all these negotiations have the following plot, which is important to both of them: troops for money, maybe a conflict with south korea for money, putin is going to pay for all this, the question arises, with what, this is already a good question, but this is such a story, and do we we can consider the participation of the north korean military directly in hostilities against ukraine, this can be, well, conditionally speaking, not meat, but they are now using part of the russians as cannon fodder, but let's suppose, in order to preserve some part there russians, or at least in order to replenish the losses that we see every day, in fact, the losses of the russians there are more than 500 thousand, 541 thousand, as of today, can they use 10 thousand, 20, 50. if

necessary, 100, perhaps, in order, relatively speaking, to use them in assaults, in meat assaults, so-called, which take place almost every day on the front line. well, there are two options here, or they will be participants in hostilities, but i think that this is also a very risky story for kimchin, because it could lead to increased sanctions policy, not from the point of view of the un security council, but from the point of view of other states there, to increase isolation, or... these troops will formally perform non-combat functions, again, giving the russians the opportunity to free up some time, and by the way , this could be such an idea as a response to the proposal of french president emmanuel macron, think in this direction, emmanuel macron said that nato troops can be present on ukrainian territory, but for non-combat operations, remember, that is demining, engineering works. all this after he

proposed it, as it always happens in the west, a long and so far fruitless discussion began, and even this coalition of instructors that the french president was going to create, it is not working yet, i think macron is busy now first of all, the extraordinary parliamentary elections in the country, we will talk about it tomorrow, in particular in the politclub program, we will talk about it on the espresso tv channel, also about the results of the first one. these elections, but while macron is proposing it, putin is simply doing it differently, he shows once again that his allies , unlike the west, do not think, well, the west is thinking of allowing ukraine to fire on the territory of the russian federation, how many kilometers deep, how much to do it and so on, but the west is with it, only now in the end agreed to the possibility of...

such strikes, and iran and north korea never asked, did they, what do they do with their weapons? we saw the iranian shaheds literally as soon as they began to join the armed forces of the russian federation in the whole territory of ukraine, they didn't even talk, let's use only the border lanes? no, it's the same with north korea, no questions will be asked, and this is such a demonstration that dictatorships, unlike democracies, easily overcome any. red lines, we have to take a break, literally three minutes pause, and we'll be back with this topic, the next topics, don't switch. suffering from heartburn? i recommend isoto, isoto interacts with the acid in the stomach leading to less heartburn symptoms, your water if it bothers you heartburn, there are discounts. present books for

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details on the official pages of the sbu. saturday political club direct ether, we are back. let's hide, today, i remind you, we have two hours of communication with vitaly portnikov, we discuss, discuss, analyze, well, we return to our actual military such block of today's saturday political club, we still have one very interesting issue that needs to be discussed and needs to be discussed, and it concerns the possibility of transferring ukraine to the eight patriot systems that are now owned by israel and ... that israel uses, but which it already does not seem to use , he wrote them off, if i am not mistaken, they are 30 years old, and they are in israel, but not for the armed forces, it is quite possible, and the united states of america is now conducting a

diplomatic, political discussion with israel, precisely in order to these patriots setup, of which there are eight, at least up to eight. pieces to transfer them to ukraine, i repeat once again, the issue is that they are 30 years old, they are either practically not used, or not used at all, but they can be modernized, so that they can be, like any which, any american weapon, modernize, repair, adapt to modern realities, give them the opportunity to use various computer technologies there. mr. vitaly, this is a large number, this is a large number, this is essentially what we are talking about ukraine asked for seven patriot installations, well at least seven, in order to close such key cities, key facilities, we have now

received two or three installations, well, units on units are now being trained by our military, and if we talk about this possibility, it real and what... a time perspective, i think that if they talk about it in the media, then it is absolutely already real, if it were unreal, information about it would not have appeared, secondly, if it -firstly, secondly, if this happens, it is by and large a serious change in the policy of israel itself, because you remember that from the first days of this war, israel, fearing russia's reaction and possible destabilization of the situation on the syrian front, was tentative. tried to be very careful precisely from the point of view of supplying weapons to ukraine, humanitarian aid yes, hospitals, doctors, political support, yes, but not weapons, and it was tough enough, and you know that the prime minister of israel and navtali benet, and

benjamin netanyahu with the exception of tomi lapid, by the way, these were the people who continued yair lapid, sorry, to communicate with volodymyr putin, they had contacts, well , the truth is navtaliy beneta, volodymyr zelensky himself... to speak with such a mediating mission, but no one asked betanyakh, he communicated with putin not very, i would say in such pleasant tones, but he spoke with him during this great war in the middle east, which began after october 7 of last year. so, if the israeli government agrees to provide these installations, it means that they have already understood that russia is no longer their security partner in the middle east, even conditionally, because what were they afraid of anyway? let's say that the russians will close the syrian sky and thus make it impossible for the defense army of israel or will create unnecessary problems for the destruction of certain objects on the syrian territory of the radical syrian groups and the iranian object. you remember that israel

destroyed one of the facilities in damascus, which was located next to the iranian embassy in syria, where one of the main saboteurs from the so-called islamic revolutionary guard corps, a known terrorist, was killed. but now it became clear that russia will still not agree on anything else, that it can no longer be counted on, because it is not counted on israel, and this is very important, you understand , the moment is related to what is happening in the middle east and israel's position, but let's let's look carefully at the position of ukraine, this also needs to be sorted out, maybe you remember that when there was a topic about the visit of volodymyr zelensky to jerusalem after october 7, i was a strong supporter of this visit and said that it is not so much needed by israel as by us, for us to show it... to the so-called world, that we are in the same situation, so to speak, that we are in the same boat, that israel

was attacked by a terrorist organization, we were attacked by a terrorist state, and the americans were very eager for this at first, but netanyahu, he was in no hurry then zelenskyi's visit, because he was again afraid of the russian reaction, and then zelenskyi himself was in no hurry to go, and statements began here that we do not need to go to israel in such a situation, when the countries of the global south are impressed by him, they will be with us in difficult relations, and i remember that one of my colleagues even wrote an article in which he said that zelensky, as an ethnic jew, has such emotions that are beginning to prevail over the national interests of ukraine, and i was very surprised by this, and now i have a good question for all these, to put it mildly, unprofessional people in the ukrainian so -called international media. in the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, in the office of the president, what do we need at all, weapons from

the patriot system or beautiful photos for the peace forums, who will give us weapons at all to give, antigua barbuda, venezuela, bahrain, qatar, oman, it’s great, they came, their leaders took a picture with... volodymyr zelenskyi shook his hand, everything is fine, but what do we need so that our infrastructure is not destroyed, we don’t shake hands for security, we exchange a handshake for a beautiful communiqué, which in itself means nothing from the point of view of the possibility of ending the russian-ukrainian war in the coming years. then the question arises, what do we need besides these beautiful photos with the president of ukraine. in the center, although i say again, i always said, you too can testify to this, that the peace summit is diplomatically a very good

thing, diplomatically, but ukraine can win only one way, with weapons and money, weapons and money, this is the most important the moment we always have to talk about, and we have to build relations with countries that can give us weapons and money, some documents in which... 150 countries of the world would certify our support, we simply do not need them, because these countries will testify to us support even when ukraine will no longer be real on the political map of the world, when all its territory will be occupied by russians, and then the president of the exiled government of ukraine, let even volodymyr zelenskyy come to the un and everyone will applaud him, he will welcome everyone and everyone will vote for the fact that ukraine should... restore its territorial integrity, he will have an office somewhere on fifth avenue. why is this necessary,

why is it brought to this point? and by the way, it was the same with many countries of the world, well, they had international support. well, by the way a fine middle eastern example, palestine. we even have an embassy in ivan fedorov, there is an ambassador, he feels very well, goes to some diplomatic meetings. the palestinian so-called president mahmoud abbas decides whether to go to the peace summit or not, he did not come, only there is no palestine, and it may not arise, and most of the member states of the united nations organization, this non-existent virtual palestine, which residents of its arab part failed to create after the famous un resolution in 1848 year, they receive the full support of the majority, so what if there is no real political solution, it doesn't matter to anyone... the embassy doesn't bypass it, it's just such beautiful people, they created an embassy for themselves, put an ambassador there, some other person got

a job abroad, moved the family, feels great, receives a salary from the funds of the united nations organization, and there is no state, because it cannot be created, we do not want to be in such a situation, so it is more important to us, how is it not surprising sounds, maybe for many, installation patriot, huh, and that's why we need countries that are... allies of the west, they are not completely the west itself, israel is almost the west in principle, but still it is not a member of nato, yes, there is south korea , this is really a country that is an ally. states, there is the philippines, the president of ukraine visited the philippines with president ferdinand marquez jr. before the peace summit, i think it is more important than the peace summit, i will be honest, because it is another ally of the united states, which has weapons that it can and can produce, which can restrain some interests, you can mention a number of such states, south korea is

also for us, we know, they used it to buy weapons, supply us, now it is ready, maybe directly. even supply, here is the reality, those countries that can give us money and weapons are those countries with which we have to develop relations, all other countries, as they say, the author of baron munchausen once said, england can wait, antigua and barbuda can wait, venezuela can wait, qatar by maman can wait, all of them can wait, of course, if these countries participate in release' our prisoners of war, this is also an important part of our track, it must be said that people who use the opportunities of these countries for such mediocrity, but this is just an exchange, here the russians are also interested, it is important, you see, even holy see, nariman djemali, the deputy chairman of the mejlis of the crimean tatar people, was released yesterday. by the way, i want to

sincerely congratulate all our crimean tatar friends on the release of other civilians. who were in russian prisons and republic of belarus, this is through the mediation of the holy see, that is, the pope may have a political position that we do not like very much in the assessment of the war, but this position helps precisely in such humanitarian matters, this is important, the energy of these countries can be used precisely with such a goal, but again, in order for people who are in prisons in russia and belarus to return somewhere, it is necessary... for there to be a state where they could return, this is initially, and the state can be preserved only by closing the sky, to build up the armed forces, to produce weapons, to exploit russia, this is the task for the next decades, that's all, by the way, at this very moment there is an air alarm sounding in the north, in the center of our country, in the east of our

country, in kyiv, that is, this once again reminds us of what is very important... to have air defense systems, anti-missile defense systems, to cover our skies in all possible ways, and what we are saying is extremely important, so that in ukraine had, ukraine had all the necessary weapons from our international partners, what are we talking about, this is the last question, probably in this block, regarding these statements and regarding the position of ukraine, recently the president of ukraine, volodymyr'. stated that ukraine actually supports the existence of two states: israel and palestine, right? that is, such a statement was made about, well, two weeks ago. so, mr. vitaly, if we are talking about this, whether such statements of the ukrainian

leadership are correct, the eastern issue should be resolved by creating two states, about this says biden and the leaders of the countries of the european union, this is just a western position, the president of ukraine does not express any such special position, different from the position of our allies, so this position may not be liked by many people in israel, huh, because there are people there who believe that the creation of a second state on the territory of the former mandatory palestine, this is wrong, by the way, these are usually representatives of right-wing political forces, and this is part of it. internal political struggle in israel itself, how to solve this issue, but at the same time, you and i are well aware that there is an international position, it is that there will be a real opportunity

to resolve the middle east conflict when two states emerge, each of which ... will recognize the right another for the existence, now, as you know, there are organizations that support, certain sentiments among the population of the so-called palestinian authority, well, why does the so-called palestinian authority exist, the palestinian authority enjoys their support, such as hamas organizations, they deny the right israel's existence, it must always be remembered that mostly... the majority of the inhabitants of the palestinian authority deny israel the right to exist, we forget this factor, very often, we reduce everything to the israeli internal political struggle, but still palestinian. a story that, in principle, has not yet come out that the vast majority of people who live in the west bank, in the gas sector, they agree with israel's right to

exist, but that's another story, it's a middle eastern story, about the president's statement ukraine, i don't see anything that differs from the position of the united states of the european union, because everyone says all the time that we need to create conditions for two states, peaceful life, coexistence. but again, in order for this to happen, these conditions must be created, so far they do not even exist in nature. and you remember, after october 7, for reasons that are completely incomprehensible to me, many people said: "now, after this story , a situation is really arising due to the fact that sooner after all, a palestinian state will emerge, because this is what happened, this is a clear , clear demonstration that a palestinian state should really be declared. well, i stopped talking about it, it’s true, because if and about which state it is possible to talk

about which territory, when they have not even been able to agree on a ceasefire for several months in a row and on the release of hostages, and it became clear to everyone that the very idea of ​​the emergence palestinian state, even if a few new countries of the world appeared that recognized it, this is an absolutely virtual issue and on... october 7 , 2023, not only did it put the issue of this state in the background, but it may even put an end to the coming years in discussions on this topic. let's put an end to these topics and move on to the next ones. i think that we should talk about european integration, about euro-atlantic integration. the summit in the european union was held this week, and has actually begun. languages ​​between ukraine and the european union, in the near future , a large summit of nato states will be held, where they will also

discuss ukraine, our format, not accession, but further cooperation, accession will also be discussed, well, in general, but if we are talking about european integration, many call it. this day, when the negotiations actually started, is historic, in reality this day is more of a legal date, since the negotiations will last more than one year, and even ukrainian senior officials say that it will be at least the year 2029, someone is talking about the year 2030, that is , another 5-6 years, but it is clear that for this we still need to carry out a huge number of reforms, to muniify ukrainian legislation in accordance with the legislation of the european union, it is possible to discuss various topics regarding protection of national

producers, and to pass, including those obstacles that are called hungary in our country, right? hungary also made 11 demands to ukraine, some demands are called absolutely unacceptable, well, we will also talk about this... let's probably start with this of this date, what we have to do in the next 5 years in order to really become a member of the eu, well, in addition to certain technical things, well, and the second question, to what extent or what date do you consider more realistic, more acceptable from the point of view of our realities regarding the accession of ukraine to the european union, well... the first question, the first thing we have to do is to end the war, if the war continues on ukrainian territory, there will simply be negotiations on joining the european union, but there will be no accession, so let's do it again not

we will live in illusions that we can fight and be members of the eu at the same time , there can be no war on the territory of the eu, and joining the eu will, in principle, be a confirmation of the fact that, by and large, we are unlikely to have any. some real possibility to end the war there very quickly and to end it so that the europeans have no doubt that it will not start again, this is not a question of european, but of euro-atlantic integration, one, two, we will need to really close chapter by chapter in these negotiations , and if you have seen here are all these documents about the accession of other countries to the european union, there is simply a whole list of laws that need to be adopted. and when the national parliament passes these laws, then this section is considered closed, but it is not only from the european side, it is also from

our side, because we have to pay attention. to certain points that the european union will propose, and let's say this, the easier we will give up our own interests in favor of the european union's proposal, and the faster we will give up the interests of our own economy, the sooner we join the european union, the more seriously and professionally we will protect our interests, the longer we will join, there are simply countries that joined quickly because they already had unified legislation. and they did not need to talk about much, and there were countries such as poland, which fought very seriously for the interests of their agriculture, as we can see, they are still fighting, yes, yes, well, with the european union, given that we countries with large agriculture so far, i think that it will also be difficult for us, so this is the second such moment, the third moment, this is negotiations with

specific states that can... at any moment block our entry into the european union, negotiations on accession. and you mentioned hungary. well, by the way, it must be said that hungary is still behaving very intelligently. i can remind you about another country, north macedonia. north macedonia, first greece and then bulgaria, were not given a chance. to start the negotiations themselves, and none of these countries could convince. the process of negotiations with north macedonia never started. greece initially demanded that north macedonia, then simply the republic of macedonia, change its name. after the governments of greece and macedonia reached those agreements, this new constitutional name appeared, north macedonia, then at that moment...

a new story arose with completely unexpected bulgarian claims, claims of a historical nature. ugh. bulgarians began to demand constitutional changes in macedonia in order for this country to recognize its existence of the bulgarian minority and the bulgarian historical heritage and everything else, which by and large is to a certain extent, well, how do you explain it, virtual. why? because from a historical point of view, i would say. in reality , either the entire population of north macedonia can be considered bulgarians, as the bulgarians do, by the way, or no one, because it cannot be, if you believe that it is all one people, you cannot demand from this one people that it is some group of people , which still needs to be found, was considered part of the bulgarian ethnic group in the territory of macedonia, and it is generally like you you see, the question is completely strange from

the point of view of european standards, because... if they are on the territory of north macedonia, but bulgaria definitely cannot demand changes in the macedonian constitution, and it demands, and not knowing that other states are members of the european of the union sought a compromise, because this compromise was proposed by france regarding constitutional changes in north macedonia, these constitutional changes have not yet taken place, instead macedonians, who feel deeply offended and, by the way, this may be waiting for us. they voted for the radicals the national parties who now say that they do not want to talk about this with bulgaria, do not want any changes to the constitution, and this means that these negotiations will not start again, and we can basically end up in a completely similar situation, the only difference is therefore, fortunately for us, i don't know what will happen with the claims of other countries, our problem, our hope in general for... the ambition of viktor

orbán, but viktor orbán has a much better idea of ​​himself than any other prime minister minister or president of bulgaria, about his role in the world. why? you mentioned these viktor orbán's 11 demands, together with these, viktor orbán will head the country tomorrow, which the day after tomorrow, which becomes the chairman of the european union, and information has already appeared in the online edition of european truth that he will allegedly visit kyiv next week. kyiv will be the first capital that he visits as the person presiding over the eu, despite the fact that he has not yet come here, however, he has not been here, never after the big attack, he was in moscow before the big attack, remember do you know? and why is this so, and because if viktor orban is not has time to jump into this boat, then george maloney will not take his party into their faction.