have to put them in place, which would be good for the international community, then a scenario of some mutual progress, what they might be, will be included , it is difficult to say at the moment, there can be a lot of scenarios, so i think that the selected scenario should be waited until the end of the year, not published details, but to talk about general images, about the general framework, because by the end of the year it will become clearer, the situation on the battlefield with the elections and so on will be clearer, until then we have to occupy the waiting room. strategy, repel enemy attacks and in principle try to unite as many states as possible to the position that russia must necessarily make concessions, and it must be forced to do so, and the question is the limit of these concessions, the limit, how far the west is ready to go, how to support and so on, it remains open, so there are quite a lot of unknowns in this, but let's say this... recently

various scenarios have been quite actively written and discussed, indicating that some searches are underway, but what scenario will it be, so far it is very difficult to say, are there any examples at all hypothetically, how can you see it, or the mediators, they are really capable, even if they are not from the western countries, the usual ones, they are really capable of somehow establishing a dialogue or forcing russia to actually stop the war there, to stop fighting there, or is it just yes... any interim results and arrangements for there to release there from au for example? well, mediators are needed, of course, because we directly, i directly do not imagine negotiations with russia now, but frankly, no way, so if we were to say something, it would be on a separate point, moreover, i think that if something is to be discussed, then on the example of the grain initiative, which, by the way, russia has violated, i want to remind you that it is simply so important to understand, and some individual points, some...

concern the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant , which relate in the future to the exchange of prisoners, which relate, for example, in the future, let's say, to the fact that russia may not attack some energy facilities in exchange for the fact that ukraine will not strike the refinery and so on and so forth. here , through intermediaries, i see something, but this, you know, it's the individual elements, as far as i can see, but... it's not something that can lead to an exact ceasefire or a regime, much less a lasting peace. in addition, it is necessary to understand the mediator's tasks, functions, when they talk about a ceasefire, about some achievements, who will control it, how to ensure it? there are a lot of questions today, and there are many more of them than there are answers, so i would still advise you to watch the situation on the battlefield, the situation around ukraine, the elections in...

britain, although britain does not think that anything bad for us will happen there, the us, that is what will influence, russia will also wait, i do not think that they will be ready before these results and before the beginning of next year to consider the possibility of any what a serious dialogue. thank you, thank you, oleksandr, for joining in and sharing your opinion . oleksandr musienko, head of the center for civil and legal studies, was a guest of svoboda ranok. well, we will continue to talk about the also announced topic of our broadcast, you can write your own in the comments thoughts on possible negotiations, in what format do you think it could be and what compromises are acceptable for you, well, then we will talk about the situation on the ukrainian border, that is, on bukovyna, the border guards were attacked by two men with weapons, one of the attackers the military shot, another was wounded, the incident happened on the border. of ukraine and romania in the chernivtsi

region. this information was reported by local journalists and media. the state border service confirmed to the public that the attackers cold weapons and gas canisters were used. the men did not meet the legal requirements of the border outfit. border guards had to use firearms after warning shots. violators were shot because they used gas canisters and cold weapons against the border guard. local journalist vitaly glagola writes that the attackers used machetes. the dpsu says that the incident has been reported to the sbi, the police and the prosecutor's office. well, the border guards continue to detain buses with men who are trying to illegally cross the state border. one such vehicle was stopped the day before 200 m from the border between ukraine and hungary. this was reported by the western regional department of the state border service of ukraine. there was a volkswagen minibus. 17

men of different ages, all of them from different regions: kyiv, lviv, odesa, kharkiv, ternopil, ivano-frankivsk, and zakarpattia, were to pay between three and 12 thousand us dollars for remelting services, according to... the border service. on detainees made protocols on administrative offenses and border guards regularly report attempts to cross the border illegally. just last year, border guards detained about 8,000 men who tried to cross the border outside checkpoints, according to the state border service. so, we will talk about the details further. andriy demchenko, spokesperson. of the state border service of ukraine joined our broadcast. i congratulate mr. andriy. thank you for joining. glory to ukraine. to the heroes. glory. good morning. i want to start with shootings on the border. can you tell me who these attackers are, who they were, what the story is, what weapons they had, if

they were really soaked. what are the circumstances? well, actually, the investigation into this situation is currently being conducted by the state bureau of investigation, which will be able to inform. more details when possible, but i can confirm that this incident took place at the border, an attack on a border outfit, it happened on saturday after 21:00, our serviceman noticed two unknown people following in the direction border, during the detention or stopping of these violators, they actually attacked the servicemen... of the state border service, using certain means, including gas canisters and cold weapons, and considering that the serviceman was forced to save his life, he also used his service weapon, as a result of which

one attacker was injured and the other died, an ambulance was immediately called to the scene, in order to provide, including the necessary medical assistance. to these men but once again, one of them died on the spot, law enforcement agencies were also informed, including the state bureau of investigation, the national police, the prosecutor's office, and who said that an investigation is currently underway, whether there were warning shots, how did this situation develop, or it was the motive, according to your information, to immediately attack the border guards, how those people reacted. who are the attackers, what did they want and why there, or how did they behave, or really aggressively, why did they start attacking? well, actually, attempts to cross the border illegally, they occur daily, and the number of violators trying

to cross the border is quite large, if we compare it with such cases before the introduction of martial law, because after february 24, the number of attempts increased significantly along the entire length of our border and on the border with countries of the european union and on the border with moldova, and in the recent period we can say that we see such and greater audacity of actions, both by the organizers of criminal groups who try to transport people there in such large groups, and the actions themselves violators themselves in relation to military personnel. of the state border service, some try to flee when the border guards expose them, some try to resist, some attack, so our servicemen act within the limits of their rights and powers, and i will note once again that

the life of a serviceman who protects the border in the west is just as priceless , as well as the lives of our servicemen who fight on the front line. ah... there will be an internal investigation into, for example, whether there was an abuse of authority, on the other hand, maybe there there were fewer border guards at that place than there should have been in order to protect the border more, that is, will there be any detailed investigation, because yes, you report that every day there are attempts to cross the border illegally, but that there was shooting and more and death, you must agree, does not happen so often, yes, but if a soldier of the state border service is attacked, he cannot stand. to expect when his own life will be taken away by those who try to cross the border illegally or in general to commit illegal actions in relation to him, but in every case, including when warning

shots are fired to stop violators, of course the necessary check is carried out, if weapons are used by our servicemen, a criminal case is opened. it is being investigated by the prosecutor's office, other law enforcement agencies, which also evaluate the actions of the state border guard servicemen, and the investigation at the border detachment level, it is also, of course, present in order to to analyze in detail the case that, or this case, or other cases that were directly on the border line, and the actions that our servicemen took, as far as they correspond to the law, let's talk about the illegal crossing of the border, and let's try to go into detail , or to generalize on the contrary, are there already calculations of how many per... this year, six months have actually passed, attempts to cross

the border illegally have been recorded, let's just answer that i will either remind or emphasize that, unfortunately, such cases occur daily, on certain days there may be more of them, on other days there may be fewer of them, but what is constant is that violators try to cross the border illegally every day, as a rule. they follow either singly or in small groups, but i just said that in the last period we have noticed such audacity in the actions of organized criminal groups, which try to bring these violators to the border in such large groups, more than 40 people, about 20 of them moved by various types of vehicles, or minibuses, or even by trucks, when i recall the incident. when in the odesa region a group

of people who were being transported towards the border were found in a grain truck, there were about 40 violators in the trailer of a truck, and there are also attempts to break through the border with trucks that transport these people, and actually our actions are also are aimed at in order to... timely expose such attempts, expose schemes, expose organizers, expose guides who promise people assistance in illegal border crossing, take money for it, well, but the regret is also that they themselves violators, they actually, instead of supporting ukraine, ukraine, supporting the defense forces of our state, they are ready to enrich criminality by paying them enough. large sums, in this case, which you mentioned, the amounts ranged from there,

from 3x to 12,000 dollars, another case in odesa region, when 47 violators were detained, who were moved by the organizers, individuals, in general, paid more than 18 thousand dollars for helping them cross the border illegally, so while there will be such cases, while... of course, the border guards will continue all necessary actions, both on the border line and in the border areas, in order to identify violators and detain them. andrii, can you clarify the numbers, because from three to 12 thousand, you say, there may be even more, it is an individual escort that costs more than your information, but when everyone is put on the bus like this, it costs less, well, it is difficult say, because the individuals who paid. over $18,000, that's $18,500 they paid these organizers, they followed to the border

together with the other participants of that large group of 47 people, so in fact, as the organizers manage to agree with the violators on the amount for which they will leave, that is what they demand from them, if they see that a person is ready to pay $18,00, they actually uh... this amount is announced, someone can pay less, accordingly they agree to a smaller one, but i will note once again that the pity is that it is people who are ready to enrich and enrich criminality, and not to support ukraine in general. andrii, very briefly on the final, and what percentage of these attempts are successful, because the further you go, the more stories appear when a neighbor disappeared somewhere or the whole family then leaves for him, well, that is , in reality, people disappear in this way, and then it turns out that that they are in other countries of the world. those cases regarding the detention

of violators beyond the line of our border can only be evaluated by those countries to which the violators managed to reach, of course we do not hide the fact that individual citizens still manage to do it, because i note once again that the border line, it enough long, and the number of attempts has increased significantly, especially since ... violators are assisted, including by local people who know the area well to help them cross the border illegally. but there are joint actions between the border guards of ukraine and the border guards, that is , only those countries through which these ukrainians get to them can provide any specific figures. thank you, mr. andriy, for joining, andriy demchenko, spokesperson of the state border service of ukraine, was a guest of svoboda ranok. join the of our broadcasts every weekday from 9:00 a.m. on the

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the same consumable material as shells, the enemy must be hit around the clock, but we remember that for one... sometimes you need several drones, there are such targets, the military also say that sometimes there are no drones on them it's a pity, because it's worth it, so you understand, it's up to us now, it must be done quickly, if you have the opportunity to donate 10 hryvnias 20, please do it, on these hot summer days in the capital of romania, bucharest, the osce parliamentary assembly is taking place, and it will last until july 3. today we know that our delegation is present there, we know that we even have the first such good news there, yesterday we all rejoiced because the osce parliamentary assembly adopted a very important resolution, we actually already know that for many years, and for the last two or more years,

unfortunately, we are convinced of this, so we adopted a resolution recognizing the actions of russia. genocide of the ukrainian people, in fact, this document also defines the decolonization of russia of the russian federation, which is a necessary prerequisite for a strong and reliable peace to be finally established. this is a very important document, we will talk a lot about it today and not only. decolonization is one of the points of this resolution, and there is also the need to create a special tribunal to... investigate all war crimes committed during 10 years of war, as stated in the document, all of europe absolutely, as they say, from portugal to... luhansk should know about these crimes now already from this resolution and everyone knows about the ten-year war, it is written down now in

the documents, now we will understand more whether this special tribunal is still separate from the one we talked about, the criminal court that works in the hague and the un criminal court, or whether these will be joint processes, but all crimes will have to be investigated, what about military and violation of all conventions, as well as... regarding the peaceful ukrainian population, all this is defined in this resolution, except for one, which includes the concept of decolonization, does it provide for the freedom of the colonized almost two hundred peoples who make up the so-called temporary formations called russian federation. also, a very important point in this document is that 53, all 53 osce participating countries said that it is necessary to do everything to de-occupy crimea, because we remember that sometimes there were some such strange maps on which crimea was marked as russia, was at the osce parliamentary assembly,

people's deputy nataliya pipa in contact with our studio, mrs. natalya, congratulations, glory to ukraine, good day, hero, tell me how it was before the adoption of the resolution and all the decisions, what were the delegates talking about? i will say right away that we are a member of the osce, i will go to the human rights committee in a few minutes, they have just now prepared, and what was in the resolution, the resolution contained important points that we mentioned about prisoners of war, and in general that ukrainian resolution in fully accepted, it is very important, i will immediately agree that the german delegation proposed an amendment concerning the use of gas by other countries, it is very useful when they included it. but on the other hand, the german delegation also had a much softer wording of the peace formula, it called it not a plan, but a proposal, they spoke of more optical plans, that is, in fact,

i must say that the votes in the hall are 57 countries in total, russia is not present and belarus, i.e. 55, but they voted as if some people did not speak, others spoke, and those who spoke in favor of the wording requested by ukraine was 38, and those who were against, i.e. what germany requested was... 36, i.e. the gap in votes was actually small, i.e. there are significantly more delegates, but not all must be delegates and i count the votes and those who voted are counted, that's why this is the specifics, we are now in the human rights committee, in particular, i had a speech yesterday about sexual violence by men against men, because when they speak , they usually only talk about women and often civilians, but about what is done with prisoners of war in what way, they also showed photos of our last released prisoners of war, who were before capture, what they are now, and i must tell you that in fact many people in the hall had no idea

how difficult the situation was, that is, they understood, something is happening, but they didn't really understand how bad and terrible it is, that's why we are preparing further, there will be further resolutions that are less relevant to ukraine, but generally related to human, economic and political rights, as well... ukraine is taking a more active part in the osce parliamentary assembly, we are working to ensure that we have more and more ukrainians in the governing bodies, we will probably apply for the head of the human rights committee, for the vice-president of the parliamentary assembly, that is, we are trying to have ukraine itself set the agenda, and this it works now ms. natalya, what are you interested in, what they are talking about on the sidelines, what they are talking about among themselves, which may not... reach the documents, but these conversations, some such rumors, gossip, it is always possible to become documents in the future it is interesting, well, in fact, this is the most important thing, because

if we really look at it, we understand that the osce is not a very influential organization, as our human rights ombudsman said, that we will sooner free their workers, who are ukrainians, than the osce itself from captivity, because they are still there, and accordingly we use this site first of all. as a way to communicate with the parliamentarians of 55 countries, well, as i say, there is no russia here, we did everything to prevent it from issuing a visa to belarus in the same way, but it has the opportunity with others, because we can meet in there is no way to gather so many parliamentarians in one place and discuss important issues with them, well, of course, the main countries that participate in the osce are the usa and canada, which are not present, for example, in the council of europe, and this is such a good platform to communicate, and here... in every delegation there is always both the government and the opposition, just like in the ukrainian delegation, we act as a single team here, so there will not even be a discussion here, and when we talk with

us parliamentarians. well, the situation is very different, well, for example, the same victoria shpartz, who did not vote for aid to ukraine, is here, and here she very optically spoke about the fact that we must do everything to prevent the third world war, and this also quite coincides with what trump says. another question, she did not mention in what way at all, and spoke about the fact that europe should step up and take more care of its own security, and this narrative can be taken in two ways, although indeed europe should take more care of its own. and also we emphasize that when we talk about weapons, about the production of weapons, we say for example that this not for war, but for defense, because then all the following things, like people's rights, like education, like the economy, are secondary when there is no way to defend yourself, and this is also the issue that we say that every country should have for its own protection, and that ukraine continues to stand up for the protection of all countries, therefore there are many questions, of course, there is a lot of discussion about

elections in the united states of america, elections in other countries, they took place differently, who received more votes and where in which countries, many where the right-wing radicals gain a certain percentage, but the majority further held mainly by centrists, so that's what happens in koloa in general. madam natalya, you promised the osce parliamentary assembly with simultaneous voting in the state duma and the federation council. to completely leave the russian federation in february, you say, there are representatives of russia and belarus, what do they say and who is in contact with them? no, no, they are not there, because we did everything possible not to issue visas to them, but this is always the will of each country and government, so canada did not give them, romania did not give them, the next meeting in ireland probably won't give it, but they suspended their membership fees, that's what they said in february, we

didn't work much, but not at the moment... we left the osce and we're doing everything if everything goes on and we communicate, so that it's not the place of russia, which has violated its own security, for which this organization was created, that it can be here, of course, that there is a narrative from certain countries about what is needed at the table of transitions, and this wording, which i spoke, is softer, which was in the primary resolution, or rather, which they wanted to pass, rather than the primary, then no passed and... this is also an indicator that there is a discussion, but we manage to convince, that is why russia still suspended membership, but has not yet left. we have literally one more minute, i mean the frozen russian assets and profits from them, or the fact that the osce, the parliamentary assembly, the osce has now spoken about the need to launch this mechanism as soon as possible to use those funds for

ukraine, it somehow... . can really help influence, or is it just a good signal, and then everything needs to work on different fronts to make it work completely. to work on different fronts for it to work completely, because in fact the parliamentary assembly, it talks about principles, and in order to implement the mechanisms, it had to be the government, the government and the parliament of each state, and depending on it, and so on, but it must be so often joint agree, countries very often look at each other, whether you... to do or not, we must also understand that this is a new precedent, it has never happened in the history of mankind, that frozen assets are given, for example, there for the defense of the country, or on weapons so as not to use taxpayers' money taxes, because this is the money that is in the accounts, and accordingly it is security and financial secrecy, but when the financial secrecy is a killer who wipes his feet on international rules, then they are actually looking for a question and a way, how to be here,

also immediately . i will discuss that important points will also be discussed here, this year is dedicated to artificial intelligence in the osce, and europe has now made a decision that it is going to reign while russia, china, does not regulate it, and can also use it as a weapon not only against us , and against the world, and therefore, there is also the question of how much the law in artificial intelligence should be regulated, and these discussions are also here, because everyone understands that many countries are now trying to invent a quantum computer. and accordingly, then the development of artificial intelligence will be different, that is why these questions are also asked here, mrs. natalya, fruitful work, nataliya pipa, people's deputy of ukraine and member of the delegation in the osce parliamentary assembly was in touch with us, thank you, it is news time, anna eva melnyk has already waited and wants to share the latest information for this moment, anna eva, we give you the floor. greetings, colleagues, thank you for your work.