the situation with russia, and i, i did not hear the answers to these questions, maybe it will be at the moment when there will be a formal debate, maybe i did not hear and did not perceive what biden and trump said in the same way, that is, they have different positions on what should be done with russia, well , unfortunately, we won't hear that at the debate, because you see, i said that this debate is completely different than... between those candidates who are there for the first time applied for the presidency, this is completely different, there is a lot of personal, and a lot of if honestly, lies, there are all kinds of inaccurate data, to put it mildly, so that the accusations are mutual, there are a lot of such statements, that is, what will bring the third world closer, well, i think, in general, the third world, at least in cyberspace, it is already going, already it is no longer close, it is already developing, so it is possible that it is being talked about... by the way, there was little talk about it,

the position of the united states in particular, yes, yes, there were some general phrases that it should be stopped, but none about the mechanisms, well, we don't know yet, they are known to joseph biden, that's why that he is currently the current president, and therefore we may or may not like the pace and strategy of such de-escalation, or supervision of escalation, but nevertheless it is now holding ukraine's aid. and partnering with the grand coalition of the country, so it's a difficult, tiring path, but at least it's clear, and donald trump, frankly , well, you don't know what the team is, and we know how he makes decisions, he can make a single decision, he can rely on the advice of a person he trusts, and this decision can be very apt. or very

false, i think that he will have this time, if he is president and the senate is for the republicans, he will have the opportunity to appoint the people he wants, and it is not known whether it is better, i know who advises him now, including, including on issues of migration, security, well, i'm not worried about donald trump anymore, i'm worried about the people around me, because i 've dealt with these people, and i know... how they can or block something , or help, and it was in my case or in our case then, it was half the white house for us, half against, from the staff, so it was funny, of course, but it's funny at work, because there were situations when just energy and confidence allowed to solve the problem, so you can work with any option, there is no plan, well, it is obviously not in

donald trump, but this is the kind of leader who can make bold decisions, they, i say again, they can be wrong, but he has the ability to make decisive decisions alone, mr. valery, but all day long i read comments on social networks and in the network about what actually from... on these debates, and many commentators pay attention to or write about the age of biden and about the age of trump, biden is 81, trump is 78, and say, well , don’t americans have younger presidential candidates who could do a lot of useful things there, given this age gap , which they have there, how do the americans perceive it? the fact that their leaders, their

presidents, they are already at such a respectable age, isn't that important for american politics and not so principled, and accordingly for the voters, god grant us such a system as the american one at all her problems, and if i am not delighted that we have no-names who have not undergone any work. was a photographer and suddenly pops up, solves our issue of national security, and if i don’t like the fact that we have people who worked in show business pop up, and then suddenly they didn’t pass anything, no confidence of the voters, once in a situational moment they pop up and become there in high positions, and then we sort it out, he is now running after them, then one is hiding somewhere, then he left, and then those agents were there at all, i i like the american system better, it is not... the channel, but it goes through party

selection, it goes through the selection of funding by voters, that is, it is not just like that, in order for these candidates to stand in such... positions, they had to give money, and by the way , does everyone donate to the company, yes, it is limited to a certain amount for voters and for legal entities, that is, it is not that much money, if they simply supported 10-15 large businesses, then this is one story, such are supported by a huge amount of business and both, that is, it is a selection that has been built up for decades and the fact that they, well , i will say this, there may be a moment here, well, there is a moment, i will say so, i do not want to interfere in their elections, but i, for some reason i felt that the next president of the united states would be a woman, well, for some reason i had this

feeling, i think they somehow missed, well, somehow , they are not catching up with such a historical development now. it is the americans who do not keep up with him, this seems to be the case, and with regard to the attitude towards people who are wise, first of all, age is physical, in compared to the ukrainian one, minus 12 years, this is a consequence of medicine, a consequence of the quality of life, products, water, i.e. something like that, well, of course, it is hard work for politicians, but nevertheless, it has an impact... on everyone, so if various parishes, thank you, mr. valery, for your answer, i will remind our viewers that we are working live, we have valery chaly, a politician and diplomat live on the air, and we are conducting a survey during our broadcast, we ask you the following, do you believe that

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and now we are already on the threshold of negotiations with the european union and with us also moldova, does this mean that the decision. of the european union on the beginning of changes with ukraine and with moldova, this is actually the destruction of all geopolitical plans and intentions of putin, to turn ukraine and moldova into a part of some pseudo country or a new country like the soviet union, well , european politicians clearly made it clear to putin that his plans for humanitarian... for these countries, the european union will already be an invitation to join the north atlantic alliance, this is one of the stepping stones to nato. many

questions. first of all, thank you for mentioning that the process of european integration did not start with the submission of an application, which is already a formal one to receive. and that it was announced from all the official platforms that in two years we have passed everything here, well done, we submitted an application and became candidates, and we have already opened negotiations, this process has been going on for many years, i will tell you that i am involved, only maybe some interesting moments, i remember, we prepared it, it seems in 1990 , probably for the sixth year, such a report, in general, what are the copenhagen criteria, the specifics of achieving these goals, and handed it over to the then president, that is, it was still then, well, a lot , people did not know about this path, although we have already defined

the european future in essence, well, in essence, our first deputies even and then the perception of the constitution, with which i congratulate you today ee... just the anniversary of the ukrainian constitution, they determined this path. next, i want to note that there were stages of integration. in fact, there is one point that no one considers. do you think we should, i say this to those who declare that european integration began just yesterday, that is, during the term of the current government, nothing like that, do you think that free trade zones do not go through stages, first, the association agreement, by the way, the most interesting thing, i will say, we are now within the framework of the association agreement, and we will be for a long time to meet all requirements, including the rule of law, including the democrats. freedom of the media, the judicial system, fair criminal decisions, and

no one has canceled this, so please forget the euphoria, because it will be a difficult process, yes, it is very cool that it is a political step, the merit of the students in 2014, who came to the maidan for european integration, the merit of the civil society of ukraine, which is not it was as depressed as it is now, and then there was pressure, even abroad, they traveled, thousands... for this decision, that is, and today our authorities have forgotten about it, we do not have this interaction at all, i am involved in the fact that i was as the head of the public expert council under the committee of ukraine, the european union, and the cabinet of ministers listened to us, invited representatives of non-governmental institutions to meetings, european issues were raised in accordance with the legislation in the parliament, parliamentary and committee hearings were held, and that's how we moved. that is, that's why it all started a long time ago, and now we are entering

only a certain stage, and now regarding your question, is this stage the final answer to putin, at each stage of our integration, and i said that it began with the free trade area, economic integration, then the agreement about the association, russia put sticks in the wheels and tried very hard to counteract this, it happened. this is still the case in principle, so there will be further stages as well, you will see, they will try through the european union member states to block our negotiations, that is, to block the achievement of the opening the next chapters, it starts with the basic questions, but it is 35 chapters, 33 in six clusters and two separate ones, so they are in stages, i think, they will block it, in many ways, now in the positive what has been done, it is really a huge achievement . of the ukrainian people, and i think that this is exactly the

dream path that a lot of people thought about before, and gave their lives for it, and not only now, because now, well, intensively and a lot of people are giving their lives for it, but also in the ato in the 14th year, and even before that, even defending this position before one or another government in ukraine, therefore... in my opinion, this is somewhere halfway, somewhere yes, because the next is not in the terms, i mean not in the hands, but in the scope of the tasks, because it is political to pass politically, to open negotiations now is only half the work, further on is very difficult work, where there will be many opponents, and i assure you, whoever will be the next government in ukraine, he will not be delighted further from and... mentation, because it is in essence, you have to accept the rules, this is not a negotiation, this is accepting the rules,

how do civilized european countries live , where the courts are independent, where there is no telephone right , where there is no selective justice, where there are no calls from the upper offices, who are chased and imprisoned, even from political opponents, and who needs to go to the forest calmly, where there is no repressive. system, and we still have elements of it , that is, these are only flowers now, and when the berries begin, then everything will be understood, and one more point, i believe that without joining nato, or without providing a security umbrella there by a bilateral agreement about the defense of the united states, not as it is now, but about joint defense, where troops enter our territory, without this, well, european integration... let's put it this way, it will be complicated, therefore there are a lot of tasks, we must

continue to join forces, but this is the fact that, unfortunately, it will be difficult to take advantage of european integration now, but our children will definitely live in much better conditions than we do. well, it must be said that this week the european council approved the candidacy for leadership positions in the key institutions of the european union, the prime minister estonia's kaya kallas is proposed for the position. the high representative of the european union, the ex-prime minister of portugal antonio costa was elected as the president of the european council, and ursula funderlaijen is taking the position of the european commission for the second term, in her. after the approval, ursula fondeen thanked the leaders of the eu countries for their support and declared her readiness to present her program to the european parliament. let's listen to what ursula fonderlyam had to say. i would just like to express my gratitude to the leaders who supported my candidacy for the second term of the presidency of the european commission. for me, it is a great honor and i am happy

to share this very special moment with antonio costa, the next one. of the european council with my dear friend kaya kalas, who is nominated for the position of high representative of the eu in the next composition of the european commission. for me, this means that i will seek to obtain a decision from the european parliament on my appointment after presenting my political guidelines for the next 5 years. so we have to take another step forward. during the meetings of the european council, mr. valery. zelensky signed a security agreement with the european union, so what does this security agreement with the european institution mean, because there are 17 or 19 separate security agreements that we have already signed, and at the same meeting of the european council we signed with lithuania and estonia, which means a security agreement with

the european council, or with the european union, or rather, well... i will say this, all agreements in themselves are diplomatic, diplomatic work, and it is good that there is some kind of in-depth fixation of in-depth relations, for the practice of our relations with the european union, this agreement not much to add, it fixes those mechanisms, the level of relations that exists, although it also has intentions, well, it is indefinite, unlike other ten-year ones, well, indefinite. it is clear why, because it actually captures the current attitude of the european union, if we open the foreign policy section, and then the foreign policy-security section, we will understand that it is precisely in this section that we have progressed more than anything, in fact, so i am not surprised that we have such an agreement, i

read it carefully, well, to be honest, nothing there... specific, let's say, i didn't find it, and it would hardly be there, because the european union is not a non-defense organization, despite the fact that the structure is largely military, it also duplicates the nato one, but all- after all, the european union cannot ensure ukraine's security, but it can strengthen bilateral cooperation with its actions, the supply of weapons, there is a fund. which were talked about, that is , these things are simply collected in one document, and they give an opportunity to imagine our current state of relations, which is really here absolutely the highest during the entire period of our interaction with the european union, and it at least establishes that there will be no lower level, and how can it be lower, if we are going to be members

of the european union, how can it be lower, well, because of the added value, how little ... an agreement, for example, with britain, which is not a member of the eu, or bilateral agreements with others, well, the us, let's say, it does not have such added value, very powerful, but nevertheless it is very symbolic, and emphasizes that our european union integration is also about security. mr. valery, another important point, returning to our path to the european union, is hungary, which... published or prepared a list of 11 proposals regarding national minorities. ukrainian pravda published this list and writes about the fact that ukraine publicly undertook to fulfill in order to start negotiations on joining the eu. the publication calls the clause on the conditions

for the realization of the language rights of national minorities a key stumbling block, according to which the whole of transcarpathia should in fact be recognized traditionally in these 11 clauses. these 11 proposals now look like an ultimatum from budapest to kyiv, or am i misunderstanding what the hungarians want and what concessions they want in transcarpathia for themselves, let's start with the fact that i haven't seen this document, well, that's exactly what the hungarian side proposed , but i thank our investigators, experts, journalists that they... said this, although these points were already known from the statements of the minister of crown affairs, mr. siyart, and i heard them somewhere even during my work, when i participated in meetings with on the hungarian side, that means in principles the position that ukraine has taken now, that if we were to skip this moment now and, as it were, talk about the fact that we

will do everything, well, maybe it was practically correct, because now the issue is aggravating, we had to solve the beginning of the process, but then i know , what hungary wants to shake off, to put it briefly, the concept of the current hungarian government is now as follows: not only with regard to ukraine, but also with regard to slovakia, romania, they want not only that the rights of national minorities in the countries, well, hungarians, they want to be governments of these countries specifically created conditions for the development of these minorities, so that they were no longer minorities, but developed in such a way as to have dominance. that is, the idea in ukraine to obtain first cultural, then territorial autonomy, that is, what is the difficulty, we got a big

mess with the russians from this, but we gave crimea, in fact, such autonomy, and even this autonomy was enshrined in the constitution , by the way, this is one of the consequences of the compromises of the social contract of that constitutional night of 1996, which we now remember today, so here it is... there was a compromise, so it was an exchange, that is, it was a very big compromise, securing the autonomy of crimea, and as we saw, a compromise, well, which gradually led to very big problems as a result, so once again go through the on the rake of some kind of territorial autonomy on their territory, this contradicts the national interests of ukraine, this is clear, and there are additionally already mechanisms, that is, hungarian civil servants, so that... they are not required to speak ukrainian at work, so that the representation is fixed in central power structures in ukraine, well, in

the parliament and so on and so on, that is, these are already further processes, so i think so, in order to remove the question of the goals of hungary, and i will remind you that no one answered, well at least i answered did not receive what was done two days before the invasion. a large-scale invasion of ukraine on the 22nd , somewhere on the 22nd in february, what were the hungarian military units doing in the border villages, when they were withdrawing their troops, evacuating people and tanks entering there, what was it, i am told that it was preparations for crossings to do in order to then evacuate the ukrainians, i doubt that the military was preparing equal crossings, so until i get an answer to this question... and why ukraine was forced to do some things even earlier, that is, these questions, let the hungarian side tell, and then we will talk about other things, so

the rights of national minorities in ukraine will be guaranteed, and if we restore trust with the hungarians so that we will be together, we will see that the hungarian side promotes our integration into the eu, because look, they want to support the hungarian community, yes combine it. community in a single political, cultural, economic space within the framework of the european union. help ukraine join faster and you get everything you want today. and then ukraine will look more calmly, even at some things there autonomously. i'm sure. that is, i believe that this list of requirements should be resolved in parallel with the process of accession to the eu. maybe there will be when it closes. well, we dream so much about the future, when the basic issues will be closed, when there will still be transitional ones the provisions are certain, but then we can talk about

some of these requirements, so that some additional things are introduced in parallel from the moment of accession, and the protection of national minorities, including hungarian, the hungarian language, education, a lot of things are being done now, and these issues can be removed, there there are moments, you can. remove, but certainly not to create autonomy, not to create some officials who do not speak the state language, i am categorically against this, and if the demand for ukraine from the side of hungary is the loss of our, if it were, sovereignty in terms of security, well, in such a case, i excuse me, then why do we have such a union with such countries, members of this union, or maybe hungary will leave this union? now i would actually consider such a scenario, because what hungary is creating, it has already got everyone there at the level of its leadership in brussels, now there is even a question

of getting rid of them. chairmanship from the first day, well , they didn't do it, so this is a bargain that is not appropriate, as putin would say to orban. well, the very end of our conversation, mr. valery, the global summit of mir-2 should take place at the end of the year, andriy yarmak has already announced that this summit can be held in saudi arabia, and it does not rule out that russia can take part in this summit, what are the initial positions of moscow. to agree that for them to participate in this peace summit and in general, what does their presence at this peace summit-2 mean? the initial positions are very well known: the de-occupation of the entire territory, including donetsk, luhansk region and crimea, well , the second is the return of all prisoners and compensation for losses, at least that's all, then the summits are a good thing, but this year nothing will happen, i will tell you briefly, no, there may be summits, there will be no decision, but...

why did i already say, because everyone will wait for november 5, then there will be a certain period, that is, no matter how much we want it, and the ukrainian side said that the plan will now be concrete, these are all maneuvers, and the parameters for exiting a large-scale war will be established, because i do not believe that with russia under this regime we will be able to, well , end the war, but a large-scale one is like that collision exit. well, it will not be within the framework of the summits, but in completely different mechanisms. thank you, mr. valery, thank you for the conversation, it was valery chaly, an extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine, a politician, a diplomat who knows everything about ukrainian politics and ukrainian foreign policy. thank you, mr. valery. and let me remind you, friends, that during this broadcast we are conducting a survey, we are asking you about whether you believe that trump is capable of ending the war in ukraine. so, let's look at the interim

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debate with trump, biden's main task was to show that he is not too old for the presidency. he did not cope with it. what now, whether the democrats plan to replace the candidate, how this debate will affect the voters, we talk about it all on the bbc live from london. i am yevgenia shedlovska. this was the first and very early debate between the potential candidates for president of the united states, and keep in mind that the election is about

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