the repair of the ship is quite long, the more such gogs there are in the russian, in the russian fleets and in general in the russian armies, the better, the sooner russia will be free and ukraine will be free. mr. vladyslav, if we talk about the recent events of this week in crimea, we once again learned that russia will be hostile to ukraine even after the war of attrition. yevhen khlobestov, professor of the kyiv-mahylya academy, and he means that even after the liberation of crimea , we cannot avoid danger and we will have to rebuild crimea into such a fortress already ukrainian, do you agree with this opinion? i think that the determining factor that will provide a security perimeter on the territory of our country along the border of 1991 is resources, it is a powerful exim security. the ukrainian army, this

is a developed and multi-level complex of defense industrial production, these are collective security agreements, in principle i understand that russia will not go anywhere even after our victory, but so that the price of any aggression on the part of moscow in relation to our country was unacceptable and very painful for us resources are needed, resources that will absolutely clearly demonstrate that, we are ready to repel any... already aggression and are ready to strike back for using all our resources, and this response will be so painful, so large-scale in terms of crisis-level consequences , so that none of the successors of vladimir putin, who will harbor any alarmist calls and plans, do not even think or guess that he will be able to win in a new confrontation with ukraine. well,

i have such, you know, maybe global questions, and how to make russia no longer capable, and show aggression not only against ukraine, but also against other states with which it currently has occupation relations, including georgia, moldova, and others and so on, well that is is it possible to talk about the future demilitarization and possibly the future... denuclearization of the russian federation? yes, mrs. gultsya, it is absolutely correct to remark, of course, that the plans are very ambitious, but the key element of this plan is resources, and accordingly, if ukraine, of course, with the unconditional support of our western partners will manage to destroy the key elements of the enemy's military potential, i think that the position of conditional vladimir putin, in general , the highest military and political leadership of the russian federation, is transformed from the current one, which literally demands surrender.

of ukraine, and de facto, of the entire collective event, to a more lenient and more constructive one. systematic and methodical destruction of defensive means, this is the basis and motivation for our victory and stabilization of the security space not only in our country, but also in principle in the european continent, because putin does not hide his alarmist plans for the baltic countries and other countries of eastern europe, so we will only be together, only by combining our efforts. can weaken the enemy's military potential as much as possible, which means creating conditions for a predictable and sustainable peace in europe. thank you very much, mr. vladyslav, the most important thing is that you found the time and joined our broadcast, see you on other broadcasts of the atr tv channel and the espresso tv channel. vladyslav seliznyov, military expert, spokesperson of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine 2017-200 2014-2017 was. on

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ask questions to the presenters and guests, and let's start with the hottest topic of this week. gulsumu, it must be. well, really, during the main week , i just have a very large scale of emotions, you know, because we have been waiting for this for a very long time, and we waited and we are still waiting for all the political prisoners of the kremlin, all our guys who are currently in russian prisons, but on this week we saw one of them, this is mr. dzhelala is a crimean tatar politician, the first deputy head of the crimean-tatar people's inter-forest, he is already at large, he is already in ukraine, in kyiv, he was met by the leader of the crimean tatar

people, mustafa dzhemilov, the head of the crimean tatar people's inter-forest, refat chubarov, you can see these footage now. and i would like us now... to hear mr. nariman, his first words after his release, i am already in ukraine, i was met by such nice guys who gave me gifts, i am at home. day did not lose hope that someday this will end, although internally i was ready to endure the entire unfair term that was assigned to me in the occupation court of crimea. the most important thing for us was to know that

ukraine continues to fight for its own freedom, independence, and this hope, this resistance, he inspired us, will not give up either. together with mr. nariman jellyal, nine political prisoners of the kremlin were released, and we very much hope that after this we will see more of our political prisoners who are still in fsb prisons, russian prisons federation, and we will see everyone at large in the country. in my country, in my homeland, and i hope, in the future already on the territory of crimea, on the territory, on the territory of the liberated crimea. yes, and of course, we all did not expect the return, especially mr. nariman, my

tape was all torn up on facebook from the emotions of the crimeans, who reacted very emotionally. to this news, because the person was in captivity not a year or two, from which year 2.9 from 2021 after the inaugural summit of the crimean platform. where he came, he later returned to crimea, and as mr. riman dzhelal said in his first interview, he understood that the occupiers would detain him after returning to crimea, but how was he, how was he liberated, we will talk with the head of the crimean tatar people's mezhles, mr. ryfat chubarov, who he is now in direct contact with us and we are happy to congratulate him, rifa taga, salaam alaikum, welcome to you, alaykulayam. good evening, everyone, i promise you, we have already told you about the dismissal of mr.

nariman, but still you were in the process of his dismissal, how did it happen and how, how much time did it take to release him, well, look, the release of civilian prisoners of war, hostages and political prisoners is handled by a large... team, here starting from the office of the president of ukraine and the authority of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on human rights, the mejlis of the crimean tatar people, human rights organizations, lawyers, i.e. everyone is trying to contribute as much as possible to freeing our citizens as quickly as possible, uh, we had to explain a lot how difficult it is. there are processes regarding the discussion of issues in general

political prisoners of the residents of crimea, we explained that the aggressor country avoids any negotiations on this topic. the russians demonstratively emphasize that our fellow citizens, who are deprived of their freedom , are actually like them. they say, citizens of russia, and we allegedly pry into their internal affairs, well, such cynicism, on the part of russia, but in reality this is revenge, their revenge against the crimean tatars, ethnic ukrainians, and political prisoners are those people who are in the vanguard of those hundreds of thousands, who do not accept the russian occupation, the task of the majlis is... to try to attract third parties parties, those who can, in a special way,

enter into a dialogue with the aggressor country, you know that there is a certain group of countries that maintain a dialogue, including the arab countries, but the results, you see, they are what they are today, according to 5 years, that is, after five years, when she was released. the last time, sentsov, political prisoner oleg, and edem bekerov, and now nariman dzelyal, although, and you know about it as journalists, and i am saying this more, for those who see you in occupied crimea, although it was discussed dozens of configurations, all almost surnames, which are all political who are deprived of their liberty, groups of political prisoners suffering from diseases

incompatible with being behind bars were discussed, political prisoners with four or more minor children were discussed, women were discussed and those who ended up behind bars, that is, but this time ... it was possible to free only nariman dzhelal, and this is understandable despite all our joy, it also adds, well, great bitterness, because we know, we know with our minds, but we, i do not know how to feel the pain of relatives, loved ones, those more than 200 political prisoners in crimea, but... but nevertheless, we understandably thank everyone who was involved in the release of nariman and

will continue to work for the release of other political prisoners. i would like to say here that there was a certain silence after the release, i have to explain it, because now i have the opportunity, and you are the first to whom i am talking about it, uh, because just a few hours ago we finally... that all those conditions we had to follow to ensure safety for nariman's family. and other such, you know, things related to the fate of political prisoners there who remained, all these, well we have passed the procedures, and ahriman's family, which is his wife and four minor

children, they are already on their way to ukraine, we hope that... tomorrow they will already be in our country, and i hope that by tomorrow morning nariman will leave by himself to get in touch with all of you, he is really looking forward to it, there were all those proposals , messages for nariman, we sent all this to him these days, and he, i think, will also respond to those er, er, according to those... requests or appeals to him, which there were these days, he has them all, as they say, in the phone, and starting tomorrow, i think that he will inform himself by which phones, in which city, well, of course, his workplace will be in the mejlis of the krymtsar people, but we will ask him, when he meets his family tomorrow, to he at least

rested for at least a short time, tariman is very eager to work, but we want... as i told him, well, i am already an older person, simply by age, i say that the children should return the smell of the father, the children should to stay with my father at least for a short time, so tomorrow we will we are waiting for such a joyful meeting between nariman and his wife, and now we can say that all the threats that could have happened to the family, they are also from the aggressor country, it seems that we have avoided them. it was such a complete evacuation, and we thank everyone who helped us make it happen. thank you for all this work. ryfat aga, nariman aga already said that he would soon deal with the issues of russian political prisoners, and continue your case. and now there are

334 political prisoners in crimea, according to my data, of which 217 are crimean tatars, that is, there is obviously some kind of special political message here, what numbers do you have, what can be said about the groups of political prisoners, how are they ethnically, religiously entertained, is there any selectivity in the actions of the russians? look, we need numbers here, but they are just so much higher. according to certain such factors or criteria, in general, the number of people who, let's say, were persecuted, and in relation to whom there are sentences, they are much more, but we will distinguish between criminal

prosecution and deprivation of liberty and persecution. for political reasons, but which, thank god, ended only with administrative punishments, for administrative punishments, i don’t know if any public organizations are currently leading rights activists, such a list, but they have already gone far there for somewhere over a thousand people, starting from the breakthrough of the blockade, well, starting from 26 -th february 2014, because as soon as the russians occupied crimea, they began to attract people to, well, not to attract, but to repress people for the events that happened to them, but if they relied on their laws, which happened when they were physically close to them

was not in crimea, that is, before the occupation of crimea, well, on february 26, but they attracted a large group of people. to the trial of those who took part in the breach of the administrative border on may 3, we met the leader of the kremtsar people , mr. mustafa dzhemilev, and then it went, as they say, it went, those people who were tried in criminal cases, you called this number the number of them for 300 those who are currently in places of detention, er places of detention, detention in... the field of such people, well , about 230, i may be wrong now a few numbers, because there is also a dynamic going on, which is the most painful for us. this category of our people who are deprived of their freedom, because the main part, a significant part of them are people who are deprived

for 12, 13, 15, 17, 19 years, as a rule, they are either terrorists, saboteurs, or i don't know there are some other accusations, and this, these people, russia is trying as much as possible, but further... to take revenge on them, and she, she does not want to discuss them, and the release of these people is the most important, our main task for us . well, this is indeed the liberation of mr nariman zhulyal, a very successful experience for us, for ukraine, for the entire crimean tatar people and the families of our political prisoners, who really have hope for something else political. the prisoners will also be released, please tell me, rifataga, here is this successful experience with mr. noriman jelyal, it is more the exception than

the rule, or we can still use this experience, exchange experience, you see, for now , for now this is an exception, in my opinion, i don’t know how others will evaluate it, because eh... but russians are so avoid the release of political prisoners in general, that here it is simply that i may not know some points here, because directly at the stage when they go, excuse me from the russian side, negotiations, because they treat their own people as a resource, manipulating, with which... it is possible to achieve some of their goals, and therefore they transfer this approach to our people, that is, they

keep our political prisoners, if somewhere there is some kind of problem, well, there is such a very urgent problem for them that they want to solve , because they also have people who get into the situation. this is deprivation of liberty either in us or in third countries that are very necessary for the regime, well, it could be employees of the russian special services, or some very visible military personnel, i have no right to say, but i want to say that these inhumans are russian, they they really lead, they know how they bargain and as soon as they see it in the lists of people who are waiting for the ukrainian society, or people who are not broken in prisons there, they give

the highest price for them, and after receiving this price , they are all however, they are not fired for a while, they simply leave the negotiations, so i think it is necessary to approach them in this way and to find such issues. and such forms of pressure on russia, so that it cannot refuse to release our people, we cannot find, well, no, not because we, we are so weak, but so far there are no such, you know, such topics that russia would say, okay , we give your political alms, but you will do one or the other, there must be very painful problems for them. and that's why we sometimes involve third countries, but nothing cooperates, sometimes there are links to economic projects that can prevent russia

from promoting its economic interests in the third and fourth countries, but i want to repeat once again that the russians very clearly feel such indomitable ukrainian patriots, and when it is their turn to discuss, they... do not give them up, as a rule, this is also the case with prisoners of war, look at azov, they give one small group, others are kept, there are women, prisoners of war, ukrainian soldiers, women are there, they do not hand them over, because they are considered such a very important resource for them for trade, they are waiting when they will have to offer us something, well , something to us, so that we make such greater concessions to them, this... it is terrible, i say this as a person who is not involved very much many details, but what i know is, it's really terrible, they, they trade

people's lives, cynical, it all sounds. looks like, but we did not expect anything else from the russians, the occupiers, but the recent decision of the european court of human rights regarding human rights violations in crimea, can this be some kind of leverage, or are the russians not paying attention to the decisions of international structures, while they are showing off what they have not implemented and will not implement, well, they are showing off, because you know that in march, it seems like 2022, as soon as it started in full. such a large-scale invasion, and these terrible crimes of russia, russia was thrown out of the council of europe, and this convention for the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms, and thus russia believes that uh, if i'm not mistaken, since april that it no longer, is not among the participants of the european court of

human rights, and therefore... it will come from that all these decisions will not be implemented by her, but nevertheless, this decision is historic, i am not exaggerating here, if we also mention here that before that, there was a decision of 2021, when the european court, as a promi, well, this is the first , such an interim decision, approved that russia exercises... effective control over crimea from february 27, 2024 in 2014, russia really wanted, it then fought for the approval of the decision, which it says will be responsible from after the crimeans held some kind of referendum, asked to join russia, and that is them

wanted to answer somewhere... on march 1 , 2014, but the court said no, in the morning, well, from the 27th, remember, the 26th, it was such an all-crimean mass meeting at the call of the midjlis of the crimean people, we then, well, we endured the situation, we allegedly ensured that the ukrainian law enforcement authorities took power into our own hands, but we did not imagine at the time that such a large scale of treason was taking place in the... units of the special services of ukraine, and then the russians on the morning of february 27, 2014, they had already openly and proceeded to seize crimea , with weapons, special forces captured the main ones, so they i.e. then these people, that rally forced putin to go to option b, and in front of the eyes of the whole shocked world, he began to... seize

crimea by military means, and the court pointed to it. the russians were in shock, and now this is the last decision you asked about, now the court said that the russians are guilty of all the claims of ukraine, of all the articles of the convention on the protection of human rights. i'm just sure that when the results or the preparation for the special international tribunal for the crimes that. russia seeks against ukraine, i think that this decision will be simple, it will ensure that these results, especially in terms of reparations, compensation to citizens, specifically, individually, all this will be of great importance. thank you, chohsaglnosti fotga, for taking the time to join our broadcast, see you soon.

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