i think that what will bring the third world closer, well, i think, in general, the third world, at least in cyberspace, is already underway, it will already bring it closer, it is already developing, so it is possible that it is being talked about, by the way, it was not talked about much, the position of the united states, yes, there were some general phrases, that it should be stopped, but none about the mechanisms, well, we don't know yet, they are known to joseph biden, because he is currently the current president. and that's why we can like or dislike the pace, and the strategy of de-escalation or escalation management, but nevertheless, she now holds aid to ukraine and a partnership with the country's grand coalition, so it's a difficult, exhausting path, but at least it's clear, and donald trump, frankly, well, it's not known what team, and we know how he accepts decide he can make a single decision,

he can rely on the advice of a person he trusts, and this decision can be either very apt or very wrong. i think that he will have this time, if he is president, and the senate is for the republicans, he will have the opportunity to appoint his own people, which he wants, and it is, well, not known whether it is better, i know who advises him. now, including, including on issues of migration, security, well , i am no longer worried about donald trump, i am worried about the people around me, because i have encountered these people, and i know how they can either block something or to help, and in my case or in our case then, it was half the white house for us, half sales from the staff, so it was funny, of course, but it's funny at work, because there were ... situations where just energy and

confidence made it possible to solve the issue, so you can work with any option, there is no plan, well , donald trump obviously does not have one, but he is the kind of leader who can make bold decisions, they, i say again, they can be wrong, but the ability to make individual decisions. he has, mr. valery, but throughout the day i read comments on social networks and on the netix about what actually happened at this debate, and many commentators pay attention to or write about the age of biden and about the age trump, biden is 81, trump is 78, and they say, well , the americans don't have younger presidential candidates. who could do a lot

of useful things there, considering the age difference they have there, how do americans perceive the fact that their leaders, their presidents, they are already at such a respectable age, is n't it for american politics is not important and is not so fundamental and accordingly for the voters, god forbid. such a system as the american one with all its problems, and if i'm not delighted, what we have no-names who have not passed any work, who was a photographer and suddenly pops up, solves our issue of national security, and if i don't like the fact that we have people who worked in show business pop up, and then suddenly nothing passed, no trust of the voters, once in a situational moment they jump out and stand there... in high

positions, and then we sort it out, he is now running after them, then one is hiding somewhere, then he left, and then, those agents were there at all, to me prefers the american system, she imperfect, but it goes through party selection, it goes through the selection of funding by voters, that is, it is not just like that, in order for these candidates to be in such positions, money had to be given for them, and by the way, everyone donates or something. . well, in the campaign, yes, it is limited to a certain amount for voters and for legal entities, that is, it is not so much money, if they simply supported 10-15 large businesses, then this is one story, a huge number of businesses support such and that. of another, that is, it is a selection that has been built up for decades, and that they, well, i will say this, there may be a

moment here, well, there is a moment, i will say this, i do not want to interfere in their elections, but for some reason i felt that the next president would be a woman in the united states, well, for some reason i had such a feeling , it seems to me that they somehow missed, well, somehow , their historical development, they are not catching up a little now, they are not keeping up with it, it is the americans, but this seems to be the case, and regarding the attitude towards people who are wise, first of all, age is physical, in comparison with ukrainian, minus 12 years. this is a consequence of medicine, a consequence of the quality of life, products, water, that is, somewhere here and there, well, of course, this is a difficult job for politicians, but nevertheless, it affects everyone, therefore, if a bright brain and wise decisions work, then

frankly, americans look calmly at some nuances of physical , was after a senator in a debate one, well i won't name... specifically after a stroke, immediately after a stroke was in a debate, won, you know, it's a well-known story, roosevelt four times the president of the united states, despite the fact that everyone understood the fourth term, that he is in a very difficult situation, was nevertheless given his trust and, that is, the institutional machinery of the united states, the state, it's so strong that it allows... decisions, well, that maybe from the point of view that you asked, maybe risky, but they have a lot of ways out of it various thank you, mr. valery, for your answer, i will remind our viewers that we are working live,

we have valery chaly, a politician and diplomat live, and we are conducting a survey during our broadcast, we ask you about this, do you believe that trump is able to end the war in ukraine and no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, please write your opinion in the comments below this video, like this video, if you watch us live on youtube and facebook, if you watch us on tv, take take your smartphone or phone and vote on the appropriate numbers if you believe that trump is capable of ending the war in ukraine (0800-211 381, no), 0821382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end. program, we will sum up the results of this vote. mr. valery, this week a sufficiently serious and such a significant event happened before this event and before we came to this event, you, and you were involved, as

a person who started the european integration processes of ukraine after the revolution of dignity, in petro poroshenko's team, and now we are already on the threshold of negotiations with... with the european union and with us also moldova, does this mean that the decision of the european union to start negotiations with ukraine and with moldova is actually the destruction of all geopolitical plans and intentions of putin to transform ukraine and moldova in a part of some pseudo country or a new country like the soviet union, well, to. in fact, european politicians made it clear to putin that his plans for the humanitarian military and political annexation of ukraine and moldova, well, in fact, they failed, and the next stage after the start

of negotiations for accession to the european union for these countries will be an invitation to the north atlantic alliance, this is one of the steps to nato many questions. first of all , thank you for mentioning that the process of european integration did not start with the application, that is already a formal application to receive an application, but we heard from all the official stands that in two years we passed everything here, well done, submitted an application and became candidates, and we also opened negotiations, this process went on for many years, i will tell you , that i am involved, only possibly in some interesting moments, i remember, we prepared... it seems that in 1990, for the sixth year, such a report, in general, what are the copenhagen criteria, the specifics of achieving these goals, and they handed it over to the then president, i.e.

it was still there then, well, a lot of people weren't knew about this path in general, although we had already defined the european future in essence, well, in essence, our first... deputies even after the adoption of the constitution, with which i congratulate you today, just the anniversary of the ukrainian constitution, they defined this path further. i want to point out that there were stages of integration, in fact there is one moment that no one considers, you think, i say this to those who declare that european integration began just yesterday, that is, or during the term of the current government, nothing like that, do you think , what stages do not pass the free trade zone, first, the association agreement, by the way, the most interesting, i will say, we are now within the framework of the association agreement. and we will continue to meet all requirements, including the rule of law, including

democracy, freedom of the media, the judicial system, fair criminal decisions, and no one has canceled this, so please forget the euphoria, because it will be a difficult process , yes, it's very cool, what a political step, credit to the students of 2014, who came to the maidan for european integration, credit civil society. ukraine, which was not as depressed as it is now, and then there was pressure, even abroad, they traveled, pressured this decision, that is, and today our government has forgotten about it, we do not have this interaction at all, i am involved in the fact that i was the head of the public expert council at the committee of ukraine european union, and the cabinet of ministers listened to us, just representatives of non-state institutions, invited european ones to meetings. questions of compliance with the legislation were raised in the parliament, parliamentary hearings were held,

committee, and that's how we moved, that is, that's why it all started a long time ago, and now we are entering only a certain stage, and now regarding your question, whether this stage is the final answer to putin, at each stage of our integration, and i said that it started with a free trade zone, economic integration, further... association agreement russia put sticks in the wheels and tried very hard to oppose it. this was happening even now in principle. so there will be further stages as well. you will see, they will try through member countries of the european union to block us from negotiations. well, that is, to block the achievement of opening the following sections. it starts with basic questions, but there are 35 chapters, 33 in six clusters and two separate ones. so they are in stages. i think they will block it, in many ways, now in a positive way, what has been done

is really a huge achievement of the ukrainian people, and i think that this is exactly the dream path that many people thought about before, and they gave their lives for it, and not only now, because now it is intense and a lot people give their lives for this, but also in the ato in the 14th year, and even before that, even from... standing this position before one or another government in ukraine, therefore, in my opinion, it is somewhere halfway , somewhere yes, because further, not in terms, i mean not in hand, but specifically in the volume of tasks, because politically to pass, but politically to open negotiations now, is half the work, further is very difficult work, where there will be a lot of opponents. and i assure you, whoever will be the next government in ukraine, he will not be delighted with the implementation, because

it is essentially necessary to accept the rules, this is not a negotiation, it is to accept the rules by which civilized european countries live, where the courts are independent, where there is no telephone right, where there is no selective justice, where there are no calls from the upper offices, who is expelled and plant even from political opponents, and who needs to go quietly into the forest, where there is no repressive system, and we still have elements of it, that is, these are only flowers now, and when the berries begin, then everything will be understood, and one more moment, i think , what without joining nato, or without providing a security umbrella, bilaterally there, an agreement on the defense of the united states, not like with ... now, but on joint defense, where troops enter our territory. without this, well

, let's say this, european integration will be complicated, therefore there are many tasks, we must continue to join forces, but this is the fact that, unfortunately, it will be difficult to take advantage of european integration now, but our children will definitely live in much better conditions than we do. well, it must be said that this week is european council. candidates for leadership positions in key institutions of the european union have been accepted, prime minister of estonia kaia kallas has been proposed for the position of high representative of the european union, and the former prime minister has been elected president of the european council. portugal's antonio costa, and ursula funderlaijen is running for a second term as head of the european commission. in her speech after the approval , ursula fondeyan thanked the leaders of the eu countries for their support and declared her readiness to present her program to the european parliament. let's listen to what ursula funderlajen said. i i would just like to express my gratitude

to the leaders who supported my candidacy for the second term of the presidency of the european council. mission, it is a great honor for me and i am happy to share this very special moment with antonia kosta, the next president of the european council, with my dear friend, kaja kalas, who is nominated for the position of high representative of the eu, the next european commission. for me, this means that i will seek to obtain a decision from the european parliament on my appointment, after presenting my political orientations to the next 5 years, so we have to... during the meetings of the european council, mr. valery, zelenskyi signed a security agreement with the european union, so what does this security agreement with the european institution mean, because there are 17 or 19 separate security

agreements, which we have already signed, and at the same meeting of the european council we signed with lithuania and estonia. what does a security agreement with the european council, or rather with the european union mean? well, i will say so, all agreements in themselves, diplomatic, as diplomatic work, and it is good that there is some in-depth fixation there deep relationships. for the practice of our relations with the european union, this agreement will not add much, it fixes the mechanisms, the level of relations that exist, although it... also intentions, well, it is open-ended , unlike other ten-year agreements, well, open-ended, it is clear why , because in fact it captures today's attitude of the european union, if we open the foreign policy section, and then the foreign policy-security section,

we will understand that it is precisely in this section that we have advanced the most in fact, that's why i'm...surprised that we have such an agreement, i read it carefully, well, to be honest, i didn't find anything specific there, let's put it this way, and it would hardly be there, because the european union is not a non-defense organization, despite the fact that the structure is largely military, they also duplicate the nato structure, but still, the european union cannot provide ukraine with security, but... it can strengthen bilateral cooperation in the supply of weapons with its actions, there are funds that were talked about, that is, these things are simply collected in one document, and they provide an opportunity imagine our current state of relations, which is really the highest during the entire period of our interaction with the european union, and it

at least confirms that there will be no lower level, and how can it be lower? if we are going to be members of the european union, how can it be smaller? well, so value-added like a small agreement with, for example, britain, which is not a member of the eu, or bilateral agreements with others, well, the us, let's say, it does not have such added value, very powerful, but nevertheless it is very symbolic , and emphasizes that our european union integration is also about security. mr. valery, another important point, returning to our path to the european union, is hungary, which published or prepared a list of 11 proposals regarding national minorities, ukrainian pravda published this list, and writes about the fact, the publication writes about the fact that ukraine publicly undertook to fulfill

in order to start negotiations on accession to the eu. the publication calls the clause on the conditions for the implementation of the language rights of the national minority, according to which everything, a key stumbling block transcarpathia should actually be recognized as traditionally hungarian. well, these 11 points, these 11 proposals, now look like an ultimatum to budapest, kyiv, or am i misunderstanding what the hungarians want and what concessions they want in transcarpathia for themselves. to begin with , i have not seen this document. well, that's exactly what the hungarian side proposed, but i thank our investigators, experts, and journalists for showing this, although these points were already known from the statements of the minister of crown affairs, mr. sigart. well, i heard them somewhere even at work when he took part in the meetings with the hungarian side, it means that, in principle , the position that ukraine has taken now, that we

should skip this moment now and, as it were , talk about the fact that we will fulfill everything, well, maybe it was practically correct, so what is the point of exacerbating the issue now, we had to resolve the beginning of the process, but then i... know what the hungarian side wants, to put it briefly, the concept of the current hungarian government is now as follows: not only with regard to ukraine, but to slovakia, to romania, they do not want it's just that in the countries, the rights of national minorities, well hungarians, are ensured, they want the governments of these countries to specially create conditions for development. the fabric of these minorities, so that they are no longer minorities, but develop in such a way as to have dominance, that is, the idea in ukraine to obtain first cultural, then

territorial autonomy, that is, that we, what is the difficulty, we got into a lot of trouble with the russians from this, we gave crimea, in fact, such autonomy, yes, we also enshrined this autonomy in the constitution, this, by the way, is one of the consequences... the mission of the public of the treaty of that constitutional night of 1996, which we now remember today, so it was a compromise, so it was an exchange, that is, it was a very big compromise, the consolidation of the autonomy of crimea, and as we saw, a compromise, well, which gradually led to very big problems as a result, so once again going through the process of stepping on the rake of some kind of territorial autonomy on one's territory, this contradicts the national interests of ukraine, this is a well-known fact. and there, in addition, there are already mechanisms, that is , hungarian civil servants, so that they are not extorted from them to speak ukrainian at work, so that

the representation is fixed in the central power structures in ukraine, well, in the parliament and so on and so on, that is, these are already further processes, so i think so, in order to remove the question of the goals of hungary, and i i would like to remind you that no one answered, or at least i did not receive an answer, what were done two days before the large-scale invasion of ukraine on the 22nd , somewhere on the 22nd in february, what were the hungarian military units doing in the border villages, when they brought out their people were evacuated and tanks were entering there, what was it, i am told that crossings were being prepared to do this, so that later... ukrainians, i doubt that the military was preparing equal crossings, so until i get an answer to this question, and why ukraine was forced to do some things even

earlier, that is, let the hungarian side talk about these issues, and then we will talk about other things, so the rights of the national minorities in ukraine will be guaranteed, and if we and the hungarians have trust, we will restore trust so that we will be together on ... we see that hungarian party promotes our integration into the eu, because look, they want to support the hungarian community, so unite its hungarian community in a single political, cultural, there economic space within the framework of the european union, help ukraine to join faster, and you get everything you want today , and then ukraine will look more calmly, even at some internal autonomous things, i am sure, that is, i believe that this list of demands... should be decided in parallel with the process of joining the eu, maybe they will be when will be closed, well, we so dream of the future,

when the basic issues will be closed, when there will be in each, there will still be certain transitional provisions, but then we can talk about some requirements, so that some additional things will be introduced in parallel from the moment of entry, and the protection of national minorities, including hungarian. hungarian, education, a lot of things are being done now, and these issues can be removed, there are moments, it can be removed, but definitely not to create autonomy, not to create some officials who do not speak the state language, i am categorically against this, and if the demand for ukraine on the part of hungary is the loss of our, if sovereignty in terms of security, well, in that case, i'm sorry, why should we... then such a union with such countries, members of this union, or maybe hungary will leave this union? now, i would actually consider such a scenario,

because what... hungary is creating, it has already got everyone there at the level of its leadership in brussels, now there was even a question of depriving them of their presidency from the first day, well, they didn't do it , so it is a trade that is inappropriate, as would say putin orban, well, the very end of our conversation, mr. valery, the global summit of mir 2 should be held at the end of the year, andriy yermak has already announced that this summit may take place in saudi arabia, and i do not rule out that... in this summit may to participate in russia, what initial positions of moscow can we agree with, that for them to participate in this peace summit and in general, well, what does their presence at this peace summit-2 mean, the initial positions are very well known, the de-occupation of the entire territory, including donetsk, luhansk oblast and crimea, well, the second is the return of all prisoners and compensation for losses, at a minimum, that's all, then the summits. this is a good

thing, but nothing will happen this year, i will tell you briefly, no, there may be summits, there will be no decision, and why did i already say, because everyone will wait for november 5, then there will be a certain period, that is, how would we they didn't want that, and the ukrainian side said that the plan will now be concrete, it's all maneuvers, and the parameters for exiting a large-scale war will be set, because i don't believe what will happen to russia under this regime. we can, well to end the war, but such a large-scale clash, the way out, well, it will not be within the framework of the summits, but in completely different mechanisms. thank you, mr. valery, for the conversation, it was valery chaly, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine, politician, diplomat, who knows about ukrainian politics and ukrainian foreign policy, everything. thank you, mr. valery. and let me remind you, friends, that during this broadcast we

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