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what will the russian attack on okhmadid change in western support for ukraine? how will partner countries react to such russian aggression, or will they increase aid? we talk about all this on bbc live. from london, i'm yevgenia shedlovska. western countries condemned the russian attack on a children's hospital in kyiv. a terrible reminder of russian brutality, said president biden, nato agent jens stoltenberg called the attack a disgusting attack and promised at the nato summit, which begins in washington, that a decision will be made and support for ukraine will be strengthened. the summit will last three days. the leaders of all 32 countries of the alliance are converging on it, and president zelensky will also be there.
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we will talk about expectations from this meeting a little later, and today an extraordinary meeting of the un security council was held in new york, which was requested to be convened by ukraine. russia chairs the security council, and it was russian ambassador vasyl nebendzia who led this meeting. he repeated the russian version, without evidence, that it was a ukrainian missile that hit the hospital. in addition to diplomats, the head of okhmandyd, volodymyr zhovnir, spoke remotely at the meeting. he told that the doctors and children experienced the real thing. the representatives of the un at this meeting said: the attack on the hospital is a war crime, they believe that the hospital in kyiv was most likely hit by a russian missile. on july 8 , russia launched a massive missile attack on many ukrainian cities, but the main world news was the attack on a children's hospital in kyiv. just look at the front pages of british newspapers. times headline prime minister starmer under increasing pressure to raise defense spending. the nato summit, by the way, will be his first... public event on
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the position of prime minister of britain, then the daily mail, it has a large circulation and writes: atrocities that show why britain and nato should spend more on defense. tabloit mirror. putin bombs children with cancer. the russian strike caused a global stir. putin's war has reached a new ruinous bottom, to paraphrase the mirror. and let 's see, the guardian writes: "war against life." the daily telegraph immediately gives a photo of a crying mother and so on in the first column. russia bombed a children's hospital. because of at least two adults and 32 people were killed in the attack on ohmadid, including children . bbc correspondent james waterhouse saw how rubble was dismantled after the russian strike. yesterday everything looked different here. debris clearance is already a common practice for ukrainian rescuers. but this russian attack also affected those it hit. and where? the children's hospital is full of
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patients. dmytro ivanov leads a team of volunteers who have been helping to clear the rubble of the formation from missile attacks since the beginning of the full-scale war. the man says that these are these days there is more work than ever. such work is a normal weekday for us, but yesterday we were in despair, because this is a children's hospital. it is very terrible. kyiv categorically rejects moscow's claims that it caused these destructions. a ukrainian air defense missile and says it has proof it was a russian missile and it was launched on purpose. this attack posed difficult questions for ukraine, several cruise missiles hit their targets in the center of the city. and kyiv feels the need for air defense more than ever. rockets terrorize society, but they have not yet weakened ukrainian determination. however, if the risk to life increases, it will affect people's morale.
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at the time of the attack, nurse valentina was working in this department, she says that currently approximately 600 patients of the hospital do not have access to critical medical care. because ahmadet is not just a children's hospital, it is an all-ukrainian hospital. that's why it's very scary, they just can't believe their fathers that such a tragedy happened in this place. rescue operations continue throughout kyiv. bodies of the dead are still being found in other areas. it one of the worst attacks since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, which began already 2.5 years ago, but to ukrainians, these two years seem longer. during two years of full-scale war, russia has never once admitted that it is attacking civilian objects in ukraine. all the destruction, the russians explain the work of the ukrainian air defense, so it was and now. well, a bbc department. analyzed
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the available evidence and found out how and with what ohmandid was hit. these are shots from kyiv, where a children's hospital was seriously damaged. it happened during a russian airstrike, but... russia claims these destructions were caused by a ukrainian anti-aircraft missile. ukraine claims to have found the remains of a russian cruise missile, so who is right? the two videos we reviewed are very important to the investigation of the russian claims. first, you can see a huge puff of smoke in the distance before impact, and the second video is crucial. we slowed it down, zoomed in, and followed the rocket. here you can see her coming into view moments before the collision. take it. note that these are very blurry shots, the still footage is also very blurry, but we showed the video to six weapons experts who regularly review low-quality footage like this, and they all said it didn't look like an anti-aircraft missile, as russia claims. for example, timo tirait from the international
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institute for strategic studies, said that the speed of the missile, the angle of impact, the profile, and especially the sound of the powerful turbofan with a high frequency, is very characteristic and gives it a cruise missile. this is a russian cruise missile and one of its distinguishing features that i 'm going to show you now is the turbo engine in the back, right here, and this is what some of our experts have focused on. let's go back to the freeze frame, this is the freeze frame of this video, and if i just zoom in on this tail end, what i just showed you is exactly what our experts were comparing it to, and andre gennen, one of them, he said, what is it... almost certainly kha-101. a characteristic feature of this rocket is the turbofan engine in the rear, which protrudes and looks like a small box. no one was absolutely sure exactly which missile was used, but everyone agreed that it
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was most likely a russian missile launched from the air. five out of six experts mention the russian x101 missile as the most likely, according to what ukraine has claimed. ukrainian the security service has released photos showing that debris from the hasto-1 missile was found at the impact site, but we cannot independently verify it. russia has repeatedly stated that ukrainian weapons accidentally hit their cities. as bbc verify, we continue to verify these claims and follow the development of the situation. meanwhile , putin does not say a single word about the attack on kyiv in moscow. he hosted the prime minister of india at randrud. during meetings. in front of the cameras , they talked about the importance. peace, and i quote: the ukrainian crisis: politicians did not directly mention shelling, except that the indian prime minister said that it breaks his heart to see how innocent children die. and while putin is silent, his spokesman dmytro piskov said that kyiv is doing pr on blood.
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he called the destruction of the hospital the background for zelensky at the summit nato. russia's war against ukraine will be a key topic of the nato summit starting in washington. zmi writes: ukraine can be promised. not reversion to the alliance, but will also announce the details of a 40 billion euro aid package, which will include air defense systems. but the meeting, planned to celebrate the alliance's 75th anniversary, will actually be another test for him, the bbc's security correspondent jonathon beale says, overthinking how to defend against a possible trump return. stoltenberg, the secretary general of nato received from the allies. allocating another €40 billion in military aid to ukraine next year, what he has failed to do is turn that military support into a five-year commitment, what is called trump protection because of the political uncertainty, he has the strong support of keir starmer, and for
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the prime minister of great britain it will be the first big test in the international arena. he made it clear that nato would remain a cornerstone of britain's security, and that he wants to speed up military aid to ukraine, but the question that is on the minds of many leaders here is, yes, they will demonstrate that ukraine is united, and will it be the same next year, especially if donald trump, a critic of the alliance, a critic of giving weapons to ukraine, is elected for the second term, this is the question that will invisibly hang over the participants of the summit. why does nato need this conditional protection from trump. trump is not predictable, which. what policy he will pursue if he wins the presidential elections in the united states is unclear. in in the past, trump said: the united states will not defend those countries of the alliance that do not spend enough on defense, and this actually undermines the foundations of nato, in which the fifth article provides not for selective participation in the alliance, but that an attack on one of the allies
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is an attack on everyone and in general, such statements call into question other international obligations of the united states. but will representatives of nato countries be more decisive? in helping ukraine now after the strikes on july 8, and how symbolic it is that the russian strike took place the day before that of the alliance's anniversary summit, analyzes the bbc security viewer frank. it is hardly a coincidence that the attack took place just one day before the three-day nato summit in washington. the kremlin is sending a very sharp signal to nato leaders, who are gathering to celebrate nato's 75th anniversary, that russia has no intention of stopping its offensive against ukraine without victory, but this is not the first russian attack on ukrainian medical facilities. according to the international rescue committee, since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of ukraine, that is, since february 2000. on the 22nd of the year, russia struck 1,700 attacks on medical facilities throughout
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ukraine. the worst of them happened in cities like mariupol, but this attack on kyiv rynna in ours is because a rocket hit a children's hospital. experts have identified the missile as an x101 cruise missile launched from an aircraft, from the air. so independent experts conducted an examination and rejected russia's claims that it was allegedly a ukrainian air defense missile. from the point of view of... the wider conflict, if you look at the map, then the front line hasn't changed much, but what about the battlefield? russia is making progress almost every day every week but with huge losses in manpower, soldiers on the battlefield, they are suffering huge losses, but russia does not care as much and care about the lives of its soldiers as ukraine does. moscow is ready to throw human waves at ukrainian positions. they know that the ukrainians do not have enough ammunition, they do not have enough manpower, weapons, and they are slowly... pushing the ukrainians out of donbas, so the maps do not change, as they say, but one must look at the overall picture of the war
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in ukraine. russia hopes to exhaust the ukrainians, and ultimately to break the connection between ukraine and nato. it is essentially a war of attrition. russia has actually put its economy on a war footing. moscow now spends 40% of its state budget on defense, unlike in the west. therefore, russia wants to destroy not only ukraine, but also nato's readiness to support ukraine with its numbers and strength. in this war. and finally the opinion of another viewer, the former adviser to the nato secretary general mark leighty answered on the bbc the question, what can ukraine expect from this nato summit in washington? this became a tragic confirmation of ukraine's needs, but i think that in reality it will not change what nato will do, because the alliance is already doing a lot and has prepared a fresh aid package for the summit. if you look at those promises for a few months. that have been done, billions of dollars will soon come to ukraine both in
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the form of aid and in the form of missiles directly. therefore, the events once again emphasize the determination of the alliance and add an emotional background to the summit, but in reality they will not change the fact that which was decided earlier. participants will increase support for ukraine. they will not give ukraine everything it wants. because ukraine wants so much. but it will still be a lot. however, nato must be done. more, especially relevant for ukraine, and this is emphasized by many commentators, this is the need for an aid package for many years, because now it is a war of attrition, and putin expects to wait out nato, so nato must say and do something to confirm his readiness to be with ukraine for a long time, and if the alliance is there for a long time, it will help to win in this war of attrition. the big unknown here is the united states, they have a big... trump, the question is whether the next bundle of money will be a share of the money, and if they are re-elected in the fall
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, it will be just as big. there is great doubt about this. funding of other nato countries will remain more or less at the same level. even if france had a right-wing government that would make life difficult for macron. but i don't see any changes in nato funding. the problem is that the stockpile of weapons has run out, or is running out. this is not the case only about money, but also about weapons. and in recent... summers, many stocks were sold, so military stocks in the west are quite low, it is necessary not only to pour in more funds, but also to develop the military-industrial base in order to provide for ukraine's own needs and needs in the future. well, we will follow the statements at the nato summit in washington already tomorrow on the air and also on the bbc.ua website. so see you.
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we hear that someone is walking, walking, this drunk military man came in, called my mother, into another room. he quickly let go of his mother, then rang the doorbell me, well, i kind of came to terms with it, if psychologically, you know, if i left the body, conditionally, waited until it all happened and
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returned to the body, i generally wanted, no one knew, i didn’t even want to contact the police, this it's just that my mother turned and told me, then i had to too. on the night of february 24, daria and her boyfriend dmytro were awake, packing their suitcases for the train that was supposed to leave kyiv in the morning. reports
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of the beginning of a full-scale war on the part of russia have been in the air for more than a month. the couple was going to evacuate to the west of the country, we started hearing explosions and it was clear that this was exactly what we were afraid of. i called our friends in lviv, to whom we were planning to go, they said that there were also explosions there, so we decided to stay in kyiv and called our parents a little later. daria's father lived in the village of havronshchyna, not far from kyiv. in the house that once belonged to daria's grandparents. the couple decided to go there to wait out what seemed like a few terrible days. well, actually for me it is such a valuable place, it is my place of strength. i
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love him very much, and in principle i thought that in such moments should be together with the family. so we weighed all the factors and decided to go there to be all together. already knock 20 flew by. at this time, russian troops had already begun to capture kyiv region and the southern regions. including the kherson region, where 16-year-old marina lived. i remember waking up this morning to go to school and looking at what they were writing, the master wrote that we were not going to the lyceum because the war had started, this
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news knocked the ground out from under marina's feet, she was five months pregnant. the next one one day she had to go to a nearby city for an examination, to find out the gender of the future child. i was so stressed all day and i was thinking about whether to go or not, but then i still decided that i had to go, that all of a sudden there would be no way, there would be no possibility. at the examination, marina was told that she would give birth to a boy in four months. to return to kherson oblast, like the russian... the military had already partially captured it, it was heaven, not far from their home, they understood that the russian military was capturing havron oblast, we, when we already heard explosions and shelling near us, we began to hide in the fire, and there was a lot of shelling, very close, and we spent the night there, slept, we
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were there in our clothes and arranged the room there as best we could, we put chairs there, but of course that's all was very scary, plus not understanding what is happening, or to hope for anything at all, or is this the end, we will die here. for several weeks , daria's family managed to remain unnoticed. the crypt where they hid was a little way from the street. but one of the neighbors said that people live there, and you should also go to them, to them to check the russian military interrogated the family, checked the documents and... the phone and left, this was only the beginning, after that they visited daria's home every day, sat in the house, ate, tried to have conversations, left closer to the evening, and in the morning... again were returning, one day the military forced daria's father to give up his car, painted it with their symbols. the next
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episode that happened was that they also came in the evening and said that we received a signal that someone called from your house and that he was fine their positions, or they were very heavily covered and as if someone surrendered, well of course we didn't call anyone, because we didn't have a communication link. just elementary, well, but they insisted on it very much and said that the leadership gave us an order to carry out a sweep, that is, to shoot and destroy those who did it. among the soldiers there was one who called himself a commander. he took daria, put her next to him in a separate room as a hostage and began to call each of her family members one by one for questioning. he questioned for some time, and at some point he said that to me it's not boring. you don't confess and no one says anything and stand still everyone and i 'll shoot you now with one bullet, stand still so it's cheaper and faster and i also asked
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if you want it to happen inside the house or outside, eh , maybe he says, maybe you don't want the walls of your house to get dirty, and in the end he shot the ceiling, said it was a warning, and if it happens again, then... well, he won't be with us anymore to talk, and he left, said that i will return in the morning, if there is another order from the management, then i can morning to come back and do what i promised you, well of course we stayed up all night, it was a huge stress for us, and well it was just a shock situation, but the next day he came back er... er took our phones and shows my phone, he says whose phone is it, well , i say mine, he says: get ready, you will go to
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the interrogation now, and i ask if i should go alone or all of us, if the interrogation will be here or somewhere, he says: no , you will go alone, the interrogation will not be here, on our territory, the soldier put daria in her father's stolen car. pulled put a cap on my eyes and took me to the abandoned house of the neighbors, he took me by the hand, took me to the second floor of the house, put me on the bed, ah, and says: undress, uh, well, i understood what it was all about, and i say that, are you going to ask me something about the phone, he... says that i am not interested in your phone, but, well, actually, well, you understand what was going on, it
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was not an interrogation, it was a rape , i didn't want to resist, well, i didn't want to, of course, i wanted to, but i understood that if i were to cry or fight back somehow. then he can to get angry and it could end worse, and well , i kind of came to terms with it, if psychologically, you know, if i left the body conditionally, waited until it all happened and returned to the body, the scariest moment was probably not the one when he brought me to this house. when i saw my parents, in what condition they were, they were just barely alive, all fucking, barely standing on their feet, but of course i didn't say anything to them, i said that
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we just talked, he asked me a few questions about the phone , i answered, and well, like, everything is fine, well, it was difficult for me myself, that i understood that i could not share with anyone, and well, it was very difficult, the next day, a russian soldier returned to daria's home, well, from... the same way i returned later , said that everything is fine, and consoled my parents, i just understood that if these deportations of mine continue for some time, well, i just can't stand it anymore, well, it was very difficult, from the first days of the occupation by the russian military. began to establish their own rules in the village of maryna, relocated all the locals to one part of the village and regularly came to them with inspections, well... when they
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came, they were called to our house from the cellar, they told me to let the girls, like me, but my sister was still there, the girl is smaller, said , so that people like us don't go there less, so that we are seen less, that there are such military men who, well, probably, who hang around there, marina does not remember the exact day on which it happened, they are with their family the neighbors were hiding in the cellar when suddenly they heard shots. russian military found in the house local awards for participation in hostilities. they start shouting there, they start shooting, they shot, i don't know, everywhere, on the walls, on the ground, in the air. then they told everyone to get out of
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the crypt, well, they only came out to... the scariest thing was when one soldier approached the crypt and started shooting into the crypt, and the bullets started hitting the petals, then i remember how everyone became silent , i thought that that was all, that there was no one there anymore, that they were all shot, so then they were worried about my mother, then we hear that they said that... well, we let's go, dude, well, we'll come, what we didn't talk about with you, for a while everyone exhaled, when two other soldiers came to the house, one of them, as marina remembers, was drunk, they continued to deal with the one to whom belong to the awards, mocked the men, shot at the windows of the house where the rest were hiding, then we hear that someone is walking, walking, this
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drunk military man came in with... well, he comes in and asks , like, who is here, how old was she there, well i, there was my mother, my sister, they asked the girls, and there was a girl there too, 13 years old, i called my mother to another room, he quickly let my mother go, then called me, well, later. raped me, he threatened here? yes, he threatened me, said that if i resisted, he would arrest me or, well , he threatened me with his fists, but did he see that you were pregnant? well, i
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was five months old then, he could not see very well. i told him that i'm profitable, that i don't want anything, eh, he says, like, what's wrong with you, like, if you don't want to be with me, then i 'll call 20 people over there right now, you'll be with him one by one, type, so choose either with me or with them, i still remember this afterburn, it was very smelly, i tried to push him away, but he wanted to be... and drunk, but he was stronger than him. at that time, maryna's mother saw that the girl and the soldier who took her with him to another room had disappeared. she told his comrade in arms about it. these soldiers called themselves snipers and were based in the building opposite. and then he also tried to undress me there , he also wanted to continue once more.
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