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in central areas 34-39, maybe even up to +40, this is the synoptic hot situation, of course, keep a close eye on the updated weather forecasts on the espresso channel. good evening, we are from ukraine. we continue, and now with you vasyl zemale already in the verdict program for the next hour we will talk about the nato summit, opportunities for ukraine, threats, bridges, doors are open, wider open, even wider open, the role of corruption in such an inhibiting factor for the promotion of ukraine into nato, is this not the role of corruption, which countries are hindering the entry ukraine to nato, revelations from french president emmanuel macron, well, actually, this is the first topic, let's talk about the economic one. reservations, the state of the ukrainian
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economy, prospects, taxes, prices, consumer prices, inflation, ah, working hands, and actually, how can we save resources for both the war and the war economy, that is, two such topics, well , we will start anyway also with regard to the issue of the nato summit, international politics and ukrainian prospects, what we can hear, or what we will voice is also very important in these e. few days, as long as this summit lasts, volodymyr yelchenko, a diplomat, is with us, mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you, but he is not there yet, but i am today, well, that's what my colleagues tell me that there is no contact with our guest yet, but he, he must this connection will definitely be established, because it would not be the same. so that
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there is no connection, expectations from the nato summit, you know, today i read a lot of statements by various politicians, but i especially liked them, well, not because i liked them, because macron said it, but because he is a person who when says something, then she has a certain information about what she says, well, let's say, when the full-scale war of russia against ukraine began in 2022, later boris johnson, at that time the prime minister of great britain, told which countries... ukraine, and which countries were the most active, what was said by this or that politician, this or that head of state, when russian tanks crossed the borders of our state, and this is already history, it is already clear, and now, when emmanuel macron says about, names the countries that slow down the most or they don’t want to, or i don’t know what to call it, well, they are probably delaying ukraine’s accession to nato, because they have reservations about it, well , it’s worth listening to it, i see that mr. volodymyr is already with us, volodymyr yelchenko, a diplomat, mr. ... volodymyr, i congratulate you,
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good evening, thank you for joining, come on, i, of course, the main topic is the nato summit, it should start at 0:00 outside kyiv, as far as i understand, if i heard my colleagues correctly, maybe you will correct me, yes, but we this two-day summit, which is to be held in washington, i still want to start with the words of french president emmanuel macron, who said that germany and... the usa are the most, i will say this, not promoting ukraine's entry into the north atlantic alliance, you should believe macron, why this statement done, well, in fact, what is meant, and because the representatives of germany or the usa can say the same, maybe about the president of france, well, for example, that is, here it is worth understanding who to believe and how adequate and important for perception such statements are, you you know, on my opinion... president macron is right, although i
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believe his words a lot, but nevertheless he is saying what many other western leaders are thinking, unfortunately there are no real leaders in the west today, i mean the likes of reagan, the us president, the former, like margaret thatcher, like nelson mandela, many others can be mentioned, but none the less. they are not, today's leaders of the western world, they are very careful, they look back at the elections, at what awaits them in their countries, they are not able to look beyond horizon, as they say, that is, imagine, if there was no president reagan, then probably today we would still have... in the soviet union,
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he went through himself, he, he decided that this was his life's task for him , and he did everything in order to... to destroy this empire, but to date there is no such leader of the western world, unfortunately, and that is why we hear again that there will be a certain bridge between ukraine and nato, will be opened door, between ukraine and nato, but it is not what we expect, and unfortunately, it can end with the complete domination, let's say, of imperial russia in the world, and the western world will get one more, or rather, the same rival or opponent that it has had there for the last 100 years, and
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without doing anything for to defeat this adversary before it is at full strength, that's my prediction for the nato summit, that is, we don't... get membership, we get an invitation to nato membership, unfortunately, from a positive point of view, i would said that yes, we will probably be promised something additional weapons, ideally, well, this is my personal opinion, in which there is no confirmation, but i think that there is still some reason to hope that ... there could be some kind of agreement between nato as a union, that is, as an alliance and ukraine about security guarantees, because finally this is the main thing we need. well, to summarize, i think that all the previous
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authorities of ukraine, including the current one, made the same mistake. we wanted to join nato only to protect ourselves with article five. the charter of the northern alliance, at that time, as we needed to join nato, and today we need it, as a country that considers itself a member of the euro-atlantic family, well, there are certain reforms that have not been done, there are certain things that we still have to do, but one way or another, we cannot all it's time to say that we want to become a member of nato, because we are supposed to be protected... by this alliance, it doesn't happen like that, you know, today i was discussing here, i try never to quarrel on facebook, but to discuss with people, and we talked about the power of nato and about the capabilities of nato in, well, if
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we are now just carrying out the nuclear one by the brackets potential, and russia is the largest nuclear power in the world, it has as many as 600 warheads, in my opinion, if i'm not mistaken, the friend of the usa, well, what kind. that's a different question, but we are talking about the number, if we are taking nuclear weapons out of the brackets now, we are talking about conventional weapons, medium- and long-range missiles , and all these other resources and so on, and i discussed that i say, that is , a big plus of nato, and probably the main one, is that if we speak frankly at all, but if we speak frankly, we watched the survey among representatives of certain countries, how many of your citizens would be protected? your state, then the french, representatives of individual countries, were most ready to claim their state , the minimum number of men there were ready to defend, the majority were not ready, and some were ready to go abroad, this is about the possibility of citizens of countries, members of nato, to enter the war in the event of an invasion of russia, because
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again, any alliance is tested only in war, russia before the invasion of ukraine was also considered the second army of the world, and i read, i remember how now the statement of one... polish general, who said that he did not believe, he really did not believe, that the russian guards first tank army was defeated by ukrainian troops, they thought that it would reach warsaw, so how could it be otherwise, this is russia, this is the second army of the world, but why are they being beaten near kiev, and what about you, that's why i lead to the point that, despite everything, everything is checked only in practice, only in practice, that's why we are now we talk about nato as a potential, and of course a huge plus is what everyone wants, including ukraine, it's... the usa is here without question, because a nuclear war is something that can destroy rusto, so this is an indisputable plus, but speaking, i just want to hear your opinion, and now in this situation, understanding , let's say, other actions regarding ukraine by nato
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could provoke russia to attack nato countries, but just imagine the development of the scenario further, maybe nato is not ready for this, but they simply won't say it. you know, i think they're afraid of their own shadow, i think, of course, i'm not a military man, i no... i can't fully understand all the risks, which perhaps military experts in nato countries understand better than i do, but it seems to me that, for example, creating the same no-fly zone, that is, a no-fly zone over ukraine, it was still possible back in february or march 2024, excuse me , the 22nd year, it would be possible to cover with a certain umbrella of nato or individual countries, at least half of ukraine,
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at least western ukraine, it would be possible to approve the decision to introduce certain peacekeeping forces on the territory of ukraine, it is not necessarily the troops of nato or nato countries that should be stationed in donbas, or in the sumy region or in the chernihiv region, at least in western ukraine, you know, these troops are on the rampage... the armed forces of ukraine, which could well more practically be used in the east, in the south by our state, that is, there are many different options, it was possible to sign, well, some kind of agreement between nato and ukraine on security, on the defense of ukraine. all this was done in previous years by the same bosnia and kosovo. even libya and iraq, these were hybrids
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peacekeeping forces in which they participated, well, under the umbrella of the un, we understand that russia will block any decision of the un security council on this matter, but nevertheless, it would be possible to at least try to do this, no one has tried this, but why, because i said from the beginning, there are no leaders in the west as real as there were before, who can look over the... over the horizon and see the danger that awaits the whole world and primarily the western world, to western europe, in the case of russia and putin today, they are not stop you know, when people say that for putin, seizing ukraine is an existential issue, he will simply eat himself, like the one in vasyl symonenko's poem that macaque zabiaka ate himself out of fear, that's about the same. history itself, but studying the history of muscovy, and then russia, well, let's say, if we talk
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about the livonian war, ivan the terrible decided to stop this war, he corresponded with stefan batory for a certain time, but when batory's troops were already standing near pskov, then immediately somehow ivan the terrible decided that perhaps it is possible to negotiate, and then there was an ambassador from rome, from the vatican, who came first to batory, then to grozny, and they agreed, actually, when the threat was already under... and ivan the terrible understood that this long livonian war was not has prospects, he immediately gave up his very holy ideas, which were very important to him, but it turned out that they are not so important anymore, the same goes for ukraine, when there are circumstances insurmountable for russia, i am more than convinced that kyiv will no longer be holy , there will not be a single baptismal font there, as it once was said their head of the russian church, the question is all about prospects and possibilities, obviously putin still sees these prospects. and here it is very important, and here it is very important to understand what can
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make these prospects for him, not real, but the circumstances irresistible, because now , as a matter of fact, according to various estimates, there are up to 500 thousand russian troops on the territory of ukraine, let's imagine that there is no ukrainian army to restrain him, and these 5,000 are standing on the border of nato countries in the european union, just imagine for a second, and even then... once the picture changes a little, my understanding changes a little, it changes why ukraine should be in nato, because today it is actually this eastern outpost for nato, it is clear, there is no doubt that this horde could calmly, could calmly push on , and strong ukrainian diplomacy must be in this situation, what must ukrainian diplomacy do in order to convince with the support of course the troops at the front, because without success at the front or deterring the enemy at the front, the words de... become very elusive for our western partners, what should be done? i'm not talking now about the summit itself, in general, the nearest time,
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let it be until autumn, let it be until winter, ukrainian diplomacy, in order to maximize for putin the prospects of what they will come to him and say, well, let's put up with the most vague and certain only a mirage, please , i think there are two sides to this issue, on the one hand we need to continue to convince the western world that... they are wrong in their, you know, caution or expectation that with putin it is possible still to agree, i think that nothing can be done with him. to agree on it, this is the number one task, the number two task is to work with the third world, with the global south, unfortunately, if we look at the same summit in switzerland, the peace summit dedicated to ukraine, or at the meeting of the un general assembly,
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there were a little more votes in our favor, more than 140, that's a lot, that's... 2/3, let's say so, of the membership of the un, but none the less, well, mostly the majority of the countries of the third world, or the global south, as it is today as it is customary to call, they take a very cautious wait-and-see position, that is, they sympathize with ukraine, but at that time they are not ready to quarrel with the russian federation. you know, from my own experience, i remember when i was still working in the middle of ukraine. and talked to at least half of the ambassadors of african countries to the un, 52 of them in total, so let's take it this way, let's say 35-40, they all told me the same thing, the same thesis or the same narrative, how good it was when there was the soviet union, and then he
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fell apart and russia and ukraine appeared, the soviet union helped us fin. weapons, people, he created our economy, and there were no problems, no questions, and then you fell apart and you had problems, well, now you have a war between russia and ukraine, and what should we do, and i them i say, so support us in this situation, they say, no, you'd better make peace with the russian federation. and become one country again, and then we will receive all those bonuses that we received during there 50-70 or 100 years in addition, here is the attitude of african countries to this conflict, to this war, that is, it means one thing that our diplomacy is not finalizing, there is no information in
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african countries about what is actually happening between ukraine and the russian federation. to a lesser extent it applies to southeast asia, latin america, there, well, yes, frankly speaking, with all due respect to the african continent, more civilized countries, more knowledgeable, but nevertheless, there is very little information, they do not understand, they do not know what is happening in the center of europe, which there is really a global war going on there, which can eventually grow into the third world war or the fourth, now they say, if you consider the cold war as the third world war, and then no one will be better off, but this needs to be explained, you need to go to the masses and to tell about it, i think that it is not that it is not done, but that it is not done enough, you know, i can agree with you, especially about
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african countries, well, egypt is northern africa, but i was once there in some tourist such the employee told how grateful they were to the soviet union, because there were belarusians, ukrainians, and kazakhs in this group, and he says that the soviet union helped us build some kind of dam there, or something, or a hydroelectric power plant, and he says, we are thankful that it used to be so good, but we eat potatoes, they collect potatoes there twice a year or something, and we sent them, well , there are some nostalgic ones, but for us it is not nostalgia, and it was not nostalgia, but now it is a cruel reality, and actually this was a cruel... reality, just then generations grew up, who no longer remembered the famine, and all this was forgotten, buried, trampled, as they say, into this ground of history, it is good that today everyone understands everything, everyone knows everything, although in ukraine many people do not understand anything, do not know , we still have people in the villages, and not only in the villages, but in the cities, who say that it was not putin who attacked, it was america that attacked ukraine, there really are such people who say that, and you are simply amazed, where are you,
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among whom do you live, thank god that, after all, there are much more knowledgeable ukrainians, i... i would still like to have six minutes there, but i want to hear your opinion, as a specialist and an experienced person, because we talked with my colleagues, we don't agree, but look, there is something going on about this, i don't say now, again, i do not justify, i do not say that there should be a truce, there should not be, i do not know what should happen, we should win, and ukraine should be, but this move, we, putin says, give four regions , then he says, let's hold the istanbul talks, somehow we'll be there... orban heads the eu, hungary, presides there, flies to kyiv, flies to moscow, as his called putin's ears and mouth, then he flies to china, some people say even in... in ukraine, some people say that, after all, some kind of peace is better there, some kind of peace there, the main thing is not to shoot, and then, if this work is going on, it was
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inspired by russia, i’m not saying that it’s right or wrong, no, it’s just going, at this moment the arrival of the children’s hospital after the children’s hospital, blood, killed, dead, horror, the main children’s clinic of the country under a missile shelling, even the un admits that it is a russian missile, and not some debris, it is all obvious, and then the question is: how is this, what do you want, please explain this logic, does anyone in russia want these, let it be that the negotiations are wrong, but at least some negotiations, someone wants the continuation of such a cruel war, so that zelenskyy would come and say: well , please give us something, we are ready to be, what is happening, explain the logic of this, because there is no logic here, maybe there is no such logic in russia, i don’t know, but well, here you have to at least understand that these two lines are parallel, which do not intersect, escalation. and talks about peace and orban's travels around the world? you know, well, this is a difficult question, on the one hand, as a diplomat, as a person who
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spent a significant part, well, at least there for almost four years, in moscow, as an ambassador to the russian federation, with all my, with all my attitude towards russia , which, as you well understand, has not improved recently. it was not particularly so rosy, nevertheless, i understand that one way or another we will have to, at a certain stage, come to an agreement with these non-humans about something, or is it will be the russia that exists today, whether it will be putin or without putin, i think that, of course , under putin we will not agree on anything with this country, with those who will come to replace it. i'm not sure that these people will be better than, but nevertheless, one way or another, as a diplomat, i believe that, well, any war, you know, i didn't
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say this, this is a thesis that, well, is historical, to a certain extent, any war ends in negotiations, i would like to see these negotiations begin as soon as possible, but today i see no reason for them, because i still once again... that there is absolutely nothing to negotiate with this freak whose last name is putin, well , after yesterday's attack on kyiv, on the children's hospital, well, it's not possible at all, well, i can't imagine how it is possible to sit down at the negotiating table with these inhumans, on the other hand, one way or another it is necessary to negotiate with them, or not with them, or with the future leaders, well, of the country that will be in the place of today's federation, so today we are pushed to negotiations or negotiations, because in the west , unfortunately, in my personal opinion, and not only mine, i am it
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i also hear from many western experts, my colleagues with whom i communicate, that there is no strategy, there is no clear strategy, what to do next with this war, what to do with russia, some are afraid that russia will disintegrate, fall apart, and... the spread of nuclear weapons or some kind of uncontrolled conflict will start there, although we already went through all this in 1991 after the collapse of the soviet union and nothing terrible happened, at that time the president of the usa bush, sr. was also afraid, he came to kyiv, in the verkhovna rada, told about what ukraine should not secede from the soviet union, because that would be chaos and disaster. nevertheless, this chaos happened. and nothing terrible happened. i think we also need to convince our diplomats, our politicians, our leaders, our western partners, that
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there is nothing wrong with the collapse of russia, because with the country that is today called the russian federation, uh, i don't see no prospects, no negotiations, no agreements, well, you know what i mean... i mean, this, this people with whom there is simply nothing to talk about, if there is someone left in the west who thinks that it is possible to agree on something with them, i will never agree with such a person, and believe me, this is my own experience, my political, diplomatic experience , i know many people in the russian federation with whom i communicated, well, i have not communicated with them for many years, but i remember when i communicated with him that there is nothing to talk about with these people, they belong to a completely different civilization , ee or anti-civilization intersects. with
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the civilization in which we and the western world find ourselves. you know, it's like really two worlds, when, for illustration, a tiger conditionally kills an antelope to feed its children, it has its own logic. the antelope dies, her children die, because there is no mother, it is a tragedy, but the tiger has his own logic, he believes that he is doing the right thing, but it is putin who thinks that he is doing the right thing, his adviser. kadyrov, as his last name was there, said that if the empire does not expand, it dies, and they do not want to die, but expand at the expense of who, oh ukraine, and ukraine should become a bone in the throat, and they should understand that they will not expand at our expense, this is a joint effort, and above all of our army and all the ukrainian people, who finance the army and our partners, thank you very much, thank you that we talked objectively and professionally, and not without emotions, but without emotions it is impossible to speak here, thank you very much, mr. volodymyr,
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volodymyr yevchenko, diplomat. was in touch with us, now natalka didenko will talk about what the weather will be like in ukraine tomorrow, whether it will be hot or something else, well then we will talk about the economic topic, which i have already announced, wait, it will be interesting, synoptic hello to all, our dear viewers, we will talk about the weather that is expected for the next day, right away. i want to say that the heat will not only continue, but also intensify, and therefore first we will still wander in some park in order to at least somehow escape from this excessive heat, and today we will look into the wonderful, beautiful holosiiv nature park, national, and a little to your attention history and various interesting facts, by the way, the holosiivsky national nature park is the only one in ukraine
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and one of several in the world. of national parks, which is completely located within the boundaries of the metropolis, within the city, how good it would be if, for example, everyone appreciated and understood this , especially people who, for example, depend on the development or such very strange hobbies and strange attractions in the middle of the park , where there are a lot of animals and plants that belong, for example, to the red book. golosivskyi national nature park, well, what do i say said, it is located within the boundaries of kyiv, and that is why there are a lot of such objects located on its territory as part of the historical areas of kyiv itself, this is holosiev, kitayev, by the way, i emphasize, please, not holosievo, not kitayevo, not kyiv, kyiv, holosiiv, kitaiv, also mysholovka, feofania, konchazaspa, bilichy, svyatoshyn, pushcha voditsa and so on, also the animal world of holosiiv park is very diverse, because we still walk around the park, pay
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attention to the trees, there on plants 92 species of vertebrates, 11 species of amphibians, seven species of reptiles, 108 species of birds, i don't know if they all still remain here, to be honest, due to the fact that unscrupulous people sometimes invade the golosivsky park, also among these representatives of the fauna are 150 species, as i already said, vertebrates animals and 27 species of insects have protection statuses of the international state level, this is how holosiivsky park will be decorated, and may it serve us for a long, long time. we move on to the behavior of the earth's magnetic field. for your attention , as always, the forecast chart, and looking at it, it is clear that there are some super-powerful magnetic storms are not predicted, we have enough of the heat, so we leave the space alone and return to the actual atmospheric behavior over ukraine. i want to say right away that
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hot weather will dominate everywhere, but still... there are nuances, so in the western part of ukraine, in the next day, i.e. tomorrow, july 10, 30-33° above zero is expected, dry weather, the north of ukraine will also start to warm up little by little stronger, not just to warm up, stronger, 31.34 above zero, strong heat 34-37° in the east. in the central part of ukraine is expected to be dry. with an anticyclonic character 32-37 above zero, very hot in the southern part of ukraine, 34.38°, dry and sunny, high fire danger, be careful, and it will be hot in kyiv tomorrow, the maximum air temperature will fluctuate around +33°, about precipitation for there is no such heat.

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