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the girl is in the kherson region, but it is not possible , but it is possible that this program will be seen on the internet by the residents of naked pier, so i am asking you, if you know at least some information about katya sviridova, let us know on the hotline at 16:30. you can also write to the chatbot of the children's search service in telegram. please do not remain indifferent. also in the kherson region and also at the beginning of full-scale. invasion, this guy disappeared, his name is kyrylo selivanov, he is 17 years old and he disappeared in the temporarily occupied village of gladkivka, this in fact, not far from the bare pier, where katya sviridova, whom i spoke about at the beginning, is from. i ask you to look carefully at the boy's face, maybe you will recognize him. unfortunately, there is no news about him since february 2022. of course, it is possible that kirill could have been taken to... russia, as unfortunately
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often happens with children in the occupied territories, but this is only an assumption, and in fact the boy may still remain in the occupation. so i am asking absolutely everyone, and yet, especially residents of the occupied part of the kherson region. look carefully at photo of a boy if you recognize him, do not delay and please notify us immediately on the hotline of the child tracing service at the short number 11630. call. from all mobile operators in ukraine are free, if it is inconvenient or there is no way to call, you can write to us on the website or in the chatbot of the child search service in telegram. let's not be indifferent and let's do everything possible together to find the missing boy. i really hope that everything is fine with kata sviridova and kirill selivanov, that they are alive, healthy and we are with your help in... and by the way, it may well be
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that a girl and a boy, for example, together with someone from their relatives, fleeing from the war ended up in one of the european countries. so please remember this number 11630. this is the only european missing children hotline that works in 28 european countries. and therefore, if you are in one of the european countries and suddenly see a girl and a boy who look like katya sviridova like this. immediately notify kyryl silivanov on the short number 116 30. let's do everything possible together to find missing katya and kirill. i have told only two of the many difficult stories of children who have gone missing. you can find information about all the boys and girls we are trying to find on the children's search service website. here is a photo of the children. who
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your place is waiting for you, the light remains on, for dinner, what you love, a warm bed is made, there will be walks, swings. and bathing, they are waiting for you on your street, at school, in your church, because in your house they see dreams about you, you are always in front of their eyes, behind
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they cry for you, they pray for you, we didn't give up, because we knew that you... are already somewhere nearby, half the battle is knowing how hard victory is given, and we will do everything to hug you as soon as possible, so when you are home, when we are together, we are more than a family, we are... a nation united around you.
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glory to ukraine, dear tv viewers, on espresso tv channel, west studio program. we will analyze the most important events of this week, in particular, we will analyze the big putin kurultai in astana with the participation of representatives of turkey, china and... and so further and at the same time we will try to outline the parameters of the polish-ukrainian security agreement. our guests today are the iconic polish politician bohdan borusevych, as well as the famous political scientist who is in prague, oleksandr morozov. and now bohdan borusewicz, a legendary polish politician, marshal of the polish senate from 2005 to 2015 and now a senator, will work on the espresso tv channel. greetings, mrs. marshavko, in the espresso studio. good day to you, good day to the audience. first of all , i would like to ask you how you assess the situation with yes so-called security guarantees for ukraine. we understand that this is a very difficult matter, negotiations are ongoing between eu countries, nato members, and of course, a security agreement between poland and ukraine is currently on the table. actually, how do you see this structure? i am
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a supporter of political and military ties between ukraine and poland. and it's not just about deals, i think it's worth going further. of course, with the support of the americans, but we can stabilize this part of europe if we act together here, we are not talking about the formula of this relationship, but it should be a very close connection, then we will be able to stabilize this part of europe, because russia will continue to be a serious country, and russia has shown itself to be an aggressive country, revisionist, without a sense of borders, so we have a common interest here. that is, i believe that these guarantees should ensure common interest. this is not a one-way guarantee, but also a guarantee from ukraine. for poland. this is how you need to think, this is how you need to analyze it. but you also know this,
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no guarantees will help if ukraine does not protect itself, because in the end there were no guarantees the form of the agreement when ukraine gave up nuclear weapons. i remember how at that time the americans made sure that those nuclear weapons returned to russia. in general, they were worried that the suitcase would go somewhere and fall into the hands of terrorist groups. but so what, the guarantees for ukraine are just arms deliveries, and i believe that it is necessary to go further, and poland should think, we should jointly think about some kind of alliance with the support of the americans. without such support, we will simply be thrown out of nato, and with support, the americans will then be able to move to asia, because eventually it will come naturally and all the politicians are talking about it, not only trump, but also biden is talking about it. that american interests are primarily in asia at this moment, the problem of competition with china is not
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rivalry, no, but competition, serious competition, so if we went in that direction, everyone would be satisfied. actually, a lot will depend on the so-called political elites, we are talking about specific people in warsaw and kyiv. we had a few difficult months, and i didn't fully understand for myself what had happened, it was about some kind of cooling of relations between by president duda and president zelensky, it is about a meeting at the united nations in the united states. now it seems that the climate may have improved, and there is a chance again to continue polish-ukrainian cooperation in the field of security. but i want to say that there is a certain imbalance between poland and ukraine. and in that question, i noticed it: in poland, the prime minister and the government are in charge, not the president. the power is in the hands of the prime minister, who has the level of power. to the chancellor. the president controls the sphere of security and the sphere of defense, has
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as well as competence in the field of foreign policy. mostly in the matter of appointing ambassadors. and that's all. instead, all power over the army, also over the security forces, that is, over the police, over the services, is concentrated in the prime minister. this should be remembered when we talk about president zelenskyi and president duda here. president zelensky has much more power here, in fact he has dictatorial power, but the president in poland does not. and what would it look like then? and why am i talking about this? because the election time has come in poland, and the presidential party, that is, the right and justice, lost the election. and at this moment there is a completely different government. so, if we talk and see, with whom we need to talk and decide now, then it is with the government and the prime minister. with tusk, well, how do you assess the situation between the polish
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and ukrainian governments, between the polish and ukrainian authorities, because it is necessary to continue cooperation and possibly raise it to a completely different, higher level. the current government in poland is a civil coalition, of which i am a member, the dominant party, and this is actually the government of the coalition. it is also necessary to remember that prime minister tusk should take into account the opinion of the coalition partners. and the same with regard to what concerns ukraine. fortunately, we continue the policy that concerns ukraine, the policy that was started immediately, the policy of support, military and political. military-wise, it means that we have handed over more tanks to ukraine than the whole of western europe put together. in fact, a huge number, about 500 tanks, more than 50 powerful and modern howitzers. 2,000 starlinks, over 500 power generators, and that's just to name a few. the most important for ukraine is
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military aid and support, of course, but also political, that is, support for eu membership. and we give full support here. and support for joining nato. for poland, joining nato was much easier than joining the european union. because joining nato is a political decision. the army should be led by a civilian. that army must be adapted, but there is a beginning of adaptation to nato standards, and it is possible to join. and joining the european union is the adaptation of the entire economy to the standards of the european union. these are negotiations that concern the transition period. and of course, negotiations related to the issue of grain. negotiations, negotiations. for example, when we had negotiations, we secured a long... period during which there was a ban on the sale of land to foreigners, if suddenly someone
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was afraid of it. grain, grain, mr. marshalka. back to the grain, what do you want when it comes to grain? and what will happen to the european union market, which is open to ukraine, but there is still a separate position of polish farmers and the polish government. we must take this into account, because we must also take into account the interests of our citizens. and there will be a discussion, something will need to do. and how intense this discussion will be, mr. marshalka. must take into account the interests of both parties, and it is quite possible that a transition period will be needed, since we have a ban on the transfer of polish labor, that is, workers from poland, in the eu for the purchase of land, and it worked, those fears disappeared after a couple of years, but surely you want to ask me about the grain, what is the situation at
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the border at the moment, the current situation, will the so-called activists return? they are not there, and you know, if we keep an eye on it and often negotiate, then they will not return, but what is the situation now? there are no blockades at the moment, there are no blockades, and you also know that in poland at the moment there is no grain, that means there is no grain, we are waiting for the new harvest, and it will be, then we will have grain, because now.. . we do not have grain in poland, we exported 14 million tons. i recently spoke with a colleague who specializes in this. and actually asked him, he says: there is no grain in poland, we lack grain. i say, then we will buy in ukraine, he answers, which ukraine also does not have, because ukraine exported 24 million tons. fortunately, there will be
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a harvest in the near future, but i will realize the time. the price of grain decreased, farmers claimed and complained that this was due to the influx of ukrainian grain, and it was because the price of grain in world markets also decreased, and that government told farmers: do not sell this grain now, because it will be more expensive in the fall. meanwhile, in the fall, the price of grain decreased, so it was easy to explain here, to develop such a theory that it was because of ukrainian grain, or because of russian grain. so, this is the situation at the moment zero, but it is worth preparing for possible actions. of course, because we are entering the process of negotiations with the european union and we understand that poland has its voice, and poland will defend its
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interests, of course, ukraine will defend its own. yes, and it is necessary to reach something. but the most important thing. these national interests would not collide. no, interests are not such selfishness, although, of course, there are those who say, it must be, i must earn from it. yes, huge money, billions of euros. yes, but of course, during the negotiations, ukrainian agriculture, which is very powerful, is a problem. we have to come to an agreement here, because this is agriculture, where artificial fertilizers are not used at all, because there are chernozems. i see protective means for plants are used, and because of this, the price of such grain can be much lower. ukraine's accession to the eu also means additional payments, also for ukrainian agriculture. we have additional payments per hectare, approximately €250. we already have average surcharges in europe, but we started with lower ones. but if
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ukrainian agriculture enters, will it be possible to keep these additional payments at the same level? because... yes, it's true, and our farmers, especially large-scale farmers who make money from it, will try to protect the level of technical subsidies, because it is billions of euros, it must be understood, but negotiations, conversations and so on are needed here. in a democracy, nothing can be done by force, but there must be consultation mechanisms and communication mechanisms between the polish and ukrainian authorities. i'm not necessarily talking about any open consultations, but between the president of ukraine and, for example, prime minister tusk, right? we were expecting a meeting, but it was delayed a little in time, as far as we understand, for various reasons. what would the situation look like now, mr. marshalka, what are the prospects for the growth of this diplomatic-political-economic activity. we are active diplomatically, but
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we are also building our position in the european union. because we have lost this position. we are rebuilding the so-called weimar triangle, this is the meeting of poland, germany and france, and the role of poland has increased due to the fact that we are the country on the ukrainian front, the closest to ukraine, aid goes to ukraine through us, because the hungarians blocked it, a little through romania, but the majority of grain exports go through us, through romania, while the military equipment goes through poland, this is not a secret, i am saying what the russians know very well, but we, we politicians, are telling this to our colleagues and i told my ukrainian colleagues now, should talk and discuss what will happen after the war, how polish-ukrainian relations will develop, what we want, what we want those relations to look like, whether it should only be some general principle, as at this moment,
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or we should treat ukraine better, ukraine is our neighbor and ally, so we have a greater interest in cooperation with ukraine than, for example, the germans, who have more funds and will have more funds, but have a smaller national interest. and that's understandable. italy, spain are far away, and so are others . there is a different interest and a different attitude in the european union. it should all be centered. this is not always the case, because everyone looks after their own interests. in the union, the basis is understanding, consensus. because if everyone will fight to the end for their own, the eu will collapse. there is no such thing union however, everyone will get something. and we will benefit from the union, i agree with you, but this will also be a benefit for ukraine, because it is the case that the eu provides security, not only
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nato, but the european union, because these are multilateral economic ties, financial, as well as cultural. so you have to remember that i am much more complicated than nato. for ukraine , nato now looks more difficult, because it is in conflict and wants to be. accepted into nato and constantly strives for it, and what does joining nato mean? the fifth article, the most important. yes, that means bringing article five into effect, that is, entering the war, but not in the way that we give weapons, introduce our soldiers, and we understand this well, and the ukrainians also understand this well, and here we have slightly different interests, because ukraine would like to bring it to this. our goal, mr. marshalka, is to defeat the russians, and it is, in the near future, this means that we must involve as much as possible different equipment, it is about aviation, air defense systems and so on, and there was such an idea to, for example,
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use polish air defense systems in order to cover the western cities of ukraine. i i have been thinking about this for a long time, and i am a supporter of such a decision, because it is not known whether a rocket that flies to lviv will fall in poland, in lublin, for example, or in rzeszów. well... this, this is known. yes, that is why we must defend ourselves here and, on occasion, of course, defend ukraine as well. but this question is also for some intergovernmental agreements on defense and so on. because we cannot just shoot over ukraine. why? and, for example, if there was an agreement with the ministry of defense, with the general staff, it must be. and her at the moment no? of course, there is no such agreement. however. cannot shoot at another country without permission, without an agreement, even for its protection, they keep saying, putin says that poland wants to occupy a western
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country, they keep talking about it, i remember this conversation from zherinovsky, but i wrote a letter , i talked with the russians then and told them well: no, no, give something of your own, for example, the kaliningrad region, and not someone else's. give us smolensk, give the russians smolensk to us. no, smolensk is far away, and the kaliningrad region, so give us something our own, and we will even share with the lithuanians ourselves, but you understand that this is an attempt at division, quite primitive, but we talked here about actions over ukraine, but the main thing is that the patriots, who are already near the ukrainian border, in the vicinity of rzeszów, he is an american patriot, and american. but
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the americans will not agree to this, because they do not agree to far-reaching strikes on the territory of russia. now it has progressed very well, that it is possible to attack, attack the territory of russia within at least 100 km near the border through kharkiv, because otherwise the russians shelled it without any ... losses for themselves and abroad, destroyed the city, the russians went far away, and this is the american response, but the patriot batteries stationed in rzeszów are subject to the decisions of the american commanders. american leadership decides whether to shoot and where to shoot. we do not have such an opportunity. but poland still has its own patriot system. you know, poland has fewer patriots than ukraine. at this moment, so i will say generally, we don't have any, and we are now returning to the system of protecting the ukrainian sky with forces poland and possibly not only poland, and to
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the possibilities. to poland, yes, the capabilities of poland and the capabilities of nato, that is, we need, so yes, we gave the mig-29, we gave these planes, the problems are like this, you will have problems with missiles for the f-16. with the cover of those airfields, the defense of the airfields, we have to talk, discuss, but it is obvious that military experts are needed here, but those planes, those f-16s, must be protected, because there is no sense in these planes... being destroyed within three months , the war is on and this plane is not extraordinary, it is a good plane, but no extraordinary, because it can also be destroyed, just like american tanks, because i repeatedly, when i watch ukrainian television, suddenly there is a wave, there was a wave of bairaktars, they are amazing, then tanks, abrams, abrams, but also leopards, it looked like that , it was shown,
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the public was told, this weapon was begged... not destroyed, every weapon can be destroyed and f-16s can be destroyed too, and they will be destroyed, but you have to prepare to just protect them, and you have to know where to put them. i once said that in a country with mountains, such things happen are located on underground bases that are difficult to destroy, and the russians have already warned that if they are located on the territories of neighbors, that is, poland, then such bases will be under attack, that is, russia will attack them. i think that such a situation may arise, what macron said will become relevant. and did poland join this french proposal, or the decision, if such a situation happened.
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polish said. that no, but maybe still will change, but i think that such a sharp denial is not good, let the russians not they know to the end how we will behave, no one wants to go to the front, so while it is possible and while it is effective, we should help with the weapons that ukraine needs, it's just that the situation in the states can change, mr. marshalko, trump can come, and of course , that macron and not only macron are thinking about the situation that will happen in a few months. but then the european union will unite, there will be a deeper consolidation of the european union both in the military sphere and in relation to foreign policy, but pace, pace, pace, i know, in terms of pace, we value it very much in ukraine, for example, the aid to poland, because it was done quickly, lightning fast, very quickly, yes, while in brussels only documents were written, so that calls were made between brussels and berlin.
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yes, but such help should be supported by society, because it can do more harm than good. but i will tell you, i look at ukrainian men who are in poland, young men, it causes a negative reaction from poles. we in ukraine are ready to accept them, but would poland be ready to give them or help us get them. about this we need to talk, but this is also an issue that is ... interest, because those men are working, you know, if we lose them, then whole sectors of the economy, for example, construction, will fall apart, you need to weigh everything, but as for me, the key thing for poland is to support ukraine, and everything should be subordinated to this, both our political decisions and what we do abroad, because this is the most important thing, and why, it is clear, it is
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obvious, putin is... a zionist, he undermines all principles of international law, he pursues a policy of aggression, but he does not pursue his goals clearly outlines its goals very vaguely, so we must do the same, respond, maybe yes, maybe not, if there is such a need, the most important thing is the readiness of the army and the capacity, communication, logistics and capacity, i agree with you, and would like to ask, for example, about the fate of the polish-lithuanian-ukrainian joint brigade, a few days ago i spoke with bohdan... klich, the former minister of defense of poland, he said that there is a good prospect for creating, for example, from this brigades of the division, and perhaps even the military corps, polish-lithuanian-ukrainian, what were the bans? as a political slogan, it is a good slogan. this polish-lithuanian-ukrainian brigade was created in a different situation, i remember the moment of its creation, i supported it, because it is really business.

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