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tuesday to friday from 20 to 22. there is a war going on, and not only for territories, it is also a war for minds. we are engaged in propaganda. russia is throwing millions of petrodollars into turning ukrainians into little russians. ukraine will become russia. we resist information attacks. in the project of the chronicle of the information war with olga len. tuesday thursday at 17:15, repeat tuesday, friday at 22:00. telekal's information day continues. myroslav cheh is in touch with us now. polish public figure, deputy of the polish sejm of the second-third cadence, famous historian. glory to ukraine, myroslava, glad to see you. congratulations to the heroes on the right. definitely a historic event, right? which took

a long time, the path was extremely thorny, but it happened yesterday, the ukrainian-polish security agreement was signed. unfortunately, we do not have the text of this security agreement, but there are already a number of official communications on this matter, and one of the extremely important highlights, all the more relevant during the barbaric attacks on our civilian objects, so there is an opportunity and a prospect the use of polish capabilities against air defense. in order to shoot down russian missiles, which would formally move towards poland, yes, well, i am not a rocket engineer or an anti-missile engineer, well, but as far as we understand, that is, some of the russian missiles, they fly towards the west, so to speak, so as far as will really strengthen what is called strategic military-defense cooperation between ukraine and poland, and in general, whether they will give or for... plus this agreement,

in particular, when we talk about the use of polish popo, which to a large extent consists of american forces located in poland so that they protect the west of the city of western ukraine, at least. well, your assessment is that yesterday's declaration, or the agreement signed by president zelenskyi and prime minister donald tusk, is very important. an important milestone in the history of bilateral relations, such a rather sad period of unfriendly steps, misunderstandings, mutual accusations is coming to an end, and i think that we have this behind us in the relations between poland and ukraine. the second aspect is from that discussion of the document you mentioned, it can be found that it contains a list of what. several very important points, and

some experts, in particular in poland, they said that this does not obligate him to anything, but prime minister tusk, as far as he is experienced. a politician, what does he understand, firstly, what he is signing, secondly, he really understands the importance of ukraine for the security and defense of poland, thirdly, he did a lot as the head of the european council to help ukraine, so in his declaration we can to believe, first of all, he, his, all that it is visible, i apologize, from the document, this is what he wants to include in bilateral relations, in particular. security sphere, that is , first of all, when we talk about the protection of the western territory of ukraine, the air defense systems that are located on the territory of poland and so on, nato and polish, he says, but on

this, let it be a joint decision of nato, and we have already heard a statement from washington that washington regards this proposal as serious, that is, we will... hope that at the nato summit, which is about to begin, whether it begins tonight according to kyiv before noon or at noon american time, they will be discussed as one of the key elements of nato's new policy on bringing ukraine closer to nato membership, as well as poland's decision or the declaration on the transfer of mig 20.9 in ukraine, but poland wants to get a replacement, well, security, children or protection from nato, i think that this issue can also be resolved, given that the situation with children, including

the 29, in ukraine is difficult. and the third , ultimately, aspect is the issue of the hub, i.e holding this. of the ukrainian front, which is located on the territory of poland, i am not even mentioning the nato training center for ukraine, which will be located in bydgoszcz, so the specifics, in fact, there are a lot of specifics in this document, and it is good, very good for both leaders to sign, myroslav, this the 22nd security agreement was signed by kyiv, so we understand that it is... i do not want to use the ukrainian-icelandic security agreement lightly, yes, but ukraine-polish, well, in its essence, it is more important for the general security of not only ukraine, all central european region, but they went on for a long time and, so to speak, with certain jerks, maybe on an emotional level,

maybe on an economic level, maybe on a geopolitical level, well, maybe there was some interpersonal one, so there was a significant cooling, and i would like to ask you why it took so long? and do you think it was possible to bring the situation to a stable track, which would not depend on these or other, i don't know, emotional things? well, first of all, these are not emotional things, because this was the legacy of the policies of the previous government and the fact that the previous government allowed and in fact encouraged trade the trade war with ukraine, which began in april 2023 on... the blocking of the border continued for a very long time, and under the new government, prime minister tusk met with very large protests from farmers, he did not expect these protests, he did not know that initially from them to do, the scale of these protests was quite

large, before that began, it must be said , the escalation of hybrid methods of war on the polish-belarusian border, taking into account the whole... spectrum of these issues, it must be said that it is good that the agreement was signed, there is no need to look on the situation in poland in the district colors, because it is internally very complicated, and the fact that now the prime minister, the new government, the polish government is trying to destabilize, including polish-ukrainian relations, the pace may not satisfy us, but the main thing is that... . the issue is being resolved and everything is moving forward, and it is very important that this agreement be signed on the eve of the ukraine summit, not the nato summit, because poland is going to this nato summit, and this is the joint position of the prime minister and president andrzej duda, with the strong support of the membership

ukraine joins nato, that is, poland returns to old, well-known in ukraine the rails of their politics. mr. chah, while it is safe, i will tell you in safety. in the security agreement, in particular , they agreed on the formation of a volunteer military unit from ukrainians who are currently on the territory of the european union countries, and it is noted that in... the first is about the creation of the ukrainian legion, the training of personnel of the security and defense forces of ukraine will be carried out on the territory of poland, citizens of ukraine temporarily residing in poland and other european union states will be able to join it, and it will be equipped by partners, zelenskyy said at the briefing, and said that every ukrainian who decides to be in the legion will be able to sign a contract with the armed forces of ukraine. we remember how our government tried to involve. to the mobilization processes of ukrainians abroad, there were even certain steps to limit the provision of their

diplomatic services, but we see that they decided to come up with such a very, i would say, loyal mechanism to somehow involve ukrainians who are currently in the territory of poland and the european union to chapters armed forces of ukraine. how do you generally assess this point of this security agreement, and how do you think it will be implemented and how long it will take. certain bureaucratic processes, so that this legion was formed, and actually it could somehow study on the territory of poland? well , i consider the step itself positive, it is the polish government that went to meet ukrainian, the ukrainian state, the ukrainian people in the face of russian aggression, so this step is positive, that is , poland demonstrates that even in such a sensitive issue as the mobilization and involvement of new... of the military for the defense of ukraine, is ready to help ukraine, but having said this

, i still want to say a little bit of negative towards the ukrainian state, because i think that this excitement that started around the mobilization abroad was completely unnecessary, i think that it is possible european governments, including polish ones, are ready to solve this issue with systematic steps. er, to listen to the proposals from ukraine, to leave, ready to go to a meeting with ukraine, because everyone understands that security is not indivisible, no matter what, no matter what it should happen that russia will take the upper hand in the war against ukraine, poland understands that the next target of russian aggression of inevitable russian aggression will be poland itself, everything is clear here, that is, i believe that a more systematic approach to the problems of mobilizing ukrainians is needed. who are abroad, in the same way as before the general solution of the issue of refugees, and women and children on

the territory of europe from the ukrainian state, so it worked for the ukrainian cause, the ukrainian state plus, well, i would also like to clarify, and what are the prospects in general a little to adjust the polish legislation and give the opportunity to polish citizens who show such a desire to serve in the same ukrainian legion. well, this is a question of a slightly different plan, because the same question was actually raised by the president of france, emmanuel macron, who did not rule out that the military formations of the french republic may be located on the territory of ukraine to protect which areas and its front, that is, i think, the decision will be made here not only by the polish state itself, but by other members as a whole. european nato members and members including the european union. yes, this is

an extremely important thing. and finally. look, if we are talking about the polish delegation, which has already left for the united states and has even arrived there, they moved in parallel with the visit of the president of ukraine. in your opinion, will donald tusk succeed now, who has delegated very specific things, very specific things. people now to implement this scenario that we talked about at the beginning of our conversation, so that the united states heard and gave permission for this or that scenario of using the polish ppo, to what extent will it be informal, but sincere and consistent? i do not doubt the sincerity of prime minister tusk, when it comes to prime minister tusk himself and the president , in the end, it is the same in this matter, i do not doubt his sincerity and whether? the minister of foreign affairs radisław szykotski or the minister of defense kościniak kames, i.e.

the unanimous position of all representatives of the polish authorities on this issue, decisions, i think, will be made not only by the americans, but also by the british, because polish skies are protected by the british, in that including fighter jets, so that the collective decision will be at the level of the entire nato, let's hope that the decision will be... positive, look, finally, myroslav, well, we understand that bilateral bilateral relations are polish-ukrainian, they include not only that we want to get from poland, yes, as we speak. about the security agreement, we listed what we need and what we can offer poland, and what poland would like, in particular, when we talk about the security dimension? well the answer is simple, uh against ukraine, against russian aggression, the existence, independence, territorial

integrity of ukraine is a guarantee of poland's security. here, everyone who... there are two cells in the brain, understands this very well, and there is evidence of this already throughout the history of the past almost 11 years, almost three years of large-scale war up to the ears, i apologize for such collegialism, here the interest is understood, and in the end it is supported mostly understood by the majority of poles. thank you, myroslav chech, a polish public figure, was on the live air of express, we are moving on, now we will have a little break after that, we continue to work for you, so stay with us. attention, a profitable offer, order a smart light bulb at a special promotional price, only uah 149. durable, reliable and so powerful, and the price is only uah 149. in stores, ordinary light bulbs cost

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city military, city military-civilian administration. glory to ukraine, mr. oleksandr. glory to heroes. well, battles near stelmakhivka, grekivka, nevsky, and makiivka. yes, i think you have additional information. share, be kind. the level of fighting and how difficult is the situation there? well, you know, as far as we have information, the situation is enough difficult, despite the fact that there are still civilians there, the enemy continues to strike with heavy artillery, reactive weapons systems, currently both nevsky and makiyeivka were fired upon in the past house, a lot of hits, so it is quite difficult, and the part that remains is small under the control of our armed forces, constantly suffers from shelling. and what

is happening near the srebryan forestry? now we understand that there is a third separate assault brigade and other units that are trying to knock the enemy out of there, do you have any idea how they are deployed events in this direction, of course, some non-classified information that does not harm... our defense forces, you know, i can say that our defense forces are holding the positions that they are defending, it is quite difficult, because there are constant fires in the forests, this complicates the situation and adds intensity, but the boys manage. mr. oleksandr, we understand that in the temporarily occupied territories of luhansk. the region has its own occupation specifics, yes, share, be kind with the latest news from there, yes, in what regime does the enemy work, if we speak

about the search for our patriots, to what extent they are indiscriminate and so on, well, you know, what concerns our community, people live by getting in touch with their relatives, going out. to communicate with loved ones in the controlled territory, they take a risk every time, given that there is no severodonetsk connection itself, it is only available to privileged persons and close to the occupation authorities, so somewhere you have to go to the villages, somewhere you have to go to the outskirts, but however, phones are checked, both children and adults are checked periodically, so this situation is enough. is declining and people are under constant pressure. and to break out, for example, through the front line, is there any possibility for people? well,

at the moment, those who, those who manage to, er, return to ukraine under control, it is only through large circles, through the countries of europe, since it is not possible to directly cross the front line. and what is the front line, well ... in those places, for example, where there are no acute combat operations? well, you know, it's still the front line, which is replaced, which carries a threat, so, well, it's connected with such risks to life, which do not allow people to cross it. and please tell me, mr. oleksandr, what is currently happening in the occupied territories in the context of how the russians are behaving, whether certain contingents from the territory of the russian federation are now being actively imported there, how they make a living there, and in general, what

the fate of the real estate, housing of those people who, for example, left there and do not plan to return, at least until these territories are de-occupied, you know, factories guest workers, they are already bringing their families, well, there is information that in the same north-donetsk region already... families go there, women go there in such oriental clothes, wrapped from head to toe, sometimes they appear there at the end during the day, but during the day they try not to show themselves, er, they occupy vacant apartments and the housing of our north don citizens is forcibly alienated, they are allegedly nationalized, and in some cases this contributes to it. as well as former neighbors who may try to somehow claim this housing later, mostly the russians themselves choose what they

like, formal. some kind of procedure is being conducted there, supposedly an announcement about the possible recognition of a homeless person, in fact such a legalized racket is taking place on the spot, a robbery of our northonians. mr. oleksandr, allow me, i would also like to clarify, if we understand correctly, then unfortunately, people who had some real estate there, and if this real estate fell into the hands of the occupiers, then in ukraine, in the states of ukraine, these people cannot ask compensation, reparation... for this housing that they had behind the contact line, yes, which is now, well, in the territory that is now under occupation, as i understand it, these people are simply left with nothing, and they also cannot claim any compensation, you know, for damaged housing, destroyed, you know that the mechanisms are working and they are starting to work little by little, what concerns the villages of silomyce deprived housing. uh, well

, we understand with you that there will be de-occupation and people will return to their homes, since this is all illegal and what is happening there is actually such an appropriation, as long as the situation allows them, look, i would like to ask you also about the pace of forced or non-forced mobilization in the temporarily occupied territories of luhansk region, well, forced passporting is going on, almost already... almost everyone has received passports, it is impossible to leave the region, from severo-donetsk, without documents, and well, almost the entire male population their so-called military mothers or what they organized there should be registered there, and it is connected with those who work there somewhere in the communal sphere or are somehow connected with some payments, or banal

people work for... and they all have to stand on accounting. thank you, oleksandr stryuk, head of the tsivirodonetsk city military civil administration, was in direct contact with us. now, antin and i still have time to give you some news, so the government says that it will completely rebuild okhmadit and allocate uah 100 million from the reserve fund for priority works, said denys shmehal, the prime minister of ukraine, and i will actually remind you of what is on the territory. medito completed emergency rescue operations today, in total 32 people died and more than a hundred people were injured in the capital. well, it's important messages about non-european european integration, in particular georgia, so the eu ambassador to georgia pavlo herchynskyi emphasized that georgia's accession to the eu is currently suspended. this was reported by the echo of the caucasus resource. enlargement is one of the most important challenges facing georgia.

it is still unclear whether it will be the next part of the next big wave of eu enlargement. i sincerely hope that it will be so, and after the october elections we will resume our work, but for now, georgia's accession to the eu is suspended and the leaders of the european union have stated this very clearly after the summit of the european council. i can't imagine that this year georgia will move forward and take the appropriate steps, so we understand that the real power in georgia... is held by the pro-russian oligarchic circles, and now this is a very significant and serious signal. well, that's the situation, you can't do anything, but i think that tomorrow we will get to know you and analyze more events, for today antin and i say goodbye to you and say good luck, take care of yourself, but remember that literally in a few seconds there will be news on the espresso tv channel, our colleague anna

javamelnyk will share with you everything on... the most important thing, so please don't miss it, and stay with espresso, the evening slot is taking over weddings in winter, so wait for it later, all the best, take care and see you tomorrow greetings to all viewers of espresso, i'm on eva melnyk and this is the news. explosions rang out in odesa , oleg kipar, the head of the region, announced. the air force reports a ballistic threat from the south, it was also loud in myrhorod, poltava region. calls on ukrainians who are in the regions where an air alert has been declared, stay in shelters until

the strike. the state plans to completely rebuild.