arnavskyi was at least four hours away, and he is also a hero of ukraine. why? and who submits to the heroes of ukraine? commander-in-chief of the armed forces. solidarity . in your opinion, what responsibility should sodol bear, what should it look like? from what you wrote on social networks, what should be the responsibility, what should it be? isn't it enough that he was fired? and you know this, dismissal, it’s like, they then have a rule, well, in our armed forces, if a general, then... well, in general, in relation to officers for an equivalent or higher position, that is, no general is punished if he is simply dismissed and hidden somewhere, as i wrote there, in the academy for training or some scientific research institution, or not in some operational command, what is it in general, in our country such a structure is very specific, this is a separate conversation , then this is not a punishment, he should sit, but also for him... but now, you already

know that when the military does this, it is such a low authority of the leader that it is actually a cry of despair, and what krutevich submitted in dbr, fact-finding, here is only a question of how qualitatively the sbi will work, and sodol is not some separate odious type, it is simply a consequence of what a fundamental gap we have between the higher headquarters and'. valuable combat brigades that have been formed since the 14th year, but the maximum intensive involvement of those mobilized in the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and now we already have such critical points of no return, or the higher military headquarters will radically change, or we're just headed for a loss. ms. maryana, regarding the dismissal of sodol, how did president zelenskyi make this decision, do you know if it happened after you started to publicly...

criticize, when the military applied to the sbi, how was this decision made, or maybe, i don’t know, sirskyi decided to turn to zelenskyi with a request to release sodol, how did it happen and what was the impact to zelensky's decision? this is a complex situation, well , you were approached by the president's office to provide the data you have about the events at the front so that they could make a decision there? look, i'm not commenting on the specifics of my work with the president's office, because i work as an office... the president, as well as with the parliament, the cabinet, the ministry of defense, in particular, every day, and to say whether they were contacted or not , this is a daily job, the question is that, how, what i can say for sure that syrskyi did not want to fire sodol , and it was, it was a problem, neither the minister of defense nor syrskyi did not submit this issue to the president for months, not only that, syrskyi had already submitted it. that candidacy, as the one for which he

vouched, as the best leader, possibly the best leader of the eastern front, despite the fact that sodol had everything he did at the time of zaluzhnoye, mariupol, krynka, this is all that i reminded in the southern history, and accordingly, then he protected him as much as possible in this, that is, what we have, we have that already when the peak occurred, and... information signals from all sides of different nature, different level of argumentation, then the president made a decision, well, to actually intervene and do what is within his powers, that is to remove sodol from the command of the united forces, then he has to make up for us not too much time , there are two more important questions, by the way, you mentioned the head of masyrskyi, we are ready to give him the floor also on our broadcast, we mentioned him often today, so the press service of the head of the committee can count on it. if this is an opportunity

, a short question: do you have any complaints against the newly appointed commander of the united forces andrii hnatov, what do you think about him in general? well, he is just from such a new generation, he got his title after a full-scale invasion, and i remember his actions quite positively, well, what are they purely my assessment, this is... an assessment from different levels from the military in the 22nd year in the south he has a high authority, of course, as they say, anyone can screw up or not scale to such, given the enormous responsibility that he will now receive , but nevertheless it can be said that this is a commander, well, a military leader of a new generation, of whom we have very few at this level, well, what can i remember, there is drapatoy, hnatov, dropatiy, by the way, they acted together precisely in the southern

direction during the kherson operation, which, as i will remind you, it was successful for us, it is the first southern counteroffensive. and one more question, i can’t ask about it... before the broadcast it became known that the sbi did announce a suspicion against your colleague in the parliament mykola tyshchenko, it is about the events in dnipro, how will the faction from which, as you understand, act now have not yet come out and have they already discussed this issue, perhaps in faction chats, look, vetyshchenko was kicked out of the faction a long time ago, and i actively participated in it, he has nothing to do with us, he is such a free element in the parliament, and i am very glad this news, and i am sure that the majority... menturada, because, as i mentioned, when kolya comes to the parliament, whoever did not have time to hide from him, he talks to, so there are two points here, but he is a majoritarian, it is not just to deprive him of his mandate, that's right, that's the case, when he was kicked out of the faction, he does not lose his mandate, he did not

lose his mandate, and therefore, of course , an ideal situation is needed here, if he were to sit in prison and lose his mandate, however, the constitution limits. opportunities that the deputy can lose mandate, and this is de facto, well, of our own accord, we cannot change the constitution now, that is why there are difficulties, nevertheless, maybe he will still decide to draw up a mandate, i take this into account, of course, how it will develop, in particular the criminal proceedings ms. maryana, i thank you for joining, maryana bezugla, people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, guest of our broadcast. traditionally about the most important things on our air, about those topics that concern you, about those topics that concern ukrainian society, and here in the comments you write a lot about everything that is happening, the chat can be said to be burning with comments, this is important, because in this way we understand what

topics are important to you, well, now we are already in touch mr. ihor romanenko, this is a military expert and retired lieutenant general, mr. ihor, i congratulate you, i welcome you too, tell me, please, how do you feel about the replacement of the commander of the united forces? it is ambiguous, because i, when it was still changing, and the person with whom you communicated, let's say, the commander-in-chief of the syrian general said that a simple replacement, it has little to give and quickly expect positive results, in my opinion, then and now, unfortunately, this is confirmed. not necessary, because the situation at the front has not improved, but why? and because , despite the fact that the essence of the highest echelon of the military was replaced, the question

is not only that professionally, if, syrsky was better than luzhny or vice versa, but the question is that in order to change the situation, the state must provide ... opportunities for the military leadership to properly implement their professional skills, and this has been done so far it was not, we have only made progress, we are only at the beginning, that means we are providing capabilities, increasing our armament of equipment with great delay, we are doing the issue related to mobilization, i.e. tin, curd soda. anyone, no, he is not a wizard, especially in such difficult conditions, who solves issues at the front with a stick, but he is a general who, with what the state has provided him with

the appropriate resource, must first stabilize the situation at the front, and then lead to further de-occupation days there, for which we... we, therefore, therefore, we see what is happening, a separate question on the role and importance of the general of the upper echelon, sodel holds, it is such a very difficult position, he had different characteristics regarding how he performed his tasks, negative and positive, given that, from the point of view of general syrsky, as chief commissar, he was appointed for this position, probably. zapezative, but war is a difficult matter, and not only purely military circumstances play a role here, which the chief of staff of the brigade, the captain insisted and proved, but one way

or another, as it is not defined by legislation, it also applies to political issues, it concerns the ethics of behavior, and from a soldier. from the lower rank to the soldier of the higher rank, which is a general, a general since roman times, is a military man who commands thousands of soldiers and is therefore responsible. very high, and in connection with this, one must behave very carefully in communication with political leaders about the situation and so on, apparently general sodul failed to pass the exam for such approaches, and therefore we have the consequences, when the supreme commander-in-chief, the president, once again communicated with the military and made a decision regarding this general, and well... the dbr probably continues the investigation, and here the moment related to

the fact that society wants to see the truth is fundamentally important, and this is essential in relation to who behaved and how it is happening, because, well , i want to say separately that the conquest political authority to rub salt in the wound, i.e. well, maryana bezugula was right when the general was removed for... alkaline, then she was right, if i was in quotation marks, when general sodal was removed, then there is a lot that does , to film general syrsky, this that such a line of behavior, when we need strong discipline in the armed forces, this is a contribution, unfortunately, it is not on the air, i will not be able to answer you, there will be no balance, but, she was on the air, she expressed her point of view, so i. .. on the air, i express my point of view, because she didn’t just start it on the spur of the moment,

the beginning was a long time ago, and unfortunately, she does not change the line of behavior, and this line of behavior destabilizes, i know what i am talking about, i am in the field security for more than half a century, and this definitely does not contribute to the strengthening of discipline and stabilization at the front, because where was it here or there, i express my point of view, and this is fundamental for me, mr. igor... an important point is what you are touching on, because maryana bezugla, like others, for example , representatives of the parliamentary committee, they are primarily politicians, these are people who came to power as politicians, there are military personnel who, for example, also expressed and appealed to the sbi, regarding the actions of sodol, how about you, please explain from a military point of view how it should look when, for example a military lower rank, i.e. a person who occupies there a lower rank than a general, there are questions about events at the front, and for example, this military unit believes that something is going wrong at the front. here are the politicians, they write on facebook, they publicly state about it there, how should a military man act, or should he exclusively

perform the tasks given to him by the general, here is how it looks from a military point of view, one stroke, i note that in our security committee does not have a single representative from the armed forces of ukraine, this is generally normal, during the war there are representatives there there is no representative from others, namely from the armed forces of ukraine. well, they invite representatives of the general staff, they communicate with them, that is, they have constant communication, at the level of experts there to communicate, or to have the right to make legislative decisions, that is why our parliament resolved the issue of mobilization for four months, without saying that it was in the first year of the war it was necessary to decide, that is why it has such consequences at the level of accounting, and in principle this law, they trampled, they raised the issue of demobilization, it is necessary to come up with it. this time when it is very difficult, the issue of demobilization and

rotation can be carried out when we prepare a reserve, which currently does not exist, and they are four months of effort if almost nowhere, and now in relation to that, this is a very fundamental issue, yes , we have fabulous traditions, you know, in a year hitman could be filmed, it was staged, it was assembled and filmed, it was a long time ago, there are some roots, the genes still remain, but under what conditions should it be done according to the law, we must give credit to this captain, the chief of staff, that he tried and did it exactly illegally, this is important, that is, he tried to team to decide, although it is clear where sodal is, where is the chief of staff of the brigade, although these are middle ranks, the leader refers to the leadership of the brigade, but the difference is a very large distance, and therefore there are many degrees in the chain from this captain to... a lot, and these chiefs they did not decide how,

well, to react to this situation, then he left, again according to the law, wrote, openly wrote to the sbi, did not announce his name and so on, that is, he behaved, well, let's say, here in the framework of legality, it is very important, it is fundamental, and it distinguishes, to things, to the position held by maryana, even a deputy. and if the chief of staff of the brigade (officer) in my opinion, he has more responsibility in this than a parliamentarian of this level, here, but from another point of view. side, of course we need the truth, but the truth that would not destabilize the situation in the behavior of any military person, thank you for tuning in and for your analysis, ihor romanenko, military expert, retired lieutenant general, guest of our broadcast. this is the freedom of mornings project. thank you for being with us, my name is oleg

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remove the protective film and the mattress takes its shape. just call right now. kravchuk, who is joining us, people's deputy of ukraine, mrs. yevgenia, is already with us, the people say. are you in brussels right now, no, i'm in strasbourg, yes, yes, for a second, because we have problems with the sound, we can't hear you, you can hear us, great, now we can hear you, i still couldn't read your lips , are you in brussels, no i am in strasbourg because

the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe always meets in strasbourg, it is the headquarters of the council. europe, huh, andriy just asked about brussels, because the polish media are reporting on the visits of volodymyr zelenskyi to brussels for the eu summit, have you found anything about it, and finally, what news from paris? well, this week there will be a lot of different events that are somehow related to european integration, and of course, the summer session of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe is taking place at the same time. today in luxembourg is the first intergovernmental conference, which actually kicks off the negotiations. process and this is a really historic day, there will also be a meeting of the leaders of the countries in brussels on the 27th-28th of the european union, and there will also be some good news and such new pages of relations between ukraine and the european union. ugh, okay.

president zelenskyi said today, yesterday, by the way, that we have a historic moment, negotiations will begin. about ukraine's access to the european union, how close are we really to this significant event, do we really need to do a lot of reforms right now, as mr. sikorskyi said, for example, in berlin, well, to do reforms and change legislation in accordance with the european see you next time, well at least for a few years, of course, we set ourselves some deadlines, but the european union itself is preparing to accept new member states, as they say, by the end of this decade, that is, by 2030. of course , it would be ideal for us to have the next elections to the european parliament already, candidates from ukraine have already participated in the elections and we have already entered the european parliament, but in fact now,

in a few hours today, it will be the official start of negotiations, and these negotiations will be opened sections, which are divided into six clusters, that is, they should open and then... close, and when we close all 35 clusters, then in fact the next step is the ratification of ukraine's accession to the european union. well, we talked a little about the pleasant, let's now talk a little about the sad, the sad, but we want to be a state governed by the rule of law, and here life itself gives us examples of what we still need to change in this country so that we do not have this status would raise no questions. 52 minutes ago page. photos of mykola tyshchenko, a people's elected representative, appeared on facebook. your colleague in the parliament, by faction,

was informed of the suspicion based on the fact of the events that happened in the dnipro last week. and what do they say, what do they say to the faction about this, about this incident, have you already bothered to talk to mr. mykola tyschenko, what is he like, he is not a member of our faction, i do not communicate with him at all, that's why i don't... well i cannot say any other details, he is not a member of our faction, i don’t know anymore, in my opinion, for one and a half years, if not less, and it is not the party, and it has nothing to do with it, but of course, we were outraged and followed this course, i signed in some appeals, which, in my opinion, to the minister of internal affairs and colleagues from the faction initiated this, so i can only welcome the work of the sbi, which are doing what they have. do, ms. yevgenia, in your opinion, should there be, i don’t know, maybe some rules of conduct for people’s elected representatives, i don’t know, and within

the walls of the parliament, the code of people’s deputy, ugh, and there is even a draft law that is registered, and not i don't know if it is in this convocation that we will get to the vote, because there was even an idea to make a separate committee there, who will analyze these issues, although we have regulations, that is why this is such a debatable concept, in the case of mykola tyschenko, it is a criminal article, but it is obvious that there will and should be political responsibility in various such cases, and i think that he passed by the majority. the voters there, in the sviatoshyn district, are probably just as outraged, and they will definitely never vote for him , ugh, but... there was an investigation at the public hearing, which concerns another candidate, so far in the people's deputies from the servants of the people of the 153rd list of the servants of the people, which

theoretically, it can enter the parliament in the near future, since now the 147th has entered, as far as i know, and many of your colleagues from the faction publicly express their desire to withdraw from the composition to form a mandate, and this is about such a roman kravets, from... from chernihiv, that a 29-year-old young man, who is said to be the owner of the telegram channel joker, and this telegram channel itself is seen in the fact that it can make attacks on some, or on some specific people, or on some companies, can take for it's money, they say that if you give money, you don't we will attack, public journalists are connected. this channel with president zelenskyi's office and personally with mr. yermak, what do you think about it, are you familiar with this candidate for people's deputies from your

party, you know, i don't think anything about it, because i'm in strasbourg right now and we have a session dude, i have my resolution on the vote tomorrow, i'm thinking about it, about the destruction of cultural identity, and to be honest, when your colleague agreed, yes, about this interview, we were supposed to talk about pari, but for now we're talking about something else just not about... this topic i didn't watch the investigation, seriously, we have a very busy session, today an exhibition opens, tomorrow a website about captured journalists, and i think that maybe you will also be interested in this, because we have 30 ukrainian journalists in russian captivity, and we want to attract this attention and make a separate resolution in the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, there is a ukrainian day on wednesday with three resolutions on sanctions for the destruction of culture, cultural identity as part of the genocidal policy of the russians. federation, so i can tell a lot about it, no i didn't watch any investigations, i heard something was just going around in social networks, i don't read anonymous telegram channels, which is what i wish you too. and

i definitely do not believe that volodymyr zelenskyi or yermak is somehow connected there with the administration of some anonymous telegram channels. in general , when we adopted the law on media, we gave the opportunity even to telegram channels to register as media, but for this they have to open up and this seems to me to be the only way, well, if we choose the way that telegram works, then the only normal way is for it telegram channels were clear, but you probably have them. and it is clear that it refers to the espresso media, someone runs his personal telegram channels, then this is a kind of normal situation, ms. evgenia, we do not read telegram channels, we advise our viewers not to read anonymous telegram channels, because it is not clear, who is behind them, but for example, there is trukha's anonymous telegram channel, and i understand, you say, you don't have time to browse, do you have any other questions? we, as

journalists, must also monitor what ukraine is doing on the international stage, but what what is being done inside ukraine, because it is also important, it is also about democracy, and freedom of speech is one of the parts of this democracy, and, for example, when journalists find out that the president's office, i invite representatives of the anonymous telegram channel trukha, this is another telegram channel that is associated with the president's office, uh, and well , it's kind of strange when these people, not these people, these organizations, because this... now we know that this roman kravets is behind the joker telegram channel, but for this a journalistic investigation was conducted, time was spent, resources, confirmation and so on, here some journalists cannot get to a press conference with the president, to some meeting, to an interview and so on, and representatives of the anonymous telegram channel of the trukha get to meet, and this causes some

surprise and indignation already... of the journalistic community, because why are people with specific names and surnames and specific media and some people who are behind trukha's telegram channel, which receives, for example, some exclusive information, put on the same shoulders? or does just that telegram killer, which is engaged in providing unconfirmed information, it is also important, it is also about freedom of speech, about democracy, and for sure that our western partners, by the way, are in this investigation... gromadsky says that western partners also draw attention to the activities of anonymous telegram channels in ukraine. well, i even talked with the editors a little and suggested that they go and register in the draft, this is the only normal development, if they want to act as a conditional editor, because they have some editors there, so someone is joking texts, some polls take place from time to time, some speakers give comments, and well

, this is the only possible development. in some kind of civilized way, then they will be subject to regulation, including regulation, and regarding advertising there, because it is a bit strange if we say that we ban advertising on traditional media everywhere, which are subject to regulation of the gambling business, and there are some advertisements, i don’t know spins, slots, and so on, completely in telelezi, the only thing i can say is that i can’t comment. who is inviting whom, because i am a people's deputy and i work elsewhere, but we have a bill of authorship under consideration by a number of colleagues there, i am not the author, but a member of our committee, many have signed, which precisely regulate social networks, it is a little , well, let's say so, cheesy, but we will have the first discussion, if i'm not mistaken, we have already planned a meeting of the subcommittee on information policy, which i head, for july 5, we will be together

with various... with the department and with the ministries this is to be discussed with the council, and well, the only thing we can propose it or not propose again some solution in the legislative. ms. yevheni, thank you very much for your answers, good luck to you in strasbourg, this is ultimately ukraine's success in the diplomatic international arena. the people 's deputy of ukraine, the people's servants were with us, we want more people's servants, we want to talk to them more, we want the president's office, we want president zelenskyi. yermak and so on, i just want to have access to those bodies that actually decide matters in this country, which, for which often no one even voted, now i mean yermak, at the moment iryna koval is appearing, and this means that we will see what happened there in ukraine and the world, iro, i congratulate you on the floor. thank you, lesya, well, in just a moment i will tell you about mykola tyshchenko's suspicion.