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to ukraine, glory to the heroes, you are now in donetsk region, can you tell where exactly, what is your situation, our direction has not changed, we continue to keep the defense lane in the horliv direction, the only thing is that our lane has been cut a little , in the battle of kocheretingo, where the settlement of kalinovo, arkhangelske, also, our unit now and then is on the defensive, the russians are trying to advance. in the pokrovsk direction, they write deep state that they seem to have occupied novooleksandrivka and approached the pokrovsk kostyantynka highway, how important is this highway and what will it mean for the front in this area? look, in fact, it is, let's say, a rather important logistical artery, but the danger of the vyhodontra is not even that they will cut some artery, because there are... a lot of access

roads to kostyantynivka and to other settlements. the trouble lies mostly in because they really want to get on the road, break through the chasivary and close the ring along the kostiantynivka-pokrovsk road, advancing from the time of the yaru and going on the road, turning right there, close the ring and surround our army group, which is located exactly in the turkish direction, in the horliv direction and so on. and i will say that it is not a very expected story, although we were there for four days in readiness number one. the enemy is a bit resorting to such and such deceptive tactics, they talk on open channels for four days about the fact that are preparing for assault operations, of course the security protocol says that based on this information we must all be in readiness number one, that is, the entire unit in positions, without sleep and so on, for four days they keep us in good shape, all the guys four days, you understand that if the people every day it dies out quite seriously, and on the fourth or fifth day they carry out an assault, if we... the maximum was if it was not obvious, no one

believed in him very much, because the enemy threw just all your efforts to let's say, to enter this route, to connect this ring, it was not very logical from the point of view of military science to go into a frontal battle, but for the third day the enemy has been storming our positions, so far there is not a single successful assault exactly where we are holding the defense, there are comrades there, they failed in one populated place, it’s just very operational information, i wouldn’t want to name it on the air, it hasn’t been on the news there yet, but there where... we’re holding on until we manage to repel all the enemy’s assaults, but our positions are already quite like this, let's say forever, beaten by artillery and drones in half and so on. what are the russians doing and who are the russians who are now pushing in your direction? look, the units are roughly the same as what is written in dubstate, there are some dener regiments and regular russian army motorized rifle regiments, but they mostly fight. with 120-mm mortars, if we are talking

specifically about the position, because they throw cluster munitions behind our necks and the art is working, and mainly they hit the positions with fpv drones and 120-mm mortars. how the russians manage squeeze a little defense, why theirs? well, i 'm saying, you see, right on our lane, i can say, well, i can tell you with absolute certainty as of today, that all the assaults were repelled, that is, i didn't push anyone anywhere, but our position is quite strong. that's how it works, you see, five or six days, that is , six assaults, seven assaults, 10 assaults on the same position, and sooner or later we have to transfer a little to other trenches that are behind us, so what's wrong with you, well, it's impossible to be here anymore, you no longer protects anything, that is, they disassemble the roof of the dugout and so on, in such constant swarms, that is, one, you know, as they say, if you hit the same point there 5, 6, 7, 10 times, then sooner or later, it it will rain, there is a certain logic in this, they have enough drones, they have enough manpower, they have enough art shells. there are enough mines,

that's why there are certain local successes, that's why they have somewhere, what does one such assault wave look like, what does it look like and what losses does the enemy have each time, nothing new, this is art training. i.e artillery is firing at the position, mortars are flying at the position, after which the position begins to be hit by fpv drones, and if the enemy in the air force sees that the position is really falling, our guys had to retreat, of course they are trying to enter our positions under the cover of their machine gun calculations there, but well, out of the six assaults, two of them deceived themselves, because they thought that our boys had left their positions, and very freely tried to advance towards them, there were six more of our boys who simply laid down. everyone who tried to go to our positions, that is, it is generally stormed by one, that is, write, that is, it is not large groups, so there are no such stories about exactly in our direction, about pickups, motorcycles and buggies in our direction, this story was used on the audio when we were on

a business trip there, but they also tried to ride motorcycles, well, this is the story, that is, you understand, they try to find some kind of shelter, where they get there either on pickups or on a buggy, two or three people are dumped there when... there are 12 of them people, they tried to go storming, but it's like well, you can directly call it a meat assault, because while they gather the necessary number of people there, our rear quite seriously painted them all there, mr. yevgeny, i am asking you this, you know, some everyday thing, because donetsk, it has a hellish summer, it's hot, if you even just ignore the military actions, and talk about the weather itself, and our territory is finally opening up to the world. and some people, i hear that they are terribly indignant, how come it's so hot here, as we have to be without air conditioners, when you hear calls to limit consumption a little and somehow help the country to survive, lack of electricity, how do you

hear that someone is hot somewhere, i think these are rather isolated and inadequate cases, because you know when a person reacts normally and ... invisible, we can see when someone reacts either positively or negatively for some reason, that's why they, if you know, focus on them, let's say, and as for without heat, it's really quite specular, i don't i know how it is in kyiv, i think that on the entire territory of the state, but 34-35° in the day is a normal story for us, and 14 at night, that is, at night it cannot be said that it is warm to be at the positions, that is, the guys are not standing at the positions in just t-shirts and armored jackets, but i want to tell you that this is a trench line, if, for example, there are some 2-3 hours of certain rest to be in the dugout, then in a deeply buried dugout, even with 34 on top of the dugout quite, let's say, it can be called, we escape from the heat, because the dugout is more or less kept cool temperature. well, i wonder if there is

a normal place to go now, well, i just read a large report on the ukrainian truth, about the fact that there are not always good lines of defense in case that when you have to retreat to... some prepared lines, how or are there would there be backup plans at all, if the russians still manage to push the front in the direction of pokrovsk? but look, there are definitely plans, we are doing everything so that it is not possible to push through, but about the prepared defense lines, on which we will have to withdraw in case of something, first of all, we have been holding the defense line here for more than one and a half year and there was quite a lot of time for our engineering company to dig up and do more or less. dense positions and there is some experience, because very often the battalions of our brigade are on business trips with other brigades on other lines, that is, they have already seen everything bad, and they have seen both very bad and high-quality ones, so i say, even today the engineer knows exactly how to dig, where to dig, so that it is, let's

say, reasonable from the point of view of military science, so that it is convenient for soldiers, for maintaining defense, so i will say that if those are the very lines that our engineer is digging of the division i... i would call them exactly high-quality. mr. ivan, the mobilization, which has been going on seriously for more than a month, mobilized more than there in six months, if you believe, there, for example, kostenko, romana. is this indicated, do you now have replenishment of combat units, how high-quality servicemen have been added? look, it does not happen so quickly, because i want you to understand, a person does not get to the front until he has already passed. educational center, that is, when the law first came into effect there on may 18, it took a certain amount of time, to mobilize these people and it takes some time to train them, so far these are isolated cases, that is, i can't tell you that right now there are just a bunch of people, based on the fact that to adopt a law on mobilization, so that there are still some of us they are restocking,

no, for now these are isolated cases, but we are waiting, i think it will take some time for people to pass the training centers, i wonder about that, but what about those dugouts where you can hide a little from the burning? your brothers talked about the incidents that happened on last week, about the beating of the military by some persons who are the people's guards. deputy tyshchenko, what is being said about attacks on the military, how it is being discussed, listen, you know, when you are holding a line of defense, let's say, in combat duty mode, that is one story, but when they have been storming for three days, believe me, guys in the dugout it's definitely not the opposing dog talking, it's the first, but the second, well, yes, someone there may have posted this story, but everything is clear there, that is , it's all outlined in one phrase, i don't really, i don't really want this phrase on the air. call it, let's go - let's say inadequacy very mildly, i just want you to

understand that they don't talk about it directly and don't sit there, here he is creating, they called him one word, i'm saying on the air it will be inappropriate to say this word and we are focused as little as possible on other things, that is, let's say, we are not doing anything, we have something to do, there is a place to focus and a little, let's say, more priority issues than tyshchenko, who is doing something for himself in the dnipro. kyrylo budanov, i will ask again, said that this war there should definitely not be every last ukrainian, and the solution should be technological solutions, but what about those technological solutions, as you can see in two years of war, how can you make the front impenetrable, relatively speaking for the russians, listen, well, for now, we probably it seems to me that we talked about it with you, impenetrable, we cannot make it for one reason, while the fabs and cabs are flying, that is, we can cope with everything, we have learned. we know that the enemy makes some calculations, we also work very cool with fives, we react to this as much as possible and

we destroy both the enemy's equipment, and machine gun calculations, mortars, as much as possible, but so that you understand, the factory will not be closed from this, and those planes that are released precisely at us, at our positions, so that we do not even have time to see them, that is, he flies quite far, comes in, you know that he can drop these fabikabs 15-20 km deep there, so we are really waiting for 16 planes and hope that the situation will really change a little, the air space will be more controlled. bypassed their slaves and so on, everything is spinning, is soldered right here at the front, at the front, there are certain laboratories where the guys work and they come up with technical solutions, but for today , you understand, a lot of time has passed and drones are half a dozen on... the story that it can be developed there, there is no, if, let's say,

some kind of end, let's say that, that is, we, and we have reached this end, and the russians, unfortunately, also have a large number of these drones, they also learned and to this day use them quite actively and professionally, what , thank you very much, thank you, eugene and a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, was with us from donetsk region, joined us, dear friends, we are going on a short break, we will return. let's talk with serhiy zgruts, a military expert about the situation at the front. stay with us. attention, a profitable offer. order the smart light bulb at a special promotional price. only 149 hryvnias. durable, reliable and so powerful. and the price is only 149 hryvnias. in stores, ordinary light bulbs cost more than uah 250. and we offer. you get a light bulb that lights up, even when there is no light, for just uah 149. take advantage of such a favorable

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now serhiy zorets, military expert, director of the defense express company, is in touch with us, we will talk about the situation at the front. mr. serhiy, we congratulate you. good morning, greetings to you, greetings to our viewers. mr. serhiy, they say that there were explosions in odesa, the dumskaya publication writes that there is a column of smoke over the city, and according to their information , a civilian object, a non-residential building, was damaged. could this be the revenge of the russians for what is happening in crimea and what a hot holiday season they have, eh. thanks to the ukrainians, well , russia is conducting terrorist acts of independence from what is happening in odesa, in other cities, because we see that, well, let's at least remember kharkiv, in what way well cabs are used against our populated cities, where civilian

objects are destroyed, this is in general, well, the usual tactics of the russian army, since a long time ago. a large-scale invasion, are there any events in odessa, in response to what happened in sevastopol, in any case, i think not, because in any case the ukrainian army does not fight against the civilian population, unlike of the russian army, and all its long-range attacks are directed primarily against russian military facilities, if it happens that during shooting down there... er our missiles are suffering er the russian population there or, in any case, this is a real response to what is being done and... and the russian army, in any case, we know that russia ignores all the rules of hostilities, and some of these consequences,

well, are happening in many areas, including on russian territory, and what basically happened on those beaches of sevastopol, well, the occupiers report that it was supposedly five attacked and od and they all shot down, but one deviated from the course and exploded over beach through... more than 150 people were injured and it seems four or five people died, even russian military personnel are wondering why this beach was operating next to a military russian military facility, which was obviously a target, also an image appeared wreckage, as it is claimed, on this beach of a rocket, a tor m2 air defense missile, which was apparently a mock-up with which they tried to shoot down the attack. and military bloggers themselves, even russian ones, say that this missile is not capable of hitting such a target as atakoms, but it is capable of killing people on the beach, well in any case, we know that russia really

places military facilities near civilian cities, in areas where the civilian population gathers, this is what happened in crimea, the fact that shooting down a takakam missile with a missile launcher is impossible, this is one of the ... significantly, but in any case, we did see debris, thor missiles on the beach, and that could be the cause there, the effects that this attack had, and the repercussions of that attack for those citizens who came to the beach, and actually , why citizens came to the beach in conditions where hostilities are taking place, and there is an understanding that crimea is an object where the military is stationed. an object of the russian federation, well, this is a question for the russian occupation authorities, let's remember the situation when the enemy was attacking odesa, all the objects in odesa, the beaches did not work, and this is

a completely different approach than that , which the russian federation is currently conducting, so the question is what happened on the beaches in crimea, i think it will now be picked up by russian propaganda, but in any case it is only one way of reacting to... actions carried out by the russian federation itself in crimea. we also ask what the situation is in the pokrovsk direction there, well, in particular, they write that the russians may have occupied novooleksandrivka, there is no official confirmation, but in this case they came close to the t-0504 highway, and what does this really mean, and is it true well, in this case , the russians can go to the fire control of slavyanskyi. kramatorsk of this entire agglomeration, well, when we talk about the pokrovsky direction, then it is for the enemy remains the highest priority, even if we look there by the number of combat

clashes over the past day, then a third just fell on the pokrovsky direction, primarily around ocheretny, because there the enemy is trying to expand this bridgehead, there are several directions and movements of the enemy, one precisely is uh, attempts to completely capture novooleksandrivka, the capture of novooleksandrivka was reported yesterday by the deep state, then there were certain conditional refutations from the insurance committee, which says that the western part of novooleksandrivka is under under the control of the armed forces of ukraine, but in any case, we must record that the enemy is expanding this bridgehead around ochereteny, and there are several directions of movement, one just from novooleksandrivka to vozdvyshenka, this is... the outermost settlement in front of this highway pokrovsk and chasiv , if we take it

the widest, and actually this to this track within 9 km, but this track is already in front of fire control, it is actually a rolling section that provides our troop groups that are located there, in particular there and times and.. further to the west. in any in this case, we understand that the enemy will try to advance to this area. tighter fire control will complicate our logistics. our leadership of the armed forces understands all these risks, but now the main risks are, in general, to stop the enemy's advance along the perimeter from the retching itself. this dynamic is known, it is known that the enemy is transferring forces and resources there, it is also known that... that this flank around the blackened, it is, relatively speaking, the northern flank of our grouping of troops,

which is holding the defense. starting there from from ocheretiny to karlivka to the south, i.e. this is the entire line of defense that was formed after the departure of our troops from avdiyivka, this direction is important, the enemy, in addition, wants to press our troops so that we move beyond the line of the vovchi river, that is, to form a new line of defense, in any in any case, this direction will continue to remain extremely stable, there is fire control over the route to pokrovsk, but in... in this case, i hope that the general staff will find the means and forces to make the enemy's further advance impossible. well, if the promotion does happen, what are the remaining options? in fact , there will be options for our defense, there will be a certain, let's say, regrouping of our forces, the formation of a new line of defense and then the holding of areas that begin there and times and pokrovsky and so on, because relatively speaking, this is a rather

difficult path for the enemy. what will happen to vasvyshenka, because relatively speaking, this area is a height, there are prerequisites for providing a line of defense there and making it impossible for the enemy to advance to the track. there are literally a couple of minutes left, i read also at the weekend in one of the guardians there is a large article about the fact that f16 even in large numbers, if provided to ukraine, can be very little effective for the simple reason that... f-16 in order to be as effective as possible to use high-range missiles, radios, judges, they need to climb to a height, in this case the missiles work much more efficiently, but now it was written that almost half of the territory of ukraine is controlled by russian air defense near the front, and accordingly, the f-16s will actually be cling to the ground and perform the

same role as the su-20. four, for example, i.e. simply to be front-line bombers at the front, well, this is the opinion expressed, there are two constituent questions, first of all, it is really necessary to seek to expand the radius of destruction of russian objects by atakams with a range of up to 300 km, because the left part of the litovych in the area of ​​200 km, this is one component of the question, the second is the development of an effective strategy, because the combination of the f-16 at even low altitudes with the possibility of da... these swedish aircraft saab 390, they should make such a versatile pair, when saab can see enemy targets at a distance of 500 km, including russian fighters, and f-16s can use such tactics of air ambush, i think, ambush, i think it is in principle, the question of justifying effective tactics, we really know that

the enemy... has an advantage in aviation and long-range missiles, and now the question is how to find the optimal tactics of our countermeasures, i think that it will be found, the aviation commander said, that we first have learn to crawl, walk, and then run, when we talk about the use of f-16, so this process, i think, will lead to such an effective result, not immediately, but gradually, well, thank you very much for these explanations, serhiy sgurets, military ... the expert was with us , the director of defense express, we talked about the situation, in particular at the front, whether we have backup plans in case the russians manage to advance further in the direction of pokrovsk, and we will remind you that there is a whole agglomeration there kramatorsk, slavic, well, everything should be fine. dear friends, i i would like to remind you that we work until 12:00, then the tv channel will broadcast the program of our colleagues

from radio svoboda, svoboda ranok, and... also remind you that at 9:00 a.m. across the country we will observe a minute of silence for those whose lives were cut short russian aggression, too, let's remember them. let's observe a moment of silence in memory of the ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.