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are ready for elections in september 2023 . in september, the security service of ukraine informed her about the second suspicion. the law enforcement officers established that this traitor, on the instructions of curators from the kremlin, created the appearance of an election process in the kherson region and falsified the so-called plebiscite in favor of russian puppets. she also organized a process in which representatives of fake election commissions, accompanied by armed militants, carried out yard patrols. residents of the temporarily occupied districts of the kherson region and forced them at gunpoint machine to participate in voting. all this in order to later report on the camera with a smile about the high turnout and sky-high ratings. the political party united russia became the leader according to the voting results. now , with two suspicions, zakharova is preparing for the next elections, the presidential ones, which are to be held from march 15 to 17
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, 2024. perhaps, for their organization and conduct, this venal pike will receive a third suspicion, sit in prison on a comfortable bed and finally calm down for many years, let's hope. goes with the russian mandate from yevgenia romanivna rubin, united russia party , born in 1995. until february 24, she worked as a deputy director for administrative and technical issues, then at bc kherson bldg. yevgenia is known to the people of kherson as a fan. works of scriabin. during the election campaign in the fall of 2020 , with the participation of volodymyr salda, she revealed the morality of the image of the musician and held a concert in his memory. i am a fan of kuzma's work. we wanted to implement this idea probably four years ago and accordingly searched around the city where we could place this mural. when kherson was occupied rasists yevgenia exchanged scriabin's work for russian ditties. she sat down in the chair of the headmistress vidya. of land relations in
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the occupying ministry of agriculture and fisheries of the kherson region, after which she was promoted to become the director of the institute of animal husbandry askania nova. apparently, the occupiers really liked the work of this traitor, because later they included her in the list of candidates for deputies from the united russia party. after the semblance of the election, evgenia not only received a mandate, but became the head of the faction. as head of the united russia faction in the kherson region. as befits an important official, she created a telegram channel for herself, which currently has 31 subscribers, in which rubin glorifies the russian swamps, putin, tries to tell people that russia helps, liberates and saves, but for some reason no one understands or hears her, well, except for herself traitors like her. i really hope that our law enforcement agencies will soon clip the wings of this little angel. i congratulate you on one. one of the most significant
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holidays of our state, the day of the constitution of the russian federation. this is another traitor from mandated by kharitonov andrii mykolayovych , born in 1969 in the city of kherson. he is the former head of the watercraft section of the kherson shipbuilding plant. in 2015, he ran for the kherson city council from the our land party and was unable to realize his political ambitions, but now the occupiers who lured him helped. with a stick in the form of a mandate, he rushed to the council, but about everything in order. when kherson was captured, andriy kharitonov betrayed ukraine and was one of the first to rush to help the russians. they thanked him with the chair of the director of kherson sea ​​trade port. according to the information of our law enforcement agencies, it was kharitonov who ensured the transfer of military equipment and ammunition of the russian federation from the left bank to the right bank of the dnieper. kharitonov proved that he is an obedient dog, so he was made a deputy. of the fake
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kherson regional duma. with the support of the united russia party and our senator ihor yuriyevich kostyukevich, we do not forget him either, we thank him. kharitonov has already received suspicion from the sbu. his case is currently being considered by the kherson city court of the kherson region. the traitor faces up to 15 years prison or life imprisonment with confiscation of property. we very much hope that he will receive a severe punishment for his actions against ukraine. it was the program collaborators and i, olena kononenko. if you have information about the kremlin sellers, write to us at this email address or simply on facebook. together we will send all the traitors after the russian ship. see you in a week on espresso.
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glory to ukraine, dear tv viewers, on espresso tv channel, west studio program. we will analyze the most important events of this week, in particular, we will analyze putin's great kurultai vastani with the participation of representatives of turkey and china. and so on, and at the same time we will try to outline the parameters of the polish-ukrainian security agreement. our guests today are the iconic polish politician bohdan borusevych, as well as the famous political scientist who is in prague, oleksandr morozov. and now bohdan borusewicz, a legendary polish politician, marshal of the polish senate from 2005 to 2015, and now a senator, will work on the espresso tv channel. greetings, mrs. marshallka, v espresso studio. good day to you, good day. first of all, i would like to ask you how you assess the situation with the so-called security guarantees for ukraine. we understand that this is a very difficult matter, negotiations are ongoing between eu countries, nato members, and of course, a security agreement between poland and ukraine is currently on the table. actually, how
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do you see this structure? i am a supporter of political and military ties between ukraine and poland. and it's not just about deals, i think it's worth going further. of course, with the support of the americans, but we can to stabilize this part of europe if we act together here. we are not talking about the formula of this connection, but it should be a very close connection. then we will be able to stabilize this part of europe, because russia will continue to be a serious country, and russia has shown itself to be an aggressive, revisionist country with no sense of borders. so we have a common interest here. that is, i believe that these guarantees should ensure common interest. this is not a one-way guarantee, but also a guarantee from ukraine. for poland. that's how you need to think, that's how you need to do it analyze. but you also know that,
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no guarantees will help if ukraine does not protect itself. after all, there were guarantees not in the form of an agreement when ukraine gave up nuclear weapons. i remember how at that time the americans made sure that those nuclear weapons returned to russia, in general, how they worried that the suitcase would go somewhere and fall into the hands of terrorist groups, but what about guarantees for ukraine, it's just arms supplies, and i believe that it is necessary to go further, and poland should think, we should jointly think about some kind of alliance with the support of the americans, without such support we... will simply be thrown out of nato, and with support the americans will then be able to move to asia, because in the end it will be natural, and all politicians are talking about it, not only trump, but also biden is talking about it, that the american interests are primarily in asia at this moment,
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the problem of competition with china is not rivalry, no, but competition, serious competition, so if we went in that direction, everyone would be satisfied. here a lot will depend on the so-called political elites, we are talking about specific people in warsaw and kyiv. we had a few difficult months, and i did not fully understand what happened, it is about such a cooling of relations between president duda and president zelensky, it is about a meeting at the united nations in the united states. now it seems that the climate may have improved and there is a chance again to continue polish-ukrainian cooperation in the field of security. but i want to say that there is a certain strangeness between poland and ukraine. and in that question i noticed it. in poland, the prime minister and the government are in charge, not the president. the power is in the hands the prime minister, who has a level of power comparable to that of the chancellor. the president controls the sphere of security and the sphere of defense,
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and also has competence in the sphere of foreign policy. mostly in what appoints the proverb, and that's all. instead, all power over the army, also over the forces. pekas, that is, over the police, over the services is concentrated in the prime minister, this must be remembered when we talk here about president zelenskyi and president duda. yes, president zelensky has much more power here, in fact he has dictatorial power, but the president is in poland no. and what would it look like then? and why am i talking about this? because it's election time in poland and the president.
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the soviet coalition, of which i am a member, is the dominant party, and this is actually the power of the coalition, it must also be remembered that prime minister tusk must take into account the opinion of the coalition members. and the same with regard to what concerns ukraine. fortunately, we continue the policy that concerns ukraine, the policy that was started immediately, the policy of support, military and political. voiskova is what we handed over to ukraine more tanks than all of western europe combined. in fact, a huge number, about 500 tanks, more than 50 powerful and modern howitzers. 2,000 starlinks, over 500 power generators, and that's just
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to name a few. of course, the most important thing for ukraine is military aid and support, but also political aid, i.e. support for joining the eu. and we give full support here. and support for joining nato. for poland, joining nato was much easier than joining the european union. because joining nato is a political decision. the army should be led by a civilian. that army must be adapted, but there is a beginning of adaptation to nato standards, and it is possible to join. and joining the european union is the adaptation of the entire economy to the standards of the european union. these are negotiations that concern the transition period. and of course, the negotiations are related to the issue of grain. negotiations, negotiations. we, for example, when we had negotiations, provided for ourselves. a long period during which there was a ban on selling land to foreigners, if suddenly someone was afraid of it. grain, grain, sir
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marshalko. let's go back to the grain. and what do you want when it comes to grain? and what will happen to the european union market, which is open to ukraine, but there is still a separate position of polish farmers and the polish government. we must take this into account, because we must also take into account the interests of our own. citizens, agrarians are our citizens, and there will be a discussion, something will have to be done, how intense will this discussion be, mr. marshallka? no, the discussion should take into account the interests of both parties, and it is quite possible that it will be needed transition period, since we have to buy land, there was a ban in the eu on the movement of polish labor, that is, workers from poland, and it worked, those fears after a couple of years with...
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they are not there, and you know, if we monitor it and negotiate in time, then they will not return, but what is the situation now, there are no blockades at this moment, there are no blockades. and you also know that there is no grain in poland at the moment. this means, there is no grain, we are waiting for a new harvest, and it will come. then we will have grain, because now we have no grain in poland. we exported 14 million tons. i recently spoke with a colleague who specializes in this. and actually asked him: he says: there is no grain in poland, we lack grain. i say, let's buy in ukraine. he answers that there is none in ukraine either, because ukraine exported 24 million tons. fortunately, there will be
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a harvest in the near future, but it is time to realize that if a problem arises, it must be solved, and not wait for months and so on. the previous government did not address this, and the problem only grew. the price of grain fell, farmers claimed and complained, that it is connected with the influx of ukrainian and it was because the price of grain in world markets also decreased, and that government told farmers: do not sell this grain now, because it will be more expensive in the fall. meanwhile, in the fall, the price of grain decreased, so it was easy to explain here, to develop such a theory that it was due to ukrainian grain or russian grain. so at this moment the situation is zero, but it is worth preparing for possible actions. of course, because we... enter the process of negotiations with the european union and understand that poland has its voice, and poland will defend
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its interests, of course, ukraine will protect its own, so something must be done, but the most important thing is that those national interests do not collide, no, interests are not such selfishness, although, of course, there are those who say: "has to be, i have to earn it." yes, huge money, billions of euros. yes, but of course, during the negotiations of ukraine... agriculture, which is very powerful, is a problem, we need to come to an agreement here, because this is agriculture where artificial fertilizers are not used at all, because there is chernozem. except for plant protection products are used, and because of this, the price of such grain can be much lower. ukraine's accession to the eu also means additional payments, also for ukrainian agriculture. we have additional payments per hectare, approximately €250. we already have average surcharges in europe, but we started with lower ones. but if
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ukrainian agriculture enters, will it be possible to keep these additional payments at the same level? because will ukraine join? so it's true. and our farmers, especially the large-scale ones who make money from it, will try to protect the level those surcharges, because these are billions of euros. this must be understood. but negotiations, conversations and so on are needed here. in a democracy , nothing can be done by force. but there must be consultation mechanisms and communication mechanisms between the polish and ukrainian authorities. and here i am not necessarily talking about any open consultations, but between the president of ukraine and, for example, prime minister tusk, right? we were expecting a meeting, but it was slightly delayed, as far as we understand, for various reasons. what would the situation look like now, mr. marshalka, what are the prospects the growth of this diplomatic-political-economic activity? we are active diplomatically, but
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we are also building our position in the european union. these are the meetings of poland, germany and france. and the role of poland has increased due to the fact that we are the country on the ukrainian front, the closest to ukraine. aid goes to ukraine through us. because of us, because the hungarians blocked it. a little through romania, but most through us. grain exports go through romania, while military equipment goes through poland. this is not a secret. i am saying. that the russians are very they know very well, but we, we politicians, say this to my colleagues and i have just said to my ukrainian colleagues, we must talk and discuss what will happen after the war, how polish-ukrainian relations will develop, what we want, how we want those relations to look, should it just be some general principle, as at this moment, or
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should we treat ukraine better, ukraine is our neighbor and ally. therefore, we have a greater interest in cooperation with ukraine than, for example, the germans, who have more funds and will have more funds, but have less national interest. and that's understandable. italy, spain are far away, and so are others. there is a different interest and a different attitude in the european union, it should all be centralized. this is not always the case, because everyone looks after their own interests. the basis of the union is understanding, consensus, because if everyone fights to the end for their own, the eu will collapse, there is no such union, but everyone will get something, and we will benefit from the union. i agree with you, but this will also be a benefit for ukraine, because
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the eu provides security, not only nato, but the european union, because these are multilateral economic relations, finances. nato looks more difficult for ukraine now, because it is in conflict and wants to be accepted into nato, it constantly strives for it. and what does joining nato mean? the fifth article, the most important. yes, this means putting article five into effect, that is, going to war, but not in the way that we give weapons, introduce our soldiers. and we understand it well, and the ukrainians also understand it well, and here we have somewhat different interests, because ukraine would like to bring it to this point. our goal, mr. marshalka, is victory over the russians. yes it is soon. this means that we have to involve as much different equipment as possible, we are talking about aviation, air defense systems and so on.
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and there was an idea to, for example, use polish anti-aircraft systems to cover the western cities of ukraine. i have been thinking about this for a long time, and i am a supporter of such a decision, because a rocket that flies to lviv is unknown whether it will fall in poland, in lublin, for example, or in rzeszow, well, that is known, yes, so we should defend themselves here and, on occasion, of course, defend ukraine as well, but this issue is also for some interstate agreements on defense and so on, because we cannot just shoot over ukraine. why, for example, if there was an agreement with the ministry of defense, with the general staff, it should be, but it is not currently there, of course there is not, there is no such agreement. one country cannot fire without permission, without agreement, on another country, even for its defense. they talk all the time. putin says that poland
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wants to occupy a western country, they talk about it all the time. i remember this conversation from zhirinovsky. but i wrote a letter, i spoke to the russians then and told them well, no, no, give something of your own, for example, the kaliningrad region, and not someone else's. return us to smolensk, give the russians smolensk to us. no, smolensk is far away, but the kaliningrad region, so give us something of our own, and we will even share with the lithuanians ourselves. but you understand that this is an attempt at division, quite primitive. but we talked here about actions against ukraine. but the main thing is that the patriots, who are already near the ukrainian border, in the vicinity of rzeszów, are american patriots. and that is, it should be a tripartite agreement polish-ukrainian-american. but
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the americans will not agree to this, because they do not agree to far-reaching strikes on the territory of russia. now it has progressed very well that it is possible to attack, to attack the territory of russia within at least 100 km near the border through kharkiv, because otherwise the russians would shell it. no losses for themselves and abroad destroyed the city, the russians went too far, and this is the american response, but the patriot batteries, which were stationed in zhezhov, are subject to the decisions of american commanders, the american the leadership decides whether to shoot and where to shoot, we don't have that opportunity, but poland still has its own patriot system, you know, poland has less patriots than... at this moment, so i'll say in general, we don't, and let's go back now to system of defense of the ukrainian sky by the forces of poland and possibly not only poland, and to the capabilities of poland, yes,
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the capabilities of poland and the capabilities of nato, that is , we need, therefore, yes, we gave the mig-29, we gave these planes, these are the problems, you will have problems with missiles for the f-16, with cover those airfields. the defense of airfields must be discussed, discussed, but it is obvious that military experts are needed here, but those planes, those f-16s, must be protected, because there is no sense that these planes should be destroyed within three months, and the war continues, and this plane is not extraordinary, it is a good plane, but not extraordinary, because it can also be destroyed, just like american tanks, because i repeatedly, when i watch ukrainian television, then... suddenly there is a wave, there was a wave of bairaktars, the waters are amazing, then tanks . abrams, abrams, but also leopards. this is what it looked like, this is how it was shown,
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the public was told, please, these weapons are not destroyed, every weapon can be destroyed, and the f-16s can also be destroyed, and they will be destroyed, but you need to prepare, just to protect them, and you need to know where to put them . i once said that in a country with mountains, such things are located. on underground bases, which are difficult to destroy, and the russians are already warning, if they are located on the territories of neighbors, that is, we are talking about poland, then such the bases will be under attack, that is, will russia attack them, will they be attacked or not, i don't know , this is of course a matter for politicians, but on the technical side there is also the military, who should know where, how and so on, what distances, i think that such a situation may arise. what macron said will become relevant. and has poland joined this french proposal, or is it a solution if such a situation were to happen? the polish prime minister
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said no. but maybe things will change. but i think that such a sharp objection is not good. let the russians not fully know how we will behave. nobody wants to go to the front, so as long as it is possible and as long as it is effective, we have to... just in the states the situation can change, mr. marshall, trump can come and of course macron and not only macron are thinking about the situation , which will happen in a few months, but then the european union will unite, there will be a deeper consolidation of the european union, both in the military sphere and in relation to foreign policy, but pace, pace, pace, i know, in terms of pace, we really appreciate in ukraine, for example , aid to poland, therefore that it was done quickly. in a flash, very fast. yes, while documents would only be written in brussels, calls would still be made between brussels and
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berlin. yes, but such help should be supported by society, because it can do more harm than good. but i will tell you, i look at ukrainian men who are in poland, young men, it causes a negative reaction from poles. we in ukraine are ready to accept them, but would poland be ready to give them or help us get them. we need to talk about it, but this is also an issue that... is in your interest, because those are men work, you know, if we lose them, whole sectors of the economy, for example, construction, will collapse. it is necessary to weigh everything, but, in my opinion, the key thing for poland is to support ukraine. and everything should be subordinated to this, both our political decisions and what we do abroad, because this is the most important thing. why? it is clear, it is obvious. putin is...
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a revisionist, he undermines all the principles of international law, he pursues a policy of aggression, but his goals he does not clearly outline his goals, very vaguely, so we must do the same, respond, maybe yes, maybe not, if there is such a need, the most important thing is the readiness of the army and the capacity, communication, logistics and capacity, i agree with you and i would like to ask, for example, about the fate of the polish-lithuanian of the ukrainian joint brigade, a few days ago i spoke with... that , for example, from this brigade a division, and maybe there is a good prospect for creating, even a military corps, polish-lithuanian-ukrainian, what would be the chances? as a political slogan it's a good slogan this polish-lithuanian-ukrainian brigade was created in a different situation, i remember the moment of its creation, i supported it, because it is really a matter of the future, although i did not know what
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russia was talking about, but its benefit for the current situation is small, small, because what about the fact that there is a brigade, but for the future it would be useful, of course, it would be useful, but for the future , logistics, armed and human support will always be useful for ukrainians. no, it is only about the climate, the situation may change in six months, but the most important thing is that there is something on paper, i.e. we understand that there is a military bureaucracy, the bureaucracy of the ministry of defense, not only ukrainian, but also polish and so on. here we have to think more broadly: about readiness, about the concept, about alliances, about alliances of various types, and readiness is also, no, readiness for an alliance, the so-called political will. yes yes yes. currently, it is not such a difficult situation. ukrainians are helping themselves, but the question for us, for me, is what to do when...
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when ukraine stops giving advice, and i say, we need to consider various possibilities, you are probably considering such opportunities, we should also consider them, currently ukraine is on its own. but we had a difficult period when the united states did not give weapons, blocked, yes, when they could not vote, and it went on and on, and we understand that this was also a corridor of opportunity for putin. but the european union voted for it. giving 50 billion, but not 100 billion, well, but then you can say why not 150 billion, the states voted for 60 billion, what do you want from the poor europe has such money, the states are richer, but at the same time the usa is a power, this does not mean that whoever gives, you can vote for 100 billion, but you have to buy weapons for them, that is, make weapons, the states have weapons.
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only the usa has such stockpiles of weapons, in our country we are forced to restore and rebuild the arms industry. i am a member of the national defense commission, that is, i am engaged in the military, i know a little about the nuances. we have to make huge efforts to get back here to what we had before. for this we must think together that then? now we have to think and now we have to discuss to have a concept so that we can start. implement, you need to know what we have to do, i am also in ukraine to talk about it. thank you very much, mr. marschalk, thank you very much for your openness and for this wonderful analysis, and of course for the position. thank you very much. and i want to remind our tv viewers that bohdan borusevych, a legendary polish politician, the head of the polish senate from 2005 to 2015, was currently working on the air of the tv channel.

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