to surprise, well, this is also another story, and meetings with putin and a trip to the states and a meeting with trump, this is all about one of the same things, which is called attraction to the strong, that is, you think that after all orbán is looking for himself now there are some options, or he wants to occupy his niche, find his role, and maybe get the role of a peacekeeper, for which he claims, he would probably dream of acting as a peacekeeper in this in this story, but if we talk about real ones, well, it is clear that they have not been made public to us and are unlikely to publicize about real proposals, and why this particular time, well , it is clear that it is unlikely that orbán is now hungary currently presiding over the european union, which prevented him from coming earlier, for example, as the minister of foreign affairs szijjártó went there now to moscow, then to belarus, then he also once met, by the way, with kuleba and yarmak, there were such moments. what is the connection with the fact that

right now orbán is carrying out such boat diplomacy, that again he could bring and answer later what kyiv is saying to putin, because this question is very, very important to me very worried, not what worries me, i am very interested to understand, i wanted to know about zelensky's red lines, that is, what is meant, what red lines, where we will agree to stop, where we can freeze, what do they think, or what will go, but again. president zelenskyi orban did not ask the ukrainian society, he did not ask the ukrainian army, which is fighting today at the front, so here it is, everything is very conditional, please listen, everything is very simple, no one will change the ukrainian constitution, that's all, and according to the ukrainian constitution, all regions that are occupied are the undivided territory of ukraine, and all the talk that we will sign something there, we will stop somewhere, is all a bluff. no one will go for it,

won't go and that's why i think that uh, everything that russia says there, uh, why, why now, because russia has a real huge problem, russia, uh, russia cannot continue the war at the rate at which it is continuing, it has ended, there are people, there are no commanders, there are no armored vehicles, they... really exceeded the limit that they had, and for in order to continue the war, at least at a more or less normal pace, they need a pause for six months to a year, that is, precisely because of this, all the movements of orbán and peacekeepers from other countries begin, and statements about the nuclear danger from belarus and

so on and so forth, this is all, you know, the informational background of one of their problems, that is, we can talk about the fact that right now, today, by the way, i was listening to my colleague serhii zgurets in the section on military summaries of the day, he spoke about the fact that this week saw the largest number of clashes in a day up to 200, more than in the entire history of a full-scale invasion, they say there was no more. there were 170, 130, but it was up to 200, he says, these are really record figures, i don’t know how many collisions would have been massed at each individual moment at each individual station of the front, but if we speak in general, then this is such a number, and they say that russia is really trying to make the most of what they have, and the personnel, and the equipment there, somewhere it is possible now to strike kabam, because we still cannot get and burn their... planes there

200-300 km from the front with the help of foreign weapons, they are trying to use this time to maximally, maximally achieve the result in the directions where they are now there or minimal advances, or at least they are hooked and trying to continue letters, here is this margin of safety, what you say that there is something, something is missing, as much as it can be enough at such a pace of warfare and on the condition that in ukraine after all continues... mobilization and the fact that the results are improving, even the ministry of defense admits. look, all experts agree that if the situation remains at the level it is at, russia is able to withstand this pace until the end of the 25th year, and in russia they understand that, after, if nothing changes radically, in the 25th th year, at the end, autumn, beginning of winter. there may simply be

a collapse, an economic collapse, because their state will not be able to maintain the machinations that they themselves have created at the rate... which they have it, and then, if, well, of course, if some other drastic changes do not begin, i don’t know, there ukraine will not, no, not be able to go into any serious counter-offensives there, something else, something could happen in russia, to someone the snuffbox will hit the head, that is, all this, if at the same rate we see the end of the 25th year, and it is not so much military experts as economists, you know? here is this statement, let's just talk about what can affect the situation at the front, yesterday dmytro koleba said that we will get an interview with a latvian publication, if not, a lithuanian publication, if i'm not mistaken, and he said that there will be good surprises on the issue

of the possibility of burning russian aircraft inside, inside russia, in your opinion, what is going on in these negotiations now, is it really possible to get the russian ones? the dryers that these cabs drop, in the bases, are not thousands of kilometers from the border, it is much closer, and again, you can get them en masse, as we en masse, as we saw it, for example, in crimea, or as we see it temporarily occupied territories using western equipment, attacks and heimers, other, other means of defeat, in your opinion, what prevents the west from making a final decision yes, let's destroy the minimum, let's say you make it easier on the front. plus that you will be able to, say, remove a serious load from such settlements as kharkiv, settlements of kharkiv oblast, which are constantly under fire from these enemy cabals, well, the next round is permission to use rocket equipment capable of

hitting at 200 miles, 200 miles or 350 km, that is exactly that point on the border that allowed. to get to the airfields, which are actually the base for those e planes that destroy our front-line cities, this is , first of all, this is time, and secondly, uh, this is the appearance of f-16s, which are capable of a distance of up to 160 km to the point e-e - there, i don’t know, visual contact, capable of detecting and attacking russian planes that are still in the air of the russian federation, but they drop the cabs 80-70 km from the drop point, and in fact not even and do not enter

our airspace, but meet them at 160 km, we will even be able to prevent them. and close to our borders, and that then i just wonder at which, at what level this decision should be made, well, if we are talking about american missiles, let's say attacks, it is clear that we are talking about washington, first of all, on at what level should this decision be made and what is the safeguard, that's it, forever, it can escalate, are there any other nuances that maybe we don't know about, we don't guess, i think it all has to do with ... is this famous treaty about short- and medium-range missiles, from which the united states withdrew, which actually fell apart there and was ignored by russia, and which, by the way, has now been voiced as one of

the elements, maybe there, i don’t know, there is a treaty or agreements, on which there is little would go to ukraine, what is it for? done, because russia knows that we have reached the stage of manufacturing missiles that have a range of more than 100 km, eh, we have only one problem: we do not have test ranges where we can test, well, where we can test these missiles, previously it was in some measure up to 500 km it could be the black sea, but now it is impossible, because you know what the situation is in the black sea, in our training grounds on our territory, we... can strike, but we can test in the direction of russia, and russia is afraid of this, because we will actually use russia as a training ground, well, for understanding, even japan, for example, which has access to the ocean, used it to

test its ballistic missile, er, reprimands, well, they tested it recently, just a couple of days ago. landfill in california on the territory of the united states, that is, it is quite a serious thing, well, to hit, to hit with a ballistic missile. to some point so that you can determine how the shot went, what the accuracy of the shot was. the russians are very afraid that we will reach the capacity, and this capacity will give us, if 100 km, then 200, 300, it will not matter at all for ukraine, it will not play any role. well, that's true, but you know, remember the story when a full-scale invasion began, and then they used neptune missiles, which, let's say, did not explode, and then they realized that there were some problems. in the settings, then they found an employee of the enterprise who

specifically took certain actions to prevent the rockets from exploding, then made them explode, and actually there was an opportunity to sink the cruiser moscow, that is , the use can be entirely for certain purposes on the territory of the russian federation , but again there are people who are responsible for it, professionals who will definitely find a solution, the main thing. these missiles were, it was possible, it was possible to use them. i would also like to finish the topic with putin, this is what he suddenly, well, he said not recently about that you gave us four oblasts: kharkiv, zaporizhia, luhansk, donetsk, then there was an attack on vovchansk, an attempt to reach kharkiv, such a serious assault was, fortunately, the strength and blood of our armed forces, the silter of defense, it was unsuccessful, well, he didn't achieve his goal, let's put it this way, and now putin says that... but here he was in kazakhstan on the highway and says that we are ready to sit down and return to

the istanbul negotiations to the istanbul agreements, especially since these agreements were initialed by the ukrainian side in the spring 2022, so why not sit down and talk? please explain why we should not talk to putin on the basis of the istanbul talks and why he is already ready even for them, well , we understand that they are running out of time, but... still, listen, well, no one cares initialed, russia, these are putin's words, i'm not saying that someone initialed, it's him the way a real kgb agent buys, in his own words, as if he says, well, it was, and you, and you already have as if to no, it didn't happen, and well, roughly, it's roughly from the same opera that we reached agreements on non-expansion of nato, you see, well, we agreed then. with whom he agreed, what he agreed on, when it was, no one knows anything, but everyone

is talking about it, so, in fact, this is all, the words of one game, where they try, but let's do it, but whether they shine or not zayat, listen, you are manipulators, you yourself included our regions in your constitution, are you ready to change? your constitution in connection with the fact that you will flee from here, on what basis should we change our constitution, because what, because you wanted so, well, that ukraine will not to change the territory, the constitution and it will not be entered, i don’t know, the luhansk-donetsk region does not belong there, well, i just can’t imagine that verkhovna rada, and those 300 votes that will vote for it, and what kind of constitutional court is that will admit, well , people will simply tear it down. that's all, you know, on the very first day, we will talk about the possible

role of another intermediary in this story, we are talking about sizimpinnya, but i would also like to ask for your comment on the words of the president of ukraine and supreme commander-in-chief volodymyr zelenskyi, which he voiced in an interview with the bloomberg publication, he said that i have, well, not specifically, but let me still have him as the supreme commander of 14 brigades. which are not armed, well, this does not mean that people there do not actually have pistols, maybe some other types of weapons, but they are not equipped, that is, all this nomination of weapons that should be in the brigade, well, i do not know which brigade is mechanized , a separate assault brigade or, well, there are 14 brigades, but they are not armed, this was announced on the eve of the nato summit president zelensky, is it really so critical that there are people, but there are no weapons at all for them, or is it still such a way... on the eve of the summit in washington, that let's arm ourselves, and then there will be a completely

different result, i i think that this is a fallacy, because people now really do not need the regular weapons that should be on the front lines. in the vast majority, these are newly formed brigades that have another month and a half to study at training grounds and which may then be used as a reserve or as a rotation on one or another. areas of the front, and this is really a message to our partners that we have such capabilities, we have people, that we have no problems with equipment, eh... the brigades are formed, we are just waiting for your weapons and that's all. i would still like you to voice your opinion on the possible role of china. i read that one call from beijing from sydzenpin could at least not stop the war, well, but fundamentally influence putin's decision and his orders, which he would have given

even then, respectively, to bilausov, gerasimov and in general, they would find then and to his... to his units, and what do you think sijin pini wants, what will his changes in his moods and desires depend on, only on what will happen on the battlefield, or er, and on that , how powerful and united the west will be in its support of ukraine, and if you say that putin has time until the 25th year to wage a war of similar intensity, and somewhere more using infantry than armored vehicles, arranging these local assaults, it's just a fact, we see it, but... or whatever in your opinion, it is time for the chinese to make a final decision whether to continue to support russia, or to act anyway, well, i am not saying that he supports russia, that is what they say in the united states of america, in britain, or to act differently anyway and force events? well , look, since july 1, china has introduced export

controls on a fairly huge range of products that should, can... be used in the military industry, and this, well, that is , dual-purpose goods, and this is a rather serious decision, they are very sensitive to it went on for a long time, they somehow carefully avoided all this, it is clear that this does not apply directly to russia, including, for example, and it will probably be very difficult for us to get some details for these same drones, but at the same time, very large... nomenclature including machines with software and some electronic chips and so on and so on, that is, china understands the danger of being under sanctions pressure from europe, and well, the states are such a matter, the states are clear that they are on some kind of

confrontation and they somehow try there to achieve parity, but on the eve of the possible coming to power of trump in the states, who is categorically against the normal trade cooperation of the united states with china, they are afraid of losing european markets as well, and europe has clearly stated this, by the way , recently when everyone was there, and before that, all the politicians who appeared there, they said, listen, he says, we tie everything to the situation in ukraine, or you change your position, or there will be problems. we yes, we, we understand how difficult it will be for us, but also you and you will have a problem, and the surplus for china is a huge problem, where to put the money, and how, how to cool their overheated economy, so at some point putin may find himself really alone with iran and north

korea alone with the whole world, i saw the video today by the way, i think you saw it too. how does a north korean projectile explode, well it says it's a mine, but given that they were sitting on armor and there was a gun, it was obviously some kind of chimp or something, but anyway it was the northern krai projectile that exploded, and those people who were sitting on the russian occupier, they scattered in different directions, either in parts, or in some other way, and there is a post under it that we have here in svo, the russians say, this is not the first time , why does north korea give us something that it is not... needed, is it some kind of sabotage, or do they have all such weapons, or all such ammunition in north korea, or is this just a spit in the direction of russia, as if, well, you want , tell you what we don't need, but how, how they gathered, there what, there are some high technologies, there are technologies of the 50s, where mass was taken not, well, not by quality, but precisely

by mass, and in them, well, it broke in ee... during charging, it happens when it fires, it breaks they need barrels, and barrels, it’s just so hard to find, it’s not so easy to do, people, when they remove the old ones, they become steel and the new ones also end somewhere at some stage, that’s why their problems, listen, well, it’s been said for a long time, that due to accuracy, we reached parity, not one to one, one to three, but still i... well, it actually surfaced in our time, of course it would be possible to ask a few more questions, but in any case, well, for 30 seconds, but... still, what kind of phrase do you expect in washington for ukraine according to the results of the nato summit, which will start in four days, there in three, in fact, from the 9th to the 11th, it

will last, the ukrainian delegation worked in the united states, this is andrii iroma, the head of the office of the president, rustem, the mayor, the minister of defense and vice - the premiere was also stefanishna, if i'm not mistaken, there, well , that is, will it be possible to prepare something realistically, apart from the promised air defense, well, by the way, what... it is clear that no one will invite us to nato and there will be no plans for us to cross the border there, and we will start, well, to receive invitations from other countries, but at the same time there are things that can be launched right now, this is the participation of our specialists in the work of nato headquarters, this is the participation of our delegations in the work without the right to vote, that is, on the basis of... the rights of the closest partner, this is the inclusion of us in their purchases and, accordingly, the removal any reservations regarding purchase in any country

nato of certain types of weapons and so on and so on, that is, there are moments for which we need a solution right now, everything else, i think, we will get anyway, well, again , your opinion, it just upsets the internet, many people they add who is in the topic, who, as they say, is not in the topic, but these are emotional things, well, this one... the quarrel of people's deputy maryana bezuglai transferred to the public plane, not a quarrel, accusations against, in particular, general -colonel oleksandr syrskyi, well, in general, the ukrainian generals, that here the sovki are fighting for sovkov, in general, everything is not done that way, and zulazhny was not like that, now syrskyi is not like that, we no longer know who was like that, whether in your opinion this is an initiative, in particular by this lady, who is a politician and obviously wants to make herself even louder a political name, are these signs of some other processes, i won't name them to... say something wrong, but please listen to you, well, i'm definitely not a psychiatrist, i mean you, you this, you that belong to the field

of psychiatry, yes, i studied psychology, but everything related to medical psychiatry, i it is difficult to explain everything, the reaction of the generals, well, in particular alexander, colonel general and commander-in-chief syrsky, to this, and whether it is really forbidden for these specific... people's deputies to come to certain positions, i will just give one example, this will lead to ms. bezugla's post, where she writes that they put their generals in the dnipro there, well, we are talking about soder, there is another general, he will fly to the dnipro the next day, it may be related, it may not be related, but it seems that it was not aimed there, but here are things, well, they lead to what already they say, please - please, do you know how the russian imperial army ended, with the fact that officers and generals were removed from command, they were created... i don't know a committee of soldiers' deputies there, and on this the whole army finally made a decision and that's enough, let's go bayonets into the ground and go home, i

don't want this in the army in the ukrainian army, well, and i am absolutely convinced that a person, as they say , well, it is absolutely clear, a person for whom the army is all about oleksandrasivskyi , not only about him, and i do not think that he will give ko and understanding his biography and his character approximately. somewhere, i understand that he will definitely not allow anyone, while he is in office, to interfere, command and confuse him and maps and plans, but with this i am convinced of this, thank you very much for joining us, thank you for your comments, viktor yagon was with us, he is a reserve major general of the security service of ukraine, in any case, you know, any person who comes to office has certain job duties, the sphere of his responsibility, competence, well and of course, responsibility for without... responsibility is also there. before we move on to the conversation with the next guest, we will have viktor bobarenko. today i offer a plot for your attention.

the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, honored kharkiv guardsman oleg with a call sign. for the operative rescue of a wounded combat comrade from shelling. for the guard himself, the most important thing is to have enough knowledge of medical aid so as not to get confused and minimize complications after an injury. about his military outings in the area of ​​kryshchyvka on he told his daughter. to my colleagues, let's listen and see, they carried a wounded combat comrade from the 80th brigade for several kilometers under mortar fire, remembers the guardsman with the call sign noise, even the name of the saved soldier noise does not know, only the call sign and bison, and the most important thing is that the fighter survived, this he was quite, quite a brave boy, no complaints, despite the serious injury. he helped in every way, well, sometimes how, sometimes in drag, sometimes on his own, sometimes, well, he too, all the efforts

he had. manifested in order to help us knowledge from first aid to medical aid, says gvardiets, agreed already at the first combat exit, in the area of ​​klishcheivka in donetsk region at the stabilization point, the noise helped three wounded fighters. that is, it is not only to put a tourniquet and wait for evacuation, that is, i did a tamponade for a calf injury. to save his brother's leg. for one of the rescue operations on the front line, the noise guard was recognized by the president of ukraine. he personally congratulated the national guardsmen and presented awards to the soldiers. the fifth, separate slabozhan brigade. senior soldier, oleg shumov. then, oleg recalls, it was necessary to evacuate a wounded soldier from under fire, to go in a group, probably

to fall under enemy fire. the noise went away by itself, the haemostatic bandage and bandage failed to stop the blood loss completely, so in order to save part of the leg, a decision was made to rearrange the tourniquet below the knee, ugh, well, amputation, well, we understood what would happen and to save a larger part of the leg. they rearranged the turnstile, when the guardsman himself came under mortar fire, he had to go to the evacuation point with his comrades-in-arms almost 10 km on foot. the evacuation vehicle could not approach, the enemy shot through the area. as they do, they send a reconnaissance, assault group to kill in order to burn our positions, we worked on a group of infantry. they

found an attack on our position and tried to dismantle it, i.e. gasses, drops, semi-drones, mortar fire, despite being wounded, difficult and exhausting combat sorties in klishchiivka, the most difficult times for a guardsman, when there was no communication with relatives, at the beginning of the great war, mother and two sisters found themselves in temporary occupation of kharkiv. but there were cases when there were not enough people, and then there were no people. for more than a year, noise has been destroying the occupiers as part of the fifth slobozhan brigade of the national guard of ukraine. for me, it was just like that, that's all, i didn't respect myself if i didn't do that. change the fact of the shooter to the combat medic before the noise is collected, and the skills of the first.

he is constantly improving his knowledge of medical care, during a year in the war he made sure that this knowledge saves the lives of his comrades in arms. well, honor, honor and respect only to our soldiers and in particular the hero of this plot, who understand why he is there and improves in order to survive himself, destroy enemies and help his brothers and sisters. well, now we will analyze the political ones. this week, viktor bobarenko, an expert of the bureau of policy analysis, is with us, mr. viktor, i congratulate you, good health to you, i know, i will start with you from what we finished with viktor yagun, because it is somewhere at the interface of troops, politicians, but it is very important that this public presentation, as a continuation of public criticism, i will not say false. i

i'm just saying the criticism from the people's deputy maryana bezugla against the generals, in particular the commander-in-chief, colonel-general oleksandr syrskyi. this is her own initiative, how long will it last and how do you assess the reaction of the military command, which simply does not give this people's deputation the opportunity to be in certain positions of the armed forces of ukraine, what is it and how should it end in general, so that this story simply disappears , that's all. i'll start from the end, you can't let her into the position, because she's not a military expert, even though she's a people's person a deputy, her task is to write laws, to improve the regulatory framework, including for the armed forces of ukraine so that the mobilization takes place in a cool way, to influence politics somewhere, but jackets have nothing, especially jackets, well, i don’t want to be sexist, but

jackets also in skirts not worth it there.