the internet disappeared, every conversation, i 'm traveling now, yes, i'm traveling, because i'm in the car, because there's a connection, yes, well, that's good, mr. ivan, every conversation, now, who you don't meet, or someone calls and he asks what will happen to the light, because it happens that you go to work in the morning, there is no light, you come home from work, there is no light, you go to bed, there is no light, and you get up again and there is no light. what awaits us next? well, look, we must, must understand that the situation that has developed today is long-term, and what is it situation, we have lost a very large amount of generating capacity, very large, we have a zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant of 600 m , all coal-fired thermal power plants are occupied by about 90. 90 there is probably more percent of generation

by hydroelectric power plants, that is why we have a very large deficit of generating capacity today, that is why the power system is not is balanced today, and energy companies use different schedules of shutdowns, stabilization, emergency in order to balance the power system.

power plants, hydroelectric plants in a month, in two, even in a year, even in two years, for example, kakhovskaya gest, we will not be able to restore it in two years, that is why the energy workers, they draw up schedules, they try to withstand them, but today is the summer period and we need to prepare for the autumn-winter maximum, we need to repair equipment, which even working. in order for us to prepare for the winter, nuclear power units, they also go out for regular repair work, today we receive a lot of equipment from our friends, especially from the baltic states, these are autotransformers of large capacity, the usad government helps, this transformers must be installed, they must be adjusted, and for this

the equipment must be turned off, therefore, that is why such powerful work is currently underway, unfortunately, in order to carry it out, additional shutdowns are required, in addition to those related to connected with the deficit, in order to prepare as much as possible for the autumn-winter maximum, even if the level of outages is at today's level, unfortunately, it will not be better. this is under the conditions that, uh, our air defense will be strengthened, and those energy facilities, they will be protected, we will not there will be very large new destructions, and if, well, we need to look very, very, very carefully at the gas transportation system and strengthen the protection of the gas transportation system so that we do not have problems with...

gas supply, there is little time, i i just want to clarify here, ceo yasno, this is renat akhmetov's company, a huge energy company that supplies its own light to many million ukrainians, and he said that 12 hours of outages in winter, in autumn, this is the basic scenario, that is, it is not even the worst scenario. this is a basic scenario, to which is being prepared for the company, for which consumers should be prepared, exclusively for consumers, exactly what this means in principle... 12 hours without light, it is not 12 hours at night, for example, is it true, and in principle it will not hit any business, will business and consumers in principle withstand 12-hour connections, what are your predictions? well , look, 12 hours, that's it, as he would say, on average, i will say that it will be different in all regions, where it will be 10, where it will be 12, and if there are additional ... attacks there may

be and a day and two days, we are, we are not we can predict what will happen next if high-voltage power lines are damaged, if damaged. circle 330 around kyiv, kyiv region, this is a war, we must understand, a war, and anything can happen, it is meant that there are schedules, and it will not be that 12 there is no electricity, 12 there is, they will for 4 hours there, give electricity, then there will be no electricity for two hours, then this, and this, this, this situation is predicted to be... free, unfortunately, it will not be impossible to predict and it is impossible to organize, because the geography of the power that remains is different, the situation in the networks is also different, there are regions with damaged networks, but i will tell you, here i am

now in the south of odesa region, here i am born in danube bisarabia, we had such that we did not have electricity for 20 hours, because it is very... we are preparing for a difficult period, we are already preparing some possibilities for charging stations , generators, we are thinking about where there might be some... such a backup backup for the winter, if there is already a shortage in your locality in apartment building, we have to think about it now, we have no other way, ivan plachkov was with us, minister of fuel and energy of ukraine, chairman, ex-minister in 1999, 5-6 years, and chairman of the board of the union of

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a very solemn moment, we hope that the negotiations concerning ukraine's membership in the european union will begin. it is not only about so-called values, not only about some copenhagen criteria, it is about finances, about quotas, about various political groups, which are not always favorable to ukraine. what united us in recent years, we realized that moral ukraine is already in

europe. however, we must pass this one the procedure that poland also went through. i also had the pleasure of being a minister who prepared poland for membership 10 years ago, and i know that this is a difficult process. it was a complicated process 20 years ago when we joined, but now the eu is much more complicated. there are thousands of pages. european integration, that is, joint decisions at the european level, and additionally, ukraine has a war, we have a war. this is the first time that a country that is in a state of aggressive war, attack, aggression is preparing for eu membership, and we have to deal with this as well. it probably would have been ok and here we are keeping our fingers crossed and i wish the best for all of us. for this war to end as soon as possible, for ukraine to win it as soon as possible, and then everything would be

much easier and much faster, that progress in ukraine's entry into the european union, but for now we have it, we have a new parliament, which , fortunately, was not given to the extreme right , but entered it firmly, but they have a little more, in fact 25% in the parliament, they are to some extent radical right-wing dep... in my opinion, anti-ukrainian, and sometimes divided, but this is the kind of populism in europe has always been anti-european and still is, with very different parties, so the good news is that they are not united, but very strongly even pro-russian, and there are such cases, so it is worth paying attention, but this is a start, most one way or another it will be pro-ukrainian, there is no doubt about that, and it shows. that at the level of europe this extreme right is not dominant, but in some member states, during these

elections, we noticed that they are either in governments or putting pressure on governments, it has always been like that. i think, and at our moment, acceptance of 20 years therefore, both now and he believes that it will be so in the future as well, that not everyone wants expansion with open arms or welcomes new member countries, this is also a normal thing and it is and will be with ukraine. for this, it will be necessary to build a certain group of friends of ukraine, which exists, but must have a dominant role in the council in order to go through the whole process. so we will have a new chairman of the council, that is, of all member countries, by the end of this year. and do you know who can become him? there are candidates, but there are stronger and there are weaker ones. the european commission is expected to be convened by the end of this year, maybe already in july, we will vote for someone who will become the head of the commission, then

it will be necessary to receive the proposals of the commissioners, then there will be a hearing of the commissioners and then a vote of the parliament for the entire commission. and during the hearing of those commissioners, it will appear that there are quite a few who do not adhere to that pro-europeanness of those conditions that are so important, and it may take quite a long time, but i ... believe that by the end of this year we will have a commission and all institutions are needed to conduct negotiations, but already after june the so-called... screening, analysis of the compatibility of european legislation with ukrainian legislation, actually on the contrary, ukrainian law with european law, and here there must be a well -prepared commission, which, as i was assured, is already well prepared, that is, it is about ukrainian legislation, about certain acts, so

all legislative acts, everything that concerns. primarily european, because when we started negotiations with the eu, there was no topic yet, but in total several dozens of acts, the entire sphere of financial services, the entire financial sector, the entire digital sphere, there were problems with that and many, many others, but... it can last as in the case with the turks, i.e. 30 years. i think that we have learned from the example of the western balkans that this status of a candidate, or someone who is constantly in endless negotiations, is bad both for the union and for the candidate country, so i think that there will be no such thing regarding ukraine , hopefully, and care will have to be taken to avoid it, but

it will have to last as long as it lasts. it is necessary to allocate for this, so i, when i can see the cameras and speak in ukrainian administration, to ukrainian politicians, that it is very important to be well prepared for that screening, such nationalist forces or such political parties, because currently the situation in ukraine is very exceptional, everyone is simply focused on winning the war. social issues are very important to you, the war is very important, and of course, everything that... related to reconstruction will be important, and i don't know how long such political unity will last, in poland it was, and i always repeat this to my friends in ukraine, to whom i constantly tell about polish integration, that it is very important that all parties, no matter who won the elections, no matter who leads the government, that everyone strives for the same thing, this unity

should be very important, and that there will be such directions there will be... sectors in which there will be people who do not want to listen to europe, only to keep their own priorities, but unfortunately, everything must meet the requirements of the european union with what will be the outcome of the negotiations, and those national interests that also seek the eu, they do not serve europe, do not serve european unity, and ukraine has shown us how quickly we can to act, we speak with one voice. president zelenskyy made a request to accept ukraine, to give it the status of a candidate, and we did it in a flash, because we had the same views, and when we do not have the same views, then it lasts for years, and it greatly weakens the eu. i hope that ukraine , after those terrible trials, which may

end, will join the european union as soon as possible knowingly, realizing that... when you can be in the minority, you can sometimes be dissatisfied. when they return from the negotiations, different people will be waiting for them here deputies and various sectors, and will speak and scare those politicians who will not vote for them. there will be difficult moments, but the goal is the same: to feel safe, to be in a european family. and if, for example, we are talking about some special program to support ukraine during the war, we understand. euro-atlantic climates after the election in what is likely to be autumn may completely change in the united states. of course, the eu has to come up with something, and this means that there will probably be

some other policy related to security, and in particular, related to support for ukraine. it the fact that if we look for something good in what the aggressor from the east, that is, putin, did, it is precisely what helped us realize that europe is not ready, that ukraine will not protect itself, that europe will not protect itself, that we also need an alliance with the united states, but in general nato is also our recipe for security, but europe must also build its production capacity. you are probably the most advanced army in europe and it seems. to me that what the commission has prepared, proposals to improve this defense production potential in europe, which it will be necessary to finance somehow, and here europe

always has problems with finding a common solution, but we will do it, new european institutions will deal with it, and most likely ukraine will take an active part in it, because technologically you have shown that you are very developed or capable and open to new ideas. so let's build that european potential in accordance with nato standards, so that one day ukraine will feel safe, which is not in some separate union that does not fit into nato, only all that will do europe. i agree, we are talking about some additional funds. if it is about money, a few days ago there was a meeting in berlin at a very high level, where your president was also present. and ursula fonderlein, there were also various banks and financial institutions, many different agreements were signed, which provide guarantees for the financing

of ukrainian expenditures. so i think there are billions out there. it is difficult to finally understand how many billions there are, but there are definitely a lot of them. it is also especially important that those american funds, which were allocated by congress, are still not started on... therefore, we are also very much looking forward to it. any support for ukraine, primarily military, but what is second most important for ukraine, both of these things, not only defense capability, but also statehood, state provision, financing of expenses and social and defense, and all others, support of people's livelihood , everything is important, this is generally normal functioning. state, and this also requires money. what managed to vote in yez at the beginning of this year is that this amount should be voted for several years, so that it is not necessary

it was every time to start anew, and now finally, with those frozen assets of the russian central bank, it was possible to find a solution that was accepted by the g7, but this is a bit of a compromise. it is somewhat compromising, because there is no such possibility, if there was a unity of views of all the lawyers of the world, that it is possible to simply take the funds that are available and issue them without unnecessary complications, we would do it. but it was necessary to find a way to do it. and i think that the way that the financiers are now looking at, to see how that 50 million dates in the...

and then hope that ukraine will be able to win reparations in international courts, i.e. the return of money for compensation from the aggressor. so, i hope that a solution will be found, but i have no doubt that... private investors must also be attracted, and ukraine has many attractive elements for investors, but now there is a state of war, other moments. specifics of ukrainian legislation, reality, but not only reality, some investors say, i have to invest in something that can be destroyed tomorrow, right? this is security issue and cannot be neglected. ministers think there are some motives, but if you look at private investment, it is a really important point, but you have a huge potential for development? the potential

is huge, but how to deal with problems, for example? for example, in your opinion, what should our government and our society pay attention to, that is, here we are working, the european integration of ukraine is actually a broad issue, but there are various points that should be paid attention to, for example, it concerns... that, what you said is just one of those things not everything can be negotiated, values ​​cannot be negotiated, one cannot, like orban, claim one's own interpretation of values, i.e. human rights or democracy, this is obvious, it is all written down, and it is not possible to negotiate, and we need all these laws to adopt, but what seems to me the most important, i am also about that. i say every time when i train my ukrainian acquaintances, officials and politicians, i always pay attention to some management, because management is

the most important, it is actually everything from... the beginning and to the end, conduct that screening, conduct all those negotiations, prepare reforms. and the expensive model, such as in ukraine, now, for example, everything is fine on paper, while the reality suggests what? democracy can be improved everywhere. this is certainly necessary, but do not forget, if there is no effective functioning management in institutions, ministries, in the central government. at the local, regional level, they do, prepare and implement reforms, because the law needs not only to be adopted, but also to be implemented, to implement this law and to observe it, to make sure that it is observed, implemented, this is all very important, but in my opinion, we need quality mechanisms that would monitor democracy, because there are different ideas and political discussions,

because you do not have one party, but a differentiated parliament, and elections will be held some day after the war, and all this may fall within the period of negotiations, so you have to watch that one direction, but it is also important who will watch democracy. i had a meeting not only with ukrainian environmental activists, but also with other non-governmental organizations organizations that ukraine needs. as i saw on polish television. like during the missile attacks, they helped various institutions at the local level to make things work somehow, and those so-called ngos, that is , non-governmental organizations, also need to be strengthened, and there are also european funds and nato that can help, because non-governmental organizations are the best a controller, a control body, whether politicians adhere to democracy, whether there is no

corruption, all those things that... today complicate the perception of ukraine. civic society is quite indispensable in this regard, but they also need to be helped. but i know that there are european funds, that you need to actively communicate with the ambassador in kyiv, mrs. kateryna maternova, call the commission, if something seems suspicious to you, you just need to take it very seriously, because you need to be aware that the european commission and the parliament are friends. for ukraine in this whole process, the member states may be different, but we are friends, and therefore we want to help, we want ukraine as soon as possible ended that aggression with victory and for you to join the european union. thank you very much, ms. hübner, but i want to remind our viewers that danuta humder, a member of the european parliament, ex-commissioner for regional

policy affairs, was currently working in the espresso studio. european commission, i thank them for their frankness on espresso. greetings to all espresso viewers. yanavamelnik and news for your attention: the russians covered the village of zolota balka in the kherson region with massive artillery fire, a 72-year-old man was injured, the policemen together with medics went to help him, and the ambulance was attacked by a moscow drone, the ministry of internal affairs said, the victim was taken to the hospital, his wife was waiting for him at home. in a few hours, the russians attacked themselves again.