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no heat, this is the nearest synoptic perspective, but of course, keep a close eye on our updated weather forecasts on the espresso channel. good evening, we are from ukraine. yes, this is the verdict program, we continue, i remind you that my name is vasyl zim, for the next hour, i am with you. i am reading in our chat on youtube, by the way, like, share, comment on the video, it is very important for the promotion of ukrainian content on the internet, the more comments, the more likes, the more views, the more views, the more in the top ukrainian news comes in, it's important, and ms. tetyana, tetyana sokol asks, north koreans are coming to donbas, north koreans are digging underground passages, why is everyone silent, it's five brigades of koreans. well
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, first of all, we are not talking about the five brigades, i read this information, it is called juche in the steppes of ukraine, but they have such juche training, that is why they write about the fact that putin's project and with whom the partnership project was signed on june 19, and this is a strategic partnership between them, moscow pays phignano 15 million dollars a year, a little i wonder about dollars for some reason, no no no no their money no... not rubles, a chuchheist sapper receives 800 greens a month, 30 for his hands, 70 for the budget, but four expeditionary brigades are supposed to arrive there, well actually, ah, and ah there should have been four engineer regiments, well, actually, that's the question, you know, we can talk about it here, but really, i think that's a matter that should be handled by the main intelligence agency, and when it has the relevant information, it if necessary , we will... share with her, military intelligence
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will definitely know better than any of us here make guesses valery pekar, a teacher at the kyiv business school, is in touch with us. mr. valery, i congratulate you. good evening. well, people are asking, i understand that this is not the topic of our conversation today, but i am interested in your opinion: should we expect any increase in aid, primarily in terms of human resources, from north korea, russia, which is already there, and the residents. who on the continent attracts and sends illegal migrants to the front, and there are many other things she does, and there are not so many people in north korea, in fact there 25 million people, this is not china, but if you have thought about it, can we expect some kind of big help or such a blow in the side from north korea to ukrainian on the ukrainian fronts, please, mr. vasyl.
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first of all, i completely agree with you that this is a matter that should be handled by military intelligence, secondly, if i understand the situation in north korea, if a north korean is taken there outside of his own country, the first thing he will do is , so if you send four brigades of koreans to bath something, then you have to send 14 more brigades to guard them, and then guard those who are guards, because as you know, north korea stops outside its borders. immediately tries to escape, and not some country with an authoritarian regime, just such a country somewhere where there is a lot of food and you do not get hit on the head, if you allow that i treat this with a certain skepticism, today, announcing our conversation to our audience, said that we will try with the direct help of mr. valery to find the necessary reflections for... the audience, who
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may be thinking today, and how will it end war, and how wars end, and what to expect, maybe someone wants to have a goal, a goal and sees it, someone wants to draw this goal for himself, does not see it, i read your beautiful words, where you spoke about how to live in time , when there is no comprehensible perspective or understanding of the time frame, already the one who said about two or three weeks long ago abroad, and many of those who predicted something once somewhere in yalta , coffee and so on, too. are already silent, that's why there is such an information vacuum, and you need to understand how to act, what to do, what and how wars are ending, is it possible to say something applicable in relation to the war that russia started against ukraine, which ukraine is waging against the russian federation today? mr. vasyl, i would start with what i used to end these posts with, with the words of viktor frankl, er... a psychologist who got into
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the nazi consager during the second world war and survived with the goal, survived with the goal of writing a book about , how to survive in such inhumane conditions. he said, forgive me, maybe not a very accurate quote, that the first to die were those who believed that it would all end very quickly, and the second died were those who lost faith that it would ever end at all, and survived those who simply did every day the things that had to be done every day, this is proven by years and the experience of millions people, the key to survival in such conditions, i completely agree with you. that government communication today is insufficient, and maybe even unsuccessful, because millions of people live in the country, they want to understand something, where we are going, what awaits us ahead, what are the scenarios of the future, what do they
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depend on, what should each specific person in ukraine do, or what should each person who left, temporarily hope outside ukraine in order to bring victory closer, this... there is no communication, it is replaced by some very individual sudden, sporadic such appeals, and here i would still like to give a little broader picture, and the broader picture is that today we are waging a war of attrition, this is putin's strategy, putin will wage a war of attrition with ukraine. he deliberately chose this path not because that he believes that russia has more resources, he knows perfectly well that russia's resources are just as exhaustive, that russia is in a very difficult situation, if it was necessary to negotiate with north korea, insulting its main ally, china, then
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the situation is quite dire , but he, knowing that he has few resources, knowing that in ukraine. they have little hope that we will lose allies, because our allies are democratic countries of the west and east, which support ukraine today, but the government may change, they will not support ukraine tomorrow, a classic example here can be slovakia, at the beginning of the great invasion, slovakia was one of those countries that were undoubtedly the leaders in supporting ukraine. slovakian aid can be divided into ratings per capita, it can be relative to gdp, but one way or another, slovakia was clearly in the first lines of this table of aid to ukraine, and after the change of power, it changed. the same situation could have happened in
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the netherlands, but the filigree work of dutch politicians led to the fact that support for ukraine was preserved. and we have the elections in the united states of america are ahead , which will determine the fate not only of ukraine to a large extent, but also of europe, and of course russia, china, taiwan, and many, many other countries of the world. moreover, the people who will make these elections, that is, american citizens, will mostly be guided by their own interests, their own ideas about the internal politics of the united states of america, about which of the candidates is better for them. as we know, there are citizens who have already made up their minds. vote for democrats or for republicans, regardless of who will be the candidate, and there are many citizens who are undecided, and it is them that the whole campaign is aimed at, it is them that the party headquarters of the american parties think about before the elections, and therefore this is putin's bet, that that
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our allies will fall away from us and support will decrease, we will not be able to resist any longer, and what is the ukrainian strategy, and here i would say that on... they are imposing a symmetrical war, that is, a war of attrition, in which we do the same , what they do, they try put pressure on us, we try to put pressure on them, and a smaller country can win, a bigger country can only be in an asymmetric war, it's like david and goliath, we remember this biblical story, who doesn't remember, i advise you to read the biblical story about david and the goliath, when a great warrior in a helmet with a night, with a yew tree, which was still there a lot, went out about... against the unarmed actually future king, small, not very strong, but blessed, and he just pinched a whole pebble just a block. that's what an asymmetric war is, and actually this one
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ukraine is already starting an asymmetric war when it destroys the russian oil refinery, when it reaches deep into the territory of russia. and of course many other things need to be done, personally i am sure that the war will end with the collapse of russia, because empires do not last long, empires... cannot exist in the 21st century, the russian empire actually lives due to the fact that it invaded ukraine, and this supports it in this way, because it would have ceased to exist a long time ago, and of course there are growing internal contradictions, about which russian the media don't really like to talk to us, because why should we know that everything is bad with them there, but everything is bad with them there, and the question is that today the west is afraid of a russian defeat, just as it is afraid of a ukrainian defeat, from here. in fact , all these conversations of our western partners about the need for negotiations, freezing, and
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so on, but we see that putin is not ready for negotiations, he chose a strategy of war for definition, although again, although he said that we are ready to talk to return to the istanbul agreements that were being prepared, and the russian side said that even they were initialed, so why not them, well, first he talked about the four regions that we had to give up, even those regions that were either completely deoccupied, or... well, not all of them are there completely, but at least de-occupied to a large extent, kherson, which was de-occupied, then they said no, well, let’s go, and then they said that zelensky was illegitimate, then they said that he was already legitimate, and then let’s at least btambul agreements, for now let’s go ahead at least there is nothing, so far, but after that, this one was terrible a blow to ohmadite, and we understand very well that the enemy wanted even more victims, god took away and of course people died. destroyed buildings, but it could have been much worse, i'm just
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saying, why, why does this show that putin also has little time, the statement, i would say, what is it called, but it is possible in principle, but they call it in the people, alkashe is the press, but she is the press of the russian ministry of international propaganda, which is headed by lavrov, she says, kyiv is preparing, this is conveyed by taz. maria zakharova, kyiv prepares destruction the dump of the kyiv hydroelectric power station of the kaniv reservoir, it is being discussed online right now, it needs to be discussed, and because people will now draw up, invent, and be more afraid than it really is, this will become another, says zakharova, cynical provocation against russia , well, i understand that the first cynical provocation, in their opinion, was a riot, and that’s how it went further, there, well, in their opinion, she declared, already said that this was another ipso enemy, the operation was within the framework of the so-called
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operation peace, well, but if it's already like that, well they say really terrible things, then you are probably right in the sense that time is very tight in russia, and finally before the time is tight , i will say that putin has decided that taxes for the population will increase in russia, so how much do you estimate economically in... there is time, and what else would he be capable of in order to press for peace in this operation, and where will the ukrainians get the strength, again, to have this strength of resistance, well, first of all, i would like everyone our viewers knew two simple rules: the first rule, russia always lies, the second rule, russia always deceives and does not follow the cloud, if russia says something, then it will decide, and... in this case, by the way, it concerns the economy, unfortunately, the information about the state of the russian economy
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is so contradictory and so distorted that among ukrainian among economists, i met very different points of view, some say that everything has already started to fall apart there, others say that it will continue for a long enough time, we do not know the truth, we know for a fact that the russian economic bloc has, in principle , made a good profit from those economic malaises, which the first unsuccessful phase brought the second. and prepared for such a long war, but the best indicator here, which is not even a tax increase, but a rapid, incredibly rapid increase in payments to those people who mobilize to the russian army, to the army of russian aggression, they have increased almost 10 times recently, which shows , which means that there are basically no volunteers, well, of course, there are only some very poor people who, realizing that they are being offered three, roughly speaking, annual salaries
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for the readiness to die quickly, sign a similar contract, in fact the same applies to all other russian tests, regarding readiness for negotiations, that means they are lying about certain agreements, by the way, i want to say that in fact there are no istanbul agreements, because the diplomats... have one a simple but important principle: until everything is agreed to the last letter, nothing is agreed, in the process of negotiations any drafts can appear in which anything can be written, and if ... these drafts did not become a document in the end , which is being prepared for signature, then these drafts are worthless, and of course russian propaganda can use any drafts, manipulate them, photoshop them, and so on. i would like to move on to the most important thing, how do we manage in this situation, we have a situation of maximum scarcity, we really do not know what will happen next, how strong the support will be,
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how far the european union will be able to build its own. industry and re-militarize, so much effort was put into europe to demilitarize, so that there would never be another war on the european continent, and here it is there is again, and it means that everything must be promoted again, and what will happen to the united states of america, what will be the position of that candidate, we may not even guess the name today, given the great uncertainty of who will win or who will win in the presidential elections in the united states of america. that is , you can dry your head over these strategic uncertainties, but i would say that, after all, this is the task of political strategists and military-political strategists, and uh, and those people who do not influence it, of course, dry their heads over it not worth it, because we always get into a lot of
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stress when we start thinking about things that are beyond our control. you remember the classic prayer. which is attributed to many religious authorities, starting with blessed hustin: lord, give me the strength to change what i can, the patience to accept what i cannot, and the wisdom to distinguish the first from the second. here is this wisdom, it is necessary to understand what depends on me and what does not depend on me. who will be the american president is definitely not up to you and me, mr. vasili, or our viewers. it depends, but what will happen... if it depends on us, it means that we can definitely do something here at home, all free forces and who can, as opportunities to give to the war, we must understand that until we win the war, there will be nothing normal in the country, there will be no normal recovery, no return of those who left, no normal level of security, this
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means that those who can go to serve must understand that sooner or later they will have to serve, this means that those who who are not ready to volunteer today, will volunteer one way or another, because obviously someone has to help. those who contribute little today understand that it will be necessary to contribute a lot, because without it we will not survive, that is, one way or another, understand that the war is in order to make the war short, i will now speak in paradoxes, do you remember this a paradox, you want peace, you are preparing for war, yes, well, it seems like a paradox, if you want peace, then on the contrary, you have to destroy the army. dismiss all the officers, sell off the healthy, as in principle was done in ukraine for many years, but it turns out that on the contrary, you want peace, prepare for war, he who has a powerful army, a powerful military-industrial complex, he is secured, he is safe from war, he has warned of war, and here too, if we want the war to be short, we must prepare for a long war , who
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is ready for a long war, is so persistent that the war ends. it is obvious that the war will end because of the events that will take place in russia, our task is to bring them closer, in all possible ways, and for which each individual person in ukraine is responsible, for what is in to the head of this particular person, to throw out all russian myths, all russian information special operations, not to spread russian, russian propaganda, even if you really want to, er... each particular person is responsible for this, prepare for the fact that it will be a long time , and then it will be short in a paradoxical way. well, yes , indeed, this phrase scivi spas parabelom, it is true, you want to wait for the war, and as for what you are rightly saying, ah, you are preparing for a long war, and then it can be short, this film was, he, well it ukrainian cinema, but the russians also
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joined its filming at that time, in our country it was called infamous, and there they called it defense of sevastopol, about a female sniper, a well-known one, and there was such a phrase, very revealing in this movie, because i do not consider it a movie russian, i still consider it ukrainian, although , of course, then it was a specific cooperation, but in any case, there was a phrase such and such that life is like this, war is also such a life, and you know , when always, when it seems that it's difficult, it's hot, the temperature, tariffs, everything else, you understand it's beautiful, how it's burning now in a bulletproof vest somewhere in a trench, in the zaporozhian steppes, and... i have friends, acquaintances there, i understand very well that there is always someone worse off somewhere, but this is also life, there is life, there is life, well there are people who have decided that for them this life... there is no war, they break the law and cross the borders, unfortunately, people with money and without money, well, this is again, this is a choice for which
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a person will be responsible, and, but we, staying in ukraine, those who are outside ukraine are actively involved, financially, humanitarianly, as whatever, before the fight, they understand that this is life, well, you just have to understand that war is also this life, and not every city comes with cabs, like, say, it is there in kharkiv or pokrovsk or what is happening now in... and so on, in cities that are no longer there, that's why, but we are all, we are all in this war, this is life, and if we accept it and understand it, then probably, maybe it will be easier to overcome it, but regarding that, the viewers are asking now, because the broadcast is on youtube, and they are asking for you, mr. valery, the question is that biden's victory is important for us, they write amazing, that's how this contributor on youtube describes himself as amazing, i'm a little... i'll sit down more comfortably, we already have such an evening conversation, you can sit down more comfortably. biden's victory is important for us, he writes, and not the victory of putler trump's fan, these are not my words, again, because i respect both
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candidates, this is the choice of the american people, and what can prevent biden's physical health from continuing to participate him in the elections, i'm about to, well, i'll give you the opportunity to react to this question, it's up to you addressed, and for the audience to understand that there is a connection between them and our guests, but you know, it reminds me of... the moment that was at the european championship, when the ukrainian national team, regardless of the result of the match against slovakia and romania, had to simply beat belgium, but if we just beat belgium on our own, it wouldn't matter, but everyone had their own benefit, someone played a draw, actually we were eliminated from the euro, so in this situation, you know, you always have to rely on yourself, you have to score more goals, concede less and do what you can, and if there is more some help and everything will work out in a way that is beneficial to you, and thank god that it worked out. now, let's talk about what we can do to win, and if everything goes well on the parterre, well, thank god, where do we have to rely on ourselves so much that we
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can win on our own? well, first of all, mr. vasyl, i would say that donald trump is definitely not a fan of putin, donald trump is a fan of only one person. donald trump is a fan of only one person, and that person's name is donald trump. he is a fan of himself and on he was waiting for everyone else. secondly, what... what should ukraine do? ukraine needs, ukraine must have strong bipartisan support, both republicans and democrats. not to bet on any one candidate, but to have strong bipartisan support from both parties of the united states of america is a guide, so that regardless of who will lead america after the elections, support for ukraine remains at a high level. for that, it is necessary not only to work with teams. potential presidents, for that you need to work with both parties, for that we need to work on the ground, not only in washington, for that we need to work in the districts where these
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senators and congressmen are elected, and of course, ukrainian diplomacy will not be able to solve all such huge issues by itself, for that we need to connect all possible forces , which influence america's attitude towards ukraine, and this is parliamentary democracy, this is also church democracy, you know that the united states of america is a very religious country, and also... our protestants have very strongly joined the negotiations and changing the american position, this artists are entrepreneurs and so on and so forth. i want to draw attention to the situation in great britain, bipartisan support means the conservatives have now left government houses, the labor party triumphantly won the election, but madly. ukraine's support has remained, but if we work like this with each of the countries that are important to us, then obviously we will have support that will
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only grow, well, again, what should each of us do, each of us, first of all, stop swearing about the west , as is very fashionable with us recently, is that he is something does poorly, does not help enough, is not decisive and so on and so on. we did very little in previous years to make him feel that ukraine is his, ukraine must be protected above all else, we did not look like real europeans, like real representatives of western civilization, and that is exactly what we can do, one way or another we will have to become european, it is written in our constitution, we are now actually opening the implementation of not negotiations for the european union on membership, but the implementation of the plan of preparation for membership, and... that is, we all need to become greater europeans, we all need to become greater euro-atlanticists, and here, of course, each specific person can do it, our daily
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life. creates a lot of opportunities to behave as a european, or to behave as, sorry, maybe this will offend someone, as a russian, as a post-soviet person, that's who we are, how we behave in our daily life, as post-soviet people or as future europeans, it depends on each person specifically, and finally, i want to say, mr. vasyl, and dear viewers, viewers, in a situation of maximum uncertainty, when is it possible, when... of course , to waste hours gathering information about what will happen to us, to sit and draw scenarios, i would rather leave it to certain analysts, civilian and military, and to each a particular person needs to pay attention to what is around him and to what is inside him, and pay attention to yourself, do something for yourself, do something for the people who are nearby, do something for people who have it harder than you, and
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there are many such people, they are fighters of the armed forces... with of ukraine, these are internally displaced persons, these are people whose relatives have died, uh, and many, many other people who have, who, who have a harder time than you and i, do something for them, and when you do something for that, for another person, and it becomes easier for you, it becomes easier for you, this is an old rule, very simple, and it always helps, it always helps, er, i would like another one, i mean, we literally have three there there are moments, even a little more, i would still like your assessment, well, in general , of the opportunities and resources of the ukrainian economy, today we had the opportunity to talk with a person who is a shareholder of a company that pays taxes in ukraine, and he said that there are hundreds of thousands of testimonies that it is difficult, i will say yes, it is difficult, somewhere the difficulty is determined by someone, somewhere it is simply difficult ,
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mobilization, these are obvious things, happening. but again, well, the economy is about people, the economy is about people, first of all, who pay taxes, and it's in a difficult situation right now, your assessment of what should be done really, or so that we can stand on those rails, along which we would go and get to of our victory, well, at all, again , your opinion, very briefly, but whether the change of the government, which is currently being discussed, will be able to influence it in some way, improve it through cooperation. and business climate in ukraine. let's start from the end. it is not important who the government officials are, not the last names of the people in the government, it is also important in which offices the decision is made. if you gather the best government officials, but do not give them the opportunity to make the necessary decisions, and the decisions themselves are made somewhere else with the participation of other people, then such a government will not do anything good for ukraine. well, or if you leave it to the government some secondary things, or, for example,
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to hang some on the government. unpleasant things, and some pleasant things to take away, that is, the question is that the government is really dependent only on the parliament that appointed it, but the question is to implement the constitution of ukraine as it is definitely written in black, this can help, but what is about putting the country on the war rails, to a large extent the country is already on the war rails, if anyone thinks... that somehow these war rails will pass and her eyes will not be affected so or otherwise all, but the ukrainian military defense-industrial complex is developing quite rapidly, and its private part, and its public sector, and it is so non-private, non-state, i would say the volunteer sector, a huge number of things are done, in fact, by horizontal networks of ukrainian citizens
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and women citizens who feel the call to somehow help our winners, one way or another, we live in a bad business climate, it did not develop because of the war, it developed because it has always been like that, and war is not an excuse not to make reforms, on the contrary, war requires more decisive reforms than those than peacetime, and eh, i very much hope that a... the future changes of the government will not only be a change of surnames, not only a change of face, but a greater responsibility of the government for decision-making and a greater commitment of the government to economic freedom, without economic freedom, without the rapid development of the private sector of the economy, which today suffers not only from things that are understandable to everyone, such as e-war, mobilization, unpredictability, blackouts
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