when russia launched an attack on the turkish direction of the ukrainian military... general and commander of the united forces of the ukrainian armed forces yuriy sodol was seen behind charka in odesa, where, among other things, he awarded the mayor of the city gennady trukhanov. the servicemen are outraged, they blame sodol for the death of a large number of ukrainian soldiers, the general staff, meanwhile, as well as the ministry of defense, are silent. we will tell and talk about all the details today in svoboda live. my name is vlasta lazur. the local authorities

of the city of toretsk, in donetsk region, are calling local residents to leave. in recent days, russian attacks on turkey have intensified. russian troops managed to advance in the direction from the maiorsk checkpoint to the village of north. this is already the vicinity of turetsky, the deep state autumn project reported on june 19. in addition, according to analysts, russian troops captured the village of shumy, you can see on the map where it is located. the ukrainian general staff comments with restraint on the information about... the capture of settlements near turetsk, they say that there are ongoing battles, but they do not confirm the change of the front line. at least publicly: the front line near turetsk and the neighboring village of new york remained almost the only one, which since 2014-15 was unchanged, after russia captured avdiivka, toretsk remained the largest city near the front line until a full-scale invasion about 35 thousand people lived there. see what's happening now.

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you are here on the move, my wife and i got into the car , a rocket hit a projectile, the guy helped us very well, they drove the car, they threw the car, there are no tags , here i have all my legs intact and normal , scratches at once guys, we have a lying mother , evacuation is what it is, we live here, well everything here is already crowded. there is nothing needed here, and just on the move, well, this is probably an otokulok, yes, thank you very much, all the best, so turetsk, independent analysts say that russia has captured the villages next to turetsk and is moving towards the city, the general staff is occupying does not recognize, does not confirm, the turkish authorities urge residents to leave urgently, what is happening there, after the occupation of avdiyivka, military analysts repeatedly. it was assumed that toretsk

would be the main target of the russian so-called big offensive in the summer of 24. can it be stated that this offensive has already begun? we will talk about this later. volodymyr nazarenko, chief of intelligence of the artillery of the fourth artillery brigade rubizh. congratulations. good afternoon, studio, good afternoon viewers. thanks for the opportunity to join to your broadcast. thank you for joining. tell me, what at the moment, according to your information, from what you see is happening in the... direction or near turetsky, can it be stated that this is already an offensive? i would once again like to call for trust in the general staff's report first of all, because we clearly understand that the information component is an important component of the war, and we clearly understand that the occupier can one way or another focus on messages, including mass media, on internet sources, telegram channels, etc., which are published in mass media. of ukraine and that is why it is important

to understand again and again that the enemy analyzes information as much as possible, collects information as much as possible in order to, but independent ukrainian analysts, they are already. they state and show the map that, for example, the noises have been captured, the general staff does not comment on this at all, which information is to be trusted, it is silence, it does not exist, we clearly understand, and i would like to give an example, including in the 22nd year, when we and our comrades of the fourth brigade of the rubizh brigade performed tasks, including in severodonetsk, in rubizhny, in other hot areas, and we repeatedly faced the fact that the enemy's zero line, including there... are located under his units, we clearly understand that the enemy has a little weaker with communication, especially this was again in 22 year by means of communication, and the enemy was oriented quite often then, including by messages received by the mass media in order to understand

where, including, their units are located, how the battle line actually goes, line of demarcation, that's why i'm saying again, and... in order for the defense forces to be able to perform their work as much as possible and not to give the enemy - unnecessary messages, it is worth first of all to trust and understand what can be made public, really we believe in my, actually our brigade, i can confidently speak about the line of battle in the area of ​​responsibility of our brigade, but what i know from the situation in general in the bakhmut direction. to the west of mayorsk, that is, on the turkish part of the front, then believe me, our fellow brigades of the armed forces of ukraine are doing their best, and i believe that in a dynamic, i apologize , volodymyr, but do you know that, for example,

the noises of the captured settlement and other settlements near turetsk, you can confirm or deny this, or you just don't want to comment on it, again i say dostomenno can comment. the area where our brigade, the fourth brigade of our national guard, rubizh, is performing tasks, it can be said north of bakhmut, for security reasons, i cannot report the exact section, but again what is happening in the turkish direction, understanding this theater of operations, understanding that this line of defense and we have known this section since august 22nd, it is quite difficult there. terrain, and we understand that the enemy has a certain advantage, because he is located, his main reserves, his main, supply opportunities and to pull up reinforcements from the temporarily occupied neck, in which they

have actually been based for quite a long time since 2014, and in this there is the advantage of the opponent, but the defense forces, zagalomdy to allow. then clarification, i understood your position, you generally talk about the bakhmut direction, then say, look, roman kostenko, for example, and maryana bezugla are two different deputies from different political forces, but both of them are members of the defense-intelligence committee, they confirmed that certain positions in the turkish direction were lost, precisely those positions that the ukrainian army had held there since the 14th and 15th years, such a question that, in principle, gives russia a military point of view. if this happens? turetsk is a city located in the east, southeast of kostyantynivka, realizing that the enemy somehow managed to advance to the west of avdiyivka in the spring, at the beginning of spring, in the middle

of spring, realizing that now the enemy is trying to advance actively, very heavy fighting continues to the west. from bakhmut, that is, to the east of the time ravine, around the time ravine, and the fact that rather heavy fighting is going on now west of ivanovsky in the klishchevka area, including, we understand, and in general, the tactics used by enemy units is pressure along the entire line, field along the entire front line, along the entire demarcation line, in order to try to advance as much as possible in one city, then in another, be it in small groups. whether several people were under cover there at night, in the evening or early in the morning, whether it was assault operations using armored vehicles, by the way, on a certain part of the front, the enemy tried to carry out a raid in a certain way, small raid operations on some buggies,

atvs, motorcycles, you are now you you tell me now the methods, what they are, how they advance, what they use, strategically, if... fascinates toretsk, what is it means? strategically, we have to understand that these are cities that have a population, if we are talking about bahmud and... about avdiivka and about chasivyar and about toretsk, each with a population of several tens of thousands, this is the territory of ukraine that we definitely have to protect, but it is definitely no one doubts this, of course, but from a military point of view, from a military point of view, the enemy will not succeed, i believe that it will not be possible to make raid breakthroughs for several tens of kilometers, the defense forces are doing everything possible to defend every meter. volodymyr, with all due respect, we are not talking about faith now, i just want to understand for the sake of understanding, to give understanding to our audience,

people who may be in turkey now, or live in that direction, if russia captures turkey, what does it mean? in a strategic sense, it's not, first of all, i hope that the enemy will not succeed in doing this, but in a strategic sense, i don't think that it will have huge... consequences, we understand that a strategic victory and significant strategic successes after the capture of avdiivka, the enemy did not receive. turkish is still there, well, that a ukrainian city, of course, ukrainian citizens live in it, but i hope that the enemy will not bring strategic success, in fact, the capture of turkey, the pokrovsk, kostiantynivka highway is under threat, so... at the time of the ravine, such and such a highway is important, but i can say with confidence that

there are other ways, there are other roads that in one way or another provide logistics for the defense forces, so strategically there will not be any huge tragedies, but i would first of all like to draw attention to what i believe in defense forces and about the fact that the enemy will not be able to capture, i understood, thank you, i understood your answer, then one more question, it is partly related only to the turkish one, but nevertheless, look, there was a rather scandalous statement yesterday, again , i apologize to maryana bezuglai, but not only, and then the military also gave their comments and assessments, it is said that when the russian troops stormed the turkish direction, general yuriy sodol, who is the head of the entire eastern front and the commander of the united forces of the armed forces, well, he was supposedly in odessa, someone says, there for a drink he was seen and awarded, including the mayor of trukhanov. just when the russian troops were breaking through to turetsk, we are not talking about his activities in odessa now,

we will talk about it later, i want to ask you this: what reputation does general yuriy sodol have among the military? i cannot comment unequivocally, i am not personally familiar with him, after all, we are in the structure of the national guard, we perform tasks in those areas of the front where we have a task in order to maintain the defense, and as for of the mentioned publications, it is obvious that the answers to these questions should still be given by the larger military and political leadership of the country, and one way or another quite serious facts, quite serious accusations, accusations, yes, yes, yes, and how true they are, i i cannot comment, because it is not within my authority and no, i was not a witness, no, no, maybe, can neither confirm

the authenticity nor refute these accusations, which were voiced by one of the people's deputies in the mass media, social networks, etc. , therefore in the first place che, but you military people, as military people, you follow this story, you are interested in how it develops, how it will end, whether you are discussing it now among yourselves, it is extremely important for the military to clearly monitor the mass media. are quite sensitive to all the issues that arise, therefore it is extremely important that we must clearly understand that the military is currently performing tasks in superhuman conditions, my brothers, who in these hours, in these days, at ground zero, under intense shelling, with hold the defense with frantic contact, have clearly to feel justice, that's why it's important, thank you, yury nazarenko, head of reconnaissance of the artillery of the fourth rubizh brigade, captain. of the national guard of ukraine ended, so to speak, his inclusion with the fact that the military

should feel justice. thank you very much. well, now about general yury sodol, his personality makes sense, so to speak, to be interested in or shed light on the background of the russian army's offensive in the turkish direction. so, people's deputy maryana bezugla is still here, even if someone did not treat her, but she, i remind you, remains a patroness chairman of the defense committee. council, so she stated that allegedly general yurii sodol, while the russian troops were breaking through to turetsk, was in odessa, where, among other things , he awarded the mayor of the city gennady trukhanov. the mayor of odesa received a letter from sodovol. badge for service from the extraction. the award ceremony, as reported on the official website of the odesa city council, took place on saturday, june 22. later, a photo appeared on the network, in which, as it is claimed, the commander of the united forces of the armed forces of ukraine is resting in the odesa restaurant ablak. on in the photos, which were made public again by bezula, sodol is dressed in a t-shirt with bunnies, standing with a glass in his hand.

listen. oleg was identified next to sodol while drunk. tratievskyi, a police officer who headed the primorskyi rw of the armed forces of ukraine, the state security service of ukraine in the odesa region in 2014, when the tragedy occurred on may 2 in the building of trade unions, call sign batya. sodol, the leader of the entire eastern front, the commander of the combined forces of the ukrainian armed forces, was drinking in odessa and rewarding mayor trukhanov when the russians broke through to toretsk. at sodol, we missed the invasion to kharkiv oblast, broke through to pokrovsk and lost avdiivka. so, bezugla claims that general sodol was resting in odesa when the russian troops broke through the front near turetsky, moreover, she later accused sodol of the death of a large number of ukrainian soldiers. the military leadership did not comment on this information, as well as the fact that the mayor of odessa received an award from the hands of general sodol, radio svoboda asked for a comment from the ground forces and just now, or

if we receive this comment, we will definitely make it public, well on background news about odesa weekend sodolya, chief of staff... at the azov brigade of the national guard bohdan krotevich wrote a statement to the state bureau of investigation against the general who, according to krotevich, killed more ukrainian soldiers than any russian general. the sbi has now confirmed that such a statement has indeed been received. the dbr did not name the general, and in his statement, krotevych also did not mention any names, but rfe/rl's interlocutors in the defense committee of the verkhovna rada reported that it was about yuriy sodol. and sometimes it seems to me that the world sends us deserters to rally us, and all the military now understand what kind of person i 'm talking about, because 99% of the military hate him for what he does. this person initiates investigations against commanders who advance and do not lose ground, but he does not initiate official investigations against himself. it got me, the rubicon has been crossed.

oleksandr fedienko, people's deputy, servant of the people faction and representative joined our broadcast. to the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, i congratulate you, good afternoon, i congratulate you too. oleksandr, what about the story with yuri sodol and these accusations, accusations against him, of course, a legal assessment has not yet been made, but before that, whether this issue will be considered by the committee, or whether such an event is possibly already planned, the question for today will be about the specified military leader in the committee. was considered, and what do you think, should it be considered? well, look, the committee, of course, is considering many issues, some of them bear signs of limited access to information, of course, if there will be an official an appeal to the committee, and even more so a member of our committee has public accusations, she can, by the way, initiate consideration of this issue not only on facebook, but still

in the committee, especially since as she positions herself, she is the deputy chairman to the committee, you are talking about... maryana bezuglu, and by the way, she did not initiate this issue for consideration in the committee, did she limit herself to facebook or something? once again, as of today , the national security and intelligence committee has not received any proposals on this issue. and you, as a representative, by the way the national security and intelligence committee, would it be interesting to understand this? in general, i am interested in understanding any issues related to our military, especially since i returned from the front only last night. and i have many questions for the top military leadership regarding the situation that happened at the front, by the way, i want to pay attention to what seems to me to be wrong, i will not say about it, it seems to me that sometimes, unfortunately, some of the military leadership is trying to keep our supreme leader, you know, in such a warm bath that

almost everything seems to be fine, but i can say that everything is not so fine, at least from those, in those... brigades where we were talking with someone from the military, i'm not talking only about the composition , there is the level of a battalion company leader, i say, the composition of brigade leaders is high enough, that is, the generals keep volodymyr zelenskyi in a warm bath, you claim, they are not arranging something for him or something, i did not understand, i must say, i do not know, i do not communicate with the supreme command, which i do not know, but in my opinion, it still seems to me that what is happening now at the front and what is happening has already become public. plane, and we see that something came out into the public plane, and the same commander who belongs to azov already said about it, i think that it was already necessary to convene the appropriate meetings and... as in the committee, by the way, and you could have initiated such a meeting, could you not, in order to initiate it, i had to go and analyze it, i want to emphasize once again, i only came back at night and now

we are, so to speak, analyzing this and that the information we gathered in order to move on, huh, but you say that you were at the front and communicated with the military, with the brigades, and what reputation does yuriy sodol, the general, have there among them? i think this is an incorrect question, so i won't answer it, this is a question for those who are engaged in war, not for politicians, and why is this an incorrect question, if we are talking about tens of thousands of ukrainians who are currently in the army, they, your colleague says that he was almost involved in the murder of a large number of soldiers, that he allegedly gave some incompetent orders, why this is an incorrect question, this is an extremely socially important topic, i think it is necessary to ask my colleague about this issue, since she says about it, i have such information. then can you explain, tell what the military is saying at the front about sodol, do they support what is being said about him now? i want to tell you once again that we

discussed this issue with the military, but i do not want to bring this issue into the public sphere, at least now, because this issue has not yet been discussed at the committee, and even more so i i believe that some issues can harm and demoralize our armed forces of ukraine and harm our defense capability. but if indeed yuriy sodol, let's say, makes some decisions there that the military is not happy about, could this not also demoralize the military and harm it, i don't know which military, what doesn't like it, is accordingly the higher military leadership that manages not at the level of the company division, but at the entire front, maybe some questions my colleagues do not know and do not understand, do you understand? so want it again the issue should be gathered and discussed at a closed meeting, huh, and what do you think, have you seen these photos, which were also published by your colleague, a colleague on the committee,

they probably interested you too, here in odessa yuriy sodol is relaxing somewhere in a restaurant with a glass , and at that time, just in these days, an offensive was taking place in turkey, this is how it should be understood, how it should be regarded, it is normal in general, i think that now any rest, and politicians, by the way, and the higher military leadership , this is not normal, especially since , as you said, there is indeed a war going on there are a lot of problems in the war, so i personally do not welcome such things, so what conclusions should be drawn from your point of view, the conclusions should be made by the direct managers of those who directly appointed the relevant serviceman to this position, and they should make appropriate conclusions, draw appropriate conclusions, if it will be... an official investigation is needed, well, definitely not politicians, politicians will deal with this purely in the committee already with other issues and in a closed format. yes, who should draw conclusions,

the president or commander-in-chief oleksandr syrian? and who is the boss of this general? i think the commander-in-chief, the commander-in-chief, should say that. moreover, i can say that in my opinion, nothing has changed from the point of view of information. communication with society, you see, there is always a loss, when such informational events take place in general social networks, their press services should have reacted somehow and made some kind of information to the public. when you mean that when information appeared about sodul, about his odesa vacations, a statement from krotevych, there should have been some kind of reaction, i don't know that these are vacations, i don't know when the photograph was taken.' you see we can trust and we can not trust we are lay people it's everyone's right i don't know again i'm not an investigator maybe this photo was taken there 5 years ago maybe it was taken yesterday

maybe it was taken a year ago , we do not know this, you understand, if we are a college girl has any information, i am sure that as a deputy of ukraine, a people's deputy of ukraine, as members of the committee, she must then make a corresponding written statement to the relevant structures, to the same dbr, in order for them to conduct accordingly. i understand you, thank you very much, oleksandr fedienko, people's deputy of ukraine, servant of the people and representative of the defense committee of the verkhovna rada, well , actually, what do odessa itself think about this whole story and about the awarding of the mayor of odessa, gennadiy trukhanov, we will now ask, my a colleague joins the air, valery bolgan, editor-in-chief of intent, valery, somehow we started meeting with you often, in odesa, if not for the scandals between the tcc and civilians, trukhanov is rewarded, do you understand? what do you think trukhanov was awarded for? greetings, colleagues, i would like to hear about odesa from other sources, through other news, but we have what we have, as the classic said, ah na

na... in fact, the situation with the awarding of trukhanov was absolutely strange to me, i did not understand even in general, why exactly the mayor was awarded with such an award, although when my colleagues and i began to check this information, it turned out that this was not the first awarding the city mayor, for example, there was already such a thing in the white church, there the head of the district military administration was awarded in kremenchuk, etc., although among the awarded are also military personnel, and volunteers and... how exactly does he award, because it is actually a personal award from the head of the united forces, how exactly it is determined who should be awarded is closed information so far, despite the fact that the award was introduced back in the 20th year, who decides this, it is strange to me, it was also strange because i talked to some of deputies who were awarded at this,

they were also surprised, they were invited without actually explaining what they were inviting to, and then they went, well, accordingly, when they saw that general sodul came and awarded trukhanov, if these are awards for the city, it is one thing question, but we don't, we don't see it, we see a personal award, as written by trukhanov gennadiy leonidovych, everything is not written there to the mayor of odesa, there to the representative of the city of odesa, but this is a personal award, and... odesa is not understand, or did i understand correctly? i will say more, we still have many questions about how correctly and correctly the finances are used, even those that are allocated from the city budget for the armed forces of ukraine, because the city government reports that more than a billion has already been allocated in total for these two years, but in fact, due to the constant closure of information, the regime of secrecy

, etc., it is actually impossible to verify this information at the moment even for professional investigative journalists there, because of course there are security issues, but how for me, the amount of hidden information here exceeds the security issue, and this information is definitely of public interest, so it should be open. valery, the question is, did you manage to find out when and under what circumstances these photos were taken in a restaurant with glasses in... yuriy sodol in this t-shirt with bunnies, because, for example, maryana bezugla talks about the fact that this was done on the day and time when the attack on turkey was developing, well, that is , the last days, look, yes, so we tried to make contact, the restaurant officially does not enter into any communications on this matter, this, if such a person existed, then this is his personal matter, but we talked to

one of the... employees of the business center where this restaurant is located, and apparently he saw such a person, he was just on shift, that is, there you can actually even calculate that it was correspondingly or four days ago, well , that is, there you can calculate from his shifts, when exactly it was, i’m not ready right now, i don’t have these dates, but something like this he saw the person, but he is on another floor. therefore this well, this kind of confirmation, i’ll be honest, plus it’s actually a man with a short haircut, so what, well, these are very weak signs, and the photo is of such quality that, well, i’m not ready, i’ll add it then, valeria, i’ll add it then, i’ll add that i said about it roman kostenko on another of my broadcasts, he said that i have information that he allegedly took a leave, well, that is, this yuriy

sodol on the leave of the commander-in-chief and went to the graduation of his son, who received the first officer rank, a lieutenant in the academy at the odessa academy ground troops, perhaps it's the graduation season at the army academy, well, the military academy, it's called now, in fact , this holiday season is already over, it's possible, but again, of course, the information about the specific names of the graduates is from. .. closed, and i didn’t realize that this was information, then, valery, i have one last question, and this other man, who is also standing next to him with a sodol, bluntly claims that he has the nickname father, i don’t know, yes is it not so, is it not so, what is known about him, who, who is it such a person, we don't know what kind of person this is, you don't know, maybe not, well, it's not some public person from odessa, maybe it's someone, i mean from criminal...