regarding the f-16, i was very happy to see that president zelenskyi came out and said that basically the f-16 will be another tool in the toolbox, they will not change the fight by themselves, wars are fought by people, not equipment, it will be ukrainian the pilots who will fly them, the ukrainian maintenance specialists who will maintain them, but how they will be integrated with all the other tools that ukraine already has, other tools that are provided to them by allies and partners from around the world, how they will all be about united in a joint and integrated way of fighting to defeat russia is what will matter. the ukrainian people will eventually see the f-16s arrive. hopefully very soon and they will start contributing to the fight, but again, they won't change the fight by themselves. i think that in the long term they will help to become another path to better integration with nato. and that.

yes, i think you will see the additional capabilities that they will provide. initially, i think they will be used in the western part of the country to help with air defense. and you know air defense is a very big problem right now. with all kinds of attacks from russia , cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, hypersonic missiles, cruise bombs, drones.

f-16i will become another key player in the fight against these threats. i think that eventually, when you get more f-16s, and the ukrainian air force feels more comfortable operating and maintaining them, and when the joint force planning and command control team has an understanding, what the f-16s are capable of, then i think we'll see them move further east and engage in strikes, etc. now there is a call to give ukraine... more and more air defense, and we have to do it, i think that at the nato summit you will see even more commitments from the leaders of nato countries to give you what you need for self-defense, but defense itself can't win, you can lose if you don't have it, but you can't win, you have to attack, and for that you need air advantage, and some of the things that will allow ukraine to get it, in addition to the f-16, this is a ... change in us policy that we

see gradually taking place. it has to happen. ukraine should be able to beat russia in russia itself. everything that russia uses on the territory of russia must be a legitimate target for ukrainians. and we 're seeing some changes, and that's going to be a game changer. it's an asymmetric advantage they get, but for that you have to get air superiority, which the f-16 will do exponentially. more effective, like other fighters. sir general, you commanded the combined air forces of nato. so let's talk about the upcoming alliance summit. ukraine was directly informed that there will be no official invitation to join the alliance. and then what will be the best possible outcome of the meeting for ukraine? i think so until there is an official invitation. but i believe that

nato members will definitely find an opportunity to pave the way forward for ukraine to membership. and i think that you will also see at the summit a renewed commitment to the victory of ukraine. not just survival, i'm talking about victory so, these commitments are related to politics, finances, and equipment, all three directions. i think you're going to see promises to provide a lot more air defense systems, big financial and technical commitments in the near term and ... in the long term. also, i think that you will see both in terms of short-term commitments, both in the saga, and in the long-term perspective, a plan of how we will build the ukrainian army in the next 5-10 years to have a path to nato. and the third point, which was told to me by people who know the essence affairs, responsibility. what i mean is the supervision of the obligations of the countries. and the secretary general of nato himself will call.

countries, if the promises are not fulfilled and says: you promised, fulfill it. so, all three conclusions and the summit will be very loud and clear messages to mr. putin. "you will not last longer than us, nato is here to support ukraine for many years, and in the future there is a path for ukraine to nato. do you think that now the allies are doing enough for ukraine to win. i think that more can always be done. it's sad to see this war of attrition going on, if it continues to be a war of attrition, the bigger side will always win." in a war of attrition, history shows us that, but really, the bigger side is ukraine plus everyone who supports it. so if the partisans can do more and change the dynamics of the battle, get out of the war of attrition, as i said, by gaining air superiority for ukraine, and then allow them to use that

to take back their territory, then i think you will see the way to the victory of ukraine. search full text and video. an interview with retired us air force general charles corcuron and other exclusive materials on the voice of america website in ukrainian and on our social networks. the 75th anniversary nato summit will start on tuesday in washington. the leaders of all the countries of the alliance are taking part, and they will be hosted by us president joe biden. the president will also arrive in the american capital to participate in the events. volodymyr zelenskyi of ukraine. hungarian prime minister viktor orban has now confirmed his participation in the summit, which he just did his visit to china. first kyiv, and then moscow and beijing, he called the stops of his, i quote: peace mission. our european correspondent, bohdan tsyupin, is following

the events. hello, bohdan. hungary has now started its six-month eu presidency. and can we say that viktor orban's visits to the country, russia, and now china, are connected with this. in fact, people in brussels were obviously surprised when, without any consultation, orbán first went to kyiv almost the day after the start of the eu presidency, and then they were probably shocked when he appeared in moscow, and from brussels it was very clearly emphasized that he did not present. in the european union, which is in no way related to hungary's presidency, and today, by the way, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi, while on a visit to warsaw, emphasized that what

orbán is doing actually threatens to split europe's position . i would like it not just for someone to talk about peace, but for concrete steps to be taken, what peace is for ukraine, these are appropriate steps, and i really want no one here to split unity in the world, unity in europe and did not offer his other alternative ways to end the war, alternative...formulas bohdan, well , we have heard kyiv's position, but how are these, as he calls them, viktor orban's peacekeeping missions viewed in the west? i have already said about the shock in brussels, the high representative of the european union

jose borel made a special statement, emphasizing that orban does not represent the european union, there were corresponding statements from other positions. in europe, and, as the ukrainian president also stated, mr. orban did not inform him when he was in kyiv that plans to go to moscow, and later orbán was proud in an interview that he hid his own, own plans. the host of today's meeting in warsaw, polish prime minister donald tusk, was... less diplomatic, if you can say so, and stated that history knows such leaders, such figures, who called their missions peaceful and went to negotiate the surrender of others countries, he said that the names of those figures are written down in history with shame.

bohdan, well, i propose to talk about another very important topic for europe, this the results of the elections in france, the results you... have already announced, they are already known, tell me what are the consequences, what does the actual choice of the french show? the choice of the french? shows that they did not want to give power to the extreme right party of marine le pen, the figure most associated with the so-called national unity, and for europeans, for france's neighbors, this is also of great importance, expect that paris, for sure will see now very serious disturbances, negotiations in connection with the fact that... one of political forces do not have a majority in the french parliament, but many in europe

heaved a sigh of relief, and in particular , the leader of germany, chancellor olaf scholz, spoke about this today. i, like the entire german government, am relieved, it would have been a serious challenge if the french president had to enter into a coalition with a right- wing populist party, now this has been avoided and... now we hope that the president, as well as the elected deputies, will succeed constructively to form a government. i, for my part, am also satisfied that this is the case importance of franco-german friendship, on a personal level i can say that i am also happy because of the good personal relationship i have with the french president. germany, like no other country, is very interested in the success of the european union, it is in our national interests as a country in the center of europe, the largest country, the country with the largest population, the country with the most powerful economy. that is why we are always interested in the organization of cooperation between the 27 member countries

and in the development of the future union, its ability to approve decisions, as well as to accept new members, this is possible only together with france. bohdan, besides the fact that france is an important and large country for the european union, it is also an important and large partner of ukraine in its defense. tell me, please, how these elections could potentially affect the issue of aid to ukraine? they will certainly be affected, because, well, at least now france will not have a firm, so to speak, government for some time. in general, in france, questions of defense and external security, the president answers. emmanuel macron remains in office until 2027, but his coalition or the coalition of the party that supported. it

no longer exists in the parliament, which formed the government and implemented, in particular, its decisions, instead, the parties called the extreme left received the most votes, and here actually such a problem arises that in france, as well as in some other european countries, the extreme the left and the extreme right, when the question comes to russia, to relations with moscow... they often converge, that is , the french communists or some other french extreme left have a history, so to speak friendly attachments to moscow, and now, despite the fact that their leaders do not say that they are against helping ukraine, but they insist that perhaps ukraine should not be given too powerful weapons or, let's say extreme... their right will affect the fact that sanctions may hinder them, their countries,

their economy, etc., that is, they probably won't be able to openly oppose aid to ukraine, because it is really about unjust aggression and about helping the victim of aggression, but it will probably be more difficult for the french president . of course, thank you, bohdan, it was european correspondent. voice of america bohdan syupin. in california, they said goodbye to american veteran jericho sky magalan. the former military police officer traveled to ukraine a few days after the start of the full-scale russian invasion. in september 2023, jericho's relatives received the news that he died near bakhmut. it took nine months to bring the american's body home, says khrystyna

shevchenko. a cortege with the body of a former us military police officer leaves from the airport in los angeles to ohio. jericho sky magalonov. the coffin is accompanied by veterans of the american army on motorcycles. representatives of the ukrainian community stand along the road. they came to pay their last respects to the american volunteer. who died near bakhmut in donetsk region. it must have been the hardest day since we found out jerry's death. died, we were touched, we had no idea that the community would respond in such a way. the next day, jericho is said goodbye to his family and friends in his hometown of ohio, near los angeles. near the house covered with ukrainian and jericho's mother, sister, brother, girlfriend and sons with american flags. he

never got to see the younger one. he felt. that has to go there, have you tried turning it down? yes, i was pregnant. for the first time, the californian went to ukraine as a volunteer, after the full-scale invasion of russia in march 2022. i was actually more interested in politics than he was. he always laughed at me when i got dragged into the news because he never watched it, ever. but when russia again invaded ukraine with a new wave... before the aggression, he was already there in a week on a one-way flight to poland. he said to me: mom, it's like watching bullies bully a child on the playground, but everyone stands and watches and no one intervenes, no one comes to help. jericho's relatives say that at first they tried to dissuade the boy from going to a foreign country, but he had already made up his mind,

so in the end the family also supported him. he... wrote down his thoughts and observations in diaries. all of them are now with his mother , alison. this is what he wrote immediately upon arrival 7 march 2022. this is an atrocity, a real genocide and nothing else. no other country comes to the rescue. last week i decided to come and fight side by side with the ukrainian people to protect their lives and sovereignty. an experienced military man went to ukraine to save his life from shelling. he transported civilians and animals, provided medical aid to the wounded. he was a man who stood between good and evil, and thanks to men and women like him, we can all know freedom. taka says that during jericho's first rotation, she had a dream, that he died in bakhmut, and she asked

her beloved to return home. that was the end of his first trip to ukraine. at 10 months. in america, takka has already seen how jericho has changed. he returned as a person who was deeply in love with ukraine. he left a part of himself there. and i felt that he felt guilty about the safety and wealth and beauty of the life we ​​had. every time he spoke on the phone with someone from ukraine, you could see how he lit up, how his face lit up. and jericho decided to return to ukraine, was supposed to conduct a briefing for the ukrainian military and fly back to the usa in 10 days. but on september 5, the 28-year-old died near bakhmut. jericho's mother was immediately attacked by russian trolls on social networks, writing that they were brutally torturing him. no one prepared me that this could happen. i

didn't know whether to believe them or not? a part of you always asks, is it true? i was told to s... block them, but after eight months of these messages i have a thought, could it be true? some relief was brought by the news that her son's body was found, 9 months after the death of jericho, they were able to take the body from the battlefield. the operation was carried out by the ukrainian military together with volunteers from the weatherman foundation. one of them - david bramlet, who knew jericho personally, accompanied the bodies of his brother from ukraine to the city of ohai. russian positions are located almost directly near the place where jericho died. so it wasn't the easiest way to capture them. you know, these positions had to be destroyed before the evacuation could be carried out. now alison is certain that death her son should not be in vain. earlier, she and other women who lost children in ukraine

came to washington, called on congressmen to unblock money for aid to kyiv. now she says: she needs time to grieve, but she will support ukraine and tell the americans about the crimes of the russians. america is still very naive about what is going on. oh well, one of the many bubbles in america. i would say that people don't want to know. i lost several friends because of ukraine, because i went to washington to support ukraine. but for everyone present here, the freedom of ukrainians is a holy cause, for which jerich died. jericho died not only defending ukraine, he died defending democracy and freedom, you know, this is not a local problem of ukraine, it is a problem of america, it is a problem. russia is a problem. i feel his presence, i feel the nobility of his sacrifice and how it is reflected in the universe, how the world becomes

a safer and better place because he served his truth in ukraine, and we are very proud of him. so just keep on being present in our lives, jericho. we love you and are proud of you. message and do everything you can from that side to help ukraine win this war. thank you! khrystyna shevchenko, viktoriya ivasievich, dmytro melnyk, ohai, los angeles, california, for voa . download the voice of america mobile application. the application allows. automatically bypass blocking thanks to the built-in vpn service, read news, watch informative programs and videos, as well as listen to ukrainian voice service podcasts

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congratulations, it's a new week on the espresso tv channel, our monday meetings with you, andriy smoliy and khrystyna yatskiv, the new week really begins very hard, monday begins very hard, we all saw what happened this night, this morning, this day, when the next once the russian terrorists inflicted a massive... attack on the whole country, so we understand that this new week and this new monday are very difficult for the whole country, so we support the families, victims, the dead we understand that today it is very difficult to talk about some things, about some events, but we will try for that.

to move on and for the sake of ukrainian victory. in the light of today and all the events of today, i would like to ask you very much to continue, join the meetings that we announce on the espressa tv channel, the meetings that, i don't know, are held by your acquaintances, anyone you trust, convert , please, your own anger, misunderstanding in general, how can this be on this one the planet, the world of god. please give everything to the defense forces, and i think that all this should only consolidate the ukrainian society, today's attack was especially cynical, in my opinion, today we will understand why the russian fables that it was a ukrainian sams is there some other ukrainian missile, why won't it work, ukraine has already convened a council without the un, all this is connected with attacks on completely civilian

infrastructure, on... the largest children's hospital in our country, where lives are saved, the baby, by the way, according to information, a baby was retrieved from the rubble of okhmadita, and we really hope that the child will be able to survive. we understand that today we are talking not only about okhmadit, today we are also talking about energy, today we are talking about entire entrances of residential buildings, which were also destroyed. today we are talking about enterprises that regularly under attack and kryvyi rih 11 dead - these are also incredible losses. the long-suffering donetsk region suffers regularly, and today was no exception. all this will be in focus our attention, and we will talk about all this, in particular with our guests, and tomorrow, and tomorrow will be the 75th nato summit in washington, where it is unlikely that ukraine should expect any crazy moves towards its membership or

any fundamental ones. manifest, but unequivocally, unequivocally, this event will have its effect on tomorrow's summit. well, in any case, we understand that the nato summit is important, even despite the fact that ukraine is unlikely to be invited to the north atlantic alliance this time either. but nevertheless, and today our poll is about this summit itself. you can vote on whether it's worth the wait. sensationalism in favor of ukraine at the nato summit in washington. take the survey, if you think yes, please dial 0800-211-381, if you think no, dial 0800, 211 382, ​​all calls are absolutely free. well, we will start, of course, with military topics, we will start with the terrible shelling that took place today, and we will talk with

the first. this is ihor romanenko, the founder of the charity fund we will close the sky of ukraine, deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine in 2006-2010, lieutenant general, mr. igor, igor romanenko, mr. igor, good evening to you, if, unfortunately, you can call him that, unfortunately, you cannot, but i i welcome you , tv viewers too, mr. igor, i have a question for you, in your opinion, did today's multi-pronged missile-terrorist attack by the russian federation on ukraine differ from, perhaps, many previous ones. we understand that the genocidal practice of the terrorist country remains constant, nevertheless, today, i will allow myself to assume, it was a special cynicism, it was at...