another thing, well, if we talk about these, the x101, what are the general methods of shooting them down, well, in general, that is, can we, well, somehow make more efforts to ensure that the missiles do not reach this particular plan. let's start with the fact that, in principle, the knockdown ratio of these missiles, when the russians were actively using the x101a missiles, was almost 75%. and that's why in principle. here it should be noted that due to the combination of combined strikes, and recently the enemy has mostly increased the strikes with ballistic missiles, due to this, russia succeeded in monday to make such a massive attack with a hit, therefore, in principle, if we are talking about missiles of the hasta-1 class, then the classic air defense system can deal with these missiles and they can be destroyed by any, any, any air defense forces , which are more precisely...

the air defense systems that we have on the balance sheet in ukraine, they can destroy these missiles, but again, you have to understand when you have four types of missiles, in one point with the means of air defense , difficult and again, calculate that with a large number of these missiles were flying at kyiv from all sides, well, you know, a little different aspect, president zelensky from poland signed. the agreement that polish air defense forces can be used for protection, well, actually from such missile attacks, well, at least where they reach these air defense forces, and here, well, several questions arise, well, one, for example, so far how this is considered, it sounds like considering the possibility of working something out there, and whether this consideration of possibilities will last, well, roughly speaking, for years, because a little. well there is

skepticism about the use of polish air defenses in fact after several such unfortunate incidents when missiles flew there, do we still have any hope that this will be resolved quickly enough? in fact, there is probably more of a question in the concept of use, here we say, if poland , for example, will shoot down those missiles that enter there at a distance of up to 10-20 km to... poland, that is one question, and of course, what is in this and the positive points are that poland is starting to declare help and even in the airspace of ukraine, but there is a lot an interesting factor is that poland is now actively advocating the creation of a unified air defense force in europe, that is , the unification of all countries into a single air defense system, this will make it much easier, for example, for some...

countries with larger systems can, for example, distribute their forces, and here we can talk about the inclusion in these forces, the air defense of europe, the inclusion of ukraine, because ukraine has the opportunity to transfer its experience, and our experience is very good, because no country in the world shot down russian hasto missiles with the same or the same daggers, therefore, in principle, we have the opportunity to provide our experience, i think that we should enter into negotiations with such a thesis. with europe regarding the creation of a unified air defense force, and then we can say that the ukrainian aircraft provided by the western partners f-16, which they will then be able to, a certain squadron, for example, which is involved only in the protection of airspace, where without involvement in hostilities, may be based, for example, on the territory of poland or romania, then it will be legal it is easier to do than, for example, now, when we want to use it, when we are offered and constantly asked why... for our

f-16 aircraft to be based, for example, in poland and at the same time fly on combat missions to ukraine, there is a complicated legal aspect here , i think that poland will not agree, because this is a direct involvement in the war with russia. well, but as far as the air defense systems of poland, how deep into the territory of ukraine they could be involved, well, that is , let's accept this one, you know, well, that's the best option, that's how we agreed, there is something like that joint system on... how far on the territory of ukraine can polish air defense forces operate? well , again, if they will work from the territory of poland, then this is a limitation to a limit of up to 150 km, if we are talking about work, for example, with the possibility of entering ukrainian space, then here we are airspace, then we are talking about that it is possible to close the entire right bank of ukraine, even to kyiv or not, even to kyiv, even to kyiv, well, yes... there are planes in poland that

sweden gives us, sweden must hand them over to us, these planes together with f- 16 can work, i i think that not only kyiv can be closed there. but again, one must understand here that this is already the closing of the airspace by the military forces of another country. it is another matter when we talk about the unified air defense forces in europe, and when not only polish planes can fly to protect the airspace of ukraine, but also french and romanian ones. but here, again, there is a difficult issue regarding diplomacy, i think that one of the points of agreement regarding the protection of ukraine, regarding guarantees of ukraine's security, must be creation of a single systems of anti-aircraft defense forces, that is, i understood you correctly, that in fact, the creation of such a unified system of anti-aircraft defense of europe should now become the number one issue for our diplomacy? of course, it should be considered, and

again, there is no need to dwell on the issue with our western partners, to explain that, for example, missiles for anti-aircraft defense, is actually a cost. very expensive, so it's probably cheaper to provide missiles that fly 1000 km to destroy a factory that produces the same missiles of the russian hasto1, than, for example, to manufacture and seek to replenish the balances for air defense systems, to seek new air defense systems, so the question here is probably the same, we definitely need to talk to our diplomacy, both in the direction of creating a unified anti-aircraft system, yes and in the direction, for example, of permits to strike on the territory of the russian federation. but new information has appeared that britain does not limit ukrainian forces in how to use stormshadow, as far as they can decide stormshed's question is, the knocking out of some russian capabilities, there are

airfields, factories and so on, how deep can it go? of course, it is great that britain allows us to use its missiles on the territory of the russian federation, but a... the key question arises, how many can we simultaneously launch on the territory of the russian federation in order to actively work, for example, on one air base, so well there itself, for example, the policemen or something else of some airfield, which is located near the borders of ukraine. the question is how many media do we have to run at once. here there is a question in the complex approach, again we see. combined attacks on the part of russia, we see combined attacks on the part of ukraine, for example, on the bilbek airfield, when strikes were also carried out by missiles, stormtroopers and scalpels, or rather, attacks themselves, i apologize, and the strikes carried out, for example, were also by our drones,

all this was corrected by strike and reconnaissance forces, therefore, in principle, we say that a comprehensive approach is much better, therefore in in principle, it's great that britain allows us, but we need more aviation in order to be able to have a comprehensive approach to this issue and make a combined attack on such means. thank you very much to mr. anatoly khrepchynskyi. you actually expressed interesting thoughts, and the idea of ​​this common european air defense shield, which could work for ukraine as well, is interesting in general. and you know, it sounds like it could really change the course of the war in our favor. so yes, a very interesting story. well, now we have... a break, we have to go on a break, then we will talk about the situation in the direction of pokrovsky, so wait, well, now there is a pause on the espresso tv channel. there are

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mechanized brigade of magura, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, studio, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, well, actually the pokrovsky direction is the most difficult, probably the most critical battles are going on there, in particular , it is reported that... the worst such scenario is unfolding, judging by official reports in the vozvyzhinka, lozuva, and lozuvatsko areas, where the occupiers are fighting with two arms are trying to break to the pokrovsk-konstantynivka track. what can you tell us about this key logistical artery, is it somehow possible to stop it, well, what is the situation there now? eh, yes, actually, our direction is still on remains one of the hottest, even after... the capture of avdiyivka, the enemy still does not stop trying to advance as far as possible,

compared to spring, the offensive trend changes, the enemy no longer uses his equipment so massively, since the weather conditions allow them to do so, and greens, they move more in small infantry groups, accumulate in certain places, and continue to storm our positions, i would like to note here our infantrymen, who are under intense pressure on their positions, since it is not always possible to detect the enemy on the approaches, yes, our brigade is a little further south, has a defined sector, making maximum efforts, we continue to restrain the enemy, but still in certain areas the enemy manages to advance. and as we can see, their goal is to advance in two directions, in the direction of the large cities of myrnograd

and pokrovsk, and the second direction that you talked about is vozdvizhenka, novooleksandrivka, in order to block such an artery in the direction of kostyantynivka, even we also our team and together with our partners are trying to contribute many. we are trying hard to hold back the enemy, somewhere we are holding back the enemy, somewhere we are not doing very well, well , for now there is quite a long distance to the road, so let's hope that we will still be able to hold back, however, i can't say yet about the northern ones in this direction . tell me, in principle, can the russian forces now, well, fire horse, have some kind of influence on the track, or is this an option that is not available to them yet, again, everything

is possible, but it is very difficult, since it still remains there, it seems... it is seven or more even kilometers, yes, that is, it is only long-range artillery can be obtained, and well , the effectiveness of the use of this artillery, that is, it will not be so accurate, and however, yes, yes, yes, yes, however, i would like to note that the enemy, insidious, yes, we saw even in the previous days, er, mass shelling, so massed in large ukrainian...cities , the same thing is also happening at the front, especially in our direction, they are trying to use everything they have, just to advance, that is, we are not talking about losses in personnel we say, because we know that and and before, and even now, they continue, that is, huge losses, so the enemy bears, but

new technologies are also used in the plan... fpv of drones, yes, at non-standard frequencies, the enemy flies in our direction, which creates significant problems, so in movement , to us and our brothers. but it is interesting that, well, the non-standard frequencies, what is this connected with, are some new types of fpv, or new types of what, well, that is, what they use, what allows them to work like that, as far as i know. .. this view was in muscovy the lot produced is a large series, i.e. these fpv drones, they are used at lower frequencies, i will not talk about which ones, at which point we do not have countermeasures for these same frequencies, that is, it was non-standard, but i think that

we will soon be able to to somehow counteract these as well. well, at the moment, the situation is not the best, let's say, how long ago did you discover these new drones, that's how long, well, a month, a week, that is, how long ago, it's about a week, well, a maximum of two weeks, that's as far as we know, this one arrived party, yes and well to discover no it's difficult, because the damage so hostile and that is... standard rebs have significantly increased there, they do not oppose these enemy drones. well, you know, what you say is quite interesting, because it simply speaks of the speed in fact and adaptation and change of the situation, that is, it is no longer a month or two, but literally a week or two, that is very fast , which requires, well, just every week , some kind of new involvement of something new, this is

a serious speed, well, of course, the enemy has been working on it for more than one week, that is. they researched this topic, worked out different ones results, applied them, well, now they have achieved such a rather effective result, however, i will note again that the enemy is insidious, you should not underestimate the enemy, because they are also developing, they are being studied, so we must also keep up, this is how we must always be the first ones in that, because we know that... co-drivers are quite a strong point of ours, yes, so i think we'll find a solution to that as well, yes, and the other one there, in terms of civilians, i would eh recommended also there more to study this field, so to help the military, we know that many people are making great

efforts in the development of these drones, being civilians, serving in the armed forces of ukraine, so i would recommend continuing there , involving more people and also having such developments in us, they are so big in our country, yes, but we must, we must continue to develop in this regard and always be the first, well yes, especially since the speed of the implementation of all this must be, well, just stunningly fast, and speed is of course the topic of drones - this is a topic when... you failed for a week or two and you are already forced to learn something new, because, like us, the enemy is introducing new technologies, yes, and you always have to keep up with this development, that is. this is such an area, it is still so unexplored, so that everything changes every week, well, you also mentioned such an interesting thing that i

drew attention to, regarding the use of armored vehicles, just today i read from the famous expert kostyantyn mashavets that exactly on pokrovsky and turkish direction in fact, the russians have the most armored vehicles, that is, there are tanks and others there... bmps, armored personnel carriers, well, everything. and here's what you pointed out, that the russians now use, on the contrary, less, as if armored vehicles are not in your direction. what do you associate it with? you are for this one, well, he gives the data there, at the beginning of summer, well, a month and a half has passed since that moment, it is so fast, well, the elimination of this technique has happened that now they use it less, or they have it somewhere... accumulate, try to do something to prepare, how do you assess it, well , to say what they are preparing for, and i don't know,

but you know that we have been in this direction for about a year, yes, and what we saw there in the fall, winter, spring, the enemy always went on assaults with armored vehicles, that is, without sparing the personnel, they planted them there from above, even 5-10 units... a lot of armored vehicles, they sent them into storms, so we detected them quite effectively, detected them far enough away, and already on podsoms to our positions, we tried to destroy them, that is, more than half of the units was destroyed at the entrances, so with the beginning of summer, when everything has become greener, so when more people can hide there in the same landings, enemy infantry can, they changed their tactics. they began to gather in certain places, several people would walk there and gather in certain places, from where they could continue the assault, the assaults

on our positions. against which the enemy goes in assaults, so much less compared to spring and winter, perhaps. there is an accumulation of the enemy, well, now its use is very small, well, that is, it is simply seasonal, you can say so, and that's it tactically it is simple for them, they prefer now, clearly it is possible, maybe yes, but i say that even in large groups there they are already trying not to move, because they see that a lot of them died earlier, and they are also trying with small infantry to move in groups, i.e.... and this complicates the task of destroying them quite a bit, well, maybe some general things like that, well, to what extent, in general, can the wolf river become such a, well

, you know, some kind of defensive line, is it not a big enough obstacle to you can continue, well, the russians could continue to try to advance, as you estimate, we will see how the situation develops, but really this river... it is such an auxiliary outpost for us where we can deter the enemy now and also here here it is important to note that there is a height behind the river, i hope that it will help us a lot, but i have a fear that maybe, maybe the enemy will break through somewhere on the flanks, as it already happened with our brigade , but i will note that... a lot of strength , ours use a lot of energy infantrymen, because it is difficult to detect the enemy

precisely on the approaches, that is why there are more contact battles, our infantry is now carrying the entire burden of the war, yes, yes, and in the end we return to the pokrovskonstantinka track, how much is it that the enemy is breaking through there... , to the extent that it can worsen the situation of our troops and the possibility of protecting both konstantinivka and pokrovsk, this is quite a dramatic situation, but the logistical possibilities remain there, of course, it makes it very difficult there the situation in the direction, but here it is more in the direction of the kostiantynivka ravine, yes... only in the pokrovsky direction, i think it will not make a significant difference there, because logistics, it does not go here through kostiantynivka, so

there should be no problems in... , however, no, i don’t think that this track is already being used so significantly now, so i think that it is not swimming very much, and then what is the purpose of such a breakthrough of theirs exactly there, why they, they, well, this is some such way can go to konstantinivka, well, that is, what is the purpose of rushing there, it literally takes 30 seconds, 40 there is something there, yes, my opinion is... that it is precisely for the offensive on kostyantynivka, since we saw how much time is being held, yes, the direction there is also very difficult, the guys are holding on, holding the defense there, and we see that the enemy is very it's hard for time, he can't move forward, literally over there for this whole temporary neighborhood for captured, yes, that's why i think they want to develop an offensive from this

side. attack on kostiantynka from here from the south, maybe, maybe it will help them significantly, thank you, maybe not, for joining us, this is vladyslav danko, a soldier of the 47th of a separate magur mechanized brigade, well, we will meet with you in a week in this format, thank you, i am coming to ukraine with three children, i do not have a job, i need to find one. i don't have a place to live, i need to find one, and i'm still sick, what should the state do for someone like me to return? the stories of the displaced persons that we tell in the film are more eloquent than the optimistic official reports and spectacular presentations from the state structures, real life destroys myths, there is no money, wait, here we are waiting, come back or to stay, where to return, what will happen to work, loans, children’s education, where and at what cost to be treated, nothing is being done

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a nation. which united around you, in ukraine 14, it's time to learn about... the main news for this hour, greetings to all viewers of espresso, anna yavomelnyk is with you. by all buildings of the ohmadyt children's hospital were damaged by an enemy attack on july 8, one of them cannot be restored, said minister of health viktor lyashko. according to him, there are currently plans to complete the act on the restoration of the hospital, and next week ahmedit will choose a company that will carry out construction work. in general,

uah 800 million was allocated for the reconstruction of the children's hospital. these are state funds and money from charity.