we will show ours to the same trump, well, i remember when trump was in power, they poles even planned to name the base fort trump, well, it was already too much, they refused, somehow it was called differently there, but they were obviously following the same path of this country, i want to remind you, the poles also followed the same path as germany, who was the closest partner in europe? germany, most of the money for poland and everything to the government of the party of law and justice are problems, there are problems. i agree, but poland just brilliantly managed to get the maximum for maximum help, financial and everything to the factory, we just need to become poland, but you understand that if we become such a country with very close relations with the united states, then all the wonderful chinese investments that many dream of in ukraine will have to forget, very much either there or here, well, if you remember, some countries tried, there was 16 +1 or 18, then plus one. formats, someone there,

even normal big countries, like britain , went there, teresa bey went there herself, tried, they did all these tests, some tried to flirt with the great silk road, they sold their desks and so on and so forth, it doesn't work like that, china , unfortunately, has a lot of ideological problems directly related to finance, this is what everyone is doing, just the ones about those ideological gems that they offer us in the west, in principle coincides with our understanding and with the vision of our people, in which way we are ready to develop. there is a difference, but in principle we accept it all well, what is being proposed now by russia and china is also not suitable, we have already gone through it, in principle we are no longer interested in it, we are moving on, well, maybe another problem is that for russia we are a state with limited sovereignty, if it may not exist at all, and the chinese somehow calmly accept such a vision, they somehow, you know, somehow, at some stage , the chinese in principle accepted this, well, look, they will flirt even with belarus, however, they spend their political forces, their...

political capital, some resources there, attention to go to belarus, or to accept the dictator's bulb, that is, they are all equal they are looking for a partner, they looked at me now, it reminds me very much in miniature, we even had a north korean embassy here in the first years of independence, three for four years, you didn’t understand that you can’t cook porridge with us, it was in the early 90s, and they took away the embassy, ​​it remained only in moscow, here is approximately the same alternative, maybe china, the embassy will definitely not be reached, but it is obvious to the chinese that... we are moving along the same path as european countries are moving, and russia is not moving along this path , it remains for them as a partner, resource, political, for international politics, global, it is no longer so important, the main thing is that it remains a partner, we, everything we can, trade with them mutually beneficially, but we need to know where our border is political, beyond which we cannot to come, well again, how serious do you think it is to hope that china can play some role in the negotiation process between russia and ukraine and whether china really wants to play this role in general.

when he comes up with his proposals, china already has some kind of plan in contrast from trump, to be honest, i don't quite understand the infatuation with china, i myself once worked in the department of the asian region in the early 90s, when we thought that this was our salvation, economic, financial, everything else, it didn't work out that way, and i was, to be honest, somewhat surprised when we so actively started to make conditional investments, but you and i understand that if you invest in any development of the country, you will have to look. local solutions, that is, our way was much easier, for example, to visa-free, we knew that ukrainians want to travel abroad without a visa, yes, there was a long list, a list of requirements that had to be fulfilled, everything is very, very clear, china does not set such requirements at all, but russia has now begun to formulate them, but the number one requirement is that you do not have existed, well, it is very difficult to implement this demand, it is simply not implemented, with china we do not even have clear requirements with you, what they want, just like, by the way, here is the flag of india, as well as... it is simply not so aggressively

promotes its interests and in principle is not interested in us so much can trade, may not trade, well, katyazhe may also trade, may not trade, as far as i understand, in fact, our volume speaks about this, we do not have a stable and stable nomenclature of our trade, we have nothing, if we analyze our commodity groups of positions, we will see , that there are no unique positions without which they depend, well, conventionally, i don’t know any minerals, anything like that, there is no such thing here, in the worst years, when in our... our governments could not agree with the united states, always there was, for example, the issue of food security the americans always knew that as a guarantee of a stable existence on the planet, in particular, the ability to remind people all over the world, then they will not migrate, they will not raise rebellions in themselves, overthrow their regimes and everything else, it can remind a couple of countries, among them was ukraine, it was important to say that something is important to china from you and me, we do not even represent the market now, our labor force has become, well , at least from the chinese, that is, there is not

even any advantage here, if someone wanted from the chinese take a risk and try here to open their mass enterprises, this is also not happening, and we can say that from the point of view of food security, china also started from the beginning of this great war. to reorientate, so to speak, we were one of the most important partners of china, but that is no longer the case, as far as i understand it, first of all, even look, if you analyze the american agreement, few saw in it that there is a clause about , that we will keep a close eye on technology exports, particularly from a political point of view, that was our problem if you do you remember, guys, when there is no legislation that would allow us to stop private trade negotiations due to the fact that they violate certain of our ideological, political and other, we are only now approaching this, we americans are just tender somewhere there internally, the documents reminded of this, and this is another barrier to our interaction, for example, in sharing with china those technologies that until now, despite what they are doing, they lack, missile, aviation there are special materials and so on, that is, this is not them either

is very interested, well, that is, they would actually be interested in precisely what previously allowed to circumvent various american sanctions, let's say so and with - can we talk about what you know? our association agreement with the european union allows us to locate enterprises and trade duty-free with europe, but in fact, it seems to me that everything is much more prosaic, china is interested in our ability to be a problem for the west and russia, but the ability to maintain a low level of conflict here will allow china to solve its issues including with taiwan, shifting attention, creating precedents, creation of analogies, relaxation. the need to reach compromises, among which there will also be political compromises, this is a delicate game, especially since no one expects anything from china, well, what about them, if they will not supply anything to russia, then there will be no such special sanctions, well, there is a little sanctions, but it is possible to be calmer about it, it may not provide details for russia, and

all sanctions will eventually go away, well, in general, how interested is china in russia in this situation really getting there some serious advantage, or does he just want to cook it on... a slow fire, like a frog on the fire of this one, there is a very popular opinion in ukraine that russia is of interest to china only as a raw supplement, raw material, and if russia were to be destroyed , then join the parts, well, i think that it is possible that someone with particularly hot heads in beijing has such a vision, but in fact i think that everything is done much more simply, they do not want anything like that, especially russia’s loss, they do not want to invest too much in russia's victory is... they just don't have those resources, they have slightly different interests, but to have their partner, they are all there in the security council, and especially people like russia, again they understand that from a military point of view russia is a serious threat, china is not at the level of technology, especially with regard to mass impression, that is, in a war between

them, china still does not feel confident, and why not have the russians, well, at least, at least on their side, in principle, if... to return to the very idea of ​​the negotiation process, here you imagine the conduct the second peace summit with the participation of russia this year or even the next, what should happen for this, well, the key thing is what you said with the participation of russia, if we are clear, even in theory, that it is possible to gather, we say that the whole meaning of the second summit, what will be there russia, by the way, we didn't say this all the time, we started recently after the first, yes, all the time after the first summit, yes, yes, and before that we somehow, well , we saw for ourselves, do you remember what the idea was, that we would present like this, we we will offer such a platform, we will put them under such conditions that they will be forced to recognize the legitimacy of this platform and agree to its terms, not only that, but how it differs from the un, it is difficult to understand, it is also possible to sit in the un security council, no one invites to belgium and brussels to the table of the north atlantic alliance, but the un would be

sufficient for this, but there russia has the right to veto the security of the un, we don't have to, firstly, there are different formats, and secondly, it can use this formally, it is a platform for... negotiations, well, well, no questions, austria, switzerland, it does not have at all meaning, of course, if putin believes that he can achieve success and do everything he thinks, then it still makes no sense for him to eat for negotiations. we will see his readiness for minimal negotiations, not that he announces, because the list that he pulled out, well, it is obvious that he is just mocking us and is not going to do any negotiations. this is the same as offering nato to withdraw to the 1997 line. well, that's just not realistic. maybe someone with a weak mind will believe that he is looking for a compromise, but here. no compromises it is assumed, the only thing i understand is that we are forced, for the sake of the dynamics of our internal political process, to conduct such negotiations wave after wave about finding and finding a peaceful solution to this issue. and putin cannot simply raise the stakes in order to make his

negotiating position look more serious there, in real negotiations, whenever they start, to give in to some of his proposals. each country puts forward inviting positions, so-called, and every time they. obviously overpriced, but attractive when analyzing positions, he can roughly imagine where the real positions lie, well, if you discard, you know in statistics, if you discard the extreme one extreme, then the middle. can already work, the same position, for example, where ukraine must admit that zaporozhye will leave russia, this is obviously a position that we will never swallow, in their opinion we can swallow something simpler, well, i don't know what is there some political demands, but we have serious problems with you that we have to solve not only for the sake of future generations, that's right, it sounds good, but we have to decide right now, the war doesn't stop, if we want to stop it, then to be honest, it's dumb... and the korean option in the current situation, we can like it, not want it, but they are approaching us with the speed

of a steam locomotive, well, that's the same again, if russia agrees to the korean or german option, these options happened precisely because the soviet union agreed to them, that's right, but you remember how even the korean one developed, that was one way, then the other way, then again in one direction, landing in pusan, in a tiny bridgehead of the so-called uganan forces under the leadership of the united states, china. the so-called use of nuclear weapons, that is, there were stages, we actually have, you know, a very short reserve of mental energy, we suffer a lot from the fact that things are not developing in our direction now, and the war is, well , these are events, now it is, it will be better, there will be better management, there will be better resource provision, positions will be weakened, it will be in our favor if we eventually find a position when both sides are already fully will be blocked, and modern weapons are so new... that we don’t even have ukraine yet , no one knows what to do with half-planes, they are so new, it’s all the same

as the appearance of a tank on the first fields there somewhere near verdy, somewhere there, that is, it breaks so much that there is no recipe for how to act, if the parties are forced to take a break in order to find a recipe for how to act, there will automatically be a certain stop, but a certain stop is politically formalized in this case, not necessarily did not issue, there is not even a cease-fire agreement, and conflicts arose, remember, there were negotiating groups that were cut down by the so-called... worried, some submarines poisoned with full crews appear, some people are kidnapped, someone is shooting at someone, that is , unfortunately it is possible, it is not yet an israeli model, where people actually sit and everyone has a bomb shelter in their house, but on the streets of silo you can often see civilian patrols with machine guns, well, in israel there was a cease-fire agreement on the island of rhodes, i ’m calling, well, it was formally formalized in germany as well , but remember was formalized, then the soviet union began. communications around berlin itself, that is , digging there, trenching, cutting off the roads

is a process that did not stop for one day, i don't, i don't want to fidget, you know, the question is, we definitely need an agreement, no, just us, we need to stop the war, it is not necessary for us, if it is recorded, if someone needs it to be recorded, well, yes, it is good, it is important, but the main thing is to stop the war, but to stop the war, then without returning the territories, it means treason sociological expectations of citizens if... you will talk about it as a diplomat, and as a politician, they will tell you, look at sociology, we have to fight until we reach the state border, and even as a diplomat i am not calling to stop now and lose the territory, this is a discussion about the fact that we in fact, we should record that these are our territories, and like the baltics, which were never recognized as annexed by the soviet union, we should also wait until the political situation changes, we will not liberate the territories, this is a good idea, you can go that way, you can overestimate.. . you bet to say that we do not stop, this is an endless war, there were wars in europe for 100 years or more, yes, they were not

called wars, because it was such a traditional time to pass the time, just to fight a little, next year to fight, the dridds even had a calendar, where is it certain periods of war were foreseen, well , unfortunately, we will have to exist for a certain time in a situation of such continuous war, i know the concept that you are promoting, you believe that it will be cyclical, there will be periods when there will be less... more intensity, maybe some peaceful periods even, with by reducing and increasing certain periods , we will manage to produce something like this, a long peace, a short war, this is the middle east, cyclicality is the cyclicality of life, very similar to some kind of evolution by darwin or someone else, such an evolutionary development at each stage, why does the middle east live like this, it is not not korea and not germany, it's just the near east and i didn't make this up, this model just seems closer to you, the korean model seems closer to me, when the country continues to develop, the koreans tried, you remember they had sunshain policy, that is... how it is very poetic, sunlight or warmth, policy, they opened up, some

tourist groups drove, some enterprises invested, they made a free economic zone, they made an economic zone, they themselves got access to some mountain, which is important for them, for everyone, conditionally the kyiv lavra is there according to our standards, that is, they tried something, nothing happened, and now even the leader of north korea says: "no, we are all two different peoples." it is a danger that we may live to the moment when when the nations will become such that some leader there is conditional... says that we are different nations, this is a problem, the germans still have a hard time. thank you, mr. vadim, vadim prestay. we had him in the studio, we thank him for participating in the broadcast. literally for a few minutes, in order to inform you about the results of the first round of parliamentary elections in the french republic. tingling, numbness or crawling of ants in the limbs arise spontaneously and disturb you. a special complex of active substances is antineuro helps in normalizing the functioning of

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did not give up, because we knew that you... sit close, half the battle is knowing how hard it is to win, and we will do our best to embrace you sooner. therefore, when you are at home, when we are together, we are more than a family, we are a nation. which one united around you. we continue the politclub program on the spresso tv channel, vitaly portnikov is with you. so, 50 minutes ago exit polls appeared in

the french parliamentary elections, as expected, the first place according to the results of these parliamentary elections is marine le pen's party (the far-right party, the national association that recently won the french part of the elections) for the european parliament, she has 34.2%. votes of the french, in second place the left, it is a union of all left-wing parties, it is now called new a popular front based on the model of the popular front created in france before the second world war, by the way, 29% of the votes for the left were given by the voters, 21%5 votes were received by the party of president macron's revival and its allies. 10% of the french voted for the republican party, it is a right-wing party, part of which wants an alliance with the far-right,

part does not, the turnout was 69%, what does this mean now, it means nothing, it only means that we confirmed the electoral trends, but the main thing in france the second round, why, then, the elected... only that deputy in the first round, for which more than 50% of voters voted, there are very few such people, well, among them, by the way, is marine le pen, who has already been elected as a member of the french national assembly from her party, but she is very popular among the far-right, well, it is clear, she is a charismatic leader, and by the way, she is not even going to be prime minister because she wants to be president of france, she has already run for office twice, lost to jacques cherac, lost to français. macron wants to win the next election, and she is crazy political activism usually develops, you know, and even slightly changes its positions from

the extreme right to the more moderate right, and this also applies to the support of ukraine, it was elected, then, if there are not more than 50% of the votes, then no one is elected, there will be a second round in a week , in the second round, this also distinguishes the french. voting system from any other in europe, those candidates who scored, it seems, more than 20% of the voters' votes in the first round, that is, there may not be two, three , or even four of them. as a rule, these are triangles, triangles, because it is difficult to get, as you understand, four people, more than 20% of the votes, and in this second round everything will be decided, mostly. the majority of candidates for the post of deputy of the national assembly of france will be elected in the second round, what does this mean? this means mobilization, that is how

françois hollande, emmanuel macron, and before that jacques chirac won, presidential elections in france through mobilization, representatives of all political forces, not the extreme right, voted for one candidate. in the second round, so that no to allow the far right of the french president, and so the very unpopular jacques chirac was elected as a friend of the president of the french republic, because the people did not want to allow jean-marie le pen into the seat during the second term of charac. will it be so now? it's hard to say to the end. the left is now calling for all third-place candidates to drop out. that representatives of either macron's party or the republicans enter parliament, and to stop the far-right in any case.

perhaps it will also offer its own candidates of emmanuel macron, but it is difficult to say, because the left has a rather cool attitude towards the current french president, and he has an even worse relationship with them than with. right-wing, but in theory it should have been like this, all non -ultra-right formations in france should withdraw their candidates, the third, and support the second, so that the ultra-right candidate would remain outside the parliament, and in this way these 30% would turn into gulkin's nose, but it can't be be why republicans have already called on their supporters to vote freely. we we believe in the conscience of the french and do not believe that we can decide for them who they will vote for. i believe that no

candidate has the votes of people who... trust him, said member of the european parliament francois xavier bellamy, he is a member of the republicans in the european parliament. thus, this is a new situation, when there is no precise understanding of how the republican representatives will vote. in the second round of elections to the national assembly, will such a large anti-law front be created, which is always the case stopped the far-right on the way to power, this is also a very important thing to say, what will happen if it fails... to stop

this far-right wave, then most likely the far-right will have to form its own government, many say that reckons emmanuel macron, he would like the far-right to form their own government, to drown in all these huge economic problems that france has, and the president ... removed from solving these problems, would look like a model of stability, but i have serious doubts because many french people are now simply angry with emmanuel macron for starting this process in the first place, thus depriving them of a few more years of quiet life, while marine le pen's party was in clear opposition in the french national assembly, and as much as macron

can to be a role model... stability is hard to say, but in a situation where the economic problems in france will only get worse every day, and ordinary french people will associate it with the far-right government, of course marine le pen will be out of her dream again, she will not win the presidential elections in three years, but some other person will win, but it may not necessarily be the candidate of emmanuel macron, who, but it may again be a representative of the left forces, as it was before macron, we remember we know that the last president before macron was a socialist, françois hollande, it was who, and now he is running for the national assembly of the french republic, fierce opposition, the deputy of the national assembly since 2017, the leader of the communist party of france fabien roussel, this party is one from the leading forces of the new people's front, announced that he had lost the elections to

the national assembly... to the representative of the ultra-right national union of the marine le pen party, guillaume florquin, this is a symbolic victory for the marine le pen party, now also in the first round, such things, of course , they destabilize, the leader of one of the main political parties of the left, will not be a member of the national assembly, because he was knocked out by the far right, perhaps just such situations will force the left to be more careful. to what will happen this week and to create such a united, consolidated list of anti-anti-ultra-right candidates, but for this the left forces of the french republic and the french president emmanuel macron and his supporters from the revival party and other centrist forces will have to somewhat reduce the antipathy, which is very strong in them,

as far as will they succeed? we will see already in the coming hours of this post-election night, i think all the main statements will be made and this week will be, i would say, decisive in the political history of france and decisive for our support also of the french republic, as you understand, marie lippin has already said that if her party wins , there will be no french troops in ukraine, this is a principled statement, as you understand, thank you, thank you for being with us, stay tuned to express tv channels, stay with our news and programs, and i will say goodbye to you until the next meetings, may... victory and peace be with you, friends, this is close to politics, close to the world, maria gurska, journalist of the ukrainian tv channel espresso and editor-in-chief of the sister portal eu, we are talking to the chairman of the foreign affairs committee of the polish sejm and the chairman of the cooperation council.