our western partners in supporting us and god forbid the loss of ukraine, it will be a green light, a green light signal for china to seize taiwan. and that is precisely why hindus would do better to think that there are far-reaching interests of india and those countries that support it, the democratic camp. and there are short-term interests, like oil, like some kind of economic cooperation with the russian federation, and of course, it would be better if ... they consider that and choose a side that is ideological, values, supports india, and not is simply trying to use it against ukraine and the west, the west as a whole. mr. oleksandr, what kind of light should nato show ukraine at this summit, because we understand that this summit is important, but ukraine will not be invited. and now... various options

for cooperation are being discussed, various options for supporting our country are being discussed. we understand that this may not be what we expected from nato. we know that president zelensky is scheduled to meet with biden. so, if this whole complex of issues combine into one: what do we expect from nato at the summit and whether these signals will be positive, whether they will be... in the end more positive than negative. well, our desire and the desire of our closest neighbors, who feel threatened by the russian federation, the baltic states, poland, romania, the united kingdom, they would like to see the beginning of the process of ukraine joining nato, with an open date. it is clear here that we cannot become nato members tomorrow or a year from now. for this, two actual conditions must be met: the first is our readiness, and the second and even more. what is important is the political

will in the ranks of nato itself. unfortunately, we do not receive this signal. instead of the open door, which we have been standing in front of for some time, we are offered to build a bridge to nato. i honestly don't know what that means. we will look and read the documents after they are made public. what we are being offered is concrete help, and in fact a transfer of leadership from the united states to over. their structures, and the ramstein process, and other processes that were aimed at strengthening ukrainian defense capabilities now and strengthening our capabilities in the future to deter russian aggression, that is, this is not something so new, it is actually the streamlining of the format that exists under the nato umbrella, with such, you know, a safeguard against the possible arrival of trump, who can stop support for ukraine in... and

so i wouldn't say it's too positive. we will probably hear concrete, specific proposals, specific commitments from our partners to strengthen our air defense and other capabilities. here, but it is clear that this is not what we were waiting for. we need a political signal, and not only for ukraine. he and russia need this signal that russia has no veto power over nato decisions, and secondly, that no matter what they do, ukraine will be a nato member. and then one of the reasons for this war is removed, at least as it was perceived in washington, i'm sorry, in moscow, they say that it was nato and the expansion of nato that provoked this war, if ukraine inevitably follows this path, then it turns out, that putin has no way to achieve this goal, and part of this war is losing its meaning. and mr. oleksandr, today the ukrainian president had the opportunity to sign. judging by everything, a certain

security, perhaps a framework agreement with donald tusk, the polish prime minister, all this is actually happening on the way of our leader to washington, in addition, there is supposedly an understanding that it is necessary to create a ukrainian legion from those people who are now are on the territory of the european union, as you generally see our cooperation with poland, in the context of the new signed agreements, is it important and is it necessary... at all to place any hopes on them? it's a great deal, and in substance, in terms of structure, of course it will repeat, all the ones we 've done with other countries, i'd put it second only to the deal with the united kingdom, but the most important thing is not even what's written on paper , because you know, very often it happened, there were good words and intentions, but there was no political will to implement them, in the case of both britain and poland, such will... there is, because these

countries, the elites of these countries, clearly realized the threats from side of the russian federation, as ukraine, as well as the european continent, that is why this agreement is really historic, very good, and possible. not only to welcome that it is so well written, but in terms of what is planned to be done, these agreements are an important tool for strengthening our defense capabilities, strengthening cooperation in the defense-industrial complex, so that we are a single part of the european space, and of course, ukraine, as long as it is not a member of nato, could defend itself and then be a part, a worthy part of nato. a very important point is that, let's say, we stopped to hear mr. oleksandr, and i would like to understand that there may be problems from our side, or is it possible, mr. oleksandr, and we hear, we hear,

we hear, we hear, yes, a very important point is that these agreements are not substitutes for nato, and in fact in more... signed agreements it is written that they help ukraine to get closer to nato standards, and in the future to become nato members. it is clear that poland, probably like no other state, would like this, since we are a country that is on the way of the russian federation to the west, and it feels his vulnerability, well, of course, he has a bad memory of what happened, that is , the partitions of poland and... the occupation and genocides committed by the russian federation, more precisely, the soviet union in relation to the poles, so these are agreements, they are instrumental , they are very important, i hope that we will use the potential, and for this we need to create certain institutional mechanisms in

ukraine so that we understand who is responsible for the fulfillment of these agreements and the implementation of these agreements, because they are multi-planned, there are also from political, economic to the fight against corruption. european integration is actually here, but there are specific military or issues related to the defense-industrial complex, and all this is quite difficult to hand over to one ministry or one official in order for him to use these agreements, well, in fact, it is necessary to create such mechanism, mr. oleksandr, thank you so much for your thoughts, your analysis, oleksandr khara, diplomat, expert of the center for defense strategies on foreign affairs. ugh. and yes, i have to, i have to give information that is very important, on at the beginning of our ether, information appeared in many places that ohmadita was taken out from under the rubble and immediately hospitalized, but fortunately, this information is not confirmed.

we thank the ministry of internal affairs and their communications for helping her get to the truth. fortunately, we don't have any. the story with the wounded baby, but, but, let's remind you that yesterday, near the village of tsirkuny, which is the kharkiv region, a civilian car with passengers was blown up by a russian mine, and this evening, information appeared about the fact that a two-month-old baby died as a result of hitting a mine, in fact the body was thrown 15 m, and this is not the only victim of this tragedy, of many other tragedies. across our country, we remind you of our survey, whether it is worth waiting for sensationalism in favor of ukraine at the nato summit in washington, you can choose two options, either yes or no, take your smartphones or phones and

dial 0800 211 381, if you think yes, if you think no, please dial 0800 211 382 all. your calls are absolutely free, and one more important thing an event, yes, not only yesterday and not only this month, it is probably an event, relatively speaking, even of a planetary scale, these are the elections in france, these are the elections in france, and we have andrii shkil, politician, journalist, people's deputy of the fourth, fifth and sixth convocations, who currently lives. france understands these issues, right? so. mr. andriy, are you with us? we are right here. everything is fine. mr. andriy, good evening to you. well, unfortunately, it is not good in ukraine, but as it is. well, let's start, for sure

from the results, how revolutionary, resonant, i don't know, expected or unexpected, they, in particular, became for you as well. can you say a lot? emmanuel macron's hodvka still succeeded and marine le pen is actually losing this battle. well, look, i can comment on it, in general , it's a lot. it is possible to comment on such kind words spoken by the prime minister in poland that there is disappointment in moscow, enthusiasm in paris, relief in kyiv, because really after these elections and after this very clever combination made by macron in order to knock down the popularity of the right in france at the very height, they really had a very good environment. even in order to grow, because a survey that was conducted not immediately after the european, well

, elections to the european parliament, will testify that 60-8% of french people do not feel at home, that is, they consider the country of france as one that does not provide security, economic, social and even without ordinary security, because the war is knocking on the french door, in europe there is no war and, accordingly, a sense of shoulder. because it was not in their opinion a normal law on foreigners was adopted, and accordingly this entails such a whole series of problems that had to be solved in this way, to announce early elections, taking a risk, of course the risk was great, different things could happen, this so-called two-round system of france could also not to give such a result, if the so -called front was not formed, that is, the so-called republican front. and it entered, and this is very important, the land of libya, which were placed at a crossroads, or they enter and

support the position that the incumbent offers them the president, or they already merge in one dance with the extreme left, and that's why this combination actually worked, and if everyone was sufficiently upset and shocked in most cases by the first round, then they were pleasantly calmed by the second round, when the deprivation mechanism worked. the coming to power in the region of far-right and generally extreme structures, radical structures that rush to power with the help of democratic institutions, that is, the german lesson was learned here, when hitler came to power in a democratic way in germany at one time, there are such opportunities here, it worked, the french institution works, french democracy works, and now the only one that is not working now is the french parliament, because in... there will be a discussion, whether there will be a coalition, whether there will be a minority government, whether there will be

formed, such a transitional government of technocrats, in any case, ukraine can observe this with peace of mind, because everything that has happened now actually calms the foreign policy picture of france, that is, now only internal problems, problems, who will be at the head government, or? it will be, what will be the combination, and in principle, under any circumstances, the formation of the government will take place without the extreme right and without the extreme left, therefore such a state of affairs can be a sign of absolute calm for ukraine and we can all calmly observe, although again still remember that force is very important, but reasonable force gives results, a justified risk gives results when it acts... the government, in particular the french government, acts in such a way as not to endanger

the integrity of the country, to stop the arrival to the authorities those are the structures that could bring, well, if not a civil war, then a very serious civil civil confrontation in france. and so, mr. andrii, regarding the non-working parliament, as you said, which is not working yet, which is still in your opinion... is the most likely option for the development of events, because we see that in reality no one has a majority, and in fact, the three most important political forces, they plus or minus, of course, have, if not the same, then somewhere around the same number of mandates now, but can the centrists really get along with left, and if the main thing remains the only one, this one will remain the only one. the front, the left movement, because there are a lot of different, essentially, political forces, political movements, will

this not cause a crisis of parliamentarism in france in the next few years? no, no, there is no such threat here, because for the first time in 27 years there will be presidential elections, and this will remove any opposition, because this opposition, which may be maturing now, will be resolved in the usual democratic way through the elections of the president and then the parliament, well here or. will be the only one the left movement, no, it might not happen, and i don’t see any problems with it, because really this new popular front includes four political forces, it is... a socialist party, it is an environmental party, well, let’s say, a group of environmental parties, these are the communists, and this is an extremely left-wing structure, unruly france, that is , unconquered france, franchimise, which is headed by jean-luc milanchon, who is such an odious leader of the left, he very actively maintained at the time, well, let's say, contacts with before

a full-scale attack of russian troops in ukraine with their russians. visavi with the communist party of russia, with other structures there that were close to him, in his entourage there are enough people with russian, well with dual citizenship, for example, let's say, russian and french, but that's not important, what's important is that already during the election campaign for the european parliament, he clearly emphasized that in the case when his party is in power, whether here or in the european parliament, the attitude towards ukraine should be the same from france. just like to palestine, and to both russia and israel, which, according to mélenchon, is the same usurper of territory that russia is in relation to ukraine, so it is this position, well, it is clear that it is unacceptable for ukraine, because as he spoke against, against support for ukraine, for stopping the supply of weapons, finances in the ukrainian state as

such, not even just about military aid, so in principle, when this structure. before the elections , a normal centrist left-center coalition will break up and be formed, where it is calm, then he can already enter and the ruling party, the renaissance party and all those political forces that have come together with macron, the electoral bloc together, they will also form and it will be led, in fact it can become a majority government, they can even get, if not an absolute majority, then a figure very close to it, this will give the president an opportunity. to work and work quietly in the entire french state, but once again there is a question of discussion, there have already been proposals for the leadership of such a government, in such a combination, for the former president in france, who passed, by the way , françois olano also became a deputy, and he did not

object very much, although, of course, he decided nothing and did not confirm whether such conversations were held in the inner core. the social party to which he belongs, whether or not they were conducted, but nevertheless, attempts are made and all these, any attempts, they are in principle positive for the formation of the government, the only negative that can happen is the so-called transitional government, transitional governments, governments from technocracy, they very often naturally receive support from from the left sector, not only from the extreme left, and from the right side of the political spectrum, not only from the extreme right, and when this government of... so-called technocrats works before the presidential elections, before the presidential campaign, it is quite likely that the government, the extreme left and the extreme right will fight for power, and i think that the irrepressible president macron will have the strength and ability to bypass this temptation to form the so-called technical equal or technocratic, for now

it remains, even though gabriel talvin has resigned, he remains acting . of the prime minister, everything is working as it was, the cabinet has not been dissolved, the cabinet has not been dismissed, and it is quite likely that this will not happen before the start of the olympics and until the end as well, because someone has to provide security, someone has to provide supplies to everyone we need a sufficiently powerful structure, which is the olympic games, and most importantly - it will stabilize the authorities in order to go through this rather difficult path from... i guess in addition there are terrorist threats, terrorist threats are global, not only locally, there in paris, but in the whole of france, so i think that by the end of the olympics, it is quite likely that the old government will complete the work, but work on the coalition will continue, because, of course, after the parliamentary elections, a presidential, even a parliamentary republic cannot

function without a change of government . mr. andrii, and our dear viewers and listeners, it is probably worth reminding a little. that, in principle, the french elections became a kind of reaction and decision of the french president to the elections to the european parliament, so we know about the results, we understand the main trends, nevertheless we understand that the trends in france are completely different than in europe in general, as it seems to me, this is what is being said now about the fact that marine le pen can look for... allies in the european parliament with his national association in the form of, in particular, the hungarian prime minister orban, these are all patriots for europe, which union. can, subject to the accession of le pen and her party, become the third largest group in the european parliament, how will the elections in

france in your opinion and according to your estimates affect the overall picture with meps and the european parliament? well, yes, this is a valid question, because the frontman and the president of the national union party have already recognized the failure, the defeat. george bordala conceded defeat, he said that we lost these elections but won the european parliament elections and for both of these battles, i am responsible, both for the defeat and for the victory, and it is quite a possible scenario that lippen will want to strengthen, but it will strengthen in the european parliament, but it will lose in the national elections, that is, it will lose in france, that is, as soon as it identifies itself next to orbán and his game. or orbán is still far enough away, but his spanish portuguese colleagues here are close to france and clearly understand the difference between who

lippen wants to show herself to the public and who her colleagues in the european parliament from orbán's entourage from portugal and spain will be. in fact, because of this, she thinks twice before doing something like this. and my personal prediction is, no, she won't do it, she'll stay with miloni, she 'll stay in the environment, let's put it that way. radical conservatives and will weave their intrigues there, well, okay, weave their network in order to come to power in the 27th year in france, this is the most important thing for her, the european dimension for her, she considers it only and exclusively as the dimension that helps to realize her intentions precisely in france, in the national parliament, in the national state, i.e. the national structure, it is her ideology in this, well, and the interest, because... how old is le pen, who will soon be 80 years old, fighting for power in france and will not get it anyway, and this will naturally be the stimulus that will

drive her political power in the european parliament, i think that she will remain with the melon in the structure that it is in order to have the opportunity to win the elections in the 27th year in the presidential and parliamentary elections, it is more important for her that early elections were held now, it was also a multi-way combination with the fact that it was not possible to unite all right-wing forces in europe, this is a blow was also directed there, because it was assumed that after this, after defeat, lipin will be forced to paint her image even more in normal, not bright, let 's say, vague... in radical colors, here she will again talk about the fact that the most important thing is to increase the purchasing power, that it is necessary to take care of french

culture, and there will be less to scare the society with radical slogans and less to scare the society in general, more to call for unity, and for this it will need to demonstrate its absolutely consistent position, we agreed, we made a decision, we signed an agreement on the appropriate partnership and... we will continue to cooperate for the benefit of the new europe and the new france, i think she will proclaim such slogans from the european tribune and her large number of deputies will proclaim similar slogans from within the walls of the parliament, mr. andrii, thank you for your inclusion for your thoughts andrii shkil, politician, journalist, people's deputy. well, here are the results in france, interesting, not predictable, but which

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