no precipitation is expected tomorrow, the maximum air temperature is 28° with such intense sun and until 29:30, in a word classic, summer with moderate heat, well, what will happen next, of course, as always, keep a close eye on our updated weather forecasts on the espresso channel . good evening, we are from ukraine. today in the verdict program. the finished project of the united europe. ukraine is on the way to full membership in the european union. how long will the european integration journey last and will it also lead to nato. war criminals of the world scale the international criminal court has issued arrest warrants for former russian defense minister shoigu and chief of the general staff ger. who

else could be charged and what could be the actual punishment? house arrest for the deputy. the court chose mykola tyshchenko as a preventive measure after the scandal involving the beating of a former military man in dnipro. who will bear political responsibility for the dubious actions of politicians from the president's team. well, it's me again, i remind you, my name is vasyl zemakhtel, who has now joined our broadcast, this is a program verdict, but today i will be its presenter, and during the next two hours we will discuss many important topics, well, we will , of course, report on what will happen during our broadcast, but we will start with what on june 25 as part of the next exchange of prisoners with ukraine managed to return 90 soldiers from russian captivity, we are watching a poignant video of the return. to the home

of our defenders, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, glory to ukraine, glory to ukraine, good evening, welcome, let's go, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, glory to the hero, glory glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, glory to ukraine, of course, i would very much like all our military personnel to return from captivity as soon as possible, both military personnel and civilians and kidnapped children, russia has caused a lot of trouble, well, besides what it receives in... . our military, it does not

detain them for the geneva convention, it tortures them, they have almost no evidence of torture , and every soldier who returns from russian captivity says that he was tortured, and the survey, we ask today, about what do you have alternative sources of electricity supply for your home, by the way, it is very interesting to know how ukrainians prepare for the cold, because autumn is still a few months away, so yes... 800 211 381, if you do not have alternative sources of electricity, then you please call 0800 211 38 2. please join us, such a question is practical, you know, not political, not something that can be hyped, but very practical, interesting . valentyna olyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, will spend the next few hours with us in an interesting conversation from motherland secretary of the verkhovna rada committee

on ukraine's integration into the eu, former head of the sbu in 2006, 2010 and 2014, 2015, mr. valentin, i greet you, good evening, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, but regarding eu integration, i immediately want to ask , well , let's start with the fact that ukraine is starting real, actual, as president volodymyr zelenskyi said, negotiations on joining the european union are called different terms: from seven to 10 years, from two to five. someone says that in general everything can happen much faster, what is the reality of how long will these negotiations last and what is it, well, where should ukraine work very well in order to speed up these negotiations or for them to be successful at all? the most important thing is that i myself work in this committee on european integration of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, i am the secretary of the committee there, and i can answer you completely professionally that negotiations on the accession of ukraine started yesterday. the first

intergovernmental conference was held in luxembourg, there will be a second one, but the issue is not in the conferences, in the terms, i absolutely responsibly declare that ukraine, those the pace at which we integrate. within two or three years, it is quite possible, in my opinion, and should complete the negotiations, and therefore come to a full-fledged agreement on membership, not on intentions, not on candidacy, during this time, we are already a candidate country, by the way, also in record time received such a status, and i will tell you what is the secret of such success of ukraine, first of all, because the armed forces of ukraine really heroically defend the country, and this... for example, this victory inspires our european partners, and they are all partners of the yeputin coalition for ukraine is for you and me, that is why i am saying that the situation is extremely favorable, the opportunity and ability within our country to complete

the reforms that are necessary in order to be a full member of the european union, and accordingly the negotiations, the negotiations will be in six months, i.e. in terms of meaning... the so-called clusters, but in fact these are six-seven sections, six-seven directions, where ukrainian negotiators, negotiators, there are 35 of them, determined by the decree of the president, within the next year, two will precisely lead these negotiations, here are the terms for you and here is the real content of what is happening now, well, we really wish success, of course, first of all to the ukrainian army and we will support it in every way, well, and ukrainian diplomacy, officials who directly and people's deputies as well, by the way , who will directly deal with this case, and the international criminal court of the united nations has issued arrest warrants for the former minister of defense serhiy shayga and this commander-in-chief, and the army of the russian

federation, the country of gerasimov's aggressor. tell me, please, if now, well, because i have one, i always like to think about some conspiracy theories, i don’t voice them, but i... they already think, it’s always interesting, and it’s always possible for people like gerasimov shaigu , who are in office at all, just get angry, take them to court, blame everything on them, in the event that there are any agreements or the need for negotiations with russia as a party, well, there are always people who can be angry and forget about putin, about other people who are actually the creators of this war and those people who putin was advised, i think that shaigu was definitely not among them, probably gerasimo too, but there were completely different people among them, and how do you evaluate this one? warrants, what should it lead to? i will tell you, as it really is, the dock in the hague is inevitably approaching putin, the two commanders-in-chief of the russian ministry of murder, who were issued arrest warrants

by the international criminal court in march of this year, and yesterday two more arrest warrants for the former minister of defense shaigu and the current head, general headquarters of the ministry gerasimov of the russian federation. this is a bench of defendants in gas. and the arrest warrants from the judges of the international criminal court are already clearly indicated there. mr. vasyl, let's tell our viewers this. quote: there is enough evidence to believe that these war criminals of the russian federation committed war crimes and crimes against humanity against ukraine during rocket attacks, this refers to the period from october 22nd to at least march 23rd, so such materials were in any case at the disposal of the judges of the international criminal court, but important qualification and qualification are given by international courts,

the international criminal court, clearly defines that they are war criminals, and there is sufficient evidence about their war crimes and crimes against. inhumanity, moreover, i predict and am sure that there will be more warrants, because finally the world community is entering the final stage of the international criminal trial against putin and his war criminals, and for us, for ukraine, this is extremely important, because it on issues of responsibility, personal criminal responsibility of every war criminal of the russian federation, and the second is compensation. damages, compensation for damages to ukrainians, and those who were or are in captivity, and those who were tortured in kherson torture camps, and those who lost their homes in mariupol, and the whole country is in ruins, and there is almost no ukrainian family, which, in one way or another, was not

affected by russian aggression, and these are huge, huge losses for ukrainians, citizens and ukraine and the ukrainian economy, well, now especially energy, it is in this is important. and personal, criminal liability, and the issue of compensation for damages to ukraine. well, now we continue with the topic of war, the topic of russia, but from a slightly different angle,... but first we will listen to the commentary, so the head of the pentagon, the secretary of defense of the united states of america, lloyd austin had a conversation with the head of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, andriy bilousov, newly appointed, i will remind those who may not be following, he was appointed instead of shaygu, we were there some time ago, i discussed the war in ukraine with him, about it pentagon spokesman patrick ryder said, let's listen, today secretary austin spoke on the phone with the secretary. during the conversation, the minister emphasized the importance

of maintaining communication lines against the backdrop of russia's war against ukraine. secretary austin last spoke with his russian counterpart, then russian defense minister sergei shoigu, on march 15, 2023. march 15, 2023, we are now here, they haven't talked for a year and a half, well, they obviously never have. they won't talk, but he is suspicious, there is already a warrant for arresting him, what with to talk to him, he needs to be brought to the gag, march 23rd, it was still, i remember now about the situation at the front, well, actually it was always difficult, i remember, it was in my opinion even before the explosion of kokhovskaya hydroelectric power plants, if i 'm not mistaken, before that, just like that, but here 's why, because people who, let's say, do not know these subtleties of diplomacy, politics, the fact that it is necessary to always have some kind of contact with the connection between nuclear states, the largest nuclear states the world, they will say, this is treason, now they will agree on our backs and that's all,

this should be explained, please explain. i worked in washington for more than one year as the consul general of ukraine, so i will not only explain, but i know that such a line between the ministries of defense of the united states and russia has been established and it was established more than 20 years ago, and this telephone line is not for politicians and not for of any conspiratorial or not... political agreements, this is a line exclusively of prejudice and warning about possible military threats, or not prejudice of military provocations, more specifically, when the russian federation launches another wave about the possible use of nuclear weapons, or about a possible , you know, strike somewhere in the arctic, well, a lot of russian propaganda invents and, you know, defiantly spreads, then this line works, and then... telephone conversations take place, now there was a telephone conversation at the level of the head of the pentagon, this is the secretary

of defense of the united states, mr. austin, with the new, now not relatively new, but for the americans, the new minister of defense of the russian federation, belovusov. the content of the conversation, which related to ukraine, was of two types points first, there was a harsh warning from the american side regarding the non-use of weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons, and the second is american. the party clearly confirmed that as part of ramstein, as part of military aid to ukraine, in accordance with the defense aid package approved by the us congress, the united states supplied and will continue to supply high-precision weapons for the defense of ukraine. there are actually two main topics. and of course, i think that the ukrainian military-political leadership is very well understood, there are a lot of important things... important things need to be done, which may have been impossible before due to the lack of weapons, now they are allegedly

transferring them, but yesterday even shells on the czech initiative finally arrived in ukraine, plus high-precision weapons, which are provided by the united states of america, missiles , atakamtse, all this is very important to achieve a lot, well , plus, the mobilization is going successfully, even the ministry of defense says so, even those people who always said that our mobilization is bad, now they say, well, as if it is somewhere, oh is. will have time to do it by november, in november there will be elections in the united states of america and there may be a new head of the white house, well, the new old donald trump, he made such a statement that if he wins the elections in the united states, donald trump will do everything necessary to establish peace and restore american power and deterrence on the world stage, this is stated in the comments of trump's staff to the voice of america request. well, actually, i quoted, let's look at this quote now, let's listen. yes, i, i will voice her, but you see her. president trump has repeatedly stated that the main

priority of his second term will be to agree on an end to the russian-ukrainian war as soon as possible. president trump, well it's a lifetime title, he was the president, so he president trump believes that european countries should pay a larger share of the costs of the conflict because the us has paid significantly more, which is unfair to our taxpayers . well, please tell me, will trump really be able to? a few days will solve, as he says, the conflict, and, as they call it there, eh, something will promise russian aggression against ukraine, in fact, and... and in the trump team, which is responsible for security and defense, it is clearly called, no one there calls the conflict, it is a war of russia against ukraine, but i want to reassure the ukrainians, our tv viewers a little , that, for example, the debates in the usa will begin tomorrow, and what will be heard and heard in the us at the political debates does not

mean that someone is going to do it, it is a political process, and it is the business of the americans and then the american voter . decide for who to vote for, and this is more for the voter, by the way, and there are all these debates and current statements, since there is an election campaign, well, it is already clear that if there is a debate tomorrow, it is already in full swing, the peak of the political campaign, but turning away from politics to reality, and the reality is the following, a completely different event will be of great importance for us, it is next month's nato summit in washington, and indeed there the americans will not just host... the summit of the alliance, but there will also be a very serious and special place for ukraine and decisions about how to help further armed forces of ukraine. i know that a serious decision is being prepared, after all, to launch a fund worth 40 billion dollars, at least from member countries of the alliance for aid to ukraine, aid to the armed forces

of ukraine. i will say the priority of this fund, which will be determined immediately: air defense in ukraine. and not only and not so much the systems themselves, but additional detection and guidance radars, and most importantly - the missiles themselves, because to all, as to all the air defense systems that currently cover the ukrainian skies, ukrainian cities, there is not enough of anything, of course, missiles, and it's us, i'm talking about nasance, and the arst, and the patriots, and this is the component, the important component that, for example, if you ask me what we do and what we discuss by... partners before the summit in july, we insist and we emphasize precisely this, so that the armed forces of ukraine, our anti-aircraft forces, urgently need these ammunitions. and it is absolutely fair, you noted, the czech initiative of half a million, half a million 155 mm projectiles for the ukrainian

artillery from yesterday to today , thank god, is already at disposal of the armed forces, which means that... the south, east and north, our brigades, especially artillerymen, will now have enough ammunition to fight back and knock out the thief, but we have to achieve the same situation in the supply of missiles for air defense of ukraine. you know, we, just yesterday we were talking on the big airwaves with a deputy of the kherson city council from kherson, and i say how there is shelling, artillery, she says, and now even from our side. did not come out of the enemy, well, it is meant from the left bank of the kherson region, where the enemy is, so i am everywhere yes, of course, i understand very well that this is not the case, but here it is important that a new person has become at the helm of nato, the secretary general of the north atlantic alliance, mark rutt, the former prime minister of the netherlands, and here is

what he says about it , director of the council of europe, white house national security mike carpenter in the voice of america commentary. and some people don't like it, but i personally like the metaphor of the bridge to nato, because that's exactly what we're trying to achieve, the so-called bridge to nato is necessary for that ukraine could join the alliance on the same day, when there is political will for it, that is very, very important to understand, and mark rutte, in fact, can go down in history as the secretary general who, under whose rule, or whose leadership and nato will be... widespread and actually ukraine will be part of the north atlantic alliance, how do you assess, how do you assess the prospects, the prospects of mark rutte's work, i absolutely agree, first of all, with your conclusion, mr. vasyl, secondly the second is very positive for us the news that one of ukraine's allies, the prime minister of the netherlands, mark rutte, will indeed be the new secretary general, and

from july with the new secretary general there will also be a new nato, nato will also change, there is no doubt... and first of all it will change in terms of greater, more serious support for ukraine and b) for us, for ukraine, we will do everything possible to join this defense alliance as soon as possible. for nato, such decisions are to be prepared by us, no one else. well, as an example, i will give another year, two, maybe three years ago, how many skeptics there were out of disbelief ukraine will not be a member of the european union, we will not, not soon... get the status of a candidate, and it is not known at all about accession, when we will start negotiations, so what, we answered, we became a candidate a year ago and answered that negotiations on accession began yesterday, so... in the same way , we need to continue to hold our position and move and strive for membership in nato. moreover, i repeat that it is very good news for us that mr. rutte will become the new

secretary general, and very good news that all 32 countries, members of the alliance, are partners of ukraine, are partners of ukraine in the anti-putin coalition. you know, every night i try to watch different experts, both ukrainian, and those russians who have entered... left russia, but they also voice something there, of course, i divide all this into two, three, but recently there are a lot of such there is news, putin made a decision, well, i am translating into ukrainian, very often these headlines are like this on youtube, they say something terrible happened there, something terrible happened, it just kills me this phrase, it always, something terrible happened, putin made a decision to inflict a nuclear blow, it is already known when it will be a nuclear attack, the evacuation of the kremlin is being prepared, and similar things, but this topic is spreading, and so what... that putin can, well, he is not the only one who makes this decision, we understand, but that the kremlin allegedly decided to to strike an obviously tactical nuclear weapon on the territory of ukraine wherever or wherever they are still thinking, and

even the ministry of foreign affairs of turkey has already made a statement regarding the possibility, well, nuclear war is difficult to say, because ukraine does not have nuclear weapons, a nuclear strike is obviously on the territory of ukraine and what it can do lead, let's listen. this is what i will obviously announce myself then, if we do not listen, in a word, the war in ukraine can spill over into other countries and grow into a nuclear one, said the minister of foreign affairs of turkey, hakan fidan, the issue of the possibility of using nuclear weapons may be on the agenda, he believes he, how do you assess the risks of putin's use. nuclear weapons, and if this is the contact between the pentagon and the russian ministry of defense, i think there are other contacts that can tell russia what will happen if you

decide on the task of striking a tactical weapon, before that it was said that in this case the entire black sea fleet of russia would be destroyed in fact with one blow from the marble, aegean, mediterranean seas, the nato fleet, the us sixth fleet, there and so on, but now and so we that... the fleet has already been knocked out little by little, how, what arguments can there be for putin, and is it really not just bluff, but a real possibility? i clearly appreciate it, it is like another russian ipso, especially based on such propaganda bluffs and bluffs and myths second, at the beginning of this broadcast, you and i partially denied that russia can or is planning to strike any... weapon of mass destruction, including nuclear or other weapons, not only nuclear weapons , we denied this and i clearly confirmed that it was for this reason that the head

of the pentagon, the us secretary of defense, called the russian minister of defense to make sure and convince, as before, not to even think about using nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction, these are war experts the military and they know what they are talking about, i mean... the pentagon, secondly, as before there are mechanisms to restrain the russian federation of putin personally, and now, believe me, they have not become weaker, much more serious. therefore, i conclude that this is russian ipso, which may have reached turkey a little late, but turkey also announced that, firstly, we need to keep our heads cool and sober, and secondly, confirm that our allies are, first of all. nuclear powers both restrained and are restraining the russian federation. i thank thank you for your comments. thank you for joining the conversation, valentyn lyvaychenko, people's

deputy of ukraine. this homeland, he also headed the security service of ukraine in the past and is in the parliamentary committee on european integration. thank you mr. valentin, and now let's see how you vote. we asked if you have alternative sources of electricity for your accommodation. the results will be at the end of the hour, so yes 0, 800 211 38 and one no 0.800, 211, 38 and 2, so alternative sources of electricity for your residence are interesting, which, well, maybe here we will see how ukrainians are once again preparing for the cold, and actually it is necessary now, we understand, the children are old, people who have certain restrictions, well, light, electricity very often... but now it is there i can lie down and sleep when there is no light or do something by candlelight, but there is something that needs to be heated, water is given to the sick somewhere, well, in a word,

we know that... it is necessary, and i need it too necessary, but i will survive, so now we have valery romanenko, an aviation expert, leading researcher of the state aviation museum, we will talk about military topics and front-line topics, mr. valery, i congratulate you, and good evening, i am glad, glad to see and hear, well, actually, let's start with something from what could not be to please and instill a certain confidence and maybe cautious, but hope... to ukrainian citizens, because the military, they are fighting, they are not there hoping for something or cautious hope, they are simply fighting with what is and have a result, or not have some result, but citizens who are out of line the front, and they certainly have some hopes and expectations, watching what is happening on the front, the means provided by the enemy, provided by the enemy, allowed the armed forces of ukraine to expand their strikes on the territory occupied by the russian federation, there are also flights over the territory of russia, please comment.

where are the limits of these borders, where can we go now and what else do we need, how do you evaluate what the defense forces have already managed to do with the weapons that our partners have provided us? well , you see that there are 300 on the nosedromes km, that is, if we take, let's say, the operational depth, then 300 km, it would be normal in order to suppress the actions of russian aircraft. or to drive it so far, well, not to olinigorsk, but still somewhere near volgograd there and further, so that it would be necessary to fly to the front line for at least an hour and a half, unfortunately, there is no such permission, but still some, well, let's say so , the ice has been broken in this matter, and it is very encouraging, well, let's say that ukraine was able, i don't know what means of defeat, whether it was drones or something else,

set fire to in my opinion, whether it was in rostov or , in my opinion, in the voronezh region, in my opinion, it was the voronezh region, a huge warehouse with weapons, the territory there is several hectares, quite seriously, there we are now seeing this video, if this is the one , there exploded and burned from the night somewhere until noon, and then in my own way and further, i understand that these are our drones, and by the way, how do you assess the effectiveness and struggle of the enemy against our drones, there was recently a story about , that the russians are... planting even their own drones, which are flying towards ukraine, there, that is , the frightened teroborona, their belgorod region, they are already planting everything they can, and they are fighting, how effective drones are, again, if we talk about such formations, is it really possible to achieve this with our means, does it already work here too, well , other means of destruction provided by partners, well, this is a question rather for the spokesmen of the armed forces.

suppressed the blows, it is they who must respond, if they have the appropriate permits, the situation is that we can use drones to attack anyone don't ask where to hit, that's why our drones are our everything, with our drones we can hit to, well, where to the extremes, even to engels, there were further strikes there 1,500 km away, if they hit the vorona region, you need to see what the range is to this warehouse, rather... all these were still our missiles, but if we were to use western missiles, then we would have to ask for permission, if it is more than 100 km, the situation is like this, with drones we can hit any distance to any objects on russian territories, the only thing that the russians really have is a powerful, powerful reb system, that is, let's say, a drone.