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greetings, this is the svoboda ranok project, i am oleg galiv, and we are starting, today we will discuss several important topics at once. ex-head of the supreme court vsevolod knyaz was discovered on zakarpattia in solotveniy, 1 km from the border with romania, that vsevolod knyazum was a volkswagen car with local registration in the passenger seat, and information about his stay in zakarpattia was transferred to the tsk and the police, reports babel. according to their reports, unnamed sources in the law enforcement agencies confirmed this information, but the interlocutors of the publication deny the data that there was a detention. in a comment to babel, the princes said that he would continue his vacation in... transcarpathia,

i remind you, the vsevolot of the princes lost his post head of the supreme court after the arrest of nabu in connection with receiving a bribe of 2.7 million dollars in may 2023, and recently the court released him on bail of 18 million uah. but the former co-owner of privatbank, gennady bogolyubo, probably crossed the border illegally and left ukraine using someone else's passport. the state bureau of investigation notified him of suspicion under the article of illegal crossing the border and illegal possession of a passport. according to. bogolyubo, accompanied by his close relative, left on june 24, 2024, then to kyiv helm, although according to ukrainian databases, he did not cross the border. because of this , the head of one of the groups of inspectors of the border service department of yagodin was detained. the court sent him to custody. the sbi also reported that the detained border guard handed over the train passenger's documents to his subordinate and assured that he had already personally checked the compartment where bogolyubov and his were. relative.

in an interview with ukrainian pravda, gennadiy bogolyubov himself said that after the announcement of suspicion in absentia by the sbi, he did not know whether he would return to ukraine. according to him, before that he planned to return in a few weeks and added that he will ask for political asylum abroad, because he does not plan to ask for political asylum abroad. well, in fact, the departure of mr. bogolyubo caused an ambiguous reaction in the ukrainian society, in the comments they started to write a lot about how rich people can leave, poor people. no, well, the traditional rhetoric appears in the comments like this, we will find out the details of that departure with our guest, this is andriy demchenko, the spokesman of the state border service of ukraine. mr. andrii, i congratulate you. congratulations. thank you for joining. please, first of all, tell me the details of the incident, from what you know, regarding vsevolod knyaz, who, according to the media, was seen 1 km from the border with romania in transcarpathia, how it was, he was detained, he was not detained, where he might have been going, what is known as of now? actually, one must... understand

that the state border service is not authorized to disclose information about third parties, but as far as the border is concerned, as you know, there is the border regime, there is legislation that regulates the stay at the border, and actually the border guards also set up control posts within the borders of the border strip in order to check persons moving along the border. to check the purpose of the trip, to check the documents that people have, and actually, if there are any prerequisites, for example, to attempts to cross the border illegally, then such persons are detained, in other cases, persons may be held administratively liable, or other actions of our military personnel relatively those persons who cannot confirm the purpose of their stay on the border and proper. in

such a case, then they are escorted outside the border strip. as for knyazev, he confirmed the purpose of his stay, can you tell me about that? well, one more time. i say that we do not have the right to disclose information about third parties, including about this person you are interested in, but i would like to note that our actions, the actions of the border service inspectors, who carry out control services, are exclusively within the limits of the current regulations legislation, and for the purpose establishing the purpose of a person's stay at the border, or observing the border regime, as is known, within the limits of the border strip, persons staying there must also have a permit from the state border protection body, i would like to remind you that the border strip - this is the width of the area 5 km along the state border line, so i will note once again that our

inspectors check all persons who move to the border areas, and for this purpose checkpoints are set up for... in order to carry out such check in the case of znadiy bogolyub , a border guard also appears, in fact, the law enforcement officers are already investigating this incident, how did the bogolyubs cross the border, in the state border service, in fact, they will strengthen some internal work with employees to avoid such situations that occurred, internal control, will it be possible to review work protocols, it is clear that the investigation must give its conclusion, after the court , until there is a court decision and there is no verdict, we cannot say that someone there is guilty or not guilty in a certain story, but after all... this incident somehow caused some internal changes in the work of the border guards, perhaps strengthening the internal border, internal control over the work of the border guards, well , the state bureau of investigation reported that i boguliubov and the border guard, who is suspected and

who detained at the moment, and the state border service, for its part , is assisting the investigation as much as possible in order to establish... all the circumstances, because we do not tolerate illegal actions of our servicemen, including before that, and now actively, work is constantly being carried out to expose military personnel who engage in some illegal actions, so of course, in this case, conclusions will also be drawn in order to prevent any illegal actions in the future... but the evaluation of the actions of our military serviceman must be established by the investigation and the court will pass a sentence in the future, as far as he was involved in the illegal movement of this person across the border. thank you,

mr. andriy, for enabling, andriy demchenko, spokesperson of the state border service of ukraine, the guest of our broadcast, we talked about two cases, which are now being actively discussed in the media, regarding crossing the border and what was actually found in the border zone. of the supreme court of ukraine. in the comments under our broadcast , write your thoughts and impressions about what you heard and what you saw. in fact, we try to bring up all the topics you discuss in our broadcasts in order to spread the dots of hope. this is important, because very often the information that appears on the network either has no confirmation, or the information is based on is based on assumptions, here on rfe/rl's airwaves, we try to approach it correctly in order to understand... what actually happened, what impact it might have and how to react to it. well, after the case of forgery of documents for going abroad and six months of hiding, the zsu left. moreover, he became the commander of an infantry brigade. this is about ex-prosecutor rostseslav ilnytskyi, who was found the day before in the attic

of his mother-in-law's house. they detained the man almost by accident, because they came to the lviv lawyer bohdana moskva, who was searched are suspected of organizing a scheme for people who evade mobilization, which operated on the territory of lviv. ivano-frankivsk oblast, the former prosecutor himself has been wanted since december last year. the investigation suspects him of forging documents. according to the sources of the ukrainian truth publication, the ex-prosecutor was assigned to one of the infantry brigades as an infantry platoon commander. by the way, kulnytskyi received the summons according to reports from the media even before the wanted notice. he became known throughout the country after a noisy two-day wedding, which he had with an ex-employee lviv dbr roksulana moskva in a five-star complex near lviv. at the celebration, there was a cake for 1000 uah, 300 guests and famous artists. the publication of the video of the chic wedding was made by his bride, and the investigation was published by lvivmedia. ilnytskyi's mobilization was also confirmed by the lviv tsk sp, where it was noted that he was mobilized into one of the brigades, which , i quote: needs officer personnel - writes lvivmedia. the prosecutor general's office

responded to our inquiry that ilnytskyi was detained under article 358 of the criminal code of ukraine, this falsification of documents, and this is not a serious crime. well, we will talk about this topic. to discuss now, and before the broadcast, the editorial staff of radio liberty also received a response from the national police of ukraine, where they informed us that, given the fact that the crime of the person involved is not serious, the question of stopping this... criminal proceedings is currently being resolved on the basis of paragraph four of the first part of the first article of article 280 of the criminal procedure code of ukraine due to objective circumstances that prevent further investigation in the conditions martial law, this is the answer we received from the national police, and yevhen filipets, a lawyer in the field of military justice, is already in touch with us, yevhen, congratulations, good morning, we are actually scaling this case in the context of the whole country, what principle is the distribution of mobiliso in general. to the army, if a person decides to mobilize on his own, how does it work, he comes, he

is assigned to the part where he actually wants to go, or they still look at what the rank is, if it was a completed military service department, or what are the possibilities of this person, that is how this distribution takes place, well, in fact , this question is relevant now, because, by the way , the number of people has increased so much, maybe it is connected with july 16, but it is not about the case that you said, in general , that people are actually looking for military units. where they will undergo military service independently, some according to the principle of friends, acquaintances there who are already serving and can give some primary information there, some under other circumstances, but actually it is necessary to be divided into two parts, that is, first we are talking about the so-called recruiting itself, that is, the independent search for a military unit, the arrival already with a relationship from this military unit and mobilization there, looking ahead, i will say, even more, the provision about the provision that regulates this issue on today gives an opportunity. that person will have another two months to settle his family, current, business issues

and mobilize in the armed forces of ukraine. another variant of mobilization is mobilization actually through the tcktsp, i.e. in the order determined by passing specific procedures, i.e. passing the vlk, after being directed by command to the military unit where there is a need and there is a corresponding task set before the tsp, i.e. by command. actually, this issue is settled today and the fact that the replacement of positions takes place in this way according to experience, according to the availability of the relevant military accounting specialty, according to the presence of combat experience and so on, it all boils down to the corresponding clause of the 84th order of passing of military service by citizens, in fact, there is also mention of retraining for filling positions, which are currently most relevant there during martial law with mandatory training of such... people, that is, in summary, there are two options, either voluntarily, i.e. within the scope of recruiting from the search for a local unit, or through the actual

general mobilization procedure. let's look specifically at this case, because we started with it, if a person was detained on suspicion of forging documents, as in the case of this ex-prosecutor, is this an obstacle or not for appointing him to an officer's position, for example, how does it work today in the army? well, it is necessary to proceed from general legal principles, that is, the detention of a person is not yet a confession. a person is in the appropriate order guilty, guilty of committing the corresponding criminal offense, that is why we actually have a presumption that today, until all the facts have been proven by the court, it is impossible to consider such a person, such a person, as having committed the corresponding crime, therefore obstacles for mobilization of such a person, as in the mobilization law on mobilization, mobilization training, and the law on military duty and military service does not exist today, i will say more that for may there is information in the public space, more than 11 thousand people were mobilized in this way to the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine, who were on stage, i.e. in the status

of suspects, or already in the status of the accused, when the materials were in court. therefore, this practice actually exists today, and it is certain that it is one of the tools of tactical protection of providing legal assistance to the client within the framework criminal proceedings. and this can be a reason, let's say, an opportunity to avoid responsibility for that evil. in which one or another person is accused, namely the mobilization category, the category of avoiding responsibility, this is not our concern, because everything is in accordance with the current legislation, but i will say, i will say this up front, noting that in parallel with all this, there is a category such as the term statute of limitations, respectively, for a specific committed crime, criminal offense and it is determined by the severity of such a commission, respectively, if it not a felony, it's within five. years beyond this time limit, such a case is subject to closure accordingly, so the loopholes are actually there in

order for it to work in the event of something, a mobilization process, it is part of the tactics of protection of the lawyer-advocate environment when providing legal assistance to a client within the framework of criminal proceedings. yevgeny, you were also mobilized, here is an interesting question: there is really a shortage of officer positions in the army today, and is there any risk in being appointed to an officer position? as for example there about the infantry, which we talked about, when it is a person without significant experience of military service, well , of course, there is a military department, which one or another military officer has passed for a certain period, but that does not mean. that this person has professional training and he can professionally carry out his duties that will be assigned to him in this or that position, or is it really easy to get there if you have a rank due to the great lack of officer positions? very, very relatively, because when you go through military service, you don't see what happens there on the general background, see within the limits of my brigade, that is, i can clearly

confirm that the actual officer positions must be occupied by professionals, if we are talking about the platoon commander of the company commander, this is a difficult combat job, this is moral and psychological work, this it is a very difficult job, which actually requires combat experience, training, leadership qualities, character, and so on. if we are talking about more staff positions of officers, for example, if you are asking me about my service, then i actually served in the position of a justice officer, like a lawyer, well, she needs appropriate competences in the field of military justice, in order to provide appropriately qualified expertise there. whether to military personnel or commanders or command within the brigade, and whether there is such a shortage, well, it is obvious that there is a shortage today, that is, there is a request and it is replenished, but from my experience and from the experience of those guys who served in the military, i will say specifically , that there should be a professional in every position, and in the infantry platoon it is also, this is the primary breakdown, and the commander of the infantry platoon, this junior

a lieutenant or a lieutenant, this is a guy on whom a lot of things hang and a lot of human things hang on him, it is not for you and me to evaluate the professionalism or unprofessionalism of certain people, if we are talking specifically, but in the general picture, if for example they appoint for an officer-level position there , a person who is not so professional, what risks could this pose for the same company, i don't know for the same battalion, and for the armed forces in general? well, of course, if you deviate from the norms of the current legislation, deviate from the norms there, which are provided for by the statutes of the internal service, the statutes, respectively, in the armed forces, which respectively provide for subordination, provide for a step-by-step algorithm of actions in this or that situation, therefore the actual appointment to positions of persons who do not have this experience, well, this is a problematic issue, but it is obvious that such persons must also undergo a certain training, and they must undergo a certain training, a certain, as they say in the army , a rough-and-tumble, and then actually start performing the relevant tasks, including combat tasks. yevgeny, he is actually like that now

a period when there is not much time left before the deadline for updating data for military personnel. for conscripts in ukraine, people come en masse to be arrested, we talked about it on our broadcasts the day before, this is in particular rivne, this is in particular lviv, where huge queues are formed, as you think, as you judge from what you can see , whether military servicemen will still have time to update their data, those who want to do it before the period when it will be impossible to do so, or after all this will also be a problem, because people are just now beginning to understand that if they do not do this, they will at least be fined. in fact, yes, in fact , long queues have formed, people are now facing certain misunderstandings, for example, the interpretation of the same reserve plus, some thought that i was simply unpopulated, this is enough, but that people are not on the military register and this entails all the same the need to go to the tcc, that is, in my opinion, this update of data is of no use here, because it will be necessary anyway register and follow the rules of military registration so as not to be fined.

actually, these queues are now formed under snapa, these, that, that conceptually. well , it is certain that in the coming days the issue of extending this term should be resolved, i think that it would be very relevant to return to this issue of extending the term, update it there or clarify the data, because in general, in general, if you pay attention to the general process, then in principle, since may 18, there were already grounds for detaining persons there and delivering them to the tsk, so that there as a consequence after july 16, after this line was raised, therefore, in fact, since may 18 , persons for... documents are presented to the state central committee, and further the procedure of the vlk of production of documents and mobilization or postponement takes place if there are such grounds. therefore, to actually say that the termination for another month or two or three will somehow radically affect this process of updating data, well, i would not say so, if a large part has already updated the data, then they will receive summonses, so what about those people , who haven't had time to do it yet, that's it

a little bit problematic question, and there is also a different interpretation of this norm, this norm and whether? will there be a prospect of bringing such persons to justice and whether there is a prospect of legal protection in such a case, i think there is, and we are already dealing with it in detail, i think there are already at least two clues to this. i have one more question, it will relate to the topic with which we started our broadcast, this is the topic of crossing the border, in particular, we talked in a slightly different way about how well-known people in ukraine cross this border, in particular, when we are talking about mr. bogolyubov, then he is suspected of having crossed the border illegally using a different passport, but next to that, the state border service... every day publishes new videos of ukrainians of military age trying to cross the border, for example, odesa oblast, the western regions of ukraine bordering european countries, now you, as a lawyer , have received appeals from those who may have been detained, for example, at the border there or in front of the border, for trying to cross this border illegally. such people apply to lawyers for protection, so that

after they were detained, they would somehow help them, i don't know, well, not to avoid responsibility, at least help them accept this responsibility properly? in my private practice, we do not take these cases, but such requests are received, they are of such a nature that a person for attempting to cross the illegal border was... after that taken to a shopping center, literally there a short period of time lasts until such a person is mobilized, but there are such cases, and they are quite frequent, and people somewhere, maybe they are expressing their opinions with complaints, because somewhere they had certain agreements there, but it didn’t work out for them, roughly speaking, so they are addressing it, we don’t take it into our work, because there is absolutely no protection here to provide adequate protection to such a person there is no possibility, first of all, these are other regions, purely physically, territorially, and secondly... actually, well, at the end of the day, there must be some kind of order, because attempts to cross the border illegally, this is also if history is not good, but again, there are requests

from clients for consultations, which are real grounds are legal for crossing the border, i.e. this order of 1995 today allows a large number of people to go abroad, so actually people who have documents and grounds want to legalize it and go abroad, and there are such people, and such people are leaving , and that's all within limits. of the current legislation, because the law, this procedure determines the actual possibilities of departure whether accompanied by disabled persons or for other reasons, which are determined by the procedure itself. but after the data update deadline expires on july 16, will there be any? some additional needs at the border for those men conscripted who want to cross the border, something is already known about it, maybe some additional documents will be required for an official statement from the state border service, which will settle this issue from the point of view. of the border by men from 18 to 6 years old with military registration documents, that is, this whole matter that was before with drivers of vehicles, with persons who

accompany disabled people, they will become irrelevant from july 16, that is, such men will have to have a military registration document , and here as a small nuance, but there is such a 559 resolution of the cabinet of ministers, paragraph nine says that an electronic military registration document is equal to a paper one, that is, in fact, due to the reserve plus, a person can generate his electronic military registration document and in my opinion, it should be enough to cross the state border, or in general for movement on the street, to present it to the employees of the tcc tsp, but already today we see cases that such a document is not important for them, i mean for the tcksp on the street. when you communicate with by law enforcement officers, for example, in the context of the cases that you conduct, have new schemes of illegal, illegal border crossing appeared, taking into account the fact that the old ones have already been discovered, some loopholes, those that were possible to cross the border, their successfully removed, appears? are there new schemes that ukrainian men come up with, or those who organize these schemes? well, in fact, you can listen to these schemes

a lot, i think that even at the household level you can listen to them a lot, in fact, i can honestly say that in our practice we we practically do not have these consultations, we do not have the protection of people who actually create the conditions for crossing, create for themselves the conditions for crossing the illegal illegal crossing of the border, so i will actually comment something... about their actions there, we do not have such an opportunity yet, and thank god that it is, but whether there are any options there, how people do this and that, well, believe me, here in a day you can listen to many combinations in the lawyer's practice, both on foot, and on a bicycle, and by water, and who knows how. evgeny, and in conclusion, i will have one more thing question, it constantly bothers the viewers who write about it in the comments, we can read about it in social networks, then... still , for example, a trip to the central military district in order to update documents somehow protects the military serviceman from that he will not receive a summons, because not

everyone fully understands, if i go to snap and update the documents, after that i have a risk of getting a bandage or not, let's clarify this point, what is it data update and what can happen afterwards, let me very briefly focus right away on what everyone needs to hear, now it's important to have a military... a military document and update the data, these two points they give to fulfill the rules of military registration: to have a military document and update the data. the actual updating of data without a military ticket, unfortunately, has the following consequences: movement on the street is one of the grounds for detaining a person upon delivery to the nearest tcc. in general , updating data whether through reserve++ or through snam, it is, as already stated, equal to all after receiving the relevant summons on july 16 certain clarification of data. what can this data refinement be? well, most likely it's an afterthought. this will be followed by further vlk, and further questions will be raised, the question will be raised about mobilization or the registration of a postponement for such a person, so the suspension that will arrive after

the data is updated is... it seems that everyone is already expecting it after july 16, in principle, for for those persons who will update the data, this is a summons, for those who do not update the data, this is a fine for not updating the data and a summons that must ensure the appearance of such a person at the tcc. thank you very much, evgeny, for joining, yevhen filipets, a lawyer in the field of military justice, a guest of the svobody ranok broadcast, analyzed the topics that we are discussing on the air today. write your impressions of in the comments. seen and heard, this is important, in this way we can respond to how you feel about certain topics, and we have the opportunity to actually communicate with you, well , let's continue to the topic of nato, new ones, and ukraine's capabilities to further defend ourselves, we continue work in washington, there will be, in particular, a decision on the f-16 very soon, we are increasing the number of aircraft available ukraine. norway announces its intention to transfer six fighter jets to it, the first of which

will be delivered this year. and the leadership of the usa, denmark, and the netherlands confirms their intention to send their first f-16s to ukraine during the summer. neither the exact number nor more specific terms, which have already shifted, are not reported. the russians and putin are also interested in when the f-16s will be delivered, so for security reasons we are not giving any specific dates, but of course we are working hard to make sure these f-16s are delivered as soon as possible. the netherlands, where the government recently changed, and an additional 300 million euros are allocated for armaments for... ukrainian f-16s, namely ammunition for them. the kingdom's authorities say this is a signal to moscow that the allies will not stop support, because it is in their own interests. are the proposed packages enough for ukraine to win, according to the vision of nato members? the us secretary of state thinks so. in my estimation, at least, success is a strong independent ukraine, increasingly integrated into atlantic institutions such as the eu and nato, and able to stand. on

legs in military, economic, democratic terms. allies undertake a collective obligation to provide assistance. in 2025, together, each, depending on their gdp, will allocate 40 billion euros to ukraine. they are also creating a structure that will coordinate the provision of weapons and the organization of training of ukrainian forces by the alliance countries. the summit also responds to ukraine's desire to become part of nato. membership is currently not expected. offer, when this will happen is also unknown, and the wording of vilnius, when the allies agree and the conditions are fulfilled, is repeated and in the declaration in washington. however, this phrase is accompanied by several others: the future of ukraine in nato, and its euro-atlantic path is called irreversible. ukraine is praised for its reforms and is expected to continue, associating future membership with this, but many believe that it depends primarily on the end of the war and its outcome. all allies agree that

ukraine will become a member, but it is too early to say when exactly this will happen. ukraine and i are moving ever closer to nato membership and we are taking specific actions for this. today will be the last day of the summit the ukraine-nato council, as well as a joint session of countries that have signed security agreements with ukraine. zoriana stepanenko, marek hajdukh, radio svoboda from washington. well, at this moment , vitaly portnikov, a journalist, publicist and columnist of radio svoboda, joins the broadcast of svoboda ranok. my greetings to you. congratulations. thank you for joining. mr. vitaly, ukraine's full membership in nato has become irreversible, this is essentially a short summary of the washington summit. for ukraine , this decision is historic, what do you think? well, it seems to me that virtually all recent summits nato talks about the irreversibility of ukrainian membership in nato. it will be historic for ukraine.

a decision was made on its euro-atlantic integration, and so far we are talking exclusively about declarative promises, which are not accompanied by any.