examples course only from uah 799, the offer is limited, call! the news editors are ready to talk about... the main thing for this hour is with you anayeva melnyk, greetings to all viewers. it is becoming another city of interest on the ukrainian map. radio svoboda showed what the kanal microdistrict looks like in the abyss of time from a bird's eye view. not a single surviving house remained in ruins. on july 4, let me remind you, our military confirmed that the russians occupied this part of the city. battles during the time of yar continue. two

dead in donetsk region, eight more residents were wounded, in ukrainian, the russians were hit by hurricanes and tornadoes, one person was killed , three others were injured, one private and six high-rise buildings were damaged, as well as garages, new york was attacked by the enemy with artillery, one person was killed, three were injured and one was injured in a starry and temporal ravine, - reported the regional police. the russians dropped an air blockade on mykhailivka. destroyed five houses in toretsk, the occupiers attacked an apartment building and a shop with kabam 250 along nivychyna. during the day , the enemy shelled 16 settlements daughters four residents of kherson oblast were killed by the russians in a day, and three more were wounded. three people died in the beryslav district, and one more in the village of dniprovske, bilozersk community. at night, the occupiers shelled the central part of the city of kherson. arose fire, they

were extinguished, the cafe burned down. during the day, the enemy attacked 17 towns and villages of the region, destroying residential quarters, administrative buildings, a public catering establishment and a store, reported the head of the region oleksandr prokudin. a high-rise building with 10 private houses and cars was damaged. burning and exploding already at 5 o'clock, an ammunition depot in the voronezh region of russia, they even introduced an emergency situation there. as the local governor reported, after the night attack of several drones , the detonation of ammunition began. the russians traditionally claim that they destroyed all the drones and that the fire was caused by debris, but the authorities prepared to evacuate the population from the pidgorensky district, propagandist media reports. tragedy in transcarpathia: two teenagers drowned. in the village

of batrat. four friends aged 10-12 were walking when one of them slipped and fell into the water. later, she swam out, but the girls, who dived in for the rescue, died, the state emergency service reported. and in the ivano-frankivsk region in the village of dubivtsi. a 27-year-old man drowned. his belongings were discovered by fellow villagers on the banks of the dniester river and reported to the rescuers. they searched with the help of drones and rescue boats. ukrainian scouts destroyed two important russian military facilities in the occupied part of donetsk region. the photo was published by gur. the logistics center in debaltseve, where the invaders stored equipment for tanks and ammunition, as well as valuable russian an automated obstacle installation station called a resident in novoluhansk. love for the sake of escaping from the country. a 42-year-old resident

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the head of the board of the crimean rights group. i congratulate you, mrs. olga. good day. and akhtem cheygos, former political prisoner, people's deputy, will also be with us in the studio. and the first deputy chairman of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on human rights issues of de-occupation and reintegration of the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine. mr. artem, i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. i want to start our conversation by understanding how many ukrainian civilians are in captivity in the russian federation. according to confirmed official data, we are talking about almost 1,700 people, but some public organizations say that this figure reaches 60 000. ms. ogliu, well, actually, to begin with, i want to. to ask you, how is it possible to determine the number of ukrainian civilians who are prisoners

in the occupied territories? the main problem, if we are talking about the specified numbers , is that russia does not report these numbers in general, it does not confirm them, it does not admit in general that it is holding civilians, that is why there is such a big difference in the numbers, some of them are based, for example, on the register of missing persons, of which there are already more than 30,000, and this is only about civilians, and it is clear that a significant part of them are prisoners. in principle, the last figures given by the same coordination headquarters were that the language against civilian prisoners could reach 20 thousand people who are in various places of detention, well, it is clear that it is illegal, that is, in fact, these are people who were kidnapped, that is why there is such a difference in numbers, and each public organization has its own registers of who works with these territories, like ours, for example, the crimean human rights group, but we document only what is possible to somehow confirm, and we see that, for example, when even in the crimea they... take the occupiers of our people, kidnapped from the north, then many of them are in the stage, well,

let's say, in such a status of incomikada. russia does not confirm them, neither to the ukrainian side, nor to the families, nor to the red cross there, to any international organizations, so actually you and i will not be able to name a final figure, because in principle, russia simply hides this figure. mr. agtem, here is a question for you, what to do with this, how should we calculate the number of our captured civilians. need to continue everything that has been done for so many years, because as it is rightly said, it is impossible to monitor every person there, it is tens of thousands of people, and many of them we do not know and cannot monitor, it also depends on the civilians themselves , who got into this or that situation, and besides, of course there are... those who try to take advantage of this situation, no, there is not

enough, let's say, enough reasons to be considered there, these are our flights by people, or politically politically. because politically motivated - this is an even larger layer of people who are under repression, so this work, alas, can only be carried out more widely by public organizations, and the state, the state? it works according to a specific scheme, that is, there is a specific person, there are specific

specific data and it records them, well, it is impossible to use any mechanisms, i recently heard a story, now i will check it as much as i can, we have a commission at the ministry of defense, yes, what ee... which recognizes those or others as prisoners so that the state can to help, yes, and there are some, as i was told that some ee services give thousands of lists, i just heard about it now. but i will check it, not because for now we will assume that this is not illegal

information, that is , there are also such and such moments in this matter, i would say where it is clear to define one or another person as a hostage, but either... . to the prisoners, it is not so simple, actually, ms. olga, you have been dealing with this topic for quite some time, and as far as i know, you are also talking about... the fact that it is very difficult to define and prove to a person that he was in captivity, and it is said that sometimes there are cases when a person tries to pretend that he was in captivity in order to receive some kind of compensation. can you somehow comment on mr. akhtem's words now. well, i 'll start by saying that we've really had this problem since the 14th year, actually, when

crimea was occupied, and when the occupation of donbas began, if people could find any documents in crimea. because of the same criminal cases of the russian federation or illegally created courts, that is, there were at least some there verdicts that we do not recognize, but this is a confirmation, the situation has worsened significantly for civilians, especially after the 22nd year, because we have part of the newly occupied territory, where, in principle, the russian federation has now , as it were, built some kind of judicial system there, but mostly civilians, when they catch them, they do not provide any documents that can confirm it, that is, when people are kept in torture chambers, tortured, abused. rape, then it is clear that the russians will not write a certificate about it and will not hand it over to a person, so it turns out the problem is that if you confirm the capture, you still need to provide at least something to confirm it, those who, for example, have convictions or some criminal cases, they provide at least these documents, and this is enough to confirm , but still the majority of those who apply, they do

receive this status, we are talking about the commission that establishes the fact of deprivation of liberty as a result of russian aggression, it has existed for many years. but from the 22nd year it was restarted, because it came into full force the corresponding law, which guarantees the protection of just such people deprived of their liberty as part of aggression, and i am actually a member of the commission, but not from the state, but from public organizations, we have four public organizations there that work just as we do directly as much as possible in the occupied territories, we collect information, all state bodies, and it is the commission that establishes all this information, therefore, for the most part, we have positive decisions in terms of the fact that, for the most part, the commission is just the opposite. confirms, but it is necessary to understand that in this the commission is addressed not only by civilians, but also by prisoners of war. the commission considers the same ones, why, because the law in our country defines several categories. the first is prisoners of war, they also have the right to establish this fact of deprivation of liberty, to receive appropriate assistance from the state. and civilians. as for civilians, we have two groups, the first one, which mr. akhtem just

mentioned, these are political prisoners, as it often happens, they are called, but these are people who, precisely as a result of their activities, with... for their activities, journalists , law enforcement officers, for example, there are people who collected some information about violations of people's rights and so on, or, for example, they are crimean tatar activists, members of the crimean tatar people's mejlis, and that's why they were imprisoned, so we usually call them the media, she as a political prisoner, this is one subcategory of civilians, the second is, in general, in principle, what is currently in the dark, especially in the newly occupied territories, these are any civilians who are captured by the russian federation in order to force either this person and... or, for example, the state, or some bodies to take some actions, well, that is, in fact, when they grab our people, torture them there for connections with the armed forces of ukraine, or with the sbu and so on, demand to admit something, or in general encourage ukraine, for example, well in the future, this can be an incentive for negotiations, yes, certain exchanges, something else, that is, we are dealing with a terrorist state, and the russian federation

can easily arrest people and increase these lists for some of its desires, which it usually has. that's what always hurts us, that's why we have to understand that we have just these thousands and thousands of people, and it is very difficult for some of them even after release from captivity to get at least some documents that can confirm this, that is why it is actually so important, if we talk about what the state can do, this is the security service of ukraine, they try to investigate and collect information as much as possible, including from the occupied territories, so we advise everyone to submit their appeal, both to relatives, to those with whom someone is being held captive, and to those who appealed from captivity. contact the service of security, they work normally, they really interrogate, that is, it is not some terrible interrogation, i understand, people survived captivity, and it is very difficult for them to go back to some authorities and testify about something, but the security service of ukraine is usually the opposite in this respect helps, they have information on other people, they can check with other witnesses and so on and so on, it is the same as contacting the national police,

for example, from my experience, including work in the commission, i can say that, for example, kherson region after released... kherson and other parts, yes, our armed forces of ukraine, investigators are very active there, and they are really trying to establish who, where, in which torture chamber sat, and therefore, when you contact the national police, even , if it is difficult for you to find, as a person who was in captivity of confirmation, then other people have already been interviewed, they could see you, they can confirm it and so on, so there is indeed a certain percentage of people who apply to the commission, but cannot at all just nothing to provide, and then the commission asks to collect more information, to apply again. and in principle, the number of times you can apply is unlimited. it often happens that people just heard about it, just applied, wrote, wrote, for example, just an empty statement, just recognize me as a prisoner, yes, but no documents. no explanation was given, then in principle either public organizations or the ministry of integration contact, explain: please expand your application, submit something additional, people apply again and again and again, and more rarely

you can find other cases, which i think mr. ehtem mentioned, is that people sometimes try to take advantage of this situation, knowing that establishing the fact of deprivation of liberty also provides an opportunity to receive financial assistance, it is about payment. once a year uah 100,000. and that's why it sometimes happens that people really turn and write about the fact that they were supposedly in captivity, but in fact there are no confirmations, neither public organizations, nor law enforcement agencies, and man, no one was able to confirm it. i think that there are still such cases, from what i see even from the practice of the commission's work, they are minimal, but we understand that the longer the war lasts, the more such people may be. exactly why, when the commission says that at least some information about the confirmation of captivity is needed, it is precisely in order to... precisely establish whether a person was really in captivity, because after all, there may be cases when a person simply wants to take advantage of the situation, although she herself was not in captivity. mr. akhtem, i wanted to ask you as

a former political prisoner and as a representative profile committee, and what advice could you give to relatives of captured ukrainian civilians, what they should do, so that it would be easier to prove later. that their loved ones are in captivity, more, i think, the main thing is to use informational opportunities, i.e. not always with relatives, but relatives have the opportunity to document it by taking these pieces of paper in their hands and then disclosing them, but... when a person is caught, there is such a factor, the first, the first term, there is time, relatives generally try not to say anything,

yes, and probably it will pass that way, so no takes place, and it is necessary to give publicity, and then here and public organizations, first of all , they start working on this... information , and in my opinion, this is such a fast single tool all these 10 years, but what about what we say about the sbu or our other police or other institutions, after all , after some time they are included in this work and they are more... based on some facts, documents, but they appear much later, yes, or

not at all appear, that's why i still advise all relatives to contact our public offices associations, because it is more effective and the most important thing, and you can say everything that you cannot say at that moment, there is a human factor, but it must be taken into account. on june 28 , 10 ukrainian civilians were freed from russian captivity, among them two priests of the greek catholic church, art critic olena peh and deputy head of the medjlis of the crimean tatar people nariman dzhelal. now i suggest you look directly at the language, i am already in ukraine, i

was met by such nice guys, what keys did they give me, no cry, don't cry, it's over, it's over little one, we're together again, i didn't waste a day at home on...hope that it would ever end, although inside i was ready to endure all this unfair term that was assigned to me in the occupation court crimea the most important thing for us was to know that ukraine continues to fight for its own freedom, independence, and this hope, this resistance, inspired us not to give in to any rights either. these are such inspiring moments, president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyy, commenting on this

liberation, stated that... the vatican actually helped in the exchange of prisoners, and in view of this , i have a question for our guests, and first of all, mrs. oglya, for you, how actively are our western partners and international organizations involved in the liberation of our civilians well, as far as international organizations are concerned, it seems to me that the 22nd year was just such a peak of disappointment. the majority of organizations not only did not join at all , even fulfilling their mandate. many of them simply ran away then, and even took with them whatever equipment they could to help save people here, for example, there are armored cars, and there are armored vests, helmets and everything else, unfortunately, it was just a shock for us, especially when we tried to help some people there to get them out of kyiv region, and it was strange in general to see that knowing their mandate, they did not do it, so there is really a lot of distrust in international organizations, but still, for example,

they work on some cases... the red cross and on some civilians, for example, they manage to get at least some letter for places of detention in of the russian federation, but in relation to the direction, in relation to exchanges during the negotiation process, usually international organizations are not involved, because their mandate does not include political actions, but they are important in the context of documenting there, confirming that there is a problem, and so on, so anyway, we, for example, orient relatives in the same way, to appeal to international organizations so that they also enter in their registers, and in their reports and so on, because it is in... certain international documents that all other countries refer to, so it is more realistic, i understand, that political action, i.e. this negotiations, we see that, for example, participation in the vatican helped to return 10 civilians, well, as we were told, therefore it is really important to rejuvenate certain countries, but among these countries, especially partner countries, especially those that provide weapons to ukraine, it is clear that well, it is unlikely that russia will go to negotiations, so they can look for other

countries that just... for example, they do not have such direct partnership relations with ukraine, but they have good relations with the russian federation, so this way is also possible, and also happened, yes happened the peace summit, and you and i know that there was a separate closed meeting, in which the ombudsman of ukraine, dmytro lubinets, also participated, and he said that a number of countries have expressed that they offer their direct participation and their platforms for negotiations and... i hope that this is not the last release of civilians, where we were all happy to return, including nariman dzhelal, who was tied back in the 21st year, precisely because he took part in the crimean platform, it was launched then, and we believe that the countries of the crimean platform, more than 60 of them, can participate in the release of our civilians, therefore, in principle , the most realistic for us are these political negotiations with the russian federation, but

again, this does not exclude the fact that today... russia of ten fired, tomorrow she seized another 100. until the 22nd year, before the full-scale invasion of all crimean, yes, political prisoners, those who were imprisoned in crimea, only eight people were returned as part of exchanges, only eight, among them mr. akhtem cheygos, who was returned at that time with the participation of turkey, but only eight people, and now more than 200 of them will play, this is only for crimea, what we know from the political affairs of crimea. therefore, actually, unfortunately , while the occupied territories are still occupied, we have no guarantees that new hostages and new prisoners will not appear, but the process is underway and this is the first such exclusively civilian exchange, because before this, a civilian after the 22nd, if and returned, then only as part of the exchange of prisoners of war, but these were very isolated cases, i.e. this is literally one, two, three people, a few women were returned, but russia did not return people en masse, we only have those civilians who were then simply released after

capture, after they were let in, after ... arthur, and they made their way there independently already to the pin-controlled part of ukraine, but so that it was precisely within the framework of the exchange of some official negotiations with the russian federation, then in principle this is the first such exclusively civilian and exclusively civilian return without prisoners of war. mr. artem, i actually wanted to hear your opinion, because, how true said mrs. olga, you have returned to ukraine. with the participation of istanbul, and i want to ask you, as a people's deputy, how lively are the discussions with e-governments, at the inter-parliamentary level, with other countries, on the issue of the return of ukrainian civilians, can you tell us something about this? this is a difficult question