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how far have the russians come? we know for sure, at least, about 19,505 deported ukrainian children, and this is only a part of all our little ukrainians and ukraine, who are still in the hands of the enemy. i don't believe in the number of 1900 children, but i think that it is, well, it is up to 100 thousand children for sure, it is not it is not... children, this is a sacred thing, we took them out of the conflict zone, saving their lives and health
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since february 23, i was on duty at 9 a.m. in the city of mariupol, and when it all started, we were raised on the alarm after significant explosions. and we started to build us and began to prove that a full-scale invasion had begun.
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"i woke up from the shaking of the windows, i thought it was a salute, of course i went out to the balcony, the fact that the door on the balcony was also shaking, i didn't call my mother early, my mother said that the war had started, of course, that panic , and my mother said that she would not be able to come from work to pick us up." mariupol, located 40 km from the russian border, the livoberezhny district is one of the first to come under fire from the russian military. tatyana's children, sashko, karina and danylo, remain alone in the apartment. don't reveal, don't reveal. bombing has already started in front of the house. school and
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a kindergarten nearby, and then they started, as i understood, to target houses, and then we quickly got together and went to where it was safer at the time, the children move in with family friends in a house with a reliable basement, well, something... it got quieter than quieter, we went out, we thought it was time to eat, cook and warm up a little, we went into the house, then just as the sun came out, everything was fine, grandma , the ceiling is falling on me, er, the windows are on me too flew away, i get up, my girlfriend is pulling me by the hand, i was very muffled, sasha was already lying on the floor, everyone was... jumping over to
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sasha to the basement to run, i stopped and in front of my eyes he is drawn, his eyes are rolled and my face is all white, i fell on his knees, started to cry, tried to lift him up, of course i shouted sasha, get up, sasha, wake up, sasha is silent. well, i remember how i suddenly started asking, i can't get up , i realized that i can't feel my legs and i started to drag them towards me and i turned over and everything, and then i woke up in the basement. karina and the rest of them picked me up. he was coughing hard and... with blood, he managed
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to say that it was difficult for him to breathe and he was unconscious. the neighbors found a surviving car and took the boy to a local hospital. at this time in another area. we didn't go to the basement, because it was dangerous, because they said that people also went to the basement, they collapsed and no one got them out, they died there, i immediately told her to leave mariupol, that i would meet her in the dnipro, only come mother she said she didn't want to leave, so that's how it was. communication, light and heating disappear in the city. sofia, together with her mother, brother and sister, go to live with a friend of their family. to get food, water, and coal, they go to the illich metallurgical plant, where
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supplies still remain. they just walked behind, and i ran away, i just wanted to, and at that time a rocket flew by. and i was only hit by a stone, and my mother and brother were crushed. at first everything was like in a fog, you can say that i did not see anything, then i get up, as if hallucinations, it felt like i was in some kind of game, then i started calling my mother, she answered me, i went to dig her out, i tried with my hands, because there were no shovels nearby... there were planes flying nearby, i was scared at that time, i wanted to help my mother, i dug her up so that she could breathe, and then i went to ask for help, found shovels and began to dig them up, she was also dug up somewhere in the day, maybe at one o'clock, maybe at 12 o'clock,
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she died, we put her on a wheelbarrow and took her to our yard to bury, brother. it is not possible to get out from under the rubble, he dies in place. around 5 o'clock we heard explosions. maxim wakes up, i wake up too. i said, this is training, everything will be fine. a social worker from the college called us and told us to pack up, a bus will come and pick you up in a day or two. well, nobody came for us. ivan and maksym are orphans, their official state guardian, anton bilay, director of the mariupol construction college, where the boys study. anton lives with his family near the student dormitory, when the lights go out in the city and the boys can no longer cook for themselves,
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anton comes to help. the flashlights are turned on, here i am with a bucket, scooping and distributing the soup on plates, and everyone stands like you know, like in that movie, like that with the plates, and i pour it for them. the shelling around is getting stronger and stronger. anton breaks through to leave the city and loses contact with ivan and maxim. at this time, ukrainian police officers in armored vehicles take the boys to a shelter in the center of mariupol. missiles from us, mines came, i don't know, somewhere 50 meters. not far from the guys' shelter, dramatic... a theater in which hundreds of people hide. in a few days, the russian military drops an aerial bomb there. ivan and maksym decide
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to leave mariupol on foot. we have not been in mariupol for over a week. since march 2, people have been living as if in a vacuum. it was 11:08 a.m. at that time , i called and there was no connection. and after that, we were told that the towers in mariupol were demolished, well, they were fired upon. according to our information, during the first month of the war , about 600 people contacted the ombudsman's hotline. more than 200 residents of mariupol were searched, from who lost touch. constantly, constantly , a plane was circling above the column of cars, constantly, and it ran out of fuel, one flew away, another arrived,
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took its place, that is, you understand, nervous tension, because you understand, he will fire a rocket and that's it. and my girlfriend from mariupol used to take children to our girls, whom i know, then she died, and i was worried that my children would not get there. the boy was constantly taught there for 2.10 months, well, how was my danya at that time, the girls say, he looks like you, well the child died there, i looked around, well , this is always the case and it’s just that there is a relative in the given legs, i, well, thanks to these photos, yes, there are legs, arms, i asked for some and then... look, i say, no, it’s not him , it's not him, it's not she, it's not him, but we only had a radio, and there
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was a dnr radio, and on that dnr radio, we sometimes listened to it, they just said how many settlements were captured , and everything in mariupol, about green corridors. nothing was heard at all. at night, we agreed to open a humanitarian corridor in mariupol. the gathering of people had to happen from 9 to 11. unfortunately, at about 9:20 a hailstorm began. the humanitarian corridor did not work. sasha is brought to the mariupol hospital. in which doctors and dozens of patients still remain. the boy has a chest injury. cage, spine, spinal cord, fracture of the scapula, ribs, and
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a fragment from a projectile passed through his lung, it was lying, i don't remember how many, but it was very scary, the clinic was pounding, it all coincided, people from what they could only make windows, but it all flew out, well, it was cold, it was very cold, i also had a temperature. we went to visit him every day, one or two men at a time, and he lay there on sunday, and then he began to cry and say, take me away from here, because the hospital is being shelled, the fourth floor is gone, the third is already being shelled, here are the corpses under the hospital was getting bigger and bigger, the last time i came to that hospital, there were corpses under the second floor. saving sasha,
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the children return to their own apartment. many videos published at that time indicate that the russians had already occupied and controlled that area fighting is less active. we went somewhere at 6 or 5 in the morning, they put me on a wheelbarrow... my legs so that they wouldn't come off, they tied them to the frame for the front wheel, and then they put a mattress, a pillow under it, covered it him so that he wouldn't freeze, and so we left, well, we understood that he needed help, more qualified than we could give him, everyone agreed that... he is still going to donetsk and that's all, nothing more
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there is no connection with sasha, there is nothing. a local volunteer should take sashka to occupied donetsk, but he leaves the boy in the hospital in novoazovsk. it it was already three o'clock in the afternoon. he comes sms on vyberok, mom, everything is fine with us, we are alive, and maybe someday i will walk, i, well, at first i thought that i was already dreaming or shimmering, well, what i just lost is not the case, i didn't know what to hope for, i was already living, well, yes, as simple as not living, existing, and after... that dinner they gave him the opportunity to communicate via viber, he
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was taken to wi-fi in the intensive care unit, and he, i saw him then for the first time. the next day , sashko is still sent to donetsk. after him karina also leaves with her younger brother. then i wrote to a woman who lived not far from our house, a neighbor, i asked her if she knew such and such, she answered that yes, she did and wrote to tell me that they fell, unfortunately, they died.
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i'm in such a shock, i wonder how they died, i hoped that everything would be fine, i believed, since then i already knew about it, but i continued to look for children anyway. valentina calls all possible hotlines, even to representatives of the occupation authorities of donetsk. her sisters are currently living with their friend dead mother, but a woman cannot leave girls with her for a long time. and we were already taken away in a few days by an ordinary truck, we were traveling with two soldiers, maesniks, you can say so, they took us away, then they started contacting the doctors to take us away, because first of all there were no seats house, and secondly, we needed to be treated, in mariupol the girls
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got ringworm, so first they were brought to the district hospital of novoazovsk. sofia called me from the hospital, i was scared, she had our brother's phone, she had his took away i was scared because my phone said brother. i look at my phone, my hands start to shake. i wonder who is calling me anyway. i was very scared, i thought it was my brother calling me. i so believed that he had come. is somewhere in donetsk, and then i answer, and it is sofia, but i was also very happy that it was sofia.
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they are moving in the direction of zaporizhzhia, the nearest large city in the territory controlled by ukraine. on the way, the russians stop them at a checkpoint. we checked the documents, tattoos, about symbolism, so that nothing happens, and things. and they let go. and there, it turns out, there was a bus behind the checkpoint. well, we reached the city of mangush. there was already a little left and settled in the hospital. the guys decide to rest. and move further on the road, this plan is broken by a local doctor, she finds out that the children are orphans, and calls an official from occupied donetsk. i don't remember what this woman's name is? olena, olena valentynivna, from the children's service from the city of donetsk. she came to us at six o'clock, they took our passports. the woman he mentions
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ivan, my name is olena verbovska. she is the head of... the social service of occupied donetsk. since 2014, verbovska has been taking children from captured territories to rest in camps in russia, to occupied crimea, and to the christmas tree in moscow. that evening, olena verbovska takes ivan and maksym to donetsk, to the fifth children's hospital. we said that we would definitely return to ukraine, every nurse knew about it, and we said that they would come for us... and take us away. while we were in the hospital, the mayor of the city came to us and brought us sim cards to us, and said that it is for us to communicate. told us that our war was over, promised us many things, brought gifts, and that's where this woman from children's affairs was. he said that we will be given a dormitory where we will live, for the same specialty we want, we will study, but these were
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empty words, we understood that this would not be the case. ivan connects to the internet and exits through hotlines. to contact the representatives of the ukrainian authorities, after that the process of returning the boys is launched in ukraine. we discovered that children from mariupol were held in at least nine hospitals in donetsk. not all children needed treatment. some medical facilities were an intermediate point before sending the children further. at first, when we got there, it was calm, quiet, just us. they didn't even notice how someone else moved in next to us, then two more people, then a father drove in with his child,
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more and more people came. this gave the russian federation a trump card that children in a medical institution are there for medical reasons, so what international we can say a crime, this is all a humanitarian action, the rescue of ukrainian children, this is... a point from which children were then redistributed, some were given immediately to a foster family, some were taken to another occupied territory, some could be changed by several hospitals within a certain period of time period of time, someone was deported to the territory of the russian federation and their fate was decided there. kateryna rashevska, lawyer of the regional center for human rights. she collected evidence of the deportation of ukrainian children for the international criminal court. as explains rashevska, later children from other temporarily occupied territories began to be taken en masse to russian hospitals. in order to pick up
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the deported children, relatives had to go to occupied donetsk. otherwise, russian-controlled officials did not agree to hand over the children. the path of relatives had to pass through european countries and russia. there are no checkpoints on the front line. no one wanted to go, everyone was afraid of the fact that there were a lot of incidents, that people, well, went, did not return, or did not arrive, or disappeared, well, a lot they didn't let me out, but they told me that if i went there, well, my ticket was one-way only that my children would stay with the orphans if i went there to pick them up, well, i did n't care anymore, i just... i i was really away from the children for two and a half hours, damn it, i really understand that they were so close to me, tetyana's mother,
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svitlana dubczak, agrees to go pick up the children, she has lived and worked in poland for several years. and where are you going? i say: behind the children, the child is injured. and they say who hurt, from which side? i say i'm sorry, they didn't leave a signature. he told me: "no, no, i won't let you go." i say what, then bring the kids here and i won't go into your territory. only a few manage to bring the children home. there is no single mechanism, neither for parents nor for rights defenders. volunteers of the save ukrain charitable foundation do not reveal the ways in which children are brought in from russia and the occupied territories. however, they have already saved more than hundred children, then with every step we saw
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that the russians were trying to block any channels, informed everyone there and the borders, and scrutinized quite thoroughly, and now our latest missions show that interrogations can last for days. not for hours, this indicates that they are afraid and they oppose, that is , their position today is to oppose any return of children, because they understand that every returned child is a witness to a war crime. we have cases of mariupol, we have cases of other settlements where many crimes were committed by russians, where children were abducted, and these are extremely difficult cases, we continue to work on... on them, but will we succeed return these children, we do not know yet. for anton bilay, who recently moved out of
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mariupol, the question of going after the children does not arise. he is the only state guardian for two orphan children. i understood the degree of risk, but somewhere, probably already at the beginning of may, when we were talking with ivan, he burst into tears. into the phone simply and began to ask: anton viktorovych, i am really begging you, take us away from here, of course, after these words, why not go? no, of course, i could draw up a notarized power of attorney for one of the women, for example, yes it is safer for women to go there, it means shifting their responsibility, no one knows what they will throw away and what can happen and so on, so of course, and since the director, it was necessary to go. around the same time , valentina is also going on a trip to the occupied territories, and she manages to quickly
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arrange custody of the two sisters. after the operation, i was on the female organs. and a week after the operation, i could barely walk and i went to donetsk to pick up my children. i told the doctors: "that's it, i'm going, i need it urgently go, i can't wait." i packed my things and told them to discharge me, i can't anymore, i'm going. and in two days i'm already going to kyiv. i'm getting on a bus and going to... to go to russia and to donetsk, because it was impossible to go by the bus. the boy complains when he asks to be turned over. in the hospital
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, he is also prescribed a diet. without... evidence that, even according to relatives, the boy was planned to amputate my leg, how could i be kept in such a state, i was not, well, i was quite thin, i could only raise my arm, my thin muscles were visible, i don’t know, and according to my wounds, they were processed to the maximum, it's an ointment, the trouble is that when sasha arrived, he said for the first time where his mother works. the head priest said that if we do not find our parents, they will immediately send us to an orphanage, all three of us, the nurses said, remember, we will give you to some russian family, you will if you live there a lot, you will be comfortable there, better than how you lived before.
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local social services have similar plans for sofia and nastya. while valentina goes to pick up her sisters in occupied donetsk, the family comes to meet the girls at the hospital. they wanted to take me away, nastya, no, i was indignant, firstly, why so, secondly, my sister is coming for me, i already told all the doctors about this every day. already during the road to donetsk. gets in touch with svitlana maiboroda, she heads all social services for family and children in the occupied part of donetsk region. they they agree that valentina will take the children. the next day, a call comes from sofia, well, a message: people have come to us, they want to take us away. take sofia away, and leave nastya in the hospital. i say, what are you doing, how
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