well, we are talking about a sovereign state here, and again, this is when ukraine did not exist, and now it exists, this is a very good example, as it seems to me, and here, of course, we can discuss this for a very long time throughout this history, because the implementation of all these plans is completely unclear, but again, i think that trump may have an illusion of reality, because trump may really believe that putin wants to ... settle for the territories that he controls, and that the whole problem is russian - there are many ukrainian wars, by the way which of our compatriots think so, and they are, frankly, idiots, along with trump, those who think that the reason for this war is that putin wants to get donbas and that he does not want us to join nato, and if these problems are solved, as putin proposed in 2022, then all this will end. but the truth

lies in something completely different, and this must be clearly understood. donbass or crimea, or any other part of ukrainian territory where russian troops are located, is not a target, a bridgehead. do not confuse the target with the bridgehead. there mobilization is being carried out so that ukrainians kill ukrainians so that fewer russians die, troops are stationed there so that the territory of russia suffers less. and you hear that they call this territory the new russia. new russia, someone is bombing it there, and old russia. no one is bombing, everything is fine with us, this is the second moment, the third moment, nato, there is no problem that ukraine will join nato and become a threat to russia, but there is a problem that if ukraine joins nato, it will it is more difficult to win because, of course, it will be necessary to go to a conflict with nato. and that's it that is why putin does not want ukraine to join nato. in these security guarantees for

the russian federation, important ones that were offered by the russian foreign ministry, on the eve of the major invasion, it was clear that russia wanted a guarantee that none of the former soviet republics that had not yet joined nato would join nato , and this is the essence of the problem, and now the question arises, why are they all a threat to russia? no, because... there is a plan for their integration into russia, if it joins, they join nato, this is the plan is failing, therefore there is no problem if we, in our entry, if we do not join nato, it will mean, as i have repeatedly said, only one thing, that the war will repeat itself, but the ukrainians are very fond of saying that they do not want to leave this war your children and your grandchildren and your grandchildren, and therefore it must be won if... even stop this

war and win it and even restore your territorial integrity, but get no security guarantees from the west, you can even have no doubt that you will leave your war , this russian-ukrainian, to your children and grandchildren, and that one of your grandchildren will surely die in this next war, and when you see the military cemetery where our heroes are already lying, just know that your grandchildren are there too, how old are they now ? seven, there too... there will be some lying, this is a political reality, there will be no other political reality, and you just have to live with this reality, and if ukraine joins nato, then these grandchildren of yours will be alive, well, it's very simple, or there will then be a conflict with russia from nato, it will already be a nuclear war, and then not only your grandchildren will be there or the children and grandchildren there, relatively speaking, of the french, germans, or whoever, those who will be hit by a nuclear bomb, will calmly lie on their backs, but you already know this, as they say, no one will be able to evade ,

this will be the kind of end of europe that spengler wrote about, it seems, at the beginning of the 20th century, and we will see it in the 21st, it is also an interesting, very experience, but it is unlikely to happen, because the problem is that if we say about the death of german or french or ukrainian grandchildren in russia's war with nato, this means that moscow, st. petersburg or yaroslavl grandchildren are also turning into, as our pseudo-colleague dima kiselyov likes to say, into radioactive... ash, and the russians, i assure you, do not want this, they are not suicidal, they wage all their wars with those who, in their opinion, cannot answer them. russia is a country that has always in its history, if you have learned this history in schools, always attacked, if it attacked specifically, only those who were weaker. unlike many other countries, russia has never attacked those it believed to be. stronger or equal

russia is a state that always starts wars with those who are weak enough, waits for the weakening of the enemy, then attacks the weak, and how... what and the only thing that has always been a problem for russia is that it could have bad analytics, but they attacked some state, relatively speaking, which they considered weak, japan, then everyone and someone else, and then it turned out that they did not know something, by the way, this happened in february 2022, yes, here , and then it turns out that this is not such a weak state, and this mykola the first already goes to himself and shooting, well, goodbye, so to speak, comrade romanov, here... this is the essence of russian politics, this is not a state, this is a criminal organization of hooligans who declared themselves a state and invented a name for themselves that they stole in the movement, that is, in in the city of moscow, then it was built, and then it was moved to the northern

swamps of st. petersburg, well, that's the whole wonderful story, as you understand, so that's all that can be said about the future, i don't know if i pleased anyone there or reassured, but you have to go to donat. in short, what we, with what we started our conversation with an hour and a half ago, we will, relatively speaking, continue with this. there are discounts, the only discounts are on entergermin, 15% cotton wool. plantain pam and savings there are discounts represent the only discounts on troxevs inn 15% in pharmacies plantain to you and savings there are discounts represent the only discounts on fkalkalor 10% in pharmacies plantain to you and savings there are discounts represent the only discounts on foam steel hell 15% in pharmacies plantain to you

to thrifty big air of vasyl zima, my name is vasyl zima, this is big air on espresso tv channels, two hours of air time, two hours of your time, my colleagues and i will talk about the most important thing, two hours to learn about the war, about the military, front, component, serhiy zgurets and how the world lives. yuriy fizar is already with me, and it's time to talk about what happened outside of ukraine. yuriy, dobryvechir. two hours to keep up with economic news. time to talk about money in wartime. oleksandr morcha in kapor with me, and sports news. i invite you to talk. as well as distinguished guests of the studio, mustafa dzhemilov, leader crimean tatar people,

contact us, mr. mustafa, greetings, good day, events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for intelligent and caring people, espresso in the evening. there is a war going on, and not only for territories, it is also a war for minds. we are engaged in propaganda. russia is throwing millions of petrodollars into turning ukrainians into little russians. ukraine will become russia. let's counter the information attacks of the russians in the chronicles of information war project with olga len. tuesday, thursday at 17:15 repeat. tuesday, friday at 10:00 p.m. congratulations, that's it beraber program. together, a joint project of the crimean tatar tv channel atr and the espresso tv channel. i'm andrii

yanitskyi and gulsum khalilov in the studio. congratulations to silam alaykum, hurly kunler. we are very pleased to welcome you to this studio today. we are, as always , traditional. we will talk about crimea, about deoccupation, about and about the reintegration of the temporarily occupied crimea peninsula, and of course, we will sum up, and this week we will talk about everything that happened, and in the first block, it is military, military expert vladyslav seliznyov, military expert and spokesman of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine in 14-17 years, mr. vladyslav, congratulations, congratulations to the villages, congratulations to you, glad to see and glory to ukraine, hero. well, mr. vladyslav, recently the commander of the ukrainian navy said that russia is losing its naval naval center in crimea. what does it mean, how much, well, when we say loses, how serious is it

at this stage? here it is said that the russian occupiers are the slowest, but nevertheless lose their military presence on the territory of the currently occupied crimean peninsula, including in the first and the first queue through the destruction by the ukrainian defense forces of their military facilities in crimea and sevastopol, because when the enemy is forced to hide their warships, carriers of sea- based missiles of the type. the caliber is closer to novorossiysk, it is definitely not a pro-military presence in crimea. when the enemy loses the resources and capabilities of its anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense system, it weakens the combat capabilities of the russian occupiers. when enemy bases, warehouses and arsenals with ammunition, including shaheds, which the enemy kisses the territory of our country, this is precisely the loss of key elements that ensure the combat power of the russian army of occupation. and i think that this activity is not accidental. the ukrainian army has repeatedly stated that the 24th year

will be the year of special attention on the territory of the temporarily occupied crimean peninsula, because the enemy must feel that crimea is not his land, it is ukrainian land, and it, this land will be under with the feet of the russian occupiers, until the foot of the last russian occupier leaves territory of crimea. and here i think that they should hurry, because it is not for nothing that our two famous generals, general malyuk and general bohdanov, once declared that the construction of the kershchen bridge is superfluous, and therefore must be destroyed, so while there is still an opportunity to cover on the heels of the crimea, using precisely this infrastructural structure, it is worth using this opportunity, because on the one hand, i understand the russians, they have several options for escaping from the crimea, and on the other hand , i understand that all these options are vulnerable, it is not only about the kerch bridge, it is said and about the kerch ferry crossing, which we have repeatedly targeted... destroying both the partisan infrastructure and the ferries themselves,

we are also talking about the aviation component of the military transport aircraft of the enemy aircraft, which can also be explosive, vulnerable, only now will we receive the first batch of fighters f-16, which will be able to operate not only over the territory of the occupied peninsula, but also the waters of the black sea and the partnativiazov sea. of course, we are talking about large landing ships, which the enemy used until recently. as an express, that is killings that transported cargo of military importance to the bay and the water area of ​​sevastopol, now they are trying not to implement such things, because recently the russian air defense forces have become too vulnerable due to the active activity of our naval kamikaze attack drones, of course, there is also a land route, a route that runs along the northern coast of the sea of ​​azov, but there are also hostilities raging nearby, and who knows today... trucks with military

cargo may move in space, and what will happen tomorrow is still unknown, for taking into account the fact that our fkulanka, our partisans are quite active in the south of zaporozhye, as well as in the southwestern part of donetsk region. mr. vladyslav, is it true that almost all the ships and boats of the black sea fleet of the russian federation have already fled to novorossiysk, because recently we saw the operation of the armed forces of ukraine. on novorossiysk ports, so what is happening now? in fact, there is not a single caliber-based ship based in nasyar in the waters and bays on the territory of the temporarily occupied crimean peninsula. is several large amphibious ships and friendly ships located in sevastopol, but they are definitely not able to influence the increasing power of the russian black sea fleet to koriin, and in principle the process is still continuing. evacuation of the same ships, they are now leaving the bay of sevastopol accompanied by high-speed boats and

ships in order to protect large ships from the influence of ukrainian naval anti-tank missiles, and the fact that our magura the fifth and siyabebi have recently been able to give distance more than 800 km, to accurately destroy the enemy's port infrastructure directly in the area of ​​novorossiysk, novorossiysk, this indicates that we have acquired the appropriate capabilities and... the industrial complex, there are certain developments in our special services, and all these developments are precisely aimed at weakening the combat capabilities of the russian occupiers operating on the territory of the temporarily occupied crimea, as well as those forces and means operating on the territory of the south of zaporizhzhia region, the south. mr. vladyslav, i wanted to remind our viewers that if you watch this news release from crimea on youtube. then please subscribe, set the bell, comment, maybe ask questions to the expert and presenters, we

will definitely come to the comments after the broadcast and talk with you, answer your questions, and i also wanted to remind you that if you see on the screen under qr code during our conversation, you can support the liberation of crimea with a hryvnia, support the unit of the 48th ombsh named after noman chilybychhan, and thus contribute. you for the liberation of crimea, mr. vladyslav, returning to the issue of sea ports, here the attack on novorossiysk is just like... some random incident, or is it now the strategy of our armed forces of ukraine that we will liberate the entire black and azov seas from the black sea fleet of russia, not only the crimean peninsula. everything is accidental and not accidental. of course, in order for our attack to be as effective as possible, there are certain

preparatory processes, reconnaissance and further development of the area, preparation of appropriate conditions and circumstances for its implementation. missions, because in order to accurately aim at enemy infrastructure facilities, we need to clear the airspace from the influence of enemy anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense systems. please note that separate air defense and anti-missile elements are exploding systematically and metallically on the territory of the temporarily occupied crimea. vorok constantly pulls additional elements from the mainland of the russian federation through the kerch strait. recently, general budanov, the head of our country's military intelligence, reported that in the cream of... individual elements of the s500 complex, this is actually a research exhibit that the russians are now trying to put on combat rotation, nevertheless, even the most modern developments in the air defense system, the enemy dragged the crimea to protect the sky on the territory of the temporarily occupied peninsula, does it help him or not, because even bpo systems are not always able

to protect themselves. what's more, this activity of the ukrainian army takes place within the framework. preparatory measures in order to further be able to use not only the missile and drone component for the destruction of enemy objects in crimea and the territory of the krasnodar territory, but also for the involvement of our aviation component, because in the end the same miracle will happen, long-awaited by us, we will receive the first batch of fighter-16 and in order for them to carry out combat missions in a safe space to destroy the enemy's military infrastructure and sevastopol, we need... in first of all , weaken the very capabilities of the air defense and anti-missile defense fence as much as possible. our hermas are working on this, our rocket operators, our saboteurs, our special forces are working on this, and this activity seems to be a sign, because in order to overcome the airspace of the territory of crimea, in order for our drones to accurately and guaranteed sound the objects of the port infrastructure

of new russia, before that, it was necessary to work well over crimea and, accordingly, in crimea, destroying the elements. in the east of the temporarily occupied crimean peninsula, that is , a lot of work has been done, and a lot of such work is worth and will have to be done, because the enemy continues to accumulate resources, but in this confrontation the enemy is still forced to literally plug the holes in its air defense system, well, the ukrainian the army, system and metallurgical , is making all the holes in the russian army in order to have conditions for further measures regarding the occupation of crimea. of course, i have no illusions here, it cannot happen tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow, there are still too many homework tasks, we need to do the ukrainian army and create the necessary prerequisites for the de-occupation of kherson oblast and pivzhna zaporizhia oblast, to destroy as much as possible the combat capabilities of the russian occupiers, but that that

is widely known, the way to pass it must be done every day. step by step to achieve their goal, namely the implementation of this plan, and the ukrainian defense forces focused their attention on this area of ​​the flank. well, that is, concluding the topic of the black sea fleet of the russian federation, we can quite say that the ports of novorossiysk, and even the potential ports of abkhazia and other regions where russian ships escape, are a legitimate goal of the armed forces of ukraine. yes, of course, any warship in the black sea is a legitimate target for ukrainian drones . pay attention to how dry it is and the russian occupiers are behaving insidiously, they have now begun to repaint the nets on their warships in the waters of the sea of ​​azov. with what duty? well, first of all, they are sure that in this way they will be

protected from our kamikaze attack sea drones, because in order for our drones to be able to enter the sea of ​​azov. they have to overcome the same barricades that cover the kerch bridge construction from the south, so far this is an impossible mission for us, and secondly, the movement traffic is quite high of civilian ships in the waters of the sea of ​​azov and purely dense, enemy warships are literally hiding behind the sides of civilian ships, barges, and support vessels, and this actually creates serious problems, because... in order to determine priority goals , a lot of effort must be made, and precisely in this way the enemy tries to literally hide his warships. civilian ships and ships, this is a challenge, but again, a challenge is not a reason to say, it is impossible, it is an opportunity to look for options for the application of our

shock weapons in order to work brilliantly, accurately and as effectively as possible, will this happen, i am sure that it will, because the enemy must understand that we did not start this war, but we will end this war with our victory, the war began in crimea , and in crimea , it is for... the solution should be completed, well, in addition to the black sea fleet of the russian federation , russia has other fleets, can we somehow strike or perhaps do some sabotage on russian ships that are, i don’t know, in the northern seas and somewhere on the other side of russia, far away in 2005, the armed forces of ukraine made a decision to create a special forces command. operations, then there were a lot of surprises, why, why does ukraine have such a structure, but the military and political leadership at that time, making such a decision, acted

as rationally as possible, in the confrontation of a small ukrainian army against a large russian army, we do not have many chances to win, but for the use of asymmetric actions, we have, we had a lot of opportunities, these are the corresponding talents and... capabilities of ukrainian servicemen, this is also the experience that we received from our western partners in particular, this is also the acquisition of appropriate equipment, equipment and weapons for the implementation of certain tasks, well, for example, a well-known case, with the destruction, partial destruction of a combat ship of the baltic fleet, is connected with the fact that prior to that, our special forces had carried out intelligence activities in order to convince one of the servicemen, members of the crew of a small rocket ship, it seems to be his name, who had dispaid half a year from st. petersburg. for a certain

period of time, this active russian serviceman gave us information that was extremely sensitive for the russian army, and when the question arose about his exposure, an operation was carried out to evacuate him, that military serviceman, and before that he was literally in pain, destroying divisions and equipment . this modern russian warship, i will introduce, we are always looking for ways and opportunities in order to use a small effort to cause as much damage as possible to the russian to the occupiers, the enemy must feel that the war he started against sovereign ukraine on february 20, 2014, will not take place somewhere far away, the war went directly to the homes of russians, and they must feel all these people, all this power, ukrainian . because it cannot be otherwise, otherwise we will not win in this confrontation, which means that systematic and methodical work on the organization of the enemy's military potential, not only in the occupied territories

of the country, but also directly in the territory of the russian federation, is a significant factor, which i consider our victory. well, actually, i wanted to add to your information, really my question was dictated by the recent press conference of the russian once, and now on... more likely already on the ukrainian boss of a fighter with the call sign goga, goga, or goga, now he is a recruit of the legion of freedom of russia , it was he who set fire to the electronics on the serpukhav ship on april 7, when it was standing in the city of baltiysk in the kaliningrad region, and gur was told that the fire completely destroyed communication and automation, which makes the repair of the ship quite long, which more such gogs... will be in russia, in russian fleets and in general in the russian army, the better, the sooner russia will be free, and ukraine will be free. mr.

vladyslav, if we talk about the recent events of this week in crimea, we once again learned that russia will be hostile to ukraine, even after the war, from the speech of yevhen khlobestov, professor of the kyiv-mohyla academy. and he means that even after the liberation of crimea, we cannot avoid danger and we will have to rebuild crimea into such a ukrainian fortress, or you do you agree with this opinion? i think that the determining factor that will provide a security perimeter on the territory of our country with the border of 1991 is resources, it is a powerful, self-sufficient ukrainian army, it is a developed and multi-level complex. defense industrial productions, these are collective security agreements, in principle i understand that russia will not go anywhere, even after our victory, but in order

for the price of any... aggression on the part of moscow in relation to our country to be unacceptable and very painful, we need resources, resources that will absolutely clearly demonstrate that, we are ready to repel any hostile aggression and we are ready in response to use all our resources, and this response will be so painful, so large-scale in terms of crisis-level consequences that any. for the successors of vladimir putin, who will harbor some alarmist gasps and plans, even thoughts and guesses did not arise that he would be able to win in a new confrontation with ukraine. well, i have such, you know, perhaps a global question, and how to make russia no longer able to show aggression not only against ukraine,

but against other states. with which it now has occupation relations, and there is also georgia and moldova and so on, so can we talk about the future demilitarization and possibly the future denuclearization of the russian federation? yes, madam, it is absolutely appropriate to remark, of course, that the plans are very ambitious, but the key element of this plan is resources, and accordingly, if ukraine, of course, with the unconditional support of our western partners will succeed from... key elements of the enemy's military potential, i think that the position of conditional vladimir putin, in general, the highest military and political leadership of the russian federation will transform from the current one, which literally demands the surrender of ukraine, and de facto the entire collective event, to a more lenient one and more constructive. the systematic and methodical destruction of the enemy's military means is the basis and motivation for our victory and the stabilization

of the security space not only on our territory. which means creating the conditions for a foreseen and stable peace in europe. thank you very much, mr. vladyslav, the most important thing is that you took the time to join our broadcast, see you soon. or on other broadcasts of the atp tv channel and the espresso tv channel. vladyslav seliznyov, military expert, spokesman of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine in 2017, 2014-2017 was on our air. now we go on a short break and come back, don't switch. there are discounts representing the only discounts on norwend

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