most likely, this is a ground base that has direct contact with golnas, that is, it is navigation, it is the navigation of russian missiles, missiles are guided by these means, airspace is explored by these means, they are controlled, including the guidance of russian planes, this is not the same the communication that we have, it may seem to some that something like mobile communication will simply remain there. without mobile phones, no, it's a system, it's a system, how our missiles work, using gps navigation, in russia, the glonas system, they, it's also satellite system, they use it, and this, it is used for missile guidance, let's say , aircraft missile guidance. thank you very much, mr. oleksii, for taking the time to join our broadcast, oleksii getsman, a russian-ukrainian veteran, was in direct contact with us. a retired major of the national guard

, and i would like to remind you that you are watching the program bereber together in ukrainian, which is hosted by us, andriy yanitskyi and gulsum khalilova, and it is a joint project of espresso and the atp tv channel. now we have a short break, after which we will talk about other topics. there are discounts that represent unbreakable discounts on citramon dar tablets. 10% at travel pharmacies for you and savings. summer is a time of rest and recovery, and i believe that this year we will be able to present a real fairy tale and some peace for children, whose world was destroyed by war. these children are heroes, father or

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because their parents went to protect our ukraine. i really enjoyed the trip to austria, i loved the museums we went to every day, it was amazing and i really liked how we went to restaurants. i visited the cities of salzburg, vienna and linz. this trip had a positive effect on me, i became more cheerful. thank you so much for such an incredible trip, it will never be forgotten in my heart. let's give together. memories that will warm hearts and help you survive these difficult and scary moments. selyam aleykum, kherla kunler, congratulations, we continue our joint broadcast of the first crimean tatar tv channel of the atr and the tv channel, the program.

i, gulsom khalilova, and my colleague andrii yanitsky work together in the studio for you. and we would like to introduce our guest, this is yevhen khlobestov, professor, dean of the faculty of natural sciences of the kyiv-mohyla academy, as well as head of the track, head of the track, economic and environmental expert network of the crimean platform. mr. yevgeny, congratulations. yes, have a good day. we are a military expert to you discussed everything that... happened on june 23 in crimea and the attack of the armed forces of ukraine on russian military facilities and the shooting down of these rockets by russian air defense over the beach, over people, and we all saw all these videos and so on, after why even the occupation administrations began to say that a lot of people canceled their trips to crimea and even their tourist trips, these tourist operators began to say that people simply do not go to the sanatorium and. how does this all affect

the tourist season in crimea this year? if you look at the latest attacks of the armed forces? it's just a different reality. the russians are in a different reality, for them... there is no war, so they go to crimea, supposedly it is completely safe there, i want to note that there was no air raid, by the way, that is, people were on the beach, they did not even know what was there there is a potential danger, on the other hand, crimea is currently such a source of tourism only for russians, and it is such an artificial tourism, because russia very much dates these tourist services, there are free tickets, there are various kinds of preferential tickets, i.e.... this is such an artificial reproduction of this function, i hope that after the return of crimea to the state borders of ukraine, when we develop the economy and, in particular , recreation there, we will first of all face a security problem, that is, how safe it will be to rest there. the second problem is

the quality of services, well, by that time ukraine will most likely be exhausted by the war, and we will not be able to invest in quality tourist facilities and services. so i'm enough. i am skeptical about this, as for me, then crimea will remain a tourist region for many years to come, mainly for crimeans, and such a future tourist hub will probably still remain in that region from the side of turkey and adjara, but probably not yet with ukraine, not for the first time, that is, if we are talking about tourism, so now, of course, we do not advise anyone to rest in crimea, because it is a theater of hostilities. after the release, too, i guess we will have to wait until it is safe there, that’s right, and plus i understand that rest and go, well, the people of ephesus, and the families of ephesus people, or some representatives of the russian administration there , etc., who are under sanctions and

simply cannot leave anywhere else, so recently the occupiers said that the daughter of the mayor of magadan was injured even there in the ahyara, or something like that , so the deputy mayor of magadh. well , that is, the people of facebook rest there, and here are all these people who simply cannot go to other countries? as far as i'm concerned, not only facebook people rest there, there are also a huge number of russians who are in their own reality, such people are in their own information bubble, there is no war in this bubble, and that is why crimea is such a soviet nostalgia, resort, vacation, crimea is ours, but finally they can go there, although no one forbade them to go there until the 14th year, that is, even for 10 years... they did not find out what is really happening, this information curtain has been created so much in russia that people who, as far as i understand, live in the north of russia, and are not very interested in what is happening in the european part, they are they imagine that everything

is fine, there are no hostilities, no rockets fly, and do not expect such an arrival, not only everything is fine, people buy real estate in the cream from... siberia, for example, from the northern regions of russia, they sell there, they buy in crimea, they are sure that this is their home forever, that there will never be a change, and then they come and, well, you know, recently this topic has intensified, when the russian occupiers so nationalize the homes of even ukrainian people's deputies, ukrainian singers recently destroyed the home of her nation... to send to war against of ukraine. here's how evaluate this pseudo-nationalization

of the russian occupiers, does it have any legal meaning and so on, what are we going to do about it and can we draw parallels, for example, with 1944. when these crimean tatars were deported, the enkshniki came again, and then already in 2014, the children of the nkbd members simply burned ukrainian passports and shouted that crimea is with russia forever, this is a deep question, because first of all, if we talk about the economic profit from such handouts, it is minimal, against the background of the cost of the war, to say that it is somehow helps russia fight more effectively. against ukraine, probably not, it is an informational excuse. russia is trying to show russians, crimeans and other russians that here we have dealt with a potential fifth column of pro-ukrainian elements, and their real estate has gone to the needs of ieds. yes, well,

but really, to say that this somehow now affects the situation in crimea, does it affect our attitude, does it have any legal consequences? unfortunately, there is no. russia does not recognize. there is a huge number of international judges, that is , even i gave such an example, there is russia part of the signatory of numerous law enforcement conventions, but if it does not comply. these conventions, she simply does not follow them, without even explaining why she does so. well, it doesn't, because there is no compulsion. the world is largely built on contracts that do not provide for the enforcement of these contracts. and among the vast majority of civilized signatories of such agreements, there is not even an idea that it is possible to brazenly not fulfill something, without explaining one's position, but i don't want to, if you have already made a commitment. well, that is, after hitler

no one imagined that a new hitler could appear, who could simply disobey all international norms and so on, absolutely, absolutely, and this, this is still the wonder of our partners in the european union and in the nato countries, they are always trying to present some kind of problem with russia, that it is necessary to submit to some international body, to try to find out some relationship with her through legal ones. stations, but it just doesn't happen, well, this week, please, can i have one question, and then you, just us, when we talked about international conventions, there are courts and so on, you know, i will remind our viewers that recently the european court of human rights recognized the obvious, and they finally after 10 years, after ukraine submitted to the european court of human rights, all the crimes of the russian occupiers, which they carried out there, yes, russia violated. 11 articles out of 18 possible regarding human rights, and there is already a court decision,

and russia will not comply with it, as i understand it, and then, does it make sense then, well, making such decisions and so on, what does it mean for us then , for us this means our movement in to the system of international law, we, as a state, a part of the world community that fulfills international obligations, support this general movement towards law. questions regarding our problems and regarding the russian federation, but there is again no coercive mechanism to force russia to comply with any international agreements. well, by the way, the second world war is really a very good example of when, well, what treaties did hitler's germany fulfill, or which ones were observed, and none, and as a result, this is a new page in the history of europe. with russia, the situation is more complicated, because i can't see today. even in the ideas of some kind of victory for us and our allies, conditionally

speaking, a parade in moscow, yes, and a change in the political system in russia, we do not set this as a goal, which means, unfortunately, that russia will continue to be in a state of hostility regarding ukraine, and that is why i emphasized in my speech at the recent forum of the expert network that we need to think about the formation of such a frontier, frontier economy, unfortunately, modern. russia leaves us no chance but to be ready for further unfriendly actions. i actually am i also wanted to mention the ispl, but, in addition, the latest news that was just spread by the media yesterday or the day before yesterday, which was announced at the forum of the expert network of the crimean platform, but you did not say it, about the situation around hersenes, you must have heard, and some media interpreted that... that hersenez was destroyed in general, well, it didn't sound like that, damage was caused and damage was caused

by the large construction near hersenez, which we will see when we liberate the crimea, whether the museum will still remain, what will we do with these illegal buildings, because illegal the building called the kenchen bridge will of course be destroyed, but all these buildings that the occupiers are building... and have already built during these 10 years, what will happen to them, what will happen to the people who work there, what will happen to people who live there and residential buildings are built, how will we act in relation to the russians who came to crimea, and in relation to all these infrastructural changes, this is really a very thorough question, because according to various estimates, from 750 to more than 1 million russians. these are people who did not have no rights to cross the borders of ukraine and stay in crimea, settle, buy

real estate, etc. of course, crimea is filled with real estate, and the taurid highway, and other objects, and in the future, of course, that ukraine will not destroy them, well, i can't imagine that our government makes a decision to blow up such a number of residential buildings there. i think that we have someone to accommodate in crimea, in these buildings. we have a lot of people who would... have gone through the war and are still today fighting and protecting our present, and so i think that this real estate should be distributed already through some state programs, some there it will be confiscated and... yes, in principle distributed, and as for these people, the situation there is not obvious, because some of them, well, 100% have to leave the territory of ukraine, ugh, but there are people , who came there as teenagers, who became adults, who created their own families, when, relatively speaking, part of the family has a passport

of a citizen of ukraine, part does not have this passport, they already have their own children who can appear for it. time, so this question is not mechanistic, that is, it must be formed there a certain policy, how to treat these people, how to deport them, or encourage them to return to the territory of the russian federation? the only thing we have to understand is that if we leave this million, relatively speaking, new crimeans in crimea, we will never see either a ukrainian or a crimean-tatar crimea, and the recipe that was used in the baltic countries with gray passports? whether it works or not, what does the experience of these countries show? this, this is true, this experience cannot be used mechanistically, because despite the fact that even in such a small country as in latvia, almost half of the population was so -called russian-speaking, that is, not the indigenous population, some of these people after

integration into the european union became absolutely loyal citizens of these states, learned from... one language, received citizenship and are working today, but a huge number of people for various reasons , including with some, you know, such soviet principles, they remain people with limited rights, and today this is also a certain challenge, a front problem for these small countries, well, that is, they cannot go to elections to elect someone there and even go to public positions, yes, but they live there, yes, but they live there, and by the way, this was a requirement of the european union. that is, so that there is no forced deportation of these people, a certain part of these people do not have passports of the countries in which they live, but they are there and form a certain such, well, political environment, emotional environment, and well, that is, they are really people, if they do not adapt to the state policy, to

the state formation of the state where they are, they automatically become so... the so-called fifth column, that is, they are a certain danger for the future of this state, the same situation will be for crimea, but it is still an element of instability, even if it, even if people are part of society, but have not changed their views, here we are we know the story with latvia, that the mep from latvia, tetiana zhdanok, as it turned out, was an fsb agent, she was elected precisely in this russian-speaking chamber, that is, she represented their interests in the european parliament, given that. that ukraine is going to become part of the european union, and we will too deputies, people who are not loyal to ukraine, but live on its territory, can once again delegate someone to the european parliament and in fact influence the entire european policy in general, this is such a trojan horse, in fact, which is introduced into the body of ukraine,

that is, this problem deeper than it seems, it seems to me, it is deeper, and you still have a solution, it is definitely deeper. well, today, at the level of the expert network of the crimean platform , we discussed that crimea after deoccupation should be deprived of the right to elect its representatives for five or better 10 years to the electoral authorities, that is, to the ukrainian parliament or to local elections, well, there is such a historical experience, for example with hitler's germany, so and so and then the political situation, political struggle and, in particular , deputies to the european parliament will be formed. that by that time we will already be part of the european union, that is , a military administration, it will be a military-civilian, first military, then military-civilian administration, well, then we will move on to traditional forms of government, cultural and educational programs should be, which bring the ukrainian context into the information environment, and as far as i understand, the administrative reform must also take place,

because despite the fact that the heads of military military administrations will still be in charge. it is still necessary to build a decentralized system of self-government, such as that which operates in the free territories of ukraine, and do you understand the final design, that is, sevastopol, akyar will be a part, a separate administrative unit, will be part of the crimean peninsula, there are different scenarios that are being discussed, it will definitely be part of the ukrainian peninsula, i would very much like it to be okear, not sevastopol, secondly, we need a political decision and a constitutional decision, in my opinion, to deprive sevastopol yar of its special status, that is, it should be the same city as everyone else. cities in ukraine. moreover, taking into account a certain political component, which we see today in sevastopol akyari, his status should be definitely not special,

absolutely ordinary. how will it look in further construction, this is a question that can be discussed. from the fact that it will be a city within the borders of the bakchosarai district of crimea, or can it be one of the cities, like yalta with part of its own. of the united territorial community, but this issue today, of course, has not been resolved, it is being discussed, it is a problem for communication between experts and government officials, but under any conditions, we need to see such a new governmental structure of crimea today. today there is a decision regarding the formation of united territorial communities instead of those districts that exist in crimea today. it will such a scheme of administrative management is completely different, and we will focus on it, but it will still work fully. the so-called sevastopol, and i am wondering whether

we will see a change in the toponymy of crimea in the near future, is there any work being done on this matter? there are developments, in particular the crimean tatar resource center has done a lot to make these developments public, there are new names, new old names, let's say, that everyone can see. at the level of our parliament and this is a difficult process, well plus such a decision during wartime, during wartime there are restrictions on this matter, we still have two oblasts on mainland ukraine that should have been renamed a long time ago, i mean dnipropetrovsk and kirovohrad oblasts, which in fact are already syacheslav and... the constitutional court recognized that such a renaming could be possible, syacheslav oblast and kropyvnytsky oblast, and despite the fact that the war is going on, these oblasts are still so closed in our country, they remain so,

it is simply a matter of the fact that even before the deoccupation of crimea , we must be ready, if and when we are let's go to crimea, so that we already have all the work done, that all the bills, everything is ready, the only question is to accept and implement it in crimea, there are two more... important questions, well, i will ask one question, infrastructural, yes, so that we are ready for the liberation of crimea, we are liberating crimea, it is clear that the energy bridge, which was laid by russia and together with the kerch bridge, will be destroyed, and it is clear that the water supply to crimea is already a problem, due to the fact that russia blew up the kokhovskaya guess what we're going to do, where we're going to... give power to crimea, where are we going to get water from, are we going to find it, are we going to restore the chukhov canal , and will we be able to, excuse me, let me add, restore

this northern crimean canal? first of all, we will not be able to restore it, and it makes no sense today, it is standing dry, and after many years, when the fate of the kokhov reservoir will be decided, i am particularly a great critic of the restoration of the kokhov reservoir. we have an absolutely unique ecosystem there today, which must develop, live there and solve the problems of water supply in that part of ukraine, we must look for other engineering solutions, i think we will find them, and as for the channel to the crimea, these are again very controversial issues, because, first of all , it is possible to build a closed channel, not an open one, because, well, from the open channel , evaporation was set at 50% , and even more, that is, we really evaporated this water. well, if you remember what this north crimean canal looked like, it is the waterlogging of the terrain around it for several meters, and it

was generally such a structure that needed serious repair and renewal even before the annexation, but climate changes, the lack of water from of the north crimean canal and the increase in the population, i.e. in crimea , water consumers have increased from 2 million to 3 million, i.e. this is a huge number of added... in such a rather complicated state, we studied the water communication systems of crimea for the 13th year, for example, when there were still ukrainian objective statistics, there was the level of wear and tear of funds in relation to water supply and drainage reached up to 80% in certain administrative units, i.e. the situation is not much better. most likely, and the second problem is that today the authorities in crimea, the russian authorities, raise underground water from underground horizons and run it into communal

water supply systems. this is an uncontrolled flow of such underground water, first of all, it is from the actual dehydration of these horizons, the water changes its quality, it becomes very salty, it needs additional treatment in order to make it safe for consumption, and most importantly, that now this water will not be there, and when we return crimea, we will see this water crisis in all its aspects, as they say, and that situation, which will be very... difficult for ukraine, as far as energy is concerned, this is a difficult issue, but today we there is not enough power, and this deficit is very glaring for ukraine, if , conditionally speaking, crimea were to be annexed to ukraine tomorrow, we physically have no possibility today to provide power to crimea, of course, that russia will not supply anything there, and of course, it is obvious, i.e. and electricity, and water, and gas supply, that

's it... there will be challenges that we need to prepare for, we talked a lot about it at our meetings of the expert network, what mechanisms are there to involve our partners in the black sea basin, to create a system of additional local generation, so that people do not end up in a catastrophe, well, imagine the situation one happy day for ukraine, the last russian soldier leaves the crimea, after that the russians turn off all the makers of the entire energy supply and the entire situation, crimea from... stops in the event of a disaster, and we must have an answer at that moment, we will now bring in some local energy supply system, we have a solution to the problems of water supply, drainage, and we must provide for the basic needs of the crimeans so that life remains there, while that we still do not know under which scenario de-occupation will be implemented, and at the same time we still have problems , we have a problem, well, it is possible to experience solving these problems, which we are currently

experiencing, when... mobile power plants are created, and when are created precisely autonomous sources of energy, it could be used after the liberation of crimea to provide crimeans with electricity, so the capacity of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant will not be enough, or can we not predict what will become of it at all? we have a couple of minutes, as nuclear energy experts say, including olha kosharna, the zaporizhia nuclear power plant today. the station is in such a state that it is technically impossible to put it into operation. it is a long way for a station in a safe state to be included in any power grid it is in the state of so-called cooling or cold idle for too long. and that is why we cannot count on the power of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, even after we fully restore our control over this facility. thank you very much, mr. yevgeny.

we are looking for 16-year-old sofiyka voronina from the kharkiv region. the girl disappeared in the village of zolochiv back in february of the 23rd year, and since then there has been no news about her. therefore, it is very important to know even the smallest details about the possible location of the girl. attention to the photo. sofia voronina is clearly younger in this photo.

let me remind you, there is still her now. years old, she has an oval face and dark blond hair. if anyone has suddenly seen the girl or knows where she might be now, call us immediately on the hotline of the magnolia children's search service at the short number 11630. calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free. if suddenly there is no connection or the possibility to call, write to the chat-bo of the child tracing service in telegram. i also want to remind that they are ongoing. the search for ten-year-old artem kholodny, who also disappeared in the kharkiv region already in the city of kupyansk, back in september 2022. his mother asks for help in finding the boy. imagine that a woman has not seen or heard from her son for more than two years. i appeal to everyone who can see or know any information about my child, my son, cold.