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a wonderful, interesting guest, a person who defended us and you, and let's talk a little about the army behind the scenes, rostislav antimys, a veteran in our studio, mr. rostislav, we are glad to welcome you, congratulations, mr. rostislav, not typical, not in camouflage, even with someone so cheerful, i'm already tired of this, so positive t-shirt, who knows english, yes, yes, in the background of the t-shirt, i bought it before the war. so it will fit into the war and that philosophy of perception of life for those who do not know english samurai yes we will all die we will all die so when god knows but now you are a veteran how long ago became a veteran and what do you do? i still remember veterans, when such veterans came to us for plasty, they always told us that now i am in this status, well, i'm sorry, what was

the question, what do you do in the status of a veteran? resting, resting, well, at the moment i'm adjusting to civilian life, i won't say what, what, it's hard, just the last, recently i was in a training center, we, we were within the limits of civilization, yes, so i'm not surprised people who go to torogo-entertainment centers, that is, everything, everything is okay, a psychiatrist i know recently told us that he's working now with the military who have... severe ptsd, who have been through a lot of horrors on the front lines and so on, and he says that one thing i've realized is that we keep saying how to adapt back , for example, veterans, wounded and so on, i say, we need to do differently, or at least a counter movement, the adaptation of society to military thinking and a military way of life, because this is for a long time, yes, that's right, you know, you are here now, that's how we started , you smile, and i imagine the audience, some... sitting near the screens and saying, well, this

he probably wasn't in the trenches somewhere, he didn't see anything terrible, he has on a t-shirt that we will all die, well, you can of course take it all philosophically in such a t-shirt, when you are far from the front line, but you were in hell and this hell saw how you find this strength to be able to smile, and a difficult and simple question at the same time, well, first of all. maybe because i'm an established person already, yes, because the younger ones, what i've watched, the younger guys who are out there on adrenaline, charged up, it's harder for them when they get into stressful situations, it seems a little more difficult for them, and of course the support of friends in the family, this is the most important thing when you feel this behind your back, well, it is somehow easier, mr. rostislav, you a few months ago, as i understand it, that you already... then you became a veteran,

since april, since april, you wrote such a post, which is quite sharp, and describes the not, not very pleasant sides of the army. which has such a large soviet background and it obviously has a very strong influence on that, we don't talk much about any such behind-the-scenes, because it is not accepted, because it is a war, because is it time to say such a thing, because the enemy will use it, because the enemy will use it, why did you dare to post this and , in the end, what did you write in it, what truth did you bring out of the house, i brought out the truth about... the leadership of the training center, well, the very first thing i wanted to convey to the processes that are not focused on the result, on the fact that it happens, on checks, the attitude towards

the instructors, that's it, because, well, on the other hand, i'm sure in the fact that a cadet who came to us, to us, the center, we did everything it is possible to give them a good education, indeed, i have seen how boys, girls, the percentage of girls recently was 20-30, these were girls, uh, well, they came like this, you know, pens, there is an automatic machine, somehow, i in 30 days of safety, about this initial course, yes, they are in a legal shooting range, they move normally, they feel the weapon as if it were their own body, well, this is this on... very nice, and actually there is such a confrontation here, on the one hand on the other hand, there were motivated instructors, whose numbers became less and less, because it was hard to bear it, these are, you know, called the army, take it easy, when you are asked for some last, last, last

drops, that is when the head of the training center, the commander of the training center came to the instructors in the room and said that the slippers are not standing correctly, that is, it is said, it is said... to mature people , this is when the cadets arrived, who were then supposed to move to another training ground, yes, but they were with us for a week, and the minister of internal affairs recently showed on a video that he knows who, who is doing military service, and who is not based on how the bed was made, this, this is beautiful video, it's just, well, it's terrible, really, it's terrible, it's terrible, because, well, it's, this soviet union in the head further, these tank tops. then these for widows and the like, well, this is all that was the worst in the soviet union in the army, it migrated to such a post-soviet army in our country, and this is what friend taver wrote about, well, this is his, this is this post, this is a conflict not even between generations, but

rather between environments, the environments of these post-soviet military and the newest ukrainian military, and well, this is this, lutsenko also also... he mentioned this, this is this is another war, i understand that the army is not completely homogeneous, that is, there are, for example, brigades where the story is the same, somewhere other brigades have a completely different situation, is it not quite correct to say so, there are different environments, and we led, our effectiveness, we can see it in combat operations, these units were formed from volunteers, so basically there were volunteers and... demotivated guys, nationalists came, yes, they, they are charged, they are motivated, do you remember if still there in the 14th and 15th years, here is the right sector fought, yes, then the other brigades of the country asked, listen, give us a few right-wing sects so that they can simply be motivators, and now, somewhere, approximately

also, here are all the environments that are formed from volunteers, so they are very effective, here i am i just wanted you to explain to me these... figures: 96%, it seems, of ukrainians trust the armed forces of ukraine. and probably, in theory, this meant that people were ready to go to war. but there is, for example, a large, recent municipal survey, where, say, in zaporizhzhia, where it seems that the front several tens of kilometers, only 5% said that they would take up arms if the enemy came close to the outskirts of the city. i somehow can’t compare those numbers, 96% trust, but only 5% will defend themselves, this is the result of a single marathon, these single news and the like, yes, this is a consequence of promoting cities to ukrainians, i believe in the armed forces, this message, i believe in the armed forces , that is, there is us, and there is some

zsu somewhere, but the zsu holds it, and we believe in it, yes, if we don’t have muskels in lviv now, it means that the sulu is being handled normally there, well, the fact that the front is bursting at the seams is... few people understand this, but i believe, believe in the zsu, this is there, this is this statistic, so somewhere, you actually said in that post of yours that when, for example, journalists from the only news... showed up at the training center, then such a big mess began that exactly what was happening, everything had to be demonstrative, everything happened like this, everything happened demonstratively, and even the commanders understood this and the teams well , they were very upset about this, that what interferes with these processes, and well, that's it somehow it was all done on camera, somehow, well, not unnatural, although if and... if only journalists came and filmed our classes normally, the material would be like this, by the way, i

wonder why it doesn't happen, i actually a lot of people don't understand , why do they try to show what is not there, but do not show the good that is, because someone perceives society as small children, children need to be given a beautiful picture not just because, well, people are not idiots, they understand that what it's done ostentatiously, yes it's natural, take it off the feelings, for example, were after this filmed advertising video, social, where the father, for example, is fighting in the army, the children are waiting for him, and then we found out that it is a complete one-to-one copy of an advertisement for jeeps, cars in general, american cars, i watched the original , and he really touched me, he brought tears to my eyes, because i suddenly felt this great pride for the country. for some spirit of patriotism, and this is an advertisement for cars, completely commercial, and here is an advertisement that

was made, stolen, well, okay, american, copied from the american accuracy to the fact that they made a swing, as in the american advertisement, i have never seen such a swing in my life, for example, in ukraine, nowhere on any playground, they liked it so much that it was like that, lack of imagination, but, but there are no such feelings, and it seemed that this is exactly ours, it is in the pixel, because this is what we have to live with, this is what we have to feel, what other sovietness remains in our army, the one you described, i was struck by what you said that many people, who use the russian language in managerial positions, that's right, you go to the headquarters training center, it's 70 percent, probably the russian language, well, i'm already tired of making comments, because i had, well, actually some criticism and comments from the army, can it be very bad for you? to reflect on you, so the chief of the formation department strictly, i

spoke with an employee of the formation department, the formation department, and the formation department, and i say, i apologize, you could speak ukrainian, i delicately made a remark, this one breaks off the table, how dare you indicate in which language talk, you will get out of here, well, when when i tried something. which mechanism should be started, a report should be submitted, or something else to the head of the formation, it’s just that the commander of the training center cut two two days of vacation so meanly, so just give him two days of vacation, well, you know such and such things, and you can resist it you can’t, well, no, the army is not a democratic structure, there is no voting here, there may be a system of reports, but the report will not be submitted, it is somewhere behind... fought, but now my instructors are submitting reports on the transfer of instructor payments, which them

they don't pay, i don't know, it's been a year and a half, probably they don't pay instructor payments, because someone somewhere didn't submit some documents, well, this is happening now in the training center, i'm constantly maintaining relations with the boys, communication, i say, listen, something changed after this post, because i know that this post was told to me, i was in the ministry of defense, i was in the general staff, i was in the committee. of the text of the verkhovna rada, that is , they know about it, guys, something has changed, nothing has changed, only this poltava chief of the center was promoted to colonel, so such things happen, these posts actually how many already 20 days ago, there was also a resonant post by ivan mateyk, the battalion commander, who wrote about such zhukovschyna, when in fact. surrender, when, when the battalion commander is faced with a dilemma, whether he

should withdraw from the position to save the people, or whether he should put his people, get a reward for it, and just, i don't know, it seems to me that this is the main problem now, the resignation of this general sodal , we, for example, are civilians, we do not know whether these accusations make sense, but we also do not know because we are from the very beginning... that we will not talk about the loss, and what the losses actually are, everyone who wants to learn about the losses, he basically knows about them, there is this loses, for example, which lead completely. monitoring all public mentions of burials there, i don’t know, under 50,000, it seems only those buried in cemeteries , there are statistics of missing persons there , it seems more than 25,000, and we understand that there are several thousand prisoners, and the rest, well, somewhere, that’s roughly how it is, that is, but because of that that we don't have

official recognition of these losses, i'm just saying i wonder if it is worth something then? life in the army, if the account of these lives is not kept officially, how many people died in the mines, how many marines, did we pay a high price or not a high price, but as we know, officially this marine brigade, two brigades have already been staffed twice with almost zero, cares, this is exactly what i mentioned, the attitude of our state leadership towards... society as if it were children, like, you don't need to worry about the children, what expenses, losses and the like we have, so why, why are the israelis they announce everyone, everyone, all their losses, well , give people the opportunity to look at the war realistically, and not through rose-colored glasses, what would it change, the adequacy of acceptance, i think about simply that people would adequately understand that the war is here, the day before yesterday i was at the funeral of my brother,

i thought to myself that... i think that in our city there are many people who have never been there on the martian field, and there are more and more graves, and it grows and grows, yes, there already there are at least three of whom i knew very well, yes, yes, uh, president zelenskyi is there today, i hope that he these thoughts also come to mind, and eh... aren't we too much then we will dilute such pessimism in this whole story, if we start telling the truth about what is happening, well , it's not meant to be the truth, it's just and good things, we don’t say them either because we don’t talk about anything in principle, for me nebizh got, for example, to mykolaivska, well, to the marines, and he was a shock for him in tsk, a shock ,

because he said that he saw there people who decide the lives... of other people, those people to him did not like them, and he did not understand why they decided, this again did not apply to those people who brought him to ittsk, but to those who sat there in the offices, he had a shock, but the next month he had such positive impressions , he was satisfied with the quality of the training, he was satisfied with the instructors, and the attitude, and some kind of fighting spirit that reigns there and the brotherhood, everything is great, well, there is a lot of good, well, the only thing is that one month is only training, we said that it is big... spent at least, it seems, god, you don't have to go far to follow examples, in lviv sss, galicia, the 14th grenadier division, for more than two years, and the training lasted, nigameri, well , of course, the training lasted a long time, and they were equipped with the best, the best samples of german weapons, is a month enough, little, little , well, two months, i think,

with intensive on... no, practice of all skills, is enough for us to have a trained infantryman, shooter, right? and besides that, your specialization is already, yes, machine gunner, grenade launcher, mortar, that 's a plus before that, and yes, well, in two months it is really possible to raise a fighter like us, as it should be with the truth, we have to somehow dose, in fact, how often we have to endure. garbage, and here is how to find such a, you know, healthy, healthy balance so that the enemy does not take advantage, but so that we are not an infantile society, not little children, military secrecy and military censorship are justified in our country, but where it harms, we have to turn off critical thinking, analyze, just think about the consequence, well actually a lot of the time, i often

notice that journalists do not understand this, when they, well, sometimes for the sake of hype, they throw out such information... which, well, is simply not needed, and it’s one thing, if she has already gone to the moscow pubs, she can already fulfill it, and she has not yet gone, you see, that’s the moment which again today, we had oles molyarevich, i am already afraid to say it on the air, because god forbid oles molyarevich will be removed, for example, from commenting, i honestly say it as it is, but there is oles molyarevich, which in the well-known very unit the first battalion of drones, which was created in ukraine, is itself known. director, documentarian in a peaceful life in civilian life, and i also tell him about the fact that botusov says that we need to stabilize the front and take strong positions for negotiations, this is... this is the goal, in fact, this is the goal, it should be called, and we must strive for it, but now there was a survey of ukrainians, and only 8% of ukrainians said that this is our goal, because some of them want

to continue to win back crimea, well, how do they want to win back crimea, well, sitting on the couch somewhere, or rather where anywhere in spain at all or in germany, how do we overcome this gap, on the one hand, the government strengthens it, this infantilism, well, with its politics... propaganda is not very wise, it seems to me, yes, because we will not surpass the russians here, because they are ready to die , then there is, then if the cattle, i’m sorry, they were taken, they left and died, there are no questions, they are ready to fight to the last muskar, well, they are not ready to fight to the last, they just, well, they will lose everything, in case of which, they will lose everything, ugh , but how can we be here, how can we overcome this gap, just this gap between, that is, between those 92%. and specific malyarevich, who all this time is fighting for these 92% to continue to be in pink clouds. as for propaganda,

when my neighbor lyubomyrguzar said the following phrase: to expose lies and spread the truth, this seems to be our goal. again, it's true, if it's classified information, then it's true, but it's harmful truth, right? well, well, only the truth. only the truth, because when, when people feel they're being cheated, take a look, take for example the guy who's sitting around waiting to be to mobilize when he sees that everyone around is lying, yes, he is afraid to go to war, yes, because they will lie there too, that in reality it looks different, and when there is some objectivity, some sense of reality, then well then trust arises, yes, then trust arises, in fact, it loses here. it is this trust in the command, in the leadership of the state and the like, and that is why it is simply fertile ground for the russian ipso, when we have doubts, we have some kind of

information vacuum, then this vacuum is filled by russian ipsoshniks, and you please note that there is almost no ipso where there would be one hundred percent russian lies, of course, well, this is a standard method, we take, take the truth and mix in a little lie and that's it. now they removed, for example, this one, we have almost no time left, they removed the vinnytsia head of ov, who was once a kvn officer there, a partner there, friends of the president there and so on, well, they removed less of that, but this happened after the russian , in particular , they began to spread videos in all kinds of public places, where a person looks like him, as if calling him back in time of the conflict of tsc employees and those people are simply being taken somewhere, those people with whom he had a quarrel, we don't know whether it's true or not, and that. supposedly a russian police officer, but there is a dismissal without comment, as if his heart turns out to be sick, he overdid it, and we understand that there is no alternative

to mobilization, mobilization is the right thing, the employees of the tcc are doing what is necessary, well, here in this situation there just has to be a lightning-fast reaction of the command, so there has to be instant communication with the people, yes communication is not only not just silent with... the rate is yes, there must be, there must be communication, which we have very, very much, well, that is, it is there, but it is at the level that we talked about, mr. rostislav, i hope that everything your experience and your desire to defend the truth are the same, it will give its results, its fruits, one way or another, many viewers write here, send you greetings from kamianskyi, from odessa, thank you for this ether, for talking with you, there are wishes, of course we talked about the layer. about the importance of patriotic upbringing, because you are from the stratum, but i think that we we will meet with mr. rostislav again and we will talk once more, when he gets a little absorbed in this

peaceful life, he may have some more thoughts, and he will share them on his page, thank you for participating in our broadcast, rostislav antimys, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war , was with us, dear friends, stay with us, we still have one hour ahead and many more interesting guests, interesting conversations, we will also talk about the day of the constitution, and also... we will talk about the book of our presenter khrystyna parubiy about women who went to the war stay with us. attention, a profitable offer. order the smart light bulb at a special promotional price. only 149 hryvnias. durable, reliable and so powerful. and the price is only 149 hryvnias. in stores, ordinary light bulbs cost more than uah 250. and we offer. you get a light bulb that lights up, even when there is no light, for just uah 149. take advantage of this great offer: the smart light bulb works even without electricity, up to 6 hours without

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