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and in the european commission, and viktor orban will get rid of his influence, you will never put pressure on bulgaria, because i understand that in bulgaria, everyone is not very worried about this influence in the european parliament of the european commission, but viktor orban is worried, and who is the euro commissioner now for the expansion of the european union? hungarian politician, well, viktor orbán does not want to lose such positions, and that is why he is just sitting now, packing his suitcase, what will fit in, what will not fit in there, maybe a photo of zelensky. he can lay his wife, he is mad, but he goes, this means that it will also be possible to work with all these requirements in this way, that is, in your opinion, conditionally speaking, we will have the opportunity to at least level some of these requirements, because if we speak, in particular, on the same european truth, i have now discovered, there are quite a few... and
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requirements , which are problematic for our country, there orbán also demands to change the constitution, to make a representative of the hungarian national minority a mandatory delegate in our parliament, that is, to make a deputy mandatory, so there it is again about the ukrainian language, well, hungary after russia is number one yes relatively speaking, a fighter against the law. which relate to the state language, and there is even talk that those people who represent the authorities are elected in the territories of the hungarian national minority, so that they can generally level, conditionally speaking, the status of the state language, there are a lot of things that actually relate to the recognition of all transcarpathia as hungarian, by the way, not hungarian, but hungarian national heritage, that's how they say it there. and
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there the question is that they want to raise this percentage qualification, so to the point that they don't only the berehiv district, there are also small areas of transcarpathia, in principle, all of transcarpathia was considered a region from the presence, but what, what will this give practically, please tell me , well, let's say, we raised what it will be, there will be bilingual signs on , and it worries you too, maybe, well, if, if we talk about... about the population census, then the population of transcarpathia according to the data of 2001, and this is already data that is not entirely correct, hungarians in the territory of transcarpathia is 12% , i think it's less now, i don't even argue with that, i mean, how much does it bother you, if even at the entrance to the settlements where there will be no hungarian population of the transcarpathian region, there will be a historical inscription of the hungarian language, well, i think that these are some approximate conditions that russia imposes on us, that is... we have an analogue somewhere, no, we don't
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have an analogue. russia demands simple things from us, for ukrainians to speak russian , for the russian language to be here, for the russian language to be taught here in schools for ukrainians . it is about what if there is even one class in a school, imagine one class for the whole school, and we understand very well that a school can have 20 classes, 30 classes, 40 classes, if there is only one. class will be hungarian, then this school should already be recognized as a hungarian school in fact, but in this one, it is meant that the children who will be in this class will be taught the subject of hungarian, but all the other 19, and including this school will to be called the hungarian school of the hungarian national manshchyna, well , you understand that, it's about justice, it's not it is quite fair, well, look, if ukrainian students will learn this not about justice, it is about... protecting the interests
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of justice, so that we join the european union, but here the question is, where are our interests, our interests are that we became members of the european union, it is possible, like north macedonia, 30, well, we well understand that such demands, for example, hungary can make another 11, then another 11, another 11, of course, if orban is not in power, if orban is in power, then no, i think that it will not only be agreements, demands from orbán, again, look, don't confuse it with russia, it's a simple thing in russia, russia wants a russian-speaking ukraine, in... orbán wants hungarians, transcarpathians, to speak hungarian, to be taught hungarian . this, but i think that the hungarians are now maximally protected in those territories where they live compactly, i do not argue with this. and by the way, if we talk about the statements of the hungarian national minorities who currently live in the territory of transcarpathia, then it is possible, can any of our viewers google it now to even look, they say clearly about the fact that there are no demands, no conditions for ukraine. they don't have them, because their rights
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are currently fully ensured by the ukrainian state, i'm not arguing with that, i 'm arguing with the fact that it will be with us if suddenly such a tragic event occurs in our country. conditional signs in the settlements of transcarpathian region, where there is not a large number of hungarian population, well , there will be these signs, what will change from this, and ukrainians live there anyway, moreover, you understand that the number of hungarian population will not increase, but to decrease, that's why i gave the data that this is for 2021, now they are even less, of course, this is logical, because taking into account the economic situation in ukraine, which differs and will differ for the worse from the economic situation. hungary, you want, a country, a territory that is at war, then the number of the hungarian population will decrease objectively, and oran is simply making efforts to virtualize problems, but what do we get from this, here you are talking about justice, politics is not about justice , you again resort to this category, which is ukrainians all the time leads you into a deep corner, politics is about
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art, maybe, but again i tell you, will you return to north macedonia, is it fair that north macedonia changed its name to the northern one, as it is now, as its new president once again says gordana silyanovska davkova, if there is a northern macedonia, where is the southern one? it is unfair, but she joined nato. will it be fair if some such articles appear in the constitution of north macedonia that the macedonians do not want to see? it is unfair, but they can join the european union, or they can sit his justice in the hallway. another 20 years, and we will sit together with her and talk about how terrible orbán is, i'm not telling you that these demands are fair, listen to me, i'm telling you that in any case , a country that is a member of the european union, has much more opportunities to prove itself
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than a country that aspires to do so. the hungarians simply had time before us, if we behaved like hungarians, we would now set conditions for the hungarians. well, that's another question, so... the question here is whether we did 30 years, well, that’s another discussion, look, i generally think that what do you know, how the macedonians behaved when the bulgarians told them that they needed constitutional recognition of minorities, the bulgarian minority, they said, we do it together with other national minorities, we constitute the status of all minorities in the article of the constitution, for bulgarians, vlachs, albanians, well, albanians have for... they can say no, we forbid, you need such an article where there would be no one else except roma, bulgarians are unhappy, but they are not
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there were no bulgarians, that bulgarians are good, and these are not good, not real national minorities, they are forced to accept it, i suppose we can change the legislation. for the benefit of all national minorities of this type, well, we have a law on indigenous peoples, we can absolutely calmly grant some rights to bilingualism in certain settlements, and they are there now? i know, i mean, change the percentage, uh, so that, let's say, not only hungarians fall under this bar, but also poles, bulgarians, romanians, gagauz people, we have for gagauz people, what do you think is the percentage of gagauz people are there fewer villages? than 15, it is true, but maybe if we had plates in the gagauz language, it was also absolutely correct, what makes the gagauz different from other national cars, it is not their fault that there are fewer of them, you see, we can go this way, leveling the requirements due to constitutional changes, if we are talking about prostitution changes at all, some decisions
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we can make, with whom we can work, in some cases we can, like macedonia, demand international arbitration, so that this would be a plan. let's say which will offer france and germany, hungary and ukraine, and both sides will then be forced to compromise, but simply say that we do not like these demands, they are unfair, andriy, this is a road to nowhere, justice never works in politics, in politics it always works the art of defeating the opponent, the most important thing here, what i am leading all this to in general, the most important thing is that it does not happen that... that we fulfilled the demands of hungary, did not join the european union, these are the most important things, and by the way, you talked about that there are a whole series of obstacles, obstacle number one, we understand that this is a war, obstacle number two, this is not only a matter in hungary, it may
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also be a matter of other demands of various sectors of our economy, of course, and that is not an economic demand, but these are no longer economic demands, and the third question, that... unequivocally, on this whole thing that you and i are talking about, in the upcoming parliamentary elections , those forces will rise up who will say, no, i'm sorry, we are against this. and many people in ukraine will say, we will support them, well andrii, well, that's right, well, again, just like the macedonians, how the macedonians supported these nationals, that's what i'm leading to, the main thing here is to find the middle ground for all sides, you don't need to look for it, you don't need to look for the middle ground by winners, look, you don't need to look for the middle ground, you need to give people the opportunity to express themselves, if people decide that it is more important for them to have it written simply in... in one language in zakarpattia oblast, this is necessary so that not only zakarpattia does not accept it, but the whole
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of ukraine, which for a person, say, in lviv or poltava oblast, will be fundamental , so that there would not be this tablet, and she will vote for it, and a political party will get the majority there, which will say, when we come to power , we will not conclude any compromises with hungary, as it happened in north macedonia, so people need the european union so much, so they will be calm later will enter the eurasian union, i'm talking about that. can you imagine, because there will be no claims from orban, and orban can in such a case... go to transcarpathia, why transcarpathia will be conventionally speaking, orban, look at what, what is
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the whole, this, what is the whole story, orban , most likely, when russia dared a large-scale offensive on february 24, 2022, somewhere in his deep dreams, don't make it up, andriyu, he had in mind the occupation, whether it was possible or not, hungary is a member of nato and the european union. is it a utopia, a utopia, the fiction of people who do not understand how politics is built, how the first hungarian soldier enters the territory of the zakarpattia region, hungary leaves nato, the european union, and what kind of money does it live on, russian or chinese, that that is, that is, it is a priori impossible in the future, which, which the population of the transcarpathian region, well, i think that as of now it is about one and a half million, what is the population of hungary, eight, probably in itself... that hungary decided that it did not need the european union and nato, and occupied
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transcarpathian region. what is the population of 8 million ukrainians in hungarian hungary? there are no hungarians in zakarpattia oblast. do you understand? you get a region with 1.5 million foreigners. hungary has not lived in such a state since trianon in 1918. hungarians have already forgotten what international means. mutual, they have the last national minority, i apologize for the political incorrectness, there were jews who were exterminated during the holocaust, there was no one else, and how? hungary, in principle, is a classic example of a mononational state, how do you imagine the government of such a country, which then receives in the parliament? well, if someone recognizes this occupation, of course, some party of ukrainian landlords, which has 25 there, with such
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a number, it is clear that all ukrainians vote for one ukrainian party, and how much it has in the parliament, 25%, well, 20, at least so , may to be, and without this party, you will not form a government, or a president, if you were not a president, of course , a ukrainian, yes, because otherwise there is no prime minister from fidesz, you would not dream of such a thing in your wildest dreams, but you have a marginal one there. the territory in the composition, oh, which one, which is still adjacent to the russian occupation zone, yes in galicia? well, you make this up sometimes, no, it's not me making it up, it's actually what people say, that is, i asked the question, what people say, and i broadcast it to you, because probably many of our viewers are also interested, but you remember that you live in a country where most people lack logic as a class of thinking, lack logic because they are all the time and by the way, people don't even... you can blame them for that because they are people with a soviet heritage, and they think
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that in such a situation they must have done so, you understand, this is the opinion that if the police came to the neighbor's house and took him somewhere and the apartment remained empty, i will definitely come and take it away his tv, if nothing happens to me, so do people, but yes it is done by people in the bush, well, not people, not people, russians, who, in principle, have nothing to lose. and orban has something to lose, he is the prime minister of the country, he does not join the european union, he joins and blackmails everyone there, and they all stand and say, how should we solve this issue? comrade viktor, can you imagine, if all this is lost, who vladimir putin will be with, he will not be particularly interested in what viktor orban wants in this life, he has seen many such viktor orbans. and by the way, interestingly, the largest, for those who are interested in this issue, the largest the national minority of hungarians is located in two countries, in romania and in slovakia, in
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romania there, not only a small area in... transcarpathia like we have in romania, there is a whole region there, a whole region, in fact, the center of the country, not even near hungary, but separated from, from the conditional border, yes, where the majority of hungarians live, a similar situation in slovakia, but there they are actually close to the border, just as we have in the situation with ukraine, but there in we see hungarians. well, we understand that both romania and slovakia are members of the eu and nato, and that's why of course, orbán does not have so many questions about these countries, well, not so many, there are hungarian parties there, although there, although there they influence the political processes of prenistria, yes, yes, although there, by the way, they established a qualification there here are these settlements, and it is 20%, i am
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in front of the program, not 10, yes, not 10, yes. 20%, this applies to romania, well you know that romania and hungary always have difficult relations, but the influence of these hungarian parties is very large both in romania and in slovakia, political parties, it's just that transcarpathia is small in our country, and there is a hungarian party there, and there is a hungarian party, and it is in the transcarpathian regional council and in the berehiv district council, and there is also a member of the european parliament, as a rule, from transcarpathian hungarians, so of course. that ukraine actually protects national minorities, but even if you take ukrainian legislation, it is entirely european conscious, it protects and the romanian national minority is protected, especially after the last changes that were made in 2023 and at the beginning of 2024,
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that is, in fact, if you put aside here these manipulations of orban, we understand that both polish and... romanian, bulgarian, zakar, hungarian national minorities, they are in ukraine, we are not discussing that now, we are discussing what we need, if you want checkers, or go, we need to insist that we have absolutely the right, reasonable legislation, which i absolutely agree with, by the way, i always asked another question, why people who protect the linguistic rights of hungarians in... the country, not understanding, if our hungarian citizens will not know the ukrainian language, they find themselves in certain-conditional ghetto and cannot compete on an equal footing with citizens of ukraine who study in ukrainian schools, but we are talking about the fact that we want to join the european union, or continue to defend our absolutely correct position if we want to join the european union, we will have
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to work with all these demands in different ways, reject some demands for international support. some demands to be adopted, some demands to be leveled, as i told you, but if we go the way of protecting justice, that's what you said, we did everything anyway and everything in ok, so we're doing what orbán wants us to do, because he wants us to just hang in the door of the european union for as long as possible, and he's going to really invent a million conditions to keep us, and that's absolutely obvious to me. the thing is, that’s the way... in fact, it’s a path, you don’t have to entertain illusions that we will enter this path today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, next year, but we are going fast, by the way, before the changes, we were going fast, so we were going, we were going quickly, but this path will not be as fast as possible anybody want a few minutes break and we're going to go back to another very interesting topic
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our tomorrow, watch the saturday politics club, every saturday on espresso. free political club, we are returning to the live broadcast, today we are talking with vitaly portnikov for two hours, discussing, discussing the most resonant and... important topics for our country, the debate between biden and trump, this is an equally important topic for the world and for ukraine as well, so that of the elections in the united states of america the fate of our country will also depend on it. mr. vitaly, we saw, the whole country, the whole world saw these debates, according to polls conducted by cnn. by the way, the channel that is closer to the democratic party, de facto, 67% of those people,
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again, who voted, they said that they think trump won this debate, and also there was an enscheus poll yesterday, according to these surveys of 60% of citizens. again, those who were interviewed, we can't say 100% how much it is the representative part, they said that it is worth replacing the candidate from the democratic party, and besides that, we also see all kinds of statements, statements from the editorial board of the new york times, from the speaker of the house of representatives mike johnson, we see this new cover. of the times magazine, time, where, biden is going, and relatively speaking, supposedly the democrats are in a panic, yes, and here are these statements, they are rushing like
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a snowball two days in a row, what this all shows, it really shows that biden has there are problems four months before the vote, i see polls. which 80% polls said that they did not change their priorities after the debate, yes, yes, such and such a poll also and i consider this to be an absolutely real answer to all questions, because it does not matter who thinks who won which debate, what if 80% or 40% of people said they had changed their minds about who they should vote for, we might think biden has a problem if 80% of people continue to think they will vote for trump or for. they are not interested in debate, which means that there is none the meaning of what will happen there. and if we are talking about those people who waver, who are undecided. we know very well that...
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in fact, it is not even about 80 or 90%. i am more than convinced that those voters who are confident in their candidates, they will vote, some for biden, others for trump, there is almost nothing to convince them, unless, if trump voters are not convinced by the fact that he is currently undergoing a dozen different criminal cases it's even more so if we are talking about the fact that in fact he has already been sentenced in a number of cases, or somewhere suitable. before the announcement of these verdicts, and still 90% of his voters say, well, we don't care, we don't care, yes, we want him, but we understand very well that there is still a small part of citizens, voters in the united states of america, these are the people who are either undecided or vacillating, and there are currently seven states that usually determine the er electoral process, ultimately determine the election results.
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can this debate influence the few percent of people who are now critical, because the chances of both candidates as of today are 50 by 50. no, the work of the candidates in these states will really affect the mood of these people. i want to remind you how george, how donald trump won against hillary clinton. he specifically dealt with those states in which the republicans could theoretically win. democrats, and hillary clinton did not deal with these states, because she was sure that these states were in her pocket, in one or two states in which she lost, she did not even come, because she was sure that she will definitely take them, given the electoral system of the united states states, the winner will be the one who accurately calculates in which states a problem may await. per
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candidate, that is, you need to take into account a simple equation, and here i don’t know how it will be, but this is really the number one issue: first, to work with voters in the so-called undecided states, and from the quality of the election campaign of biden and trump in these states will depend on how they vote, not on the debate, and understand which states are problematic for democrats in the data. specific situation, because again, if trump failed to take a few traditional democratic states in what year was it in 16 16, he would not have become the president of the usa, in 20 these states already voted for biden, this is the main problem, the topic
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of undefined states and the topic of ... unexpected states, that's the electoral equation, does the debate situation factor into that equation, no, first, this isn't the first debate, there will be more, second, by and large, all we 've seen in these debates is that that biden may be in serious physical condition, i honestly don't really understand what they are for they organized the debate, look, biden was on a european tour, then at a rally. his donors, he spoke everywhere, met, in normandy, the big seven, this rally is for fundraising, only recently, the truth is, why is it interesting, he and his advisers believe that an 81-year-old man should work like a 25-year-old guy, so we would you have such a pace of work, we would look happy at the debate, but... we
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are not 80 years old, but this is actually a person, yes, by the way, this person is still in the intervals between these trips, still working as the president of the united states states, which also daily stress is incredible, we saw a simple thing at these debates that trump is more energetic than biden, it is not a matter of age, they are the same age, let's imagine that trump wins the presidential election, how old will he be, when he will finish his term, well, for a year, even older 82 or 83 years old 82 83 when he will finish yes at the time of the elections he will be 82 at the time of the elections 79 and he will finish if he is elected he will be 83 83 yes well oh well well correct correct 83 i.e. not a boy either and we also don't know how it will be to look 81 years old, because this same aging happens faster.

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