look at it from the point of view of this ideology, which was laid down always like this, in fact it is a process of colonization that

was not so long, in many other european countries, no, of course, and therefore it is by and large. that this is the task of returning ukraine to itself, not even returning, but developing in its own direction, i would not take, i would not use the word return, it is not as difficult as it may seem, if you, if you think that this thousands of years, and these thousands of years, under our consideration, simply return to 150, these are no, these are no thousand years, no, well, 300 are added, 300 are added, starting from baturin, so this very brawl, you understand, fools. we return to mazepa's project, which then lost, but khmelnytskyi's project had its advantages, among other things, that is, i, that is, i would today, well, from today's position, it is quite anachronistic, you know, it would only be to scold him for, there were their own, no, there were their advantages, there was their own logic, and by

the way, our predecessors and such creators of the ukrainian political nation in... wrote about this perfectly, our problem is that we still they didn’t read it and didn’t even issue it, we don’t have a complete dragomanov, that’s it by the way, this is a shame and a shame, we don't have a complete antonovych, this is a shame, a shame for 30 years , forgive me, and drahomanovy, that there is john stuart mill of eastern europe according to the general recognition of the intellectuals of that time, so we have work ahead of us. our hands are full, but we are moving in the right, historically correct direction, and the stories are blowing and stretching our sails, the proof of why, so that it means optimistic at all, for the finale, look at how many cries and lamentations there were over the ukrainian book, all these 30 years ,

while we had lobbyists of the russian market, and this russian market was used as it wanted, and here, as soon as... well, as soon as they threw out, they really threw out, and only with a full-scale invasion, they finally threw out the russians from the ukrainian book market, suddenly it turns out that we have forgotten everything, you go into a bookstore, and you are only ukrainian there, and all the things that, you know, you could not even dream of, it turns out that all this has already been translated, well, the first wave, at least the patching of the holes of that , what was missing, here... this wave already went wild, you see, although 10 years ago ukrainian bookstores had 90%, 90% russian books, and several shelves of ukrainian books, now we have a market, we actually have a more or less complete market, which seems to have exploded out of nowhere, but but but yes, and now, i apologize, they are bombing

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has united around you, continue the political club program on the espresso tv channel , vitaly portnikov is with you, and we will devote the last minutes of our broadcast to... those events that are literally developing before our eyes, these are battles on the territory of the russian republic of dagestan, they are still fighting with unknown people who carried out attacks in two dagestan cities, makhachkala and derbentsi, they are talking about what was happening, there was an attack on... a synagogue in derbenka, a local priest of the russian orthodox church was also killed in derbenka, a shootout near one of the churches

in makhachkala, where people were hiding from the militants who were shelling this church, had just ended. information about the hostages taken by these militants, by the way, they turned out to be two children of the head of the sergo-kalinsky district. stangamed omarov, they were both killed, and now this head, district, official, high-ranking detainee, his house is being searched, by and large, of course, now they have already begun to accuse the ukrainian western special services of complicity in what is happening, this statement made, in particular, one of the deputies of the state duma of the russian federation without... from dagestan with the surname hajiyiv, but in fact i am here ready to agree with a person with whom , as a rule, i never agree with

the senate in my life. dmytro ragozin, he is now a member of the council of the federation of russia, a very conditional scenario of the redeemed zaporizhzhia region. thus , ragozin says absolutely clearly that in fact one should not blame the internal problems of russia on ukraine and the west, and this is much more accurate information about what is happening than all the attempts to draw ukrainians and the west to what happened in dagestan. in fact, russia really had... a lot of internal problems, including problems of an international nature, including problems in dagestan. let me remind you that at the beginning of putin's rule, dagestan was even declared independent, and the supporters of chechnya's independence went crazy. the vertical can burst into

such a fire in which... not only the church, but also the russian statehood itself as such, and this is what was talked about repeatedly in various comments on the consequences of the russian attack on ukraine, that ukraine was attacked not by some strong state with obvious internal stability, but by a very unstable state, a state in which representatives of some ethnic groups hate representatives of others, and all together... ethnic russians, and such a state should worry about reforms, about development, about the promotion of international relations, about a real federation, but instead of solving its huge internal problems, it should be such, i apologize, idiots, just a monument, the darwin award can be given to the russian people collectively, and to putin, well, not to the russian people, let's be politically correct, to putin with his camarilla,

they started instead. war with a neighboring state, emphasizing that the population of this neighboring state is the same russians, that there are no ukrainians, well, listen, while you decide whether there are ukrainians or not, you will deal with your own compatriots, who definitely are, and who have completely different views on the future of russia than you, i'm not talking about the fact that the situation is naturally so unstable, eh such a... feeling of marginalization that is happening in the caucasus, such a reluctance to participate in russia's military actions, because russia usually tries to mobilize as many people as possible from these national republics, it also becomes a broth for extremist organizations from various regions, not from ukraine , and from the middle east, from asia, these organizations can quite easily recruit supporters among the muslim

population, which is also marginalized with... lubyanka's efforts every year, and this is her real, real danger, it is real, not advantage, not enemies, not ukraine with the west, who did not plan anything bad against russia, did not attack russia, did not set fire to anything in derbentka, i am not talking about the level of intolerance, you understand that when putin talks about what in ukraine they are nazis, he is fighting the nazi regime, and in his own country synagogues will be set on fire. well, in the best traditions of the third reich, the population itself? well, the question arises, and what do you have with fascism? of course, this is also the result of wild anti-semitic propaganda that takes place in of russia after october 7 of last year, because the russian leadership is on the side of hamas, we know that, and it also gives a certain, i would say drive to such forces, but this is only part of the problems, and the main problem is that all the real

difficulties that are embedded in russian... statehood, not even in 91 and not in 17 , but since the time of the russian empire, they are not solved, or yes, the kremlin is trying to solve these problems by war, and as a result , it brings war on itself and collapse on itself , and what we see are beautiful illustrations all the problems that exist in modern russia, there is nothing to add to this, thank you, friends, please stay with the espresso tv channel, and i will conclude, for this broadcast, victory and peace to you, good luck, this is about politics, about the world , i am maria gurska, journalist of the ukrainian tv channel and editor-in-chief of the eu sister portal, we are talking with the head of the committee on foreign

affairs,