third parties considered a potential mediator, this is a very high stake for orbán, perhaps the highest of all, in his entire life, this is a stake that will allow him to go down in history, but this is a stake that at the same time, if it loses, will deprive him, in general , of hungary special mention of him in his historical journal, but listen, he's looking at recep tayyip erdoğan like that and thinking, well, am i a worse negotiator or what? well, he has the right to claim this position, the state of the turkish economy, the state of the hungarian economy are not comparable, and if he focused a little more on his own problems with the welfare state, on his own problems that he cannot solve without access to european funds or borrowing from the chinese, then maybe the people of hungary once remembered him in warmer terms than the current situation, and i have one last question, do i understand correctly that orbán

does not have any great... influence on putin, and he also does not have any special tools of the hungarian prime minister to influence the head of the kremlin. it seems to me that the main tool that can now to use orbán, this is his ambition, and this is his political intelligence, because he is known for his qualities as a political animal, but all these tools are being used now. not to influence putin or to influence zelensky, but above all to promote orban himself, and i want to say that he can influence, he can provide a platform, and he is trying in every way to sell this platform while he has influence on it, but to talk about that he would formulate peace terms would be very, very presumptuous. thank you very much, serhii grasimchuk, deputy executive director of the ukrainian prism foreign policy council and director of the regional initiatives and neighborhood program, we talked about the visit. viktor

orban to moscow and kyiv, his goal, overarching task, his expectations and prospects for his participation as a negotiator. thank you very much. well , viktor orban is visiting moscow a few days before the anniversary of the 75th nato summit in washington. the door to the alliance is supposedly open for ukraine, but there are nuances: ukraine is not promised when and under what conditions it can join nato, but let's return to orban. a month ago... the hungarian prime minister said that he wants to change the terms of his country's membership in nato and refuse to participate in any nato actions or operations aimed at supporting ukraine. and with this in mind, we asked the hungarians how inclined they are to support ukraine and do they see it as part of nato? listen. should ukraine be in nato? well, not yet, it should be on the back burner because it creates. there are too many problems with the russians, and

it is not worth the whole world fighting. probably, it would it helped them, they are just not ready for it, so it is risky to accept someone now in such a position. how do you see ukraine's membership in nato, would it be a good solution to the current situation? i think that ukraine has a treaty that prohibits it from being a member of nato. i think ukraine is playing with fire again. with the fact that they want to be in nato? exactly. well, i do not know. nato already supports them. it is necessary to help as part of the pursuit of peace, but this should have been done at the beginning. now the situation is so explosive, the mood is so hot, that there is almost no possibility of a peaceful solution. well, isn't it better if we don't support the ukrainians, if we are occupied, then other nato countries can say: why support ukraine, why support hungary, let it defend itself, it's... the same thing. i believe that

hosting a country at war is risky. for me, this is a principle. until everything normalizes a little, it is not worth it. could nato protect ukraine or hungary from russia? with one hand. hungary has no military potential outside of nato. the fact that the secretary of defense owns a certain defense business does not means that the hungarian army has any combat capability. so i think that hungary should... stay in nato at all costs, and nato should treat viktor orbán as a bad criminal who needs special treatment, which they are actually doing. leaving nato would be a disaster for us now, well, let's hope nato can protect us, isn't that its main purpose, but let's hope we don't need it. our broadcast was joined by andrii vesilovskyi, extraordinary border ambassador of ukraine. representative of ukraine in the eu

2008-10 years. congratulations. good day. who does viktor orban represent today, or rather , who does viktor orban represent in moscow today? the country, the european union, or yourself personally? it is absolutely true, viktor orbán, the prime minister of hungary, as long as he has enough health, he chose a good time and a good place, a good topic to establish himself as the prime minister, the leader of his own of the people and... and a man who can say in a full voice what others are supposedly afraid to say, that is exactly how he presents it, everyone needs peace, everyone there is something in bluesel, in the chairs, as he says, they sit and think about peace, and this peace is also

impossible to achieve, you have to go to the enemies, persuade them, listen to them and try to somehow bring them closer together, here i am brave brave, risky, young, compared to putin, that's what i'm doing, that's what i'm doing, i guarantee peace for you hungarians, i'm trying to guarantee peace for you europeans, and if someone in america is afraid of a nuclear war with the russian federation , then i guarantee this peace for them as well, thus i am... the only one for today a european or maybe even a world politician who can talk to beijing, to moscow, to kyiv, to brussels, to washington, appreciate me, love me, kiss me everywhere, well, with

washington he can't talk as freely as he does can talk with beijing and with moscow, but he hopes, as far as i understand, to make bets, our guests talked about this on the air today. bets on the fact that donald trump will come to power, and then he will definitely be like this, i am exactly this, this is exactly what you meant, and seriously, what about ukraine from this visit, doesn't this visit of orban to moscow nullify all the efforts that ukraine has made for these 2.5 years to isolate putin, in the diplomatic and geopolitical plane, to me. we can manage orbán, even budapest can't manage him, even brussels can't manage him. from a diplomat's point of view, what orban has done now is just a brilliant special operation, no one really knew that he was going to go to kyiv, especially since he was going to go to

moscow after that, and no one felt that he would trade thereby hinting at the future the president of the united states, that is , he... everything turned out very well, and as for how he, so to speak, spoiled our ukrainian game, you see, i already said, we cannot contain him, we cannot control him, our task is narrower, it primarily concerns the battlefield, here is our task, and here are our credentials, and here... our path to peace, to the second or third summit or whatever, to negotiators and to convictions that we are capable of more than just to endure, even to win, and we will have a nato summit in 5 days, what can we do there

to bring, how in addition to our claims or requests for future membership, we have to bring there positive results in... you remember, many people asked why president biden didn't come to the peace summit, why he sent kamela haris there, he didn't come there because he sees the difficult situation on the battlefield in ukraine, that is, ukraine is not an object, is not a case of success, is not an object that you can be proud of and that you can... sell before the elections, as a result of his activities, and therefore he is certain i distanced myself from this to some extent, that's all the whole problem, and this is orban's success, he sees a difficult situation for ukraine, he

sees a certain courage in the activities of putin and russia now, and he tries to play along with this courage. thus repeating in brussels that you see, i am right, i said that we must put up with it, that there can be no military victory here, all this is about... what i am talking about is raising one's own image, and creating a phenomenon of one's own importance , helps him in the final case not just to sit in the chair, but also to negotiate better with the europeans on those issues that hurt him, and yes, yes, i still have, it means that he uh... uh is under actual sanctions from the european union, he's not

being paid large sums, it says over 6.5 billion euros for the violations that he committed and which he does not want to correct and in which he does not admit, but there are questions regarding the decrease of business interest in the hungarian environment, for two reasons, firstly, that... because democratic governance and the rule of law are not observed in many cases, and secondly, because orbán lets those who are prime competitors into his territory of europeans, it is mainly the chinese auto industry, this all complicates the internal situation for it, and in order to highlight its great role, it successfully and actively plays on the international arena. and i have one last question, we literally have less than 3 minutes left already, look, putin, now during

the negotiations with orban, he once again stated that the russians are not ready to cease fire before the negotiations, but in general they are ready to conduct these negotiations, this is what kyiv is saying against negotiations, well, here are all the narratives, now the russian kremlin narratives will appear again in the european press, in particular because the european leader is meeting with putin, and at the same time i see. activation of topics about possible negotiations in the press, do you think that such involvement of orban and his visit can contribute even more to the fact that in europe there or in the whole world they will look again and say: "no, well, sputin can talk, yes all european leaders cannot talk to him, but here, for example, orban can, which means that there is some opportunity for negotiations, and against the background of all this , to push ukraine once again, or even force her to go to negotiations on unfavorable terms, can orbán become such a leader here? during a meeting

in the kremlin just a few minutes ago, and putin repeated his conditions and said on june 14, i stated the conditions, namely: the ukrainian troops give us four oblasts and completely withdraw their armed forces from there, and crimea by itself, as well as other conditions, which we will not detail now, so there are no real grounds for either the ukrainian authorities or our european partners, or the same united states could agree to this, there is no such thing today, so it seems to me that there are no talks about quick negotiations and their inevitability, they are clearly inspired, again, by russia and... are not real today, there are no today reasons,

putin looks too demanding and his armed forces do not look so powerful. and the last very small clarification, but do i understand correctly that it is a huge plus for putin that viktor orban came to him and this is his victory. it's definitely his victory. shos is benefit in the east, and orban. in the kremlin, this is a benefit in the west. thank you very much. andrii vasylovskyi, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary and permanent representative of ukraine to the european union. from 2008 to 2010, he was at radio svoboda. we talked about viktor orban's visit to moscow. thank you. we have everything for today. i encourage you to subscribe to radio liberty's website . like this broadcast. in this way, you will support our work, the work of the radio liberty team. questions, comments, wishes.

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the chas time program of the ukrainian voice of america service is on the air, my name is natalya leonova, congratulations. us president joe biden congratulated the new prime minister of great britain, kier starmer, on his election victory. during the telephone conversation, the leaders confirmed their continued support for ukraine in its fight against russian aggression, the white house reports. labor this party won a convincing victory in the parliamentary elections in great britain, receiving more than 400 seats out of 650. the new government will be headed by the leader of the party, keir starmer. the new composition of the parliament, which until now has been dominated by representatives of the conservative party for almost 14 years, will meet already next tuesday. on july 5, prime minister rishi sunak, conceding defeat, vacated his residence at 10 downing street for the labor leader. on the same day keir starmer , after an audience with king charles, immediately began to form his government. about the result of the parliamentary elections, changes in the british government and the impact of these changes on support for ukraine, our european correspondent bohdan tsyupin

told ostap yarysh on the air of our briefing program earlier today. the new prime minister of britain, kier starmer, bohdan. we talked a little about him in previous broadcasts, but after all, let's remind you who he is, what to expect in... to the country, what is his position, what have we heard from him? er, well, of course, first of all it is, the leader of a renewed labor party, a party that he has made largely centrist, a party that is no longer as left-wing as it was, say, before, under the leadership of jeremy corbyn, under the… could not win, win, and now , actually, we can already talk not only about the prime minister, but also about his cabinet,

just appeared... reports about the first appointment, and we can already say that those two representatives of his shadow cabinet, ley boryskyi, when she was in the opposition, who came to kyiv in may as shadow ministers, are now appointed, and therefore they are already familiar with ukrainian officials, they have seen them in... literally recently and this is the last message i'm reading now david lamy, the new foreign secretary of great britain and also the defense secretary john hilly, interesting also the appointment of the new finance minister, or as they call it here in london, the position chancellor, for the first time it's a woman, angela rainer,

so... there are some interesting new names, the government is starting to form very, very quickly, it's one of those hallmarks of british politics, literally hours have passed since the results came out and we're already we know that kirstamer is the prime minister, we already know the names of the key ministers. bohdan, let's recall the positions of kir starmer and his... key members of the government regarding ukraine, what statements we heard from them, and what views they have, both regarding support for kyiv, and regarding the russian war against of ukraine? i think that maybe now we should show her the greeting that ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy sent to kyr starmer today, it was

made public in... in social networks, he emphasized the partnership between ukraine and great britain, and also that for sure , very remarkably, and probably also shows the connections, the closeness of ukraine's ties with great britain, president volodymyr zelenskyi considered it necessary to write such a broad, one might say, farewell letter to risha sunak as well. the prime minister, who today, today ends his term, and he reminds there that at this time, great britain provided ukraine with tanks, challenger, the first of the western countries, britain provided heavy battle tanks, as well as stormshadow cruise missiles, that is, ukraine, ukraine has a lot to thank for. britain,

the british have something to be proud of, we will see later how much, how much this help will be the same, not just, not just important, even bright, because the british, despite the fact that this country is small compared to, for example, the united states, but that the fact that they were the first, for example, to supply tanks again, 14 tanks. it is not much, but they were the first, after them came the leopards, after them came the abrams, the cruise missiles were the first before the united states went to supply ukraine with the so-called atakams, and this, and this is very important, or will britain continue to be able to do this under the leadership of kier starmer, namely to be not simply, so

to speak... the basis of support for ukraine among european countries, but to be a leader, this is actually not a very easy question, to be asked simple answer because well let's say until recently british government officials said that the storm shadow cruise missiles were actually almost out of production and their stockpile was limited, yes, that is how much britain could provide, would they go... to rebuild, restart production , or whether there will be any other sources, regarding tanks as well, britain does not have additional, let’s say, opportunities to share its tanks, britain also has them, we don’t know britain, it actually conducted large-scale, we know, training of the ukrainian military on its territory, this is important, this is an important point, and we and we know it from time to time.