the approach of autumn and certain important events across the ocean, how they will be reflected in our situation, how would you comment in general quite briefly, perhaps, you know, it has already been compressed in the necessary consistency in the head, what took place literally a few days ago, at the beginning of the past another week, the minister of defense, the ministers of defense of the russian federation and the united states itself, what does it all mean? was it related to putin's tour, north korea, vietnam, then, should it be considered by the links of the united chain? to some extent yes, but the united states states are most interested in the issue of whether, well, in general they are interested in the issue of technology transfer, first of all to north korea, which give the koreans the opportunity to develop their naval forces, this is what worries the united states the most. knowing their partners in

the region, first of all, it's south korea and japan, and so, of course, they could touch on these topics, but i think that, you know, in general, between the united states and russia , there is this line of strategic security, dialogue, of the so-called between the military, she only once at the beginning of 2022, after a full-scale invasion did not work, then it recovered, and it seems to me that this conversation, it was connected simply with that. that lloyd austin decided to call and talk to the new secretary of defense, before that they talked exclusively with shaigu, this is bilousov, just an introductory call that took place, of course, the united states emphasized certain positions that may be related to nuclear security, i am in this sure, but you understand very well that it is not bilovusa in russia who makes the decision regarding the signing of the agreements with the dprk and so on, no matter what the united states says in this dialogue. it

does not have, is not decisive, this dialogue, it was initiated and this line to avoid incidents related to direct military confrontation, that is, when there are risks that there may be risks of direct military confrontation between russia and the united states, which may lead to the start of a nuclear war, and in order to prevent this, they are in contact, this dialogue is often most often, probably the last time in recent history. applied when russia was in syria and the united states was in syria, and they were in contact. in the end , there was even one case when russia did not recognize that among assad’s forces there were russian military and there were wagnerites, as a result of this the usa struck them, there was such an interesting episode and many of their russians died there, but in general this is the line, it is in the first priority for such things is the avoidance of unwanted incidents between directly between. but it is interesting that

exactly at the same time, well almost simultaneously with this conversation, which according to many analysts, and in particular, your opinion, oleksandra, still revolved around the nuclear issue, lukashenko, putin's stooge, again hints at the possibility of using some kind of nuclear weapons there, in case, as he says, of any threats to their sovereignty, well... but it's difficult to imagine lukashenko doing or saying something on his own without any consultation with the kremlin. yes, there is such a calendar, you know, you can set reminders on the calendar, monthly or quarterly, what i have to do, what meetings i have, what my schedule should be, i put a mark: to mention nuclear weapons on the territory of belarus, well, in the event that i was there , of course i would be there in belarus and, god forbid, of course, i would belong to these forces of evil, but...

you just need to understand that this is happening approximately just like this: from time to time, russia or belarus, or lukashenko, or putin or anyone else from their representatives of the power security bloc, come out and make statements reminding us that we have nuclear weapons, we will use them . not so long ago, they graduated from ashmian forestry, not far from the border with lithuania, 20 kilometers away, iskanders were carrying nuclear warheads, they were scaring lithuania. and poland, of course, then they checked the combat readiness of their aviation, just as quickly, by the way, in russia they criticized, they said that they checked like that, if everything happened so quickly, and now, again , another round, so that we have to to remind and include this escalation scenario, well, it's more, you know, aimed at the west, still, it's a constant reminder that there are weapons, that they can be used, and that that the event might... slow down the pace

of aid in ukraine, well, it is not working, but it will be used, in the end, you have to understand that it will not be refused, i will tell you that such actions are. and they happen from time to time, then statements, then training, then the movement of these weapons, why is lukashenko making these statements now, why is his command making these statements now, because in fact there is a serious problem there, because poland is on the verge of to completely close any connection with belarus at all checkpoints, because that russia and belarus are terrorizing the border with poland with illegal migrants, and imagine that the principle... this is a blow to belarusian transit, it is a blow to the economy, those ties that they still had with poland and with europe, since with lithuania is closed, everything may be closed with poland, so what next? and i think that these are all the statements of lukashenka and others

that ukraine is redeploying some troops there in the zhytomyr region, another thing is that they are already shooting down some ukrainian drones, you know, this is to any dictatorial regime, when it is necessary to... divert attention from some events, arranges a small victory war, but lukashenko has arranged it now again in order to divert attention from those issues that arise, and russia is all on schedule, everything is in order, you know, in calendar date when it is necessary to remind that there are nuclear weapons that can be used. but the strikes on russian power plants were not on schedule, we saw what happened last night in the belgorod region and... kursk, voronezh, there was actually at least a partial blackout. the last one the message that is currently in social networks, in principle, is the arrival of an aircraft in crimea, the balaklava thermal power plant was allegedly hit,

that is, in fact, as far as i understand, the armed forces, including, began their operation and not only the armed forces, but ukraine against the russians... these energy carriers, yes, and we see that russia has also become more active in the last few days, yesterday they tried to carry out another attack on kyiv with two iskanderm missiles, we see that today is restless all day, air alarms all over the country, strikes most likely on myrhorod, explosions in kropyvnytskyi, if mr. oleksandr, we are talking about... here are these strikes on russian power plants, this is a certain beginning, is this a continuation of strikes on russian infrastructure and should we really expect what will happen to russia or could there really be a blackout in the territories occupied by russia or something like

what, unfortunately, we have now in ukraine? from what i know, which can be stated in principle, ukraine... struck or is striking exclusively those objects, for example, you mentioned balaklava, why there because it is an object that is put into operation by so-called tench or ketch, i.e. accommodation and operational parts, which directly provide the engineering and technical needs of military units or specifically military towns, that is, what can be qualified exclusively as a military object, which does not harm the school on... excessively and civilians, because in principle, let's say this, the position of the ukrainian command, in particular, and the military leadership, including that we will not act contrary to international humanitarian rights, in contrast to our enemy, therefore

, strictly speaking, these objects were struck, i think they will be struck, on the rest, which relate to the provision of civilians, i have nothing to say here, it is unlikely that our forces will. act purposefully directly against civilian objects. well, according to some information, if we are talking about sevastopol, literally at this moment, then we can be talking about a military unit in the karani area, it is a naval unit, so -called, there is a position on the karani heights. well, waiting for more detailed information, very much we thank those, our sources of information on the crimean peninsula, who continue to provide us with an understanding of what... what is happening in crimea and what potential losses the russian military machine may suffer there. oleksandr, thank you for joining the live broadcast. we would like to remind you that oleksandr musienko, director of the center for military and legal studies, was in contact with the studio, and we would simply like to remind you that

the military situation in our country remains extremely tense, and the enemy continues to advance, in particular in donetsk region, does not leave his own. attempts and in the south in the kharkiv region, in the area where they recently actually broke through the border, the defense forces continue to defend themselves and push the russians away from some of the positions they occupied. we understand that everything looks extremely dynamic, but what is important, if we are talking about the last month of spring and the first month of summer, then we have absolute records, starting from february 2022, for the destruction of russian special equipment, russian air defense equipment and artillery systems, which not may not please. well, at the expense of their... well, relatively speaking, citizens, i think that they absolutely do not care, but technology is very

important for russia and much more important than their people. i remind you about our survey, which we are conducting today, whether ukraine should agree to negotiations with the russian federation with the participation of mediators, you can vote for free, yes or no, in your opinion, if so, please vote. 0800-21381 if you think not then you can vote 0.800 211 382 and we already we have the next guest, this is ivanna klimpushtentsadze, people's deputy of ukraine, head of the committee on ukraine's integration into the european union, ms. ivana, we welcome you, glory to ukraine. we have a little problem with the connection right now, we'll call you back now, and

for now we'll announce our topics, right? i think one of the most important events that is happening in europe right now, which is basically worth paying attention to, because it happened yesterday, it's happening today, it's going to happen all week, is the french election, it's important because really from the fate of france itself will depend on these elections. both the european union and ukraine. i think we will also talk about orbán's 11 demands. this, this is also important for our country, because it actually caused a great resonance in ukraine. this is what our citizens are talking about, and here it is necessary to understand which demands we can really fulfill, which demands we cannot fulfill, which demands are problems, problematic for our country, and which ones. are possible such that contradict the constitution

of our state, right? i think that we will also, in principle, touch on the topic with ms. ivanna, which concerns ukraine's accession to the european union, the summit that took place last week, and what will happen after it, what should be the reaction of ukraine and europe, how long will it take us to do this, what pitfalls will we face on this way , and in the meantime, in my opinion, quite rightly, albeit belatedly, in organizations important to us, they are slowly beginning to arrive at clear and fair formulations regarding the armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine. we will remind that the osce parliamentary assembly adopted a resolution condemning the ten-year armed aggression of the russian federation against. ukraine, which recognized the actions of the military and political leadership of the russian federation and its armed forces during

the full-scale invasion and genocide of the ukrainian people. we understand that everything that concerns, in general , the osce parliamentary assembly and similar organizations, unfortunately, we can hardly now rely on any practical consequences of this vote, but less so, it is precisely on... such platforms that absolutely correct messages, consolidated positions, which are a little later, already in completely different, albeit related, bodies , practical decisions, practical votes and practical sanctions against the russian federation, but the sanctions, by the way , seem to be the most important to putin, and he constantly signals this to western partners as best he can at least to do it ms. ivanna, we have a phone, there are some problems with the video, so... so we will still talk now, ms. ivanna, we congratulate you

once again, you hear, good evening, yes, yes, ms. ivanna, here is the first topic, about which i would like to to talk to you, it concerns the elections in france, we saw yesterday’s results, there approximately 34% was won by the right-wing party or the radical right-wing party of marie le pen, so please tell me in your... opinion, whether these results will affect the results, or maybe the results of the second the tour, which will take place on the seventh of july, on the relations between france and ukraine and in general, can it... influence the general position of the european union in the future? well, everything will depend on how these elections will finally end and on the basis of which the new composition of the parliament is formed, which majority and which there will be a cabinet of ministers and who will be the head of the cabinet of ministers, although of course we know

that france is still a presidential republic and... a large number of things related to foreign policy, to defense policy, they will remain in the hands of president macron, but at the same time we understand that the government is responsible for budget funds, for the allocation of those budget funds for certain things, and of course, this can be a significant, the new government can be a significant challenge for ukraine, but not only for ukraine, it can be a significant challenge for mine. france within the european union and for the european union, so everything will depend on that, again, you are talking about the far-right, which received 33%, there are also left-wing forces with the ultra-left inside, they made such a coalition, formed left-wing forces, also received 28 %, and they are

also very diverse, and well, at the moment , that's for sure. such a coalition is not well worked out, and this too, among those parties there are also some that are, to put it mildly, risky for us. mrs. ivano, please tell me the trend on similar election results in europe, it concerns not only france, and is there a threat in your opinion for ukraine, for its future accession to the european union in view of this, well... of course, not only france, we have seen the results with you elections to the european parliament, when the far-right and far-left forces, well, like in france or there, say in germany, in the netherlands, received additional votes, due to the loss of specific forces, and this definitely indicates a change of mood in

european societies, but. .. first of all, we are talking about a certain growth of internal nationalism, and accordingly, if this trend continues, if it gains strength and governments change as a result, then obviously this will be an additional call, including for ukraine, and in bilateral negotiations, because we will need it when conducting negotiations about the european future. definitely the main emphasis should be placed on interaction with the european commission regarding the adaptation of our legislation to european, but without partnership dialogue with every member country, we will also not be able to go through this path quickly and efficiently, that's why it 's such a big, big challenge that is growing

in europe, growing in relation to ukraine as well. ugh, but if we are really talking about ukraine and the eu, about this period of accession, the actual one, when we already have a real chance to join the european union in a few years, we now see that pitfalls are appearing in the form of orbán's next demands , this is about these 11 tricks of orbán, and i would like to ask you about yours opinion, is it really possible to implement them, or? does it have to be done in their constitution and national interests, does it not contradict a part from our country, and does a part of them not contradict the direct approach of the european countries themselves, definitely yes, and it contradicts both, and this, let's say, for us today ,

well, we understand that this is an ultimatum. it was orban's demand that he appeared, and even, unfortunately, the deputy prime minister said that ukraine would somehow fulfill these, these 11 points, but at the same time, i am convinced that in there will be opportunities for us to find a compromise where there is a compromise option, and where it really concerns some no'. things, such as, for example, calling parts of ukraine historically hungarian territory or other things that are in 11 points, i am convinced that we... will succeed in convincing all the other 26 members of the european union about the need to put pressure on hungary and the need to give up these ambitions, but

at the same time we also see how orbán is actively trying to show that he is somehow extinguishing this conflict with ukraine to some extent, we saw him actively trying to talk to you. with president zelensky during the last council of the european union, i think that hungary, which began to preside over the european union today, will try to demonstrate that it is, well, such a capable european player, trying to deepen public relations and contacts with ukraine, although we you also know that all this... is happening against the background of the fact that there have already been up to a dozen times during these two years of full-scale invasion of the highest leadership of hungary

actively, actively communicating both with russia federation, as well as with its immediate allies, and iran, and belarus, and china, and we understand what orbán is actually pursuing. not the interests of national minorities when he talks to ukraine, but rather he promotes the interests of these dictatorships. ms. ivanna, dad dad, a little bit about parye and the osce parliamentary assembly, in particular your colleague from the parliament, iryna gerashchenko , wrote today that in... the osce parliamentary assembly today is resolution day, most of them concern ukraine, and a special event was also held , dedicated to problems of immigrants. in their speeches with

mr. gerasimov, they emphasized that housing and work remain the biggest problems for idps, they talked about our legislative initiatives, specific projects to support people. we understand the challenges that the ukrainian state faces when such large-scale migration takes place within the country. however, a large number of our people are now... outside the country, are guests in countries such as poland, for example, and as of today there are some the rules of stay for ukrainians are changing, among the changes is the mandatory, mandatory official, official placement of ukrainian children, regardless of whether they study online or online in ukrainian schools, still enroll in polish schools, in addition, there are several innovations that, so to speak , contribute to a higher level of assimilation of our people among the poles, well, this is my somewhat, maybe subjective opinion, mrs. ivanna, do you see this as a problem, or is it a permissible option

while the hot phase continues conflict, we of course, we see and understand the efforts of various countries in which ukrainians have found refuge today, and this is actually not only. poland is changing certain rules, and, unfortunately, the longer this war continues, the longer the children will be outside of ukraine, if ukraine does not offer them something effective, then they will really not just integrate, but like you they said, a large part can really assimilate, and this is a great challenge for us, and it is an extraordinary risk for us for ukrainians, but it also means that, for example, the ukrainian state should pay serious attention to how, in what way

to keep in touch with parents and children, and what to offer them, here in lithuania, well, with such, first of all, individual efforts, and with a small, small ... the ukrainian state operates a ukrainian school, and it already has several, not only in vilnius, it has several branches all over, in several regions of lithuania, and i know that there were intentions to open such a school in poland and hungary, but i understand that the efforts of these enthusiasts are obviously enough, but the state for some reason is not prioritizes these tasks. it seems to me that this is critically important in order to preserve our future and have it with ukrainian children, who could, ah...

use ukrainian programs and could then return to study in ukrainian schools. and in addition to these innovations, we remind you that it is now necessary to get a pesl immediately upon arrival. previously, it was given 30 days after arrival in poland. payments to poles for sheltering ukrainians are cancelled. citizens of this country could have such preferences if they open its doors for refugees from our country. from september 1, ukrainian children must go to polish schools, and ukrainians who have lived in poland for 365 days with a pesel document will be able to apply for a residence card, and it gives the right to live in the country for another three years, please pay attention to this, i i know that a large number of our citizens are watching us right now from outside our country, ms. ivanna, i actually believe you now...

andriy, if there are still questions that concern, in particular, our european integration, well, here is rather a short comment about that , that the ukrainian state and our ukrainian citizens, and public figures, should not divide ukrainians into those who are in ukraine and those who are outside ukraine, and this is very important, and here is probably a short question for you, ms. ivanna, what do you think, what should ukraine do, or should it do? already so that we can return our citizens, more of our citizens to ukraine, and you know, this is a whole complex of things, and i still do not see this strategy or any concepts developed by the government, moreover, all these restrictions, when local level deputies and people's deputies cannot interact with

communities. proactively behind the scenes, and they cannot keep this connection, cannot collect proposals, cannot translate them into legislative initiatives, this is simply an unacceptable thing, or when the state of ukraine there refuses to refuse to issue documents to young people, even with an unappealing of age at consular offices today. institutions of ukraine, it actually has nothing to do with the fact that the state takes care of how, in what way, to bring people home, in the future, when obviously it's a question of both security and energy, now, i think that's also an extraordinary, extraordinary challenge, which , unfortunately, can cause additional, additional waves ukrainians who may seek

refuge abroad. and here the state should also take care of it, but at the same time it should offer communication programs for ukrainians abroad, and the state does not do this. ms. ivanna, we are very grateful for your thoughts, ivanna klympysh tsensadze, people's deputy of ukraine, the head of the committee on ukraine's integration into the european union, was in touch with our studio. we move on. and we remind you, on the occasion of our survey, whether ukraine should agree to negotiations with the russian federation with the participation of intermediaries, you can vote absolutely free of charge from your phones or smartphones by numbers. if you think yes - 0800 211 381, if you think no - 0800 211 382, ​​these numbers you can see on the screen now. so. well, a little about

the details of what is happening simply now, let us remind you that the occupied crimea is still restless, and the crimean wind public is slowly beginning to find out information, so far there are two, two, let's say, two potential places where the flight could have arrived, quite bright, this or the area of ​​the height of hirn in balaclava, or the karan plateau and the heights of kayabash in balaclava, too, let's move on to the events overseas, they were, oh, so bright this week and remain so with the projection for the next week, right? ihor eisenberg, a professor at new york university, will be in direct contact with our studio talking now about the trump-biden debate, the aftermath of that debate, and ultimately the current one.