industry and that is, well, that is , dual-use goods, and this is quite a serious decision, they went to it for a very long time, they somehow carefully avoided all this, it is clear that this does not directly apply to russia, but also, for example, to us , it will probably be very difficult to get some parts for these, for the same drones, but at the same time there is a very large nomenclature, including er... machines with software and er some chips there electronics and so on and so on, that is , china understands the danger of being under sanctions pressure from europe, and the states are such a thing, the states are clearly in some kind of confrontation and they are somehow trying to get parity, but on the eve of trump's possible coming to power in the states. who is categorically against

the normal trade cooperation of the united states with china, they are afraid of losing the european market, and europe has clearly stated this, by the way, and duda recently, when everyone was there, and before that, all the politicians who appeared, they said: listen, he says, we tie everything to the situation in ukraine, or you change your position, or, well, there will be a problem, we, yes, we, we understand how difficult it will be for us. but you will also have a problem, and the surplus for china is a huge problem, where to put the money and how to cool down their overheated economy, so at some point putin may find himself truly alone with iran and north korea alone with the whole world. by the way i saw the video today i think you saw it too, the north korean exploding... the projectile, well it says

it's a mine, but given that they were sitting on the armor, and there was a gun, so obviously it was some kind of bmp or whatever it was, but in any case it was a north korat shell that exploded, and those people who were sitting there were not russian occupiers, they flew into different parties, or in parts or in some other way, well, the post is under this, that we have here in the svo, the russians say, this is not the first time, why does north korea transfer to us what it does not need, is this some kind of sabotage, or in them in... is it all such weapons, or all such ammunition in north korea, or is it just spit in the side russia, as if, well, you want to give us something that we don't need, but how, how did they gather, there, there are some high technologies, there are technologies of the 50s, where mass was taken not, well, not by quality, but precisely by mass, and in them, well, it broke in during charging.

well, actually, we ran out of time, of course, we could still ask a few questions, but in any case, well, for 30 seconds, but still, what phrase do you expect in washington for ukraine after the results of the nato summit , which will start in four days, there for three, in fact, from the 9th to the 11th, it will last, the ukrainian delegation worked in the united states, it was andriy evrmakh, the head of the president's office, rustem mer, the minister of defense and... the vice-prime minister was also

stefanishna, if i am not mistaken, there, well , that is, will it be possible to prepare something realistically, besides the promised air defense, well, there, by the way, the fourth air defense has already entered ukraine, what what, what we will hear, it is clear that no one will invite us to nato, and there will be no plans for us to cross the border there, and we will start receiving invitations from others countries, but at the same time there are things that can be launched right now. this is the participation of our specialists in the work of nato headquarters, this is the participation of our delegations in the work without the right to vote, that is, on the basis of the rights of the closest partner, this is the inclusion of us in their purchases, and, accordingly, the removal of any reservations regarding the purchase in any nato country of one or another types of weapons and so on and so forth, that is, there are moments for which we need a solution right now, everything else, i think, we will get anyway. well, once again

, your opinion just stirs up the internet, many people add who is in the topic, who, as they say, is not in the topic, but these are emotional things, well, this quarrel has been transferred to the public plane, people's deputy. not a quarrel, accusations against, in particular , colonel-general oleksandr syrskyi, and the ukrainian generalship in general, that here scoops are fighting according to sovkovy vzr, everything is not done that way, and zaluzhny was not like that, now syrskyi is not like that anymore, we don’t know who will be such, or do you think it is an initiative, in particular of this lady, who is a politician and obviously wants to make an even louder political name for herself, are these signs of some other processes, i will not name them to say something wrong, but... please listen to you, well, i am definitely not a psychiatrist, i mean you, you this, you refer it to the field of psychiatry, yes, i studied psychology, but everything related to medical psychiatry is difficult for me, re the reaction of the generals, well, in particular alexander,

the colonel-general and commander-in-chief of syrsky, to this, and is it really forbidden for this particular people's deputy to come to certain positions , i'll just give one example. this will lead to the post of mrs. bezuglai, where she writes that they put their generals in the dnipro there, well, we are talking about soderi, there is another general there, he will fly to the dnipro the next day, it may be related, it may not be related, but it seems that it was not aimed there, but here are things, well, they lead to what they are already saying, please - please, do you know how the russian imperial army ended, with the fact that officers and generals were removed from command, headquarters were created, i don't know committees of soldiers, deputies, and that's all the army finally made a decision, and enough, let's put our bayonets in the ground and go home. i don't want that in the ukrainian army. well, and i am absolutely convinced that a person, as they say, well, this is a completely understandable person,

for whom the army is everything, we are talking about oleksandrasivskyi, not only about him, but, i do not think that he will give understanding his biography, his character, approximately, somewhere, i understand that he will not allow anyone for sure, while he is in office to interfere, command and confuse him and maps and plans, that's what i'm with, i'm convinced of this, thank you very much that you joined us, thank you for your comments, viktor yagon was with us, he is a reserve major general of the security service of ukraine, in any case, you know, any person who comes to office has certain official duties , the sphere of one's responsibility, competent, competence, well, of course, responsibility for irresponsibility is also there, before we... let's move on to the conversation with the next guest , we will have viktor bobarenko, today i offer a plot for your attention. kharkiv guardsman oleg with the call sign was recognized by the noise president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi for the operative rescue of a wounded comrade under fire. for the guard himself, the most important thing is to have enough knowledge

of medical aid so as not to get confused and minimize complications after an injury. he told my colleagues about his combat operations in the klishchivka region of donetsk region. let's listen and see. a wounded fellow soldier from the 80th brigade was carried for several kilometers under mortar fire - the guardsmen remembers the callsign noise, even the name of the rescued soldier noise does not know, only the call sign bison, and most importantly, the fighter survived. he is quite a brave boy, there were no complaints, despite the serious injury, that's all. he helped, well, sometimes how, sometimes in drag, sometimes on his own, sometimes, well, he, too, showed all the efforts he had in order to help us. knowledge from first aid to medical aid, says gvardiyts, agreed already at the first combat sortie, in

the klishchiivka area of ​​donetsk region, at the stabilization point, the noise helped three wounded soldiers. that is, it is not only to put horizontal bars. to evacuate, i i.e., he did a tamponade to one for a cruciate wound, calf, to save his brother's leg. for one of the rescue operations on the front line, the guardsman was recognized by the president of ukraine. he personally congratulated the national guardsmen and presented war awards. fifth, separate slabodzhan brigade, senior soldier oleg. the noise then, oleg recalls, it was necessary to evacuate the wounded soldier from the shelling, go in a group, probably come under enemy fire, the noise went away by itself, the hemostatic bandage and bandage did not manage to stop the blood loss completely,

so it was decided to save part of the leg the decision to rearrange the tourniquet below the knee, ugh. amputation, well, they understood what would happen, and in order to save a larger part of the leg, they rearranged the tourniquet. when the guardsman himself came under mortar fire, he had to walk almost 10 km to the evacuation point with his fellow soldier. the evacuation vehicle could not approach, the enemy shot through the area. as they do, they send a reconnaissance, assault group on a killing spree to burn our positions. we worked on a group of infantry, they discovered. drone on our position and they tried to analyze it, i.e

these are gasses, these are drops, these are semi-drones, these are mortar attacks, despite being wounded, difficult and exhausting combat operations in klishchiivka, the most difficult times for a guardsman, when there was no contact with relatives for several days, at the beginning of the great war, my mother and two sisters found themselves in the temporary occupation in the kharkiv region, but there were cases when... people were grabbed, and then the people were not found. for more than a year, noise has been destroying the occupiers as part of the fifth slobozhan brigade of the national guard of ukraine. for me it was just, well, that's how it should be and that's all, i wouldn't respect myself if we did that. change phage a shooter on a combat medic, until the noise is collected, and the skills of first aid will constantly improve. for a year in the war, he was convinced that this knowledge saves the lives of his comrades in arms. well, honor, honor and

respect only to our soldiers, and in particular to the hero of this plot, who understand why he is there and improves in order to survive himself, destroy enemies and help his brothers and sisters. well, we will now analyze the political scandals of this week. victor. bobarenko, expert of the bureau of policy analysis, with us, mr. viktor, i congratulate you, good health to you, i you know, i will start with you with what we finished with viktor yagun, because it is somewhere on the interface of the troops, politicians, but it is very important, this bringing into the public, as it is the continuation of throwing into the public plane, critics, i will not speak presumptuously and without reason, i'm just saying criticism from the people's side... of maryana bezugla's expenses to the generals, in particular the commander-in-chief, colonel-general oleksandr syrskyi. this is her

own initiative, how long will it last and how do you assess the reaction of the military command, which simply does not give this people's deputation the opportunity to be in certain positions of the armed forces of ukraine. what is it and how should it end in general, so that this story simply disappears, that's all. i will start from the end of it in position. it cannot be allowed, because she is not a military expert, even though she is a member of parliament, her task is to write laws, to improve the regulatory framework, including for the armed forces of ukraine, in order for the mobilization to take place smoothly, to influence politics somewhere, but nothing to jackets, even more so jacket, well, i don't want to be sexist, but jackets are also in skirts, you shouldn't hang around there. in the trenches, especially since i know from many soldiers, when the soldiers say that there is trouble, there is a big trouble, or there is in general,

when maryanov arrives, when one of the deputies, who is assigned to replace him, drops out, at least in the brigade , this is a press officer for sure, and this is a bunch of all kinds of people who bring her one place, so that she, well, now with her, if, well, i'm trying... not to pay attention, at the beginning of the war in in the 22nd year, she climbed and wanted more draw and show arrows on the map, tell whom, how to fight. maryana bezugla is not an expert in military affairs, i generally have a hard idea of ​​her whether she is an expert in the profession in which she has a diploma of higher education, because i, for example, would not trust any of my relatives to treat her, this sure, but... we have to understand that maryana bezugla is just a torpedo from

the president's office, and she is the voice of the president's office, yes, maryana says what zelensky yermak cannot say, and i think that the main goal of maryana bezuglai is this just to discredit the army, why, because they cannot be involved in ukraine's failures. on the battlefield, the supreme commander-in-chief is to blame, he must be to blame, well , before it was the luzhnyi, now it is the syrian one, and we remember how a year ago there... we wanted to attack horlovka there, a year ago, at this time , he was pushing, pushing, for us in the south to advance, and we did advance, creating an unprecedented in military history, when without superiority in artillery and air, we did advance, if anyone wants to say that

was our defeat, then i will tell you that it was, it was a universal experience, and if it was... well, maybe it was a pyrrhic victory, but it was still a victory, and there are no great defeats in the modern ukrainian army, but now there are no big victories and zelensky does not want it to be associated with him, so it must be associated with syrsky, with someone else, whether sodel was removed there rightly or wrongly, but he was removed so quickly that it is scary, something like that it was a blank for me, well... i won't say that now, because i don't know, for sure, but sooner or later we will find out, but we must understand that maryana bezugla is a tool in the hands of the president's office and a tool aimed at discrediting the military, why? because once again zelensky has changed his rhetoric and he already admits that we

will suffer heavy losses, that whether there will be a victory there or not, yes, that’s right... a year ago i already said that the borders of 1991 changed the rhetoric there, and so we have to say, so what, volodymyr oleksandrovich, they promised so, and now what are we going to agree to putin's conditions or come to an agreement somewhere in the middle again in the middle of ukraine, and not in the kerch strait, that's how we will agree, and for this he needs to have arguments, he will say: well, look, this is a bad army, a bad army, listen to the slapper. says, and maryana says this, and by a strange coincidence , aristovych says the same thing, you understand that our army is like that, that the russians have learned to fight there, and we haven't, so-so, and we , we teach those who teach russian, like that somewhere, but this must be very

clearly understood, the attack on the office of the president is now happening to the armed forces of ukraine. in order to desacralize it, yes, discredit it, if you like. speaking of arestovych, i think that one more person can join him, well, by the way, to be honest, i never knew him, but it turns out that he is an actor, an instagrammer and an actor of the 95th quarter, ruslan khanumak, recently left for the border during martial law, said that he left because of the betrayal of his six-year-old son, there is a separate and... his family, but i will not get into that now, he says that he was released officially, because the laws do not i am breaking, by the way, i am not breaking any laws either, and me, well, i went abroad, actually once with literary activity, but i had the permission of the cult, i returned, as they say, but i did not write or tell that but now i'm here, but now, well, there are reasons, but i don't

want to spin the story further now, because it 's not worth it, but it just leads to the fact that arestovych has, if he is there now in the usa. remains, there will still be people who will obviously join in telling how it is worth, how it should be, to protect life, i am not against it, really one must protect life and generally look at the world differently, and i would like you to see this, because this is a political science topic, there is another one about this scandal with ms. stefanishno's assistant, whom she already fired, who scolded and simply did not want to humiliate a veteran in odessa, but humiliated himself, and there will be time, we will also raise this topic. because this is symptomatic for society now and society's reaction is symptomatic of rudeness towards a veteran, especially one who was injured in the war and lost both legs, but i would like you to comment differently, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi in an interview, again to the bloomberg publication, said that when answering a journalist's question, he said about yeremak andrii, the head

of the president's office, he does what i say, that's what, why did he say that... , why is it important, i don't, i don't know how actually, i think you don't know how they actually have this communication over there, but why is the president saying this now, and is it really possible, well, it is and no, because zelensky, unfortunately, does not know the deep ukrainian mentality, and ukrainians have a very cool proverb that hides this very topic... very, very tellingly, the proverb sounds like this: as the father says, so the mother will do, well, we must understand that in... . the science of management, well, they make a very clear distinction, someone makes decisions, so zelensky makes these decisions somewhere on decrees, on laws, his signatures, his autograph, and

accordingly irmak later, if you present something to him, he will say: where my signature, at least on the tender documentation, at least somewhere , it's not my fault, i came myself, that's it but zelensky signs the post, but i will tell you that before the decisions... are made, they are discussed somewhere, they are somewhere, well, someone, so that they do not think that it is zelensky himself, sits down and writes a decree, for example, about the appointment of someone, well, let's imagine the situation, someone is appointed as the head of the regional military administration, yes, in some ensk region, that's what zelenskyi said, anu yermak, i'm preparing a decree, i'll sign it now, and we think, yes, he gives an order, but maybe it wasn't like that at first... come on and says: volodymyr oleksandrovich, a casting has been announced, you are a theater person, that is, you need some kind of theatrical or cinematographic terminology, yes, they use it there,

a casting has been announced for such and such an area, there are several applicants, but i recommend so-and-so, so-and-so, such a thing, what he is, look, here is his portfolio, here is the laundry, and zelensky then says already there, appoint, i give the order, and himself, himself now. i will tell the americans that it was i who gave this order, will you believe it, but after all, someone was brought to the casting, and maybe someone was brought who was needed yermak, but they brought maybe not the best, but a loyal, and loyal yermak, yes, or there may still be that yermak was imposed, because he also says to someone below, well, who has any candidates, and right then and there ran in, but this is roughly how it goes, or if you take some there, well, the same law on mobilization, or the law, when he was there it was necessary to reduce the draft age by two years and zelenskyi did not

sign the year, it was zelenskyi who decided , can yermaks be there for him podalyak advised that volodymyr oleksandrovich is there, we are there held focus groups, it doesn't work there, it doesn't work in this target group, they won't accept it there, and their mothers won't accept it, so let's wait... maybe somehow it will collapse by itself, and that's how zelenskyi made this decision , but by whom it was imposed, it was imposed by the environment, and we have a situation where zelensky says that five or six effective managers help me rule the country, and it turns out that the most effective of them is yermak, then in our country trouble, because a thought is imposed on him, he then makes a decision, so he makes the decision, and he can say: yes, i signed it, not yermak, look there like boborenko there, it’s winter, look, i didn’t sign it, i make this decision, yes, but vasya

, i will prove it, but in reality it turned out, as my father would say, so it will be, as zelenskyi will say, so it will turn out according to yermakovsky, here we have a model of governance in the country, but in any case, the president said and now... be that as it may, we all clearly understand that yermak is a manager, as the president said, powerful, but his manager, who does what he tells him, and this is in principle, well, we now understand, no matter what, i do not know, we do not want to know, to be honest , i now understand that the head of my state, and he decides, and this is important for understanding, well, how to carry out his orders and wishes is another question, let him ask from those people. which he appointed, so it will be, well, and literally very briefly, we still have five minutes there, i want us, after all, for you to react to this story that happened in odessa, there where

scolded a veteran doctor, a veteran doctor, a person who worked as an adviser to deputy prime minister stefanishyna, again, now i will not throw any stones at her in her garden, especially now she is engaged in an important matter there, preparing for ukraine's participation in nato summits and so on. well, but such a person was in her office, she behaved very disgustingly, vadym shevylenko, and scolded the doctor , a veteran of the armed forces of ukraine, oleksiy prytula, because he examined his dog, but it caused, well, you are like the king of life, well, you think so, and you you think that there, well, what are you there, you know, but the reaction of society immediately and he was released, and somewhere there they started, i know some. the military is already looking to talk, no one is planning to beat him there or, well, just talk, that we need to understand how it happened that in the third year of the war you are behaving like this in relation to a veteran, who cares about

your health . actually gave away part of his health, but he was not at the address that was immediately made public there, well, actually, this story is so far, but this reaction of society showed that well, there will be no, no tolerance for those people who consider themselves masters of life in such situations, because everything has already changed, the only question is whether such people will at least someday understand that everything has already changed, please, such people. .. they will never understand this, they will understand only after tough conversations, when they will walk around with bruises, for example, then maybe some people will begin to realize that social status in the state of ukraine has long been no longer measured by whose you will be, yes, that you are a person there stefanishyna, are you close to the 95th quarter, our social status is measured by others, what you have done for society, what you have done, not whose you will be, but what you have done, what you... can,

of course, very often any social statuses can be inflated, and we understand that even among the military there can be scoundrels, well, because the army is a mirror of society, but the most important thing for us is that we know and found out that we have respect for those who do in ukraine, in society is higher than those who, er, drive some cool cars, that is eh... a cool car is already there, well, it is not a subject of social status there, yes, and some position is not a subject of social status at all, it is, well, it is the same as vasyl zyma, a writer, and we understand that there very often well, writers are not rich people themselves, but they have some influence on society, and there through their prose works, through their poems, i always tell students this, and who was...

shevchenko in 1848, who knew him there, everyone knew , general anshef bibik, bibikov, who was the governor of kyivskii there, who is now except for a very specific historical cohort of specialists there, who knows who was then the general governor of kyiv, yes, but everyone knows taras shevchenko, that is, social status is very momentary, and people's lives are a pursuit of social status, but i would... . to these hideous young frogs, i would still recommend equalizing their status and equating it to worthy people, but i repeat, people who do not have their own dignity do not value the other, and for them the status is in something else, and in something else, in wheelbarrows, there in grandmothers, there still in children, well, that's it that's it, and the very end, let's finish the topic of conversation with the fact that next week

the nato summit is to be held, which phrase, we won't go into detail there now, the door is wide open for ukraine and so on and so forth, what phrase will we hear, and this call of the president, that we have people, you say ukraine must fight, ukraine is fighting, what it can, it does, realizing that its entire territory is being shot at by the enemy, and where is such a production in us it wasn't, someone can pass it on, well, listen, we live, we have the whole territory is shot at by the enemy, but we can provide people, we have brigades, we train them, we have... no weapons for the brigades, what do you think, this nato summit, maybe we will get some kind of change in this matter, because this is not the first story , when we have people, but there is a lack of weapons, and we will definitely receive military support, we would like it sooner, well, as it turned out, the west, as it turned out, is going straight along gogol for a very long time, but i hope it will go quickly, eh, and therefore, in terms of the military plan, we we will get all the beggars we want, but in the political plan we

we get... not exactly what we hope for, and what the president's office hopes for, but the blame for this diplomatic failure is entirely on the president's office, we have a diplomatic failure in this case, why, because in the west they are very loved and respected the state of ukraine, but this does not apply to the government of this state, and even to the actual leadership, that is, the world. our president and his gray cardinal andriy yermak are not respected very much. well, literally for 30 seconds, in your opinion, valery zaluzhnyi will become popular in great britain, and maybe already they will also wear the badges of master yodylo in london, at least, or perhaps not only. i...