a meeting at stanford on the economics , jurisprudence and politics program, where he said that ukrainians are waging an existential war, that while they are fighting, they live and exist as a state, if they stop doing this, it will not happen, that is, this is what he is going to now around the world and tells, and it seems to me that now everything has changed very clearly, we, if they do not give us weapons and until now they did not give us help, norway, japan got involved and blocked this period, and we do not even have ambassadors there, as of now , we, we, as a state, are not either we will work on some areas. partners, if we currently lack any weapons, we start making kamikazes, our ukrainian team is now trying to order kamikazes from a ukrainian manufacturer, well , taras, do you remember how it started in 22nd year, and now it is thousands, who can make 10 -20 thousand, we just need to find resources to buy it, if we do not make it ourselves, that is, it is a system when, thank god, we ukrainians start inventing something to help us stand, but we need to do it and convince the world, even fukuyama changed his mind, short.

andreyki's retort, and then exactly energy? well, i will move on smoothly, but it will not be short, i will give counterarguments, at the expense of the fact that it is necessary to be very calm with nato and not to scare nato, in the period from february to may of the 24th year , the nato exercise statefast defender 24 was held, in which participated in such a number of servicemen, which had not been seen since the second world war, namely more than 100,000, especially since these servicemen were transported from north... america to of the european union, and actions have been taken to retake or control territories ranging from northern europe to the arctic, then troop transports have taken place from the atlantic coasts of the european union to central europe, and this approach and show of force by the european union does not at all indicate that nato is very afraid of someone there. in addition, agreements on the supply of finland and sweden have been signed. 70

f-35 aircraft, and these are the highest sixth- generation aircraft, capable of hitting significant numbers of the enemy there, indicates that nato clearly understands the risks that come from the russian federation, along with the confirmation that the russians have weakened according to the information of our analysts there, during 2024, at least 10 times, the russians in different ways through various intermediaries turned to ukraine, to the ukrainian government. we are about the beginning of any kind of changes, why, because this country is exhausted and how to move forward, they do not know, the position of our western partners consists in a clear list of grounds and arguments and conditions that must be observed and fulfilled in order to start such negotiations . one of such conditions - this is directly providing the opportunity to operate the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. why? because on the threshold of the winter crisis, in my opinion, the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant with its six reactors can cover half of 50...

of the current energy needs of ukraine, so to say that nato is afraid of someone is actually, well, not quite correct, that that ukraine is going to negotiations, you understand, diplomatic relations are relations, as if a whip and gingerbread, something is given, as a retreat, as a compromise, but there are other arguments, nato countries, i will remind you, in the 24th year, separately canada, norway, latvia, lithuania, and including it was confirmed by the statement of the general himself, gave up to... the ukrainian armed forces to strike with western weapons on the territory of russia, as in fulfillment and implementation of article 51 of the un charter, the right to self-defense, therefore, in principle , even the peace summit that was held, this is an unprecedented case in the history of diplomacy, when in the hot phase of war countries meet for agreements and reaching a compromise, time will tell what it will be, but the fact that the negotiations at this stage will not be initiated by the ukrainian side , on the contrary by the russians, who... are on the brink, the fact that the russians

are hitting our infrastructure facilities, because they cannot inflict other damage on the front, they suffer from a lack of logistics, weapons, old soviet models that they have already removed from warehouses, shows only one thing: we must form our contractual position in order to survive the winter as quickly and better as possible, to preserve our infrastructure, and this should be the main argument for starting to talk about something with russia. svyatoslav pavlyuk, it seems that this week, i i do not want to judge now about... about all cities, although they say that the situation in kyiv is also very difficult, but it seems to me that lviv has been in such a critical situation for the last few days, at first there was no full-scale invasion, do you agree with this thesis, what is happening in general, if you are talking about energy, that is, with the blackout, now we have no light, stryyska street, where our office is located, we work on generators and there is almost no chance that it will appear. well, the situation is absolutely

predictable, understandable, we have a shortage of system, this situation will not change until the end of next year, in the 25th year the deficit in the power system will persist. the only, the only option, that this deficit can be overcome, is the actual inclusion in the ukrainian energy system of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, which is occupied and mined by the russians, but it was firstly technologically damaged, that is , normal regulatory work is not carried out there, and the fact that the russians voluntarily they will convey, it is so, well, i don’t know, it’s probably more likely that musk will fly to mars, that is, i believe in it, i don’t believe in it exist, in the existing situation, then... that 's why, well, the fact that we have a shortage of electricity is absolutely normal, well, it's normal, if the predicted situation, if you look at the capacity that we have stored, i estimate it somewhere in of the order of 11, 12, 12.5 tons out of 18,

which we passed last year, that is , we have a deficit of some order, if, if we also add 1.7 imports here, then we have some how much. of the order of 4-5 gw, and it cannot be blocked by anything, if we consider that a significant part of our consumption is critical infrastructure, these are our utility companies, water supply, hospitals, some institutions that need to be turned off, well, factories that work, factories that work for the defense industry, this is our front line, where in fact our troops need to be supplied with electricity, that is , these are the segments that it is impossible to turn off, then in practice this means a deficit of almost... up to half in the sector called household consumers, so what is turned off today are the streets of the city, well , after all, i also have light at home in kyiv was 4 hours a day, that is, well, that is, that is , this is the objective reality that we face, but i would not talk about those

things that we are not in, that we do not influence, i would talk about those things that we can influence and what we can do at the level of our there our. tyres, houses, cities, i would talk about such things, because discussing things that we have no influence on, in principle, does not make much sense, i would draw attention to the fact that our, well, the problem of the destruction of our maneuvering energy, thermal energy and hydropower, it overlaps with the general trend that exists in the world, in europe, for the development of renewable energy sources, and the development of solar systems, the development of... storage systems, the cost of solar panels has fallen many times over the last decade, the cost of batteries over the last 15 years soon decreased by 10 times, i.e. if we used to balance our networks with thermal stations, now there is europe, the world is moving

in leaps and bounds to a situation in which the balancing of the network will be carried out at the level of apartments, i.e. where you have in each the apartment will have a small battery with a size of 7 to 10 kv there. and which will work with a smart inverter, which will buy electricity at times when it is cheap, which will understand when, when electricity on the market is cheap, when it is expensive, will accumulate it and give it to you in the apartment when you need it. as far as it is possible in our realities in ukraine, it is not that it is possible, it is absolutely, i am just convinced that this is our near future, that is, we need to have a conversation about how much a set of such equipment costs for an apartment, we need to have a conversation about the fact that... all architectural new solutions of new, new construction should include the technological possibility and the provision of where it should be located, that is , electricity storage will be located in every household, as well as in we now have a washing machine, because just as we have a refrigerator there, that is, we will have an

energy storage, this is a pan-european trend, and we simply have the opportunity , the situation just pushes us in the shoulders to skip this stage, these are additional costs, yes it is will... cost $3-$35,400 per apartment there, these are the costs that are expected, but this is the only thing that can give us uninterrupted supply in the near term, that is , one way or the other, the situation is that where we we can accumulate electricity from solar panels on the roof, this is where we can accumulate in peak moments when electricity is cheap or at all with a negative cost, and this and this will happen in such situations more and more often. therefore, i would say yes to ukrainian consumers that the fact that you did not pay extra for electricity all the past years, and you did not pay extra for it for decades, because the tariff there is hryvnia 40, the tariff is 2.60, it did not cover the cost of electricity at all, that is, there was only

the cost of delivery, so you think that you deposited money in the bank and now you it is necessary to pay for a new energy supply system in one gulp, i know that it is i who receive just a million and a million haterskyi, i know that they are not there, but you ate them, that is , again, you can. no one said that it should be done, although experts said that it is not necessary to install electric heating, no it is necessary to install such systems that put people in a very risky situation. mr. svyatoslav, i'm sorry, you will agree, because we have a people's deputy, who uses the phone from the street and simply tells our guest editors that the phone can simply hang up, there is also no light. serhiy nagornyak, people's deputy of ukraine, servant of the people, member of the verkhovna rada committee on energy and housing and communal affairs, what steps is the government planning now so that, well, we now understand that is 100% to be expected. electricity and connecting to it during the winter is quite difficult, and now there are already talks about

having at least a certain number of hours, so that there is water supply, this is also important, and what are the forecasts in the end, so good evening, well, look at my in the opinion of the forecasts, god forbid, if we had at least 12 hours of light there on average, even in winter, this would be a good result, because the colleague in front of me also... about the fact that we really have a large number of gigawatts, well, it's no secret they are there, yes, 9 gw is out of order, some of it will be restored in time, but most of these capacities will not be restored until winter, unfortunately, this is not because our power engineers do not want to do it, but because it it is physically impossible to do what the government is doing, well, the government is primarily attracting international aid today. in the form of cogeneration plants, in the form of gas turbines, gas piston plants,

today every city will be able to get such plants in order to quickly install them, but we understand that even with a gas turbine or a gas piston plant, it is not so fast to connect it, to get all the relevant permits, relatively speaking, in order to connect this plant, because technical solutions are needed. on hands and so on, so we should all prepare as soon as possible for the most difficult winter in the history of independent ukraine, it will really be difficult, and there are no easy solutions for anyone, and no matter who says that there are some solutions and reassures, lulls and told people about warm baths, indeed , winter will be difficult, but we must all be... prepared as much as possible, each city separately, each family separately, in order

to pass this difficult winter ahead. mr. serhiy, what can we really do to help people, because there are definitely sections of the population that are the most vulnerable, for whom it will be very difficult, whether people's deputies consider it or talk about it in the cabinet of ministers, maybe not so publicly, we don't know about it we hear, but perhaps some compensations should be provided for use or purchase. certain alternative energy sources, maybe some specific financial assistance, or should it be decided locally by regional authorities, what are your thoughts on this? well, there are already initiatives of some municipalities, those that return part of the funds spent on the purchase of generators or osb or communal enterprises or management organizations. those who manage the houses, there they return 70-80% of

the purchase, to private households, i think that at the moment i have not heard of such an initiative, and it is precisely in private households, it seems to me that there will still be a situation more or less, it is easier pass than in big cities, because the biggest problem will be in big cities, and the electricity that will be in the system, god forbid that it... be, it will first of all be directed to critical infrastructure, to support precisely critical infrastructure in order not to freeze our cities, and this is the number one task, and there is already a surplus, the one that will remain of electricity, it will be relatively evenly distributed among the population, because it is too difficult to evenly distribute it over, because the network was built this way a long time ago , and ee tim... those houses, for example, which are connected there to critical infrastructure, most likely they will remain there with light,

and even those houses which are not connected, they will turn off more often, so we all have to prepare, and the local authorities, and regional, and i spoke today about the fact that we will put an initiative before the government so that the government resumes the work of the anti-crisis energy headquarters under the chairmanship of the prime minister, so that city... or about the problems that arise during the implementation of certain initiatives, in order for us to be able to quickly make appropriate decisions in regular... mode. mr. pavlyuk, do you have a question? may i take this opportunity , just to prepare for winter, i want to draw attention to the fact that our national regulator nkrkp does not have seven members of three, that is , in fact, today the ability to make any emergency decisions is critically limited in it, and i would ask for absolutely

emergency intervention into the situation on the part of the committee in order to simply show up the commission worked normally. and in order for her to be able to make a decision normally, i would like to draw your attention to the fact that lviv vodokanal, which should be preparing for the disgraceful season, buy diesel engines, buy diesel as such, prepare spare parts, there is no banal reason to do this, because for the third year , the national commission has not increased the tariff for the population, that is, electricity has increased, salaries have increased, but roughly speaking, we now have a situation where the city enterprise, which determines the life of the city, has 400 million planned debt, because there is nothing to cover it. and this is planned debt, and the commission does not do its work, and there is no one to talk to, that is why i am turning to you, simply within the limits, as i do not know, of deputy brainstorming of the national independent regulator, which , after a call from the office of the president, does not what he has to do is to sort it out somehow, because we are simply putting large cities, licensees in a completely dependent

situation and exposing residents, that is , millions of people, to the fact that their infrastructure is ready for ... disgraceful season will not be, and it is simply planned, predicted. mr. svyatoslav, i will answer you, well, not so long ago, we have a new head of the independent regulator, mr. valery, and i hope that new members of the regulator will be elected as soon as possible, who will join the work of the regulator, and they will be able to, those questions, about which you announced them, just now, the people's deputy of ukraine, the servant of the people, a member of the verkhovna rada committee on energy and housing and communal services. oleg synyutka, your position, your opinion, how about us, well, you see, here is such a story that we are now we hear that in the best case there will be

electricity 12 hours a day, and in principle we need to look for options, how not to live in big cities and a lot. houses in the first place, to what extent, you know, well, the government can’t be so irresponsible, well, what kind of government position is it that the winter will be hard, people save yourself as much as you can, well, here’s the first question, they increased the tariff from 2.64 to 4.32, very difficult math to multiply the consumption and get billions, which are additional payments. population due to tariff increases, you at least once heard where these billions will go? but we use less, then mathematics, but it is not millions, it is not tens of millions, it is billions, and no public information, no non-public information, including

at the meetings of the parliament, at the hour of questions to the government, where will these huge funds go , and i will tell you where these... funds will go, i think that chinusha is already sitting and plans to embezzle them, and why do i think so, because i have before my eyes the history of the 24th year, how much money was allocated for the alleged energy protection, where such a bright principle, an example is the trypilskaya tets, millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions of billions, what happened to the trypilskaya tets, the attack of the enemy is simply that . i have a question: who was responsible for this? well, someone approved the plan, someone agreed to spend the money, that is, the brains are to blame? yes, the brains are 100% to blame, but i would like that specific person who is involved in the embezzlement of funds to answer, and when the question of creating a temporary special commission is raised in the parliament, in order to say,

see, eventually bring to responsibility of those involved. to the distribution of money, the authorities simply block it all, by blocking the tribune for the first time during the period of full-scale aggression, we forced the authorities to create a tsk on fortifications, which started the first meeting, information that 30 criminal cases for 20 billion embezzlement, so friends, let's not be shy , count and see and punish those who stole money. the second question, well, after all... the energy industry was not affected yesterday and not the day before yesterday, the last time the energy industry was affected was not a week or several weeks ago. show me please tell me the action plan of the government on... the reputation of energy, there is such a thing, i don't know anything about it, i know that the united states has allocated a billion dollars, i know that france has allocated 650 million euros, i i know

that the european union allocated 300 million euros for the restoration of the energy sector, please tell me why the government will not publicly or privately demonstrate how it will get out of this situation, but do you know what the fantastic government has come up with? in fact, a strategically correct idea in quotes, to rebuild the power units of the khmelnytskyi nuclear power plant, how many will go to the reconstruction of the khmelnytskyi nuclear power plant units? 4-5 years at least? friends, it is not possible to rebuild the units of the khmelnytskyi nuclear power plant as you wish, take a russian unit in bulgaria, transport it and install it in khmelnytskyi in ukraine and with all the consequences that flow from this. that is, well, the fact that the winter will be difficult, for this you do not need people's deputies, members of the government, heads of state, this is already clear, it is a matter of

the authorities' responsibility to do everything to prepare for this winter as best as possible. where money? tell me, please, the money taken from local communities, at the expense of which these local communities will prepare. in the end, we came up with an initiative, well, at the state level of bezla. let's then see what we can do at each, at the level of each community? indeed, the program for compensation of energy sources, it is very important, how will the feces be pumped out, how will the water be supplied, how will the elevators run, where there are high-rise buildings, how will the school, hospital work, where the communities are of the rural type, this is where everyone should the head of the community to give an answer for his... people, the authorities must return the money they robbed the communities and took it to an unknown place. mr. svyatoslav, one more word for you, i would like to ask the experts here, they say

that the worst scenario is the worst, but if you still talk, you know, you often have to look fear in the eyes, if the worst scenario is what will happen to us during the autumn and winter ? worst case scenario, i.e. the scenario where we don't have 5 to 12. one uh a day out of power, i'd consider that an optimistic scenario for this winter, huh, and so on to it you have to prepare accordingly. obviously, such and such a supply will be for households, for communal enterprises, for protected enterprises, it should be more equal, let's say this, in an optimistic scenario, that is, we will have heat, well, there will be electricity for teplokumanenergo, we may have electricity then and will be there for vodka. but it may not be, that is, if our crazy neighbors decide to knock down the output transformers of nuclear plants, which are the basis of our energy system in the current

situation, then we may not have energy in general, that is, we will have a small power plant there at the level of city thermal power stations, which can produce some tens of megawatts, maybe hundreds of megawatts instead of gigawatts, which are needed for the normal operation of the system, we may have a situation in which such damage occurs. can drag out the replacement of the original equipment of such stations for a period of up to a month, if it is possible to restore it, if reserves are formed, european partners will now accumulate and be able to supply us with this equipment, and this scenario is also absolutely one for which you have to program yourself, it it is necessary to have an answer to it, what will we do if we do not have electricity for a month, and that is, whether our utility companies have heat and heat supply there. supply, do they have a supply of generators, fuel, people, cables, that is, all oil, that is, which must be regularly serviced, all the machines that

are there, well, distributed gas generation, they are not machines of basic supply, they are reserve supply machines, these generators can't run 24/7 , they have a certain cycle there 8 hours, 12, 16 hours, after which they must be stopped for... some small work with them or let them cool down, and therefore a full recovery of the supply is possible when the system is fully operational, it is not not working, but in order to we could even have these reserve diesels, they could work, well, you have to understand that the cost of electricity for businesses there is within uah 7-9, that is, on the market with delivery, the cost of electricity from diesels starts somewhere from uah 20 and up , that is, this diesel must be bought at... this is logistics, this is tons of solar energy per day, you understand, this is a completely different situation, this is a huge logistical and financial burden for the city, and if this money is not included in the tariff, then this is... the maximum

where the money can come from, it will be allocated by the city council from one source to another programs of the city and will provide for the purchase of these things, but for us today the government is not the national commission, it does not communicate that we give you the opportunity to prepare, it does not give you the opportunity to prepare with these tariffs, but i want to emphasize that , what cities with centralized heat supply systems are in a better situation. the cities that have gone completely to electric heating, they are completely dependent on electricity practically, and their fate can be very sad on this earth, let's hope that than those cities that do not have it, because espresso, about nuclear power plants, we have to we will say goodbye to the viewers expresso and continue on youtube, our regulation 2255

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