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who was born in ukraine, but what is his surname , first name, what are ukrainians, the general population of ukrainians, unfortunately, if you go out and ask them on the street, do they know who he is, you know, i think, i still think, do you know about this phrase by biden, it seems to me that when you are not sure whether it makes sense or not, you should try it, because they gave ukraine a couple of tamahawks, the ukrainians hit the kremlin and looked like this, does it make sense or not, well, no , well, well there is no, then there is no, we are parting ways, and if there is, then let's go. yes, maybe lenin's mummy got up from the mausoleum out of fear, well, we have to try, let's go a couple of tomahawks for us, the first one is better, well, i hope joseph biden is watching espresso right now and heard your appeal, even if he didn't, maybe someone on his team will tell him. dear friends, we are going to take a break, then we will talk about bruno schultz and why, how many bruno schultz streets there are in ukraine. more on that, stay with us.
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now, while you donate, you will listen to our conversation with vera menok, the director of the international bruno schulz festival in drohobych. it takes place from 7 to july 13 and it happens these days for a reason, because on this day bruno schulz, a writer, world-famous artist, was born, and ukrainians should be happy about that, because bruno schulz was born in the now ukrainian city of drohobych, but do they know ukrainians, that's right, if you go out, ms. viro, are you already? you have been promoting his name and his work for many years, do ukrainians know who bruno schulz is and how many streets bruno schulz has in ukraine, or can he compete with pushkin? we are today, by the way, in the morning we spoke with a deputy from odesa, the district council, her last name is also shults, and i say, and
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she says, the mayor does not want to change the name of pushkinska street in odesa, good. that's how ukrainians know shultz, ukrainians know shultz, and if you visit drohobych today, let's say 131 to the shultz family, and ask any of the passers-by where bruno schultz lived, where he was born, where he was killed by the german nazis, everyone a drohobychan resident will show you these places today, will show you these objects, what would... everyone a resident of trohobychan did not, let's say 15-20 years ago. this popularization of schultz, which i have been engaged in for over 20 years, because schultzfest, actually this edition of schultzfest is the 11th festival taking place, which takes place in a two-year
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cycle, this schultzfest is actually celebrating its twentieth anniversary this year. schultz street. is in drohobych, and it is a very shultsiv vuli street, because it is not even a street, such a lane, i would say, a blind alley that leads nowhere, that is, there are no two ends, no beginning and no end, it only has a beginning, or only the end, depending on which side, and there is no more shtsia street anywhere in ukraine, and whether he should compete with pushkin, well, that is an absurd question, why should he compete with pushkin, if pushkin and pushkin street do not exist in ukraine at all. it should be today, i, you know, now i discovered the new yorker of 2009, where there is a large article entirely devoted to bruno schultz, and it is called, the age of genius, well, where do they actually write how
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brilliant and important a writer he is for world literature, for world culture in general, and it is said that he is from drohobych. at the very beginning, it is said, his, his words are quoted, where he says that i am from drohobych, but there is no context in a huge publication, a big... article, where he is a galician, and galicia is here, and poland, and austria- hungary, of course, and the ausburg monarchy, and poland again, and of course jews, and there is no ukrainian context, in 2009 there was a publication about bruno schulz, and i am trying to understand, he was from drohobych, franko studied in drohobych a little earlier, so with yurko dragobych, the famous one, was there, too dragobych is a ukrainian bridge. true, but the point is not that this is a ukrainian city,
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i am trying to say something else, that here in drohobych we were so lucky to have bruno schulz, we were lucky to have pavel tselyan living in chernivtsi for a long time , for example, an absolutely great poet, we are lucky that we have, well, how unlucky for him, but, but the last, perhaps a great, brilliant... poet of the 20th century, or maybe just the last brilliant poet, wrote his the last poem grodyk and the little town exactly in having visited the town, that is, i'm just trying to say that we have such great ties with europe, we're going to europe, not russia, and we're kind of scattered with them, they... are somehow unimportant to us, well, you can think of some tselyan, you can think of some pruno
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schultz, joseph roth, so who needs them, schumpeter, something, something, but mikhail bulgakov is the same greatness, this pyotr tchaikovsky was here passing by, and so on, well, i i do not agree with you, i do not share your opinion that we are scattered with them, because precisely in bronoshulce we do not scatter, we cherish. memory of him and we take care of his return to his city, without which he could not imagine life, could not imagine his work, for him drohobych is a republic of dreams, it is a chosen country, it is the only city, everything to return his name i, it is said that a sign was also put up in the town that the york trakl was a passage here, well, there are such, but the question is, what is actually the success of odessa, it is the success of melitopol. this is the success of the currently occupied, this, this, this, now, this is the success of kyiv, what we
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we can join in this way to the great european culture and of which we are a part , including because of the state policy that should lead, isn't he a little too important for us, of course, what is important for drohobych, he is important, well - first, drohobych is a european city. drohovych is a europe with a rich, actually multicultural history, to which... bruno schulz belongs, bruno schulz is the european calling card of drohobych, bruno schulz is a writer of a very high rank, and he is an over-division on identity national actually, if we talk about identity, then we have to talk about cultural identity, it is beyond borders, beyond borders, beyond divisions, it is literature of the highest quality, the highest quality, and also... fine art, the main writers are at the bruno schulz festival , prominent
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ukrainian writers, yurii andruhovych spoke in three forms of his activity, intense in the festival, yurko vynnychuk, ostap slyvinskyi, yurko prokhasko, danylo ilnytskyi, olena rybka, nataliya tkachyk, that is, this is... a conversation of modern of ukrainian literature with the word left to us by bruno schulz. in addition, we are holding the festival for the second time during a full-scale war with the russian aggressor, and therefore these reverberations, these echoes, the victims of bruno schulz, who was killed on the street in drohobych on november 19, 1942, were killed by a german nazi only for the reason that that he was jews, and now ukrainians, not russian, russian terrorists are killing only
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because we are ukrainians. schultz is here, schultz is with us, we had an extremely interesting multi-layered discussion about memory, in fact, about the memory of presence and return, because schultz, he is invariably present in drohobych's space, present through our memory, through our memory, and his sacrifice will never be final. beyond how he returns and will continue to return, now his return, his presence is felt especially painfully, and these echoes are especially sharp, and that is why such an on... a cross-cutting segment, a cross-cutting cycle of meetings within this year's festival is a cycle of poems in shelters, we we meet in various shelters in dorobych, polish, ukrainian poets and poets read their poems, and we comment on them, and it is extremely touching, and it is extremely important, and this is
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actually our current dialogue with... and his shultsev return and his presence is unchanged at the state level , we can wait a long time until politics will change, but what matters is what people do, specific people like you, like me, and i've been fulfilling my mission for over 20 years now and i 'm trying to do it as well as i can and will continue to do it, that is, nod to them, what are they, some mythical, abstract, they are bad, for example, the state, yes, it does not exist, everything depends on us, this is my city, this is my artist, i also deal with it as a scientist, as a literary critic, and that is why we meet, and that is why this international dialogue takes place, this conversation, and these also poetic figures of schulz,
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not only in the real topography of the city, he is present, he is present in our symbolic acts. which we carry out for him and which we carry out for ourselves as well, for his place, the real one and also the one he described, which he left in his work. now we see, just this animation, it is based on the drawings of bruno schulz, he was also a very talented artist, and in the 2000s , there was such a scandal, and then, probably, just ukraine. i heard because of, unfortunately, because of such scandalous events that he was an artist and that there were so-called frescoes, because they are not exactly frescoes, but some such as wall painting, and bruno schulze, not some such, these are wall paintings, and this, in fact, it was known about schultz much faster, and he was translated into ukrainian much faster, because still
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in the late 80s, yes, but it was available, if only in the mysteries, only known about it in the mysteries. on the other hand, it is also wrong , in my opinion, i am only sharing my opinion, to believe that schulz's popularity was connected precisely with this theft, because it was a theft and it was vandalism, these murals were in drohobych, but they were stolen , mrs. viro, for those people who couldn't have been stolen like this, that is, not all the fragments, three remained in drohobych, instead such fragments, which are already by a polish restorer agnieszka kyivska was the most. open, most if restored, it was mark schraberman and company who took them out illegally in 2002, because these are artifacts made before the 45th year, 1945, and therefore permission was needed for this, of course, and all the arrangements, that is, their it was just a barbaric
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way of tearing it off the wall and stealing it, but it is very unfortunate. fact so in such and such in the life of schulz after his death, so after his death, on the other hand, we never concentrated on that particular fact factor, and we gather people from all over the world, there were years, there were such editions of the schulzfest, when we welcomed guests from more than 20 countries of the world, and not and not and both this and this were characteristic of those, the birth and development of the ukrainian recipe. these biographies and works of bruno shults and the fact that in sia, i apologize, in 2012 all literary texts, the entire block, the entire deology that is available to us today were translated by yuriy andruhovich, so this was characteristically the culminating culmination of the actual development, the development of the ukrainian reception of creativity
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brunoshults, that's when more appeared readers, more reactions appeared. more interpretive descriptions and reflections precisely in the ukrainian media, in the ukrainian space, media, cultural, literary, exactly when andruhovich translated schulz's literary texts, and not after the scandal that you mention, that the popularization of schulz, if this in ukraine, that we associated it with that particular scandal, yes, because he did not like it, and this is also, and this is also. is wrong, it is a false interpretive path, as far as i am concerned. cinnamon shops, the stories are still out, it seems in the middle of the 90s, it seems to be shkrabyuk, and i translated it for the first time, because i read them then. yes, shkrabyuk, not only shkrabyuk, yes, it was such a galician translation, and when ukrainians from the south of ukraine or from the east of ukraine tried to read it, they did not understand this dialect
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and, unfortunately, returned again to the russian translation , therefore, my such, such, my task and mission, my personal, but not only mine, was the emergence of a literary ukrainian translation of the works of bruno schulz in ukraine, such that each of his... let every ukrainian has read, and in fact, schultz did not write non-dialectal gvara, so -called, he wrote in an elegant, complex, metaphorical way, but wrote in literary polish, that is why yurk andruhovych's translation, we consider the so-called canonical, and it is a complete translation, and this is the one that came out in the publishing house of abab galamag, the publisher is ivan malkovich, there was a big presentation 12 years ago, and as of today... last year, on the 23rd , the fifth edition of this very translation, tsenemonnik and sanatorium under clepsydra, so we are talking about a whole deology, and
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also quatrains that are not included in this deology, that is, the complete corpus of literary texts of bruno schultz, but if we are going now, we are going on a journey, our today's festival day is already the sixth day, it begins with travels, places of life and creativity. bruno schultz, we will stop at certain places, read fragments of his prose and travel all the way to his, and these, these cinnamon shops, this sanatorium near klepsivdra, have they somehow remained in landscapes of modern drohobych, have they yet recognized, yes, that is, yes, er, it all depends on everyone who comes to drohobych, and if he wants to find in the topography of modern drohobych schultz. mythical, it is true, imaginary, but they exist in the imagination, not everything, not after all, only what is available to our eyes exists, yes, there is also what
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is a poetic figure, what is a metaphor, what lives in our imagination, of course, but such a topographical, real, and such an imaginary-metaphorical drogobych, everyone will find who, who, lures here, and will travel in the footsteps of shultz and, will read tsinamonov. these as a special metaphorical symbolic guide by drohobych. i know such people from japan, from america, from australia, people from holland, not to mention the poles, i have to say goodbye to you. we will start our journey in a few minutes. mrs. vera, thank you. vera menk, director of the international festival of beruno schultz, which takes place in drohobych. if someone suddenly saw our current conversation. and heard for the first time, or not for the first time, and wanted to go to drohobych, then he can visit there, to finally read the cinnamon shops or the sanatorium under the clepsydra, and you can also
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look at the murals, because there are a few murals left, and a few murals that were then stolen in the 2000s, copies were made, well, if someone lives in israel and can go to the museum yadva shem, the wall paintings that were in drohobych are actually there. which were taken from there, they are now exhibited there, you can look at them and remember the person who was born in drohobych, in the ukrainian city of bruno schultz, which has been translated into 45 languages the world dear friends, thank you for being with us, lesya vakljuk, andriy saichuk, we are still working, we have one more hour ahead of us, stay, continue to report, but i see something, something has happened... the gathering is not going well, is it? monobank hangs or something, i don't understand what's the matter. in a word, you will have the opportunity to be surprised in another hour, so stay with us, the espresso tv channel continues its work. attention,
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