whose life was cut short by russian aggression. let's bow our heads before them. let's observe a moment of silence in memory of the ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.

biden and trump competed in krasnomovka during the first debate before the us presidential elections, which will be held in november. zmi has already released data on who americans consider the winners of the debate. one of the most pressing issues of the debate is expected to be the topic of the war in ukraine, so... what can these debates change, what impact will they have on the situation in ukraine. greetings, this is svoboda ranok, my name is oleg galiv, and we are about to begin. as always, i encourage you to join the comments in the chat under the broadcast, write your thoughts and impressions of what you saw and heard, as well as suggest topics that can become the topics of our broadcast. well, in the united states tonight, kyiv time, there was a debate between the candidates for the presidential elections to be held in november. current us president joe biden and ex-president donald trump

exchanged emotional statements, some of them also concerned ukraine. so, for example, trump said that ukraine will not win the war against russia. it was a quote and he emphasized that allegedly during his presidency, putin did not take land, including biden to blame for the occupation of ukrainian cities. ukraine will not win this war. they are running out of people, they are running out of soldiers. they lost so many people, they lost these great cities with golden millennia. domes, and all because of him and the stupid decisions he approved. russia would never attack if i were president, russia took a lot of land for obama, for biden, but not under me. putin knew that he could not play with me. at the same time, trump said that the conditions of putin's russian presidency, regarding the end of the war in ukraine, are unacceptable and used against biden the thesis that the us allocates too much money to help ukraine. but the current president. america's joe

biden argued that putin is a war criminal who, if not stopped, will go further, and the money that the united states allocated to help ukraine actually remains in the united states states, and weapons manufactured in this country go to ukraine. all the money we transfer to ukraine is the weapons we produce here. we use this money, and ukraine receives only weapons. some observers have already called this debate a failure, and for both candidates. they say that trump was unprepared and, as usual, abused emotions, statements and accusations, and biden looked weak, these are also quotes from the headlines, or the same conclusions were drawn by our colleagues from the voice of america, who followed the course of these debates and hosted a special broadcast, now we will ask them from washington voice of america correspondent ostap yarysh, i am already in touch with us. ostape, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, so what are the impressions, what are the impressions of the american viewers and journalists from these debates, and how do you personally feel? regulate the american voters, what

actually influenced these debates and what to expect from them? are really reacting violently, right now all the american media is discussing this debate, discussing what they've heard and what they 've seen from both candidates, i think very a professor of political science at princelen university successfully summed up this event, he said that if you judge by energy, then donald trump won, if you judge by facts, then joe biden won, i explain what it is about, observers pay attention to that. that indeed biden tried to emphasize the facts, tried to present some positive or strong aspects of his administration, emphasize the achievements and criticize trump for his actions, however observers say, and many journalists say this, including that he noticeably lacked energy on the debate stage, he spoke quietly, he paused, he coughed in places, and in places it was unclear what words he was saying, and it actually made a rather disturbing impression on the ... the democrats themselves, we saw that in

their reactions in many, many venues , from many pundits who are usually pro-biden and pro-democrat, they had these rather pro... disturbing thoughts and concerns that biden has not performed well and failed to do the primary task of convincing voters that despite your age he can continue working for another four years. most observers agree that biden did not complete this task. as for donald trump, the audience is paying attention to the fact that despite the false statements that came from him despite the distortion or manipulation, donald trump looked livelier, brighter and ... more energetic on stage, and maybe, from the point of view of the voter, his performance was good for them more convincing, or at least more lively. in fact, right now, if you look at the headlines that are coming out in the press, let's go, on cnn, one of the anchors, john king

said that while democrats turned on the debate with excitement, they ended watching it in panic. the new york times writes that people from biden's circle are now saying that it was. very bad, and the washington post, it is difficult to imagine that after this the democrats will want another debate in the administration or in the biden team, they will separate, the president himself said after the event that he thought that aa he demonstrated and performed well and that it was difficult to argue with a brahun, as he called donald trump, kamalagari from the vice president, speaking on cnn as well rejected all accusations and, in fact, quite sharp questions from journalists about how she can comment now. president biden's speech, she said that actions speak louder than words, and she sees a president meeting with lawmakers every day, she sees a president traveling the world with allies, she sees a president working to lower prices, and that far more important to her than

perhaps any mistakes biden made on stage today is whether it convinces americans it is difficult to say here, again we will wait for the polls, and the majority of american voters. they actually already have a pretty clear awareness and vision or attitude towards joe biden or donald trump, but we remember that sometimes a small number of actually american voters in a few key states is enough to determine the course of the vote and ultimately the winners of the presidential election , it was the case last cycle of 2020, it was the case before that, so there's really a lot of concern in the democratic party right now, or a part of it. these after these debates will not change their minds or lose their enthusiasm to vote for joe biden. in fact, even this is sounding cautious on some channels, on some platforms, but i 've heard several times this evening from people who are usually pro

-biden or pro-democrats asking if the democratic party should think about choosing another candidate in these elections, even such thoughts were heard today. certainly, at the moment these are words, these are emotions, after these debates, there are a lot of these emotions, impressions as well a lot, it is important now to follow the polls, the social opinion polls in the coming weeks, how much it will change, whether the dynamics will change, especially in key states, there are still four months until the election, it will be in november, there will be a lot of events until then, we are waiting , while donald trump chooses his vice-presidential candidate, we are waiting for the congresses of the republican-democratic party, and therefore... we will see, but what can be said, surely this debate was the most important event of the presidential campaign in the us so far, the 2024 campaign, and they mark a new phase, perhaps this election, a phase that is quite turbulent and unsettled. ostap,

i will briefly ask, but the topic of the war in ukraine for these two candidates during these debates, it was one of the key ones, was their discussion focused more on internal problems. and not mostly on external ones. debates always focus on those issues that concern americans first of all, and these are internal issues, they talked about the economy, about abortion, about crime, about migration, but if you look at the foreign policy bloc, both candidates paid much more attention to ukraine, they talked much less about the war between israel and hamas, and spent much more time discussing russia's war against ukraine. we heard these comments before on your broadcast. what trump said, what biden said, trump has emphasized several times that if he were president, this war would not exist, he said again that he can end this war very quickly, that even before he enters the white house, joe biden on the contrary reminded critical statements of trump regarding nato, and

said that trump, on the contrary, with his thoughts or words invites putin to go further and attack other european countries to go beyond the borders of ukraine, so there was really quite a lot here ... we heard critical remarks from both candidates, but again, maybe someone was surprised, but ukraine was present in the external political bloc much more than the israelis. thank you very much, ostap, for turning on, ostap yarysh, voice of america correspondent, live from washington about the actual results and results previous debates between the current president of the united states and one of the candidates, who is actually from the republican party, donald trump. well, the illustrious us president joe biden and former president donald trump will meet twice in this presidential debate campaign. the next round will take place on september 10, less than two months before the election. every four years. the debates between the candidates attract large audiences, for example, the debate between hillary clinton and donald trump

was watched by more than 222 million viewers, analysts calculated at the time, my colleague bohdan lugunov understood all the intricacies of the american presidential debates, see details in his material. spectators like to watch debates between candidates, millions of people are glued to tv screens, and now to streams. for this, for example, they gather even in bars to listen. and discuss. the absolute record of views was collected by hilary clinton and donald trump in 2016 in one of the rounds of discussions of plans for the post of president. they were viewed by more than 84 million people. she took second place the jimmy carter-ronald reagan debate in 1980 had nearly 81 million viewers for one round, third behind the 2020 donald trump-joe biden debate. they, according to surveys and experts' opinions, were the most chaotic and... caused negative emotions in the audience. vote now, make sure you are truly informed. he doesn't

want to answer questions. why don't you answer this question? do you want to appoint many new supreme court judges? radical leftists? zelenymilson media research debates are mainly interested in people of an older age, but blunders and memes that are circulated in the media and social networks are also of interest to a younger audience. in general, researchers note. that tv debate ratings go up and down, and the debate process itself has changed quite a bit since 1858, when abraham lincoln and stephen douglas debated for the first time, but not on television. this year's debate is special because both candidates aren't even candidates yet. republicans officially nominate their candidates for president and vice president in mid- july at the national convention republican party, and the democrats will do it. in the second half of august, and this is unusual, because previously the debates were held in september or october, but this year neither trump nor

biden agreed to such an order. this is an unusual debate, we have a president debating a former president. this has never happened in the history of presidential debates, so the public is better informed about both candidates as individuals, knows more about their temperament, habits of thought. and character, but this year, because of the age of both there is a need, even if you think you know a lot about both candidates, to be able to tell whether they are mentally sharp enough and mentally stable enough to be the president of the united states, another non-standard, this year the debates are actually taken care of by news organizations, previously the special commission on presidential debates in the united states was always engaged in conducting, it set the rules in 2020, for example... had an opponent's microphone cut off while one of the speakers was speaking, all because

donald trump interrupted joe biden 71 times. by the way, the audience in the studio also often shouted comments, so this year they will be absent. practicing eloquence is one of the main tasks of debate. experts believe that appearance, confident voice, and charisma have a decisive influence on the viewer, but the voters will make the final decision during the voting. and, as practice shows, the effect of tv debates is useful, but not decisive. the pew research center has conducted post-election polls for several decades. in most cases, six out of ten or more voters said that the debate was very, or to a certain extent, useful for deciding which candidate to vote for. in addition, the experience of public speaking plays a big role. i believe. that political debates are about two things, they're about messages and moments, so it's important

to consistently get your messages across throughout the debate, but it's also worth creating a few flashpoints, so to speak, that will grab the attention of the press and give you a competitive advantage. the 2024 debates are the first in their format, they will not only be held by separate tv channels, but also taking place against the background of serious political events, among them the nato summit in washington, which should give ukraine an answer about its future in the alliance. the topic of the war in ukraine, observers assume, will be one of those that will be raised by politicians. we continue the topic of the debate between the candidate. american presidents , yaroslav duydko, an international expert and diplomat, joins our broadcast. congratulations. my greetings to you and our viewers. thank you, mr. yaroslav, for joining. what impressions did you have after what you saw and heard, what main messages do you think biden and trump sent to the american audience and the world in fact. here you can evaluate

these debates from two points of view, from the point of view of pr and presentation and form, and from the point of view of content. from a pr point of view, one of the people who prepared biden for this debate, his pr guy, he said that you can lose this kind of debate at any moment, but let's say you can win it in the first 30 minutes, from my point of view sight, mr. biden, unfortunately, he did not sound convincing, he said after that he had a sore throat, he had a muffled... his voice, his messages to the american people , he usually spoke very somewhat qualitatively in essence, at the same time, mr. trump, he is like a former actor, like a showman, he felt very confident, behaved very rudely , as

they say, those who have already managed to calculate what he said. and let's say that the representatives and correspondents of the new york times have already managed to calculate that he just flat-out laughed 26 times. as for the form, as for the content, of course, questions of internal politics such as the economic situation, the issue of abortion, on which trump just had to defend. these issues, of course, related to foreign policy, too, they were very well covered, and the candidates accused each other of the fact that things were better during his term of office, and worse during the term of his predecessor. i think that you and i

will be interested to hear about how the american economy is developing. indeed , mr. biden has something to brag about and that is something that mr. trump and his supporters should think about, and the foreign policy of us and you is of interest primarily because, er, it is about whether aid to ukraine will continue after one or another candidate takes the seats in the white house, starting from january next year, after these... elections, the topic of ukraine was raised twice , one in the context of russian aggression, when trump was asked, the first time he did not answer, but the second time he still had to answer the question that the cnn correspondent asked him, whether he takes seriously the proposals,

the so-called peace proposals of putin what he expressed on june 14 in a speech. in the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation, trump said that no , he does not take this proposal seriously, and says that he has his own plans, without revealing details, about how to end the russian war in ukraine, he repeated again, that he is going to finish it in 24 hours, and how to do it, we, we did not hear how he will do it, on the other hand. side another question that he put the blame on mr. biden, said that as if vice president biden in 2016 he caused the fact that he was fired the general prosecutor of shokin at the time, who was dissatisfied with the american and other western partners, he

accused that biden demanded the release of mr. shokin. and what could have caused the $1 billion aid to ukraine to be delayed. and so on. here on many aspects it was possible to just criticize each other, let's say that, but still, if they talked about ukraine as a very important foreign policy issue, both candidates, it means that it remains in the focus of american politics, yes or otherwise and no matter who it is, no matter what the administration of the white house is, the issue of ukraine. still remains one of the priorities, right? uh, that's for sure, because uh, other issues that concern international politics are, let's say, the situation in... in the gaza strip, the terrorist acts of hamas against israel, another problem that may arise in the far east is the possible aggression of china against

taiwan in terms of absorbing this island, but for the united states of america, the whole problem that arose in ukraine with the full-scale aggression of the russian federation against our state, it remains very relevant. all the more so because we see how military and economic aid to ukraine has been delayed for half a year, because the house of representatives, the lower house of the american congress, could not resolve this issue, and it was submitted by one of the candidates, that is, former president trump. in the meantime, the mind, how to say, is the smart approach and and... the right approach, as speaker mike johnson said about it won, then ukraine received this aid in april, it

will just continue, even if trump will come to power and somehow want to review this assistance, i still have one short question for you, unfortunately, the air time is not so long that we could talk with you longer, but the issue is very important, the western press writes that biden's speech ... are allegedly dissatisfied even in the democratic party, what this can entail and whether it can result in the conditional re-election of another candidate, and for example there in the next debates, which should take place already in september, we will see a completely different composition of candidates for the main seat in the united states. that's an interesting question, because this debate really started very early on, and the fact is that president biden, the current... president, he won 50 primaries, that is , primary elections in all 50 states, and now he's actually, for him

delegates to the convention must vote, and the convention will take place, as you already said in your material, sometime in august of this year, that is, if biden himself does not withdraw his candidacy before the convention, then the delegates must vote for him, so this... an interesting situation is developing, if you start nominating another candidate now, well , there is actually no time to promote him, because there are four months and one week left until the presidential elections are actually held, so an interesting situation is developing, probably now think the best minds in the democratic party, because according to the audience estimates, the first... two two out of three americans who watched the election, this, excuse me, the debate, they said that they had trump win, but there's still a lot of time

left actually before the election, not the debate will be decisive, although they will also influence, and what will happen in these four months. i thank you for joining, and by the way, viewers under our broadcast in the comments note not only your professionalism, but also pay attention to your appearance. the background that is behind you is interesting, it is original, for the audience they also mean, thank you very much, mr. yaroslav, for joining and analyzing the actual debate, which is now interesting to everyone and absolutely all of ukraine is there, not only ukraine, the united states and the world is watching how these debates went, yaroslav vidko, international expert, diplomat, guest of our broadcast. any decision on negotiations must be approved by president zelenskyi and ukraine, this is how the reuters agency reacted to the publication even before the start of the debate by trump's advisers. plan to end the war in ukraine, us national security council strategic communications coordinator, john kirby. unlike some, president biden believes that any

decision on negotiations, frankly, should be approved by president zelensky and ukraine. we we are not going to force ukraine to give up part of its territory, because we understand that if we allow putin to conquer ukraine and subjugate its people, any of its people, the consequences will be serious. he is a dictator all over the world. would be encouraged and we believe that the world would become a much more dangerous place. he noted that the administration of the current us president joe biden adheres to the principle of nothing about ukraine without ukraine. john kirby added that if president zelensky is ready to sit down at the negotiating table, he should do so this is from a position of strength, and the white house is doing everything to make sure that ukraine will have everything it needs to do this. according to this plan, if donald trump is re-elected, he will allegedly provide additional military aid to ukraine, only if kyiv agrees. for negotiations with moscow, if russia refuses to negotiate, then in this case american aid to ukraine will increase. during the peace negotiations, they say, a cease- fire regime will be established based on warnings and negotiations. lines

of combat. in response to this, the kremlin declared that any peace plan proposed by a possible incoming trump administration must reflect the reality on the ground, but president putin is said to remain open to negotiations. oleksandr mareshko, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the committee on foreign policy and interparliamentary cooperation, joins our broadcast. good morning. good morning. mr. alexander, and yet we also focus our attention on the debate that ended in the united states, the first phase of that debate. because there will be another y september, send which of the politicians were closer to you, as a ukrainian parliamentarian, in matters of ukraine? well, the fact is that we know what president biden's policy is today, and we can predict what it will be in the future if he is re-elected for a new presidential term. as for trump, even though he has experience, he was president, but we don't know, so let's

leave it at that. certain unknown, and to draw some conclusions on the basis of statements that are being heard now during a very sharp political struggle for the presidential chair, it seems to me, well, a little premature, so it is difficult to say here whose program, whose policy will be more favorable for ukraine. well, at the same time, i want to emphasize that we are very grateful to president biden, who has shown himself to be a true leader. of the free world since the beginning of full-scale aggression against ukraine, that is , we appreciate it very much, at the same time we appreciate the bipartisan support and hope that no matter who wins, the aid to ukraine will continue. so, did you hear threatening messages for yourself in trump's words or biden for ukraine and its future, because there trump openly spoke about the fact that he believes that he will be able to end this war, they say even before re-election, even by the

time when he gets to the white house, biden continues to talk about the fact that there is no word about ukraine without ukraine, have you heard threatening messages from these politicians? well, if we take the rhetoric, then i did not hear any specific threat, well, at the very beginning it is worth noting that the thesis of biden, the biden administration, nothing about ukraine without ukraine is a very correct position, i hope that its will follow if, for example, trump becomes president. at the same time, i heard a very important thing for ukraine from the mouth of presidential candidate trump regarding the fact that putin's plan is not acceptable for him, that is , the occupation of parts of the territory of ukraine by russia is not acceptable for him, and in general, this, i think, is very important and positive, a positive signal. one more question: trump called president zelensky, if

this is correct... but i quote again: the biggest seller, it was actually about the money that the united states allocated to support ukraine. so in that case, what would you say to trump if he said it conditionally in your presence? well, here you have to take into account certain specifics of trump's mentality. well, the fact is that trump, he is, in his essence, i think, he is such a businessman, and he looks at issues of geopolitics, issues of foreign policy, through the lens of, you know, such, well, jargon, even a businessman. that is, one must take into account this fact of his biography, a psychological pact. the thing is, well, we'll see if he will become the president, what will be his politics in reality. that is, we just have to wait and see how the elections in the united states end. experts and ukraine are talking about this, and it is obvious. for ukraine , american support has been one of the key since the large-scale invasion, and the united states is a key ally of ukraine, helping and supporting it. are

the ukrainian authorities considering today? a plan in case, for example, in the white house there is a change of leadership and opinion, the position of the white house, on how to end this war, will go against the way ukraine sees it, accordingly, this aid can either decrease or stop altogether, is there an option and thoughts on how to act in this case, well, regarding such a specific plan, plan would, conditionally speaking, i i don't have such information, maybe it exists, but we see that what is happening is that, for example, nato is taking on... more commitments now, now, for example, european politicians, the european union, well, it was signed literally yesterday , signed a security agreement with the european union, i.e this indicates that europe is increasingly taking over issues related to support and assistance to ukraine, that is , it may be considered as such a plan b, but the fact is that the united states -