to the union, yes, you are right, it is the defense forces on the battlefield that will choose our european integration, and without them, tomorrow is an extension, so a huge thank you to them, and the european union made a huge exception and began to directly support our defense forces through the special peace facility program. regarding the timing, there are political cycles, i have already commented on this in the press, i have hope. that in a five-year period ukraine will be able to complete its homework, which is a difficult 35 sections of technical documentation in completely different areas of our daily life, and maybe it will happen that we will be able to run for the next cycle of elections in the 29th year, we have public support, some regions show a figure of more than 80, more than 90%, let me remind you, in the early 2000s,

some did not even understand what european integration meant , today, when our communities and territories suffer from daily shelling, receive energy support, financial support, let's not forget the support project until the 27th financial year, 50 billion euros, and very, very many preferences for education, medicine, daily life ukrainians, these are practical things about which we should uh... do educational campaigns, we deal with this in the working group under the council of regions, under the president of ukraine, so that ukrainians know how to use these preferences, and we didn't just vote laws in the verkhovna rada, which receive a constitutional majority, that is , it is very important how they are practically implemented, ms. maria, well, we understand what preferences membership in the european union gives, at the same time, we understand that each of the eu members fights for their own interests. and sometimes on

as an example of our agricultural crisis with our neighbors, we can see that these battles can be extremely bright, how can we , you know, find a middle ground, still go to the eu and remain on the defense of our own interests, while not delaying our accession and. how much more do we have a meeting scheduled now, if you allow me, i will briefly answer to direct her to yes, look, everything is simple and difficult at the same time: our products have become extremely competitive, it is not just raw materials, it is added value and a product, which we already implement with eu standards. some experts have calculated how many subsidies, how many billions of euros in subsidies our agricultural sector will receive. and not everyone likes it, that is

, it is a question of competition, but ukraine also does not like it when partners violate international treaties that were signed even before the beginning of the invasion, when we sought justice for 90 years, talking about recognizing the holodomor as an act of genocide, when we saw how easy are you to fall out with e, not a tank, sorry, now i will concentrate on... cars and trucks, our grain, which, despite the mining of 30% of the territory of ukraine, our agrarians collect with overwhelming forces and try to implement, well, this was a political ugly game, which was organized by a small group of politicians, and they are not supported by the majority of the population, our friends of poland, we have to work with a politician'. with people and counter

disinformation, let me remind you that 95% of ukrainian grain went through transit, only 5% remained with our friends in poland, for example, and there are other figures that we should to speak, well, more loudly at international meetings, tomorrow i will communicate with polish colleagues, with your polish colleagues. thank you for your thoughts. and for the inclusion of maria mezyntseva, people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on ukraine's integration with the european union, head of the permanent delegation of ukraine to the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe. well, we remind you that today we are asking you whether you believe that ukraine will join the eu within 10 years, if you believe, then please call the number free of charge 0800-211-381 if you do not hang up.

there is no hope for that, then call free of charge on the number 0800 211 382. i can already see from the chat of our broadcast that the opinions of ukrainians are very popular. some of them question in general the form in which the european union will exist at the time of our actual entry into it, because the aggression of the russian federation and the victory of ukraine, which is the most important thing, are not yet a fait accompli. it is necessary to understand that anything can happen, especially when the political swings are turned on in the countries of our key partners and players. well, someone thinks that internally we are also not... working out enough and not doing enough in order to join the eu and be closer than we are now, by the way, there is another topic, this is that we are helped , and russian money will go, and ukrainian

money, and russian money will go to ukraine, in particular, next week ukraine will receive the first tranche in the amount of 2.5% of billions of euros from the revenues from the frozen assets of the occupying state, the chief diplomat of the european union, josep borel, let us hear what he said. we have these revenues from frozen assets, we have to find a way to use them, avoiding any blocking. we have a process in place to make this work quickly. the first tranche of money will arrive next week in july. second. in a few months, this money can't be stuck, it should be used, we have a legal procedure, and it's actually a big progress, so, so two years, we've been talking about it,

two years, we're in it, we've been emphasizing it, two years have been including our international partners, our closest states friends who said: ukraine needs to... hand over russian assets that are frozen in the us, in the european union, and what we're seeing now is actually a big breakthrough, it's cooler, i think it's cooler because yes, unfortunately, two years is a long time, but during these two years, the world democracy managed to find an extremely successful solution, which excludes any russian or chinese or. any arguments on the topic that everything, the west is dead, democracy is dead, no respect there is no ownership now, if you excuse me, you can just take it from russia and give it to ukraine, even though it is a victim, it undermines the principles and

foundations on which the entire civilized western world functions, and this form, which was invented, can actually be frozen, and to have interest, to have profit. from those bewitched assets and to give the profits to ukraine in order for it to defend itself against putin and his russians, this, in my opinion, is a very successful decision, when democracy refutes any, let's say , triggers against it, and with the other side ukraine gets what it needs, in fact we will now fight and live for putin's money against putin, but at the expense of the european union and joining here... we can also say that we should not entertain ourselves with illusions that it will be today or in at the end of the year or in a year, because in fact we observe that many ukrainians for some reason think that this process, if we become candidates, then

accordingly we must enter there or this year or next, we must understand that we a long process awaits us, a process awaits us reforms that we need including. to change, do we need to discuss with the european union, explain our position, by the way, and defend our position as well, but i emphasize once again, reform, unify our legislation, ensure that we meet the criteria, including anti-corruption , and we will talk about this in the next part, but now the interim results of the survey that we are conducting with you today. do you believe that ukraine will join the european union during 10 years, i see that the majority of those who call us are optimistic, 72% of our viewers and listeners believe that we have such a chance, and 28% are more

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it's a new week, we're back live on the espresso tv channel, and we'll now have about 45 minutes where we can also discuss the events we talked about with you in the previous hour with our expert. and about a lot of strategic issues, internal political issues in our country, strategic issues related to war, because war is essentially a question of world security, let's talk, of course, about the strikes on russia, about how the russians are burning now, about what declares putin, of course we are waiting for your questions, we will answer them, comment on youtube, write. in my social networks as well, and we remind you about the survey, we continue

to conduct it, you can still vote during this hour whether you believe that ukraine will join the european union in the next 10 years, the survey is free and you can call, if you think that it is, then call 0800-211381, if you think that it is not, then... call 0800 211 382, ​​we will wait for your calls and in at the end, of course, we'll sum up, we'll probably talk. so let's start with crimea, no, no, let's start with attacks on russia, but you rightly remarked, i 'll just remind you that on june 21 there was information about quite a lot of cotton in the krasnodar region, as it turns out, we are now talking about the military training ground 726- th air defense training center, military unit 33859 in yeysk, and now i will quote

the naval forces of the armed forces of ukraine. which for us officially specify what exactly was hit, which means that it was destroyed as a result of the strike. shahedov, so-called gerany, about 20 units, the attack uav lancet, 50 units, the reconnaissance uav zala, 40 units, the reconnaissance uav superkam 10 units, and there are also casualties among the training staff and technical personnel from yelabuga, bingo. i think it's bingo. well, since the naval forces. they present us the results of their work so clearly, simply and quantitatively, it is interesting how all this work could have been affected, perhaps even by our native neptune. well, but less so, about crimea, yes, andriy, about crimea, temporarily occupied crimea already is slowly getting used to the fact that it is actually a war zone. and, the defense forces of ukraine

act so brilliantly that, in principle, local residents. do not complain about some simply crazy destructive processes on the peninsula and destruction and so on, there is an understanding that ours work purely on military objects, but when the russians begin, perhaps in some way to counteract, or begin to play a play on the theme of war, then all this leads to terrible and very often tragic consequences, it happened in sevastopol, or rather in the district. sevastopol in uchkiv residents, those who, for those who know crimea, i think that this place is quite well known. the russians continue to put civilians next to military facilities and military facilities next to civilians, then we get tragic news that one of the vacationers died, although, well, i don't know if you can call it

tragic news when we are talking about people, colonizers , if not... purely military occupiers who came to crimea in order to carry out some of their dirty business there. when children die, it's a tragedy, but in no way, in my opinion, can the victim of aggression be accused of defending himself and choosing for himself the right not to be attacked, because when we talk about crimea, we are talking about launches on odesa, launches on mykolaiv, launches on kyiv are very often, reaches even to... to the western ukrainian regions, therefore the demilitarization of crimea is an extremely important task, and here is this situation in sevastopol, it stands out, stands out from the general background, it actually demonstrates, on the one hand, that the war is not far away, war at home in the first place residents

of the crimean peninsula, this is also a fact, and secondly, it is... actually at home, as they believe, the same occupiers and colonizers have a very simple recipe, i hope that with at least some analytical thinking, they would they should have already packed their bags and slowly moved to their magadans, why am i talking about magadan, because one of the dead on that beach is, if i'm not mistaken, the daughter of the councilor of the mayor of magadan, well, here we have to understand, and what were you doing there? one thing in fact, the first question, those people who were brought to crimea, and we well understand how russia is active, it always is, no matter what territory it occupies, its main action during the following years is what, this is a large resettlement, they did this already in crimea

after and before world war ii, after world war ii, they did this with crimea. they did this to ukraine, which they occupied once again, after we declared the independence of the ukrainian people's republic, the directorate of the ukrainian people's republic, that is , they are relocating their population in order to colonize this territory, this is the first thing, i'm sorry, please, i would like an amendment do when we say the russians are relocating their population, as if we are removing responsibility from this population, as if they don't... want to go, and bad mother russia is sending them there. dear, she is from magadan, she decided to go to our ukrainian crimea, relax on the beaches not... from sevastopol, which in itself is a huge military base, and why should we have even a little sympathy? we do not justify here, but

explain that those people who moved there are occupiers, that is, this is the main leitmotif of what i want to convey: we must understand that there is an indigenous population, there is another question, who collaborated with the occupiers, this is already a question for law enforcement agencies, but... there are colonizers, there are occupiers, and it is not necessary that the occupiers are those who in military uniform, no, i’m sorry, there are administrations, there are technical personnel who , conditionally speaking, well, i agree, were driven there, not driven, but, but they, they support all this, supported and will support it, so say that there , well, they are the occupiers, but there is another very important detail that is also... constantly used by the russians, it consists in the fact that they need victims, and it is even very good for them when somewhere in

some of their cities, in the occupied, in the occupied territory there are victims, there are killed, there are wounded, they always use it for their propaganda purposes, and therefore , of course, the russians do not care about the number of dead, the number of... wounded, the number of destroyed civilian objects, on the contrary, the imperial policy of the kremlin and the terrorist policy of the kremlin, it has always consisted in causing as much informational or real trouble as possible in including to its population, in order to consolidate it, this was done even before putin, but it especially started during the putin period, let's remember. the same detonations of houses that they carried out at the beginning, yes, the nordosts are the same and so on and so forth, and when they place their air

defense systems, in the middle of civilian buildings, in the middle of yards, in the middle of schools, kindergartens, they do everything on the contrary it is possible for there to be victims and then how much more these conditional people can be driven to war, this is consolidation. russian society, and therefore they will, and they use, and they will use any death of their people to their advantage inside their country, but it is just the height of cynicism to really send children to the occupied crimea to rest, well, that is, well, this, this, this daughter of the adviser to the mayor of magadan, well seriously, well, it's a child, but well, it's big, it's great patriotism for the rashists. their people, their children there, to rest in crimea, this is the height of patriotism, this is to show, listen, i

still, i still will not be surprised if they send them, for example, to rest in mariupol, they are doing it, by the way, by the way, just recently a few weeks ago, there was information, actually official, that the russians are planning to place air defense systems on the territory of the children's. what is the name of the camp, the artek children's camp, well, that is, they receive their children there, children from belgorod, in my opinion, they even send them there, and so there was a s-300, s400 or something stuck somewhere between the trees, maybe some armor , who, of course, is peaceful, and does not do anything bad and does not pose any threat to ukraine at all, funny, really funny, but at the same time ... sad, sad that things that should have been clear a long time ago, the russians are holding out to the last, just as putin himself is holding out to the last, not admitting that the war

with ukraine went into the wrong corner that he planned to lead her into, i think that he should have understood this in the first weeks of a large-scale invasion, but as they say, regretted, then regretted to the last, hold the brand, approx. but this is how it seems to me now that the last two years have been killed a huge number of its citizens, to destroy, or at least to exhaust its military potential as a country for a war with a country that does not obey, well, it does not obey you, it is very strange, but this is actually related to his position now to go to the end, well by the way, by the way, if we talk about this position, let's listen to the synchronization now, let's listen to what... what putin said, because he clearly says that the defeat in ukraine, or rather, not a defeat, but an occupation of ukraine, not the destruction of ukraine, these are not... statehoods

russia, let's see now. they say that they want to achieve a strategic defeat of russia on the battlefield. what does this mean for russia? for russia, this means the end of its statehood, that's what it means. this means the end of the thousand-year history of the russian state. i think it is clear to everyone. well, what we are talking about, for russia, the question of the occupation of ukraine, is a question in their absolutely sick imagination, of their survival, that is, we have to understand one thing, that this is an existential war. and here it is

not even about putin, it is not even about putin his entourage, the fact is that this is a position that is shared by the absolute majority of russians, it is a position that is not only today, it is a position that has always been there, and they did it even 300 years, 400 years ago, they are doing it now. and they will do it as long as russia exists as a state entity. we must understand this. and we must realize that the threat will not go away, and that this threat, unfortunately, is real and it will be real. the same is true for ukraine, by the way. question now, in fact, if not our victory.

our preservation as an independent state, the preservation of our people, our culture, our history, our language, our position on the world geopolitical chessboard, this is a question of the survival of our country, the fact that we have such a neighbor, unfortunately, this puts us in a similar way before a choice, and we understand either we or they. either they or we, and putin realizes this, we must realize this too, each of us, every ukrainian, every politician, everyone, every public figure, everyone must understand that we must do everything for for our victory, for the sake of our preservation, yes, but when we use rhetoric...

like, either we or they, well, we understand, and our european partners have said this many times, if the russian federation stops hostilities, then the war will end , if ukraine , on its part, stops hostilities against the resistance, then it will be the end not of the war, but the end of ukraine, and this is actually a big difference, i don't know if we can somehow fall into... maximalist thoughts about what the russian federation should disappear from the world map, for all of us i would like it to not really exist as a state entity, but let's be objective, we can only talk about its transformation into something with which it will be possible to at least somehow coexist behind the towering wall, this seems to me the most realistic , well, putin, who i am sure is not so good in 2020. in the 22nd year

, he imagined the year 2024 should want to get out of this mire into which he has driven his country and himself, and it seems to me that the events that had a place in dagestan could be perfect for this, in fact, in spite of everything a tragedy, probably, could be a great excuse, he could turn to his people and say, you know, this is the face of terrorism, because i'm sorry, an attack on a synagogue, an attack on a christian shrine, and all this does not say about some kind of tolerance, all this speaks specifically about terrorism, it is worth our attention, and in principle, to refocus and draw something new for the russians.