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the deadline for conscripts to update their data is coming to an end, expected under snaps and tsk queues, we will show live what the situation is in lviv, rivne and chernihiv, and we will also ask a lawyer about the main problems that citizens are already facing. will the deadline be extended? updating data, what is considered an update and will those who do not have time to update their data due to queues pay fines? if you are in military service, write in the comments whether you updated your data, how you did it and how long it took? this is svoboda ranok, my name is kateryna nekrecha and we are starting. the last opportunity for conscripts. the data update period, which began on may 18, is coming to an end. and it caused. there is a certain

excitement in many regions, there are queues to the territorial centers of assembly and centers for the provision of administrative services, according to the initial law on mobilization, men aged 18 to 60 must update their data by july 16. in the poltava region, as reported by the public, about 800 men gather in the queues for the emergency every day, and this number began to increase closer to the end of the renewal period. air alarms or system failures complicate and delay the process. according to the deputy mayor of poltava olga velichko, men ignore the possibility to update their data online. for this purpose, the ministry of defense developed and launched a mobile phone the reserve plus application became available at the same time as the new mobilization law came into force, and since may 18 , more than 2 million men have already updated their data online, according to the ministry of defense. it was not without accusations, but in the lviv region one of the local tsc. telegram channels were accused

of artificially delaying queues. it is about the city of przemyśljane. the day before, a video of queues near the picking center appeared on social networks. and the author of the video accused the military tsk of allegedly artificially creating queues. przemyshlyansky bank. so people from 8 hours of waiting. ot. the atm works like nine people. the man is 80, and that means they will create an artificial queue in order not to collect documents. the lviv regional tsc rejected these accusations, they said that the queues are affected by regular power outages and a large influx of citizens, and they also reminded that everyone who does not have time to update their data by july 16 will receive a fine. zgamanets will have to pay from 17 to 25 thousand hryvnias.

in lviv, near tsnap, our correspondent halyna tereshchuk. galyu, congratulations, on the air. please tell me if there are any queues people say good morning, greetings to all viewers of radio svoboda. now we are near one of the snaps in lviv. and as you can see, the queue is quite long. there are more than 100 people on the list, people wait from 6 o'clock in the morning, say, but then come here. the situation, let's say, if, for example, you don't organize yourself very much near the tsc, then here near tsnapiv such self-organization reigns, because people themselves make lists, and even 10 minutes before the opening of the center for the provision of administrative services, they already made a roll call and checked everyone list and so on they will pass, but what is the problem and why are such queues formed, not everyone can pass, let's say, the reserve plus system, where the data is updated by tsnapi employees, does not work very well. and that affects someone who can

be here in the room for 3 minutes, someone can take about 30 minutes, because in those two months since you could update your data, there's not been a proper system to update that data . , it all worked improperly, like electronic queues, which radio liberty has repeatedly reported on, as well as system reserve plus, and this is the reason. another reason why the queues are so long, and you have to come a second and a third time, is that not so long ago there were significant reductions in service provision centers in lviv, and if, for example, they were to accept 14 employees, they can... be two or three in tsnapa, such a queue and such a situation, which is here now, where we are, is near each of the centers for the provision of administrative services in lviv, as well as near lviv in rudno, vynnyky and bryukhovych. after all, we can listen to what we want said men of pre-winter age, who now

hope to update their data. why are you standing in line on the second day? well, in the evening, why didn't you pass yesterday? didn't have time. have you tried online? because of the reserve++, of course, it worked, it didn’t work out for me, ugh, that is , i didn’t register, i didn’t register, that’s why i’m going physically, i’m already here without 27, but it’s early, and you came for the first time, and the first time, and the goal the main one, well, update the data, and also, how many people are in front of you, there is a queue of its own, there is a queue, there is a list, here everyone recorded is, self-service, self-organization, and how are you? one by one, well, i am the 15th, and there is a chance to pass today, and if earlier, say, 40-50 people applied to the service centers during the day, now such a list of military conscripts consists of 150 or more people, therefore , you can calculate for yourself,

police officers start work at 9 a.m., yesterday, let's say, they worked even at 8 p.m., but the city council informed us that there will be no significant changes to the work schedule until july 16. perhaps employees will work a little longer in the evening, this is the situation, this is the picture and this is the problem that men of winter age have today. halyna, thank you, thank you for including, halyna tereshchuk, radio liberty correspondent in lviv, showed what the queues are and what the people in these queues say. next, we will show what is happening in rivne. in the meantime, i ask our viewers to write in the comments what experience you have with updating data, whether you have already updated the data. how did you manage to do it, in what way through reserve plus, is it possible that you really came physically to csk or snap, tell me, write about your experience, in which place, this is really important information. so, volodymyr mykolaichuk, journalist of radio liberty, is following the situation in rivne. volodymyr, congratulations,

please tell us what the situation is like in rivne, are there queues when peak times are possible, and according to your observations, does everyone have time to update the data? good morning to all viewers, behind me you can see the actual excitement that is happening around the data update, this is the queue at the rivne tsnap, the central one, long before 9 in the morning, when it opens, people are queuing, well, around here calculated that several hundred people, talked to the employees of the national security service, they say that the last week, a huge excitement in the day, think about it, they can accept up to... 700 people, so that the queue moves a little and people come faster, update the data, they connected all operators to the system, that is , all operators are involved, if, for example, there are no people and customers who come for other services, then the operators accept a military obligation, this is done in

order to speed up, well, physically, they calculated that the central police station can receive 700 people in a row, i counted long before 9 o'clock in the morning, well, probably... maybe up to a thousand people who want to update data, and i observe such a situation, for example, and in lutsk, and in neighboring ternopil, where people queue up in the morning, because the excitement is extraordinary, we, i talked to several people, they say that they also had certain difficulties with updating the reserve plus application, sometimes they did not accept, then they did not throw out data , then they didn't pull up all the lists, that's why they actually stand here, in order to still have time to... the critical deadline to update the data. studio. thank you, thank you , volodymyr. i understand that the life hack is to really come, as before, take the queue, and then, of course, there are more chances to update this data in time. volodymyr mykolaichuk about the situation with updating data in the city of rivne. and we will show further on what

the situation is with queues in chernihiv. in the meantime , write about your experience in the comments. i can already see that men write that they quickly managed to update the data through reserve plus. share it maybe that if you managed to do everything so quickly, were your data up to date, for example, in tck? i am extending the deadline for updating data, there are no plans to extend the deadline for updating data for conscripts, said a member of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, people's deputy of ukraine fedir venislavskyi in a comment to ukrainian pravda. he added that earlier in the verkhovna rada , a draft law was registered on the extension of data update deadlines, however, in his opinion, i quote, this started to cool some citizens, they say, the men were in no hurry to update the data. venislavskyi called the registration of such a bill ill-advised. the deputy says

that the committee did not approve any... drafts, normative legal acts, or legislative acts on the extension of the deadline for updating data. to talk about july 17, when the 60-week period ends, that we will accept something, i think it is hardly realistic from the point of view of physical possibility, so i call on all citizens to join the processes of updating their personal account data. it is worth noting that the updated law on mobilization, which entered into force on may 18, provides in particular. the need to update military registration data for men of conscription age, a 60-week period has been set aside for this, which ends on july 16, data can be updated using the reserve+plus application at administrative service centers and territorial recruitment and social support centers. olena khomenko, a lawyer and managing partner of the aktom group bar association, joins our broadcast. welcome to our broadcast, thank you for joining. i congratulate you. oh, tell me, for yours information, and why does someone manage to update data in 3 minutes, even in snap,

a radio liberty correspondent in lviv just told about it, and for someone it takes half an hour to update data in the same snap, what is the difference? well, it is worth noting that , first of all, this is a crazy demand for updating the data, and the second point, after all, we do not exclude the technical possibility, as well as most of the information that is not pulled up about the fact that there is... the presence of conscripts on the register , we draw attention to the fact that those who are forced internally displaced persons or forcibly displaced persons usually have problems with the availability of all necessary information and provisions in open registers. andriy titok, the correspondent of radio svoboda in chernihiv, will join our broadcast now, and he will tell andriy what the situation is like near tsnap, and whether there are queues. welcome to our broadcast, please tell me what the situation is, please, welcome colleagues, i am now near

chernihiv snap, as you can see, there are no queues here , but there are people inside, why, because there is a recording system, that is, which one snap opens, it opens at 8:30 a.m. , there is a large queue of people who want to make an appointment, get an appointment ticket and... the data, tsnap administrators say that there is no appointment, remains in in the room only those who have coupons and this line diverges. actually, we have a queue, that is , the electronic queue in snap for updating data is scheduled until july 23. this was told to me by one of the tsnap employees literally before the broadcast. people continue come, sign up for data updates through snap. although snap advises to do this update from the reserve plus application and

they say that there is no difference in updating data through snap or through reserve++, and plus there is a story that the electronic system through which cnap enters data into this electronic register is a little off. as it was explained to me, that is , if earlier this process took 10-15 minutes. updating data through cnap, it sometimes takes half an hour, and it even happens up to an hour, and the administrator told me such a story, that he has cases, that he, while, while people, while he serves one person whose registry in tsnapa is suspended, he helps three or four people update their data, establish a reserve plus during this time, but in general, we have in chernihiv updated through chernihiv snap data as of now... 4,863 people, well , maybe a couple more, while we

are talking there, while i was preparing this information for the broadcast. andriy, thank you, thank you for the information, andriy titok, a correspondent of radio liberty, told about the situation with updating data in tsnapakh in chernihiv. and we return to the conversation. olena khomenko, a lawyer on our broadcast. elena, why is there a difference where to update military registration data in tsnap or in the reserve plus application. because there is a public report, it seems, and now our correspondent confirmed these words, as they say in snap, that there is no difference, either you come to us physically, or you do it in reserve plus, is there really no difference, for today. day is absolutely correct, because if we compare the month of may and june there, then at the beginning of the registration of the input updating the data of the national security service, they gave extracts from the register and from the register of conscripts, reservists and conscripts. to date, tsnaps, they issue a military registration document in electronic form, and indeed it is an analogue of registration in the reserve plus application.

olena, why not in the tcc, will the same effect be there if... a military serviceman comes to update his data at the tcc? well, it is worth noting the fact that in the very territorial centers of recruitment and social support we have to distinguish between updating data and receiving a deferral. if the military conscript has all the grounds for deferment, then in order to update the data, the territorial recruitment centers first accept applications for deferment, submit them for consideration by the commission, within seven days the commission makes a decision on the fact of granting or from. .. granting a deferment and already then updates the data, updates all barcodes and enters information, or into an existing military registration document, it can be either a temporary id card or a military card, or forms a completely new one military registration document. note that if a person previously did not have a military registration document, even if there are reasons for a postponement, after

receiving a postponement, a summons will be sent to the territorial recruitment and social support centers. of the military medical commission, and then all the data will be updated as much as possible and a military registration document will be issued, so in practice the difference is that we update in the territorial recruitment centers and in the tsnaps, it is a common opinion, olina’s father, because tsnaps, they pull up the information that is already available, and in practice we are faced with the fact that in tsnaps, in particular, in the oberig system , there is no information about the majority of conscripts, in particular, we see that in the very... in the very there , at the very end of the extract, and from the register, it is indicated that there is no information about the person’s stay in military uniform and contact the territorial recruitment and social support centers, i.e. first of all , you need to go to the tsnap, or to the reserve plus, and if there really is such a message, well then there is no way out, you have to go to the shopping center, and is it considered updating data in order not

to pay a fine and have time to do it by july 16, and the fact that a person has already registered in... reserve plus, but received, for example, such an announcement that for completeness of data , contact the tcc, here we have in practice inconsistency, because on the one hand and it has the obligation to update the data, so the data was updated with the help of the application that was proposed by the state, to date, if i am not consistent , then it is necessary to clarify all these questions with the tsc, quite often in practice there are moments when the information that is available in paper documents is military registration... in particular , we have such problems if a person was excluded from military registration in the 22nd year, that is, during the period of martial law , we understand that at that time, especially at the beginning of martial law, it was not quite the time for the digitization of all documents, and then, in fact, if information is displayed in the reserve plus or an extract from tsnap that

the information is incomplete, then military the obligee can oblige the tsc to scan in the format of correspondence with the tsc. documents and enter valid information into the safeguard register and thus finalize the process of updating their military registration data, i.e. who will receive a fine as of july 17, people who have registered because you enter the reserve plus, there are three requests: to authorize for using the bank-id system of the nbu, and the second is to confirm or clarify personal data, the data is a phone number, email and current address, and the third is there password. settings, that is, in fact, all the most important data about a person are there, but if there is a request to go to the shopping center, if there was no medical examination there, for example, and so on, there is absolutely no document and military registration, this person will receive a fine, or that's all right? let's hope that the person still does not receive a fine, since he fulfilled the requirements, the legislative

annex was established and the data was updated, that is, because as the legislation provides, so it is in fact. to date, the three categories that you are obliged to update: e-mail, place of registration, phone number, from the moment you install this application, it is these three positions that you actively confirm, do you see the possibility that when these fines start to be sent there and to such people that there will be some lawsuits, is it possible to somehow follow your arguments there to the tcc, for example, what steps can be taken, of course, there will be lawsuits, at first it will be a pre-trial settlement with us, in particular this... send an appeal to the territorial procurement centers regarding appeal yes or enter information to the fact of comparison of the actually existing military registration document and the document that has been updated yes or extract. from the reserve plus, and again, we already see an increase in the number of court proceedings, and even we see there a positive practice in favor of conscripts, of course, that each situation is individual,

we cannot say that clearly, because all fines are canceled, but again, each situation is individual, and everyone's circumstances are completely different, so the number of court cases processes, it is already increasing to the maximum, we must not forget that not only appeals are made to the courts in the courts, not only appeals are made to the extradition. and referral, but also appeal against the refusal to provide a line from the draft. and there is a question about the fact that if the reserve plus says that the data is not enough, it seems that this was also the case in the video that we showed, the man told about it, then should he go, does it make sense to go, for example, to tsnap, maybe tsnap has more information than the rezerv+ application, as practice shows, in them the information is absolutely identical, if the application does not show that there is from... the information will be similar, for example, if you contact only territorial picking centers. and why these data may not be

enough, in fact, they cannot confirm the information that was reflected in them earlier, there are problems with the fact that they are excluded from military registration, or there were any health problems, or some family the reasons that confirmed the granting of a postponement, well, these two key ones moments, i.e. human resource from. the essence of technical support, because everyone is just trying to adjust to living in the conditions of martial law, it is clear that this is the first time for everyone and also the first time for the territorial recruitment centers that such an amount of information is held by the accounting men and the carrying out of all the necessary, so to speak, manipulations with the management of records in the territorial centers of staffing and social support on the edge of action because on the edge of hostilities. it happens that when updating data... plus, for example, there is a sign that a person is wanted, and this sounds scary, or is it always really something scary and there is already some kind of case against this person, most often, what are the reasons for this?

it is worth understanding that this is not a criminal search, i.e. when you are wanted in the framework of a criminal case, this is a prerequisite for us to submit you under the category of armor or talisman search, we have sent you several summonses and failure to appear on these summonses, that is, a territorial one. recruitment and social support centers are directed to the address of actual stay or the place of registration, i.e., at the last known address of the conscript , summonses are sent to you, if in the event of your non-appearance or failure to receive these summonses, then the territorial recruitment centers transfer the information to the police department and the police department itself submits you to the wanted list, in such in the event that such history is discovered and reflected in the plus reserve, it is worth contacting the territorial centers of the complexes again. and clarify your data. as far as i understand, i have read this, which is possible, even before full-scale war, such subpoenas were sent, and if a person ignored them or did not

receive them, then even then, he can also now receive this wanted status. we do not forget everything that concerns the start of martial law, namely , that before the start of martial law , the legislation in force, cabinet resolution 1487, already regulated the duty of every citizen, annually. every five years to update their military registration data , including passing the military medical commission, so in case if everyone complied with the requirements of the law, then in principle we would not have such disturbances, well, here we have just brought you to the question that i also have from our viewers, and people who do not have a military registration document, but only have registration certificate, it is enough for them to update their data in reserve plus or in tsnapa, or is it guaranteed that they need to contact the shopping center? let's not forget that after july 16, actually july 17, we have two important, two important points: updating data and having

a military registration document with you. to of military registration documents we have as of today, these are temporary certificates, military tickets and certificates of registration in the prison camp. today, according to the age , a conscript can have a certificate of registration at the conscription station or a registration certificate under the age of 20. if a person has reached the limit of 20 25 5 years, then he cannot have a registration certificate in his hands, he must have one of the military registration documents, or a military card, or a temporary certificate, or in the absence of any document, we understand that in the current case, if a person appears at the territorial recruitment and social support centers , he will receive a new military registration document already within the framework of the 560th resolution. elena, there is a question in the chat under... our broadcast, and what to do if it is not possible to open a reserve plus 10 years abroad, that is , there is no bank id, what are the options? do not forget

that we are contacting diplomatic consular offices. institutions with applications, that is, we register for the reception in the same way as we actually do the territory of ukraine in tsnapy, abroad at a diplomatic consular institution, we register for reception, submit information, information about your actual stay abroad, if you have all the grounds for a postponement, in parallel we submit documents to record the grounds for the postponement, but do not forget that within the framework of the current legislation, diplomatic consular institutions accept applications for placement on a temporary basis. account in the event that during your stay on the territory of ukraine and during your departure to your permanent place of residence abroad, you were removed from the military registration just to go abroad. if you left during the period of martial law, you actually submit documents to renew and accept you for temporary consular registration. olena, there are people who do not want to go to the tsc, because they believe that during the data update there, they will definitely

be quickly taken to the front... they are being mobilized, can they serve a summons when the person came only to update the data? let's not forget that it was approved for the first time in the period of mobilization and general martial law in our country a clear algorithm for holding a deferment, if the conscript has all the grounds for receiving a deferment, first we submit documents for obtaining a deferment, all the necessary documents within the framework of the 560th resolution together with an application, a check... we have seven days to consider and make a decision commission and in the future, if necessary, we pass the military medical commission and understand that we do not receive any military summons if the conscript has no reason for postponement, we do not forget, again, about the algorithm for passing the military medical commission, about advance preparation, in particular the collection of all medical documents, in fact, let's not forget that on the first day of your application to the tcc, no one has the right to immediately

refer you to the military medical commission itself. to begin, you should receive a summons to pass the military medical commission the next day, pass it in a calm format, do not forget to remind about and give all medical conclusions and conclusions on the fact, on the fact of existing medical health problems, and medical fixation for successfully passing the military medical commission and achieving a health result that corresponds to the actual state of health, in particular, it is either full fitness, or fitness for the tcc and logistics services and... elena, if documents are checked on the street at the military obligee, his data has not yet been updated, but as of july 16 inclusive, there are a lot of cases when a person is immediately taken to the tcc and literally the next day he is already at the landfill, passes the vlk very quickly, quite a few such stories are the same, here a person who was stopped on the street, he has the right to say there that he is going to the tcc, there, for example, tomorrow, whether he is going there now, or

to tsnap. is it really possible to deal quickly with those who were taken by the hand on the street and in this way according to the law? let's not forget that actually, during interactions, both with representatives of the tsc and with representatives of the police, the conscript first checks the presence of the necessary documents that confirm the authority of both the police representative and the representative of the tsc, that is, let's not forget, we distinguish for representatives of the tcc - this is a service card, extracts from the orders of the commandant... of the military command, extracts from the orders of the head of the tck, where it is clearly defined that this military serviceman, he belongs to the alert group system, which concerns police officers, these are service cards, a body camera, a special token. first, we check the appropriateness of the powers of these representatives of state authorities, and only after that we present and show our documents, as military records, as well as documents that...