nasams is certainly a complex that has already proven itself in the world. iris is one of the most modern complexes that we have in service today, it can work in cooperation, well, with different systems, that is , it is possible to issue information from the iris radar even on the soviet system. the radar there is amazing, now we already have patriot, we already have sumpty. do you prefer to work on c300 or patriot? and no, well, it's impossible to compare, why? well, because es3 is like, if petrio is a grandson, then strisa is like a great-grandfather, that is, they are different generations, of missile systems, peter, is much more effective. the world has realized that

you cannot fight a war with airplanes alone, because if there is a massive missile attack, then it must be shot down with something. the turning point, in the end, was the decision of the united states and other countries to provide ukraine with western systems, these are the first two batteries on their own. after nasams of two batteries came the irst battery. the provision of these systems showed western partners. first of all, their effectiveness, it inspired confidence that we would endure. there was such a thing as boys we went, well, to study for patriots, that's right, they had to study there for three months, after a month they said that we already know everything, let's go to work. our people studied in the united states, and in germany, and in norway, and in other countries where there is an appropriate base. yes, there are specialists,

instructors who can do it quickly. americans and germans talked about patriot for 3-4 months, well, our experts prepared for 3-4 weeks. welcome to ukraine, to our native land. thank you. when the patriot, the commander, has already arrived, he always meets people from abroad. welcomes to ukrainian land, always says, with not empty hands, i see, we have arrived. well, shall we try? that's what he said then, sitting in patriot. they said: let's try and after a while they shoot down the first dagger, the first dagger on which the calculation worked, this is the calculation, at first i didn't understand that it was the dagger, because so many fantastic stories were told about it, so it's a difficult target, in we are a high-speed target, but it is possible to shoot it down, we did it, then we already understood what it was you can shoot down, they shot down again...

the planes were shot down on the approach to the borders of ukraine in the bryansk region, and they were shot down by patriots. the commander conducted a brilliant special operation involving patriot systems. they flew two su-34 su-35 aircraft. in fact, they have already flown to the border of ukraine and released guided aerial bombs. their work was provided by two helicopters, plus a third helicopter, it just fell under the distribution, and thank god. at first i counted the targets, but then at a certain moment i lost count and now i have already destroyed more than 50 targets as part of the combat calculation, airplanes, helicopters, cruise missiles, drones, ballistic targets, well , the whole spectrum, there are moments when someone... from the managers calls and says, well, now

you will have news, and already by the voice you can feel that it is good, that that something so kotsapsky fell, that is what i like more about our work, it is directly destroyed whole and the reaction of our people to our work, to our successful work, those who know me write when it was loud, thank them for not sleeping, but thank you for being alive. himself, when you write, you tap on the keyboard, and you are happy that there really is such a result, and how happy the people who do it, our anti-aircraft fighters or pilots and so on, are really emotions, sometimes i hear there with mothers and all, well, but it can be seen, how people are sincerely happy.

i accompany the border of the park near the azimuth 150 , then 250, the target is in the yers zone, take a rest. spark will take the first two in turn, the first second target in the zone. spark accepted two in a row punch, readiness two, turn off the equipment, thank you all.

the chevron of our brigade, which does not have sanctified by fire written on it, is the newest chevron that was available introduced after the start of hostilities, because if we hit air defense, we hit the first targets that were there, we were fired upon, and we were as if consecrated by fire, because we first passed through the fire, recovered and continued to work, that is, we carried out the task, i am very proud, i am proud that i found such a chevron, the enemy is hunting for the patriot and other systems, even three-pointers, they will not spare missiles, systems to hit them, now... a year ago the air defense took a huge step forward, it is possible by 100 % to say that our plo is the most experienced in the world, and this combat experience gives

us the right to believe that our polo is one of the best in our world. we learned there on patriot, on iris, on nams. western partners have a unique opportunity to test their weapons on the battlefield. this is the best advertising for manufacturers. give us more weapons, we will certainly test them on those who need them. we also add the ballistics that shot down the patriot, which is about 20 iskanders and 15 daggers. well, pppo is, first of all, a shield of the sky. because we if is protection what with he is falling from the sky, we will destroy everything as much as possible, our sky is protected, of course everyone has families, these are women who are waiting for the pilot, well, getting in touch after each combat sortie, the anti-aircraft gunner is also

going, combat work is going on, he destroys rockets, but those rockets may fly over him, and my wife, who sits at home and waits for her daughter, knows this too, when i get to the city. and i see when mothers and small children walk in playgrounds, in bundles, on the streets, in parks, then i get pleasure from the fact that that i understand that we are doing something right, and people trust us, they can live their everyday life, like in the war, but that 's it, it's still life, i wouldn't have it, dad...

your place is waiting for you , the light remains on, for dinner - what you like,

a warm bed is made, there will be walks, swings and swimming. they are waiting for you on your streets, at school, in your church, because in your house they see dreams about you, you are always in front. with their eyes, they cry for you, they pray for you, we were surprised, because we knew that you were already somewhere nearby, half the battle is knowing how hard it is to win and we'll do whatever it takes... to hug you sooner so when you're home,

when we're together, we're more than a family, we're a nation united around you , good evening, we are from ukraine. the situation in the energy sector is catastrophic, is it possible to fix it, how will we survive despite heavy shelling and mines, farmers are harvesting grain. explosions in mariupol, what was the target and what was the target in the city occupied by the enemy, a passenger plane, a dry superjet fell near moscow, is there dead and injured, russia scares with the fact that it can detonate dams under ki. and pidkanov, calling it possible provocations, as they say, of the kyiv regime, are the russians really so angry

that they resort to such falsifications and such intimidation, and the package of american aid to ukraine, which will be packed in this gift from joseph biden and from his government, about this and not only about this, we will talk today for the next hour and 44 minutes, this is the velike eter program, my name is vasyl zima and we are starting and of course, let's start with the situation at the front, serhiy sgurets, director of the defense agency. the express is already with us, sergey, good evening, please, i congratulate you vasyl, i congratulate our viewers, today in our military section we will really talk about the new package of american military aid, about the collision with the british storm shadow missiles, to strike or not to strike in russian territory, that's what's at stake now, and who's winning the battle of drones and digital technology on the battlefield in a conversation with the celebrity. an expert sergey flesh, more on that in a moment. on the eve

of the conclusion of the nato summit, the united states announced a new package of arms aid to ukraine. the cost is 225 million dollars. this package addresses the urgent needs of our armed forces. first of all, in the field of air defense, there is. to small arms, but the main thing in the package is one patriot battery, this will be a second battery from the united states, and if all promises are fulfilled, including deliveries from romania and the netherlands. in total, kyiv will already have eight patriot systems. usually one

the patriot battery costs somewhere within 1 billion dollars, here 225 million for everything. it can be explained by the fact that all these weapons are taken from the reserves of the ministry of defense, that is, faster and cheaper than new models. and missiles for the patriot are in other packages, in particular in the package that was announced earlier, there for 2 billion dollars, where it was about... the production of a significant number of missiles for both the patriots and the nassams, but the issue here is not so much the number of weapons , but also in the ability to use it to the full, in accordance with technical and tactical capabilities, with the patriots seem to understand everything, the enemy target is flying, we shoot it down even on the territory of the russian federation, but now the military-political leadership of ukraine wants the united states to lift restrictions on the use of another. weaponized the depths of russian territory and, first of all, we are talking about atakams with a range of 300 km with cluster

weapons - this is an ideal weapon for thinning russian aircraft at airfields and for destroying russian air defense systems, as well as forces that can accumulate in operational depth to prepare offensive actions. but so far, our main partner is not disturbed, but it was interesting to listen to the press conference... at the conclusion of the nato summit, when he was asked whether he would allow ukraine to use american long-range weapons to strike military facilities in favor of russia. and biden replied that the us military does not see the expediency in this, but the us has allowed the use of american weapons in the border regions of russia, that is, hymar up to 100 km, and i, as biden said, follow the advice of the chief of staff, as well as the secretary of defense and intelligence officers , and we every day we decide what they should, that is

, the ukrainians, and what they should not do and how far they... can go, and this is logical, - said biden, well, here the logic is so-so logic, because in my opinion it would be much more logical, for us to go really much further than now and destroy all the targets that pose a threat, and the logic here would be to preserve the lives of both military and civilians, because the enemy's opportunities for attack have significantly decreased. and then there is the conflict surrounding the use of british stormshadow cruise missiles. with with these missiles, we have already destroyed a significant number of russian air defense systems and radars in crimea and even a submarine with a ship that was under repair, a range of 300 km, just the optimal range that allows us to use the full potential of these weapons, and regarding stormshadow, we just yesterday they said that britain has no restrictions on the fact that its

missiles are used deep inside the territory of the russian federation, about this... said, in particular, the new prime minister of britain, and in fact the situation changed during the day, the british edition of the telegraph published the material in which it is said that great britain did not actually give ukraine permission to hit the territory of the russian federation with stormshadow missiles, as explained to the correspondents of the telegraph in the ministry of defense of britain, and there they reminded about it. that the permission concerns only the possibility of using these missiles in crimea, and if they hit the russian federation, this will lead to an escalation and may involve great britain in a conflict with the russian federation. in my opinion , the situation is actually not adequate from the point of view of our needs, and today's is another one

the message, where it was said about the position already. british foreign minister david lammy, where he said that in london they are considering ukraine's request to use stormshadow cruise missiles against targets deep in the russian federation, and i want to hope that these red lines in the minds of our partners will be overcome, because the practice past proved that in reality the theory of so-called controlled escalation in the war with russia does not seem to be the result. tive, and here such fundamental, essential changes are needed. we we continue, and now let's move on to the collection, so we invite you to join the project from scratch to life. this collection is quite small, but it is very important, i believe that we will be able to collect these 4 million, because it is a collection for

atvs for the rapid evacuation of the wounded and the delivery of ammunition. support the donation that you can make today in... highlight the soldiers of the legendary 93rd separate mechanized brigade kholodny yar. our defenders win every day without leaving the wounded and dead on the battlefield. so for evacuation , atvs are indispensable assistants, and they also allow you to move off-road as quickly as possible, which allows you to perform combat missions much more effectively. soldiers who have already passed more than one test are always ready to repulse the enemy, for the sake of our peace, they fight both on holidays and on weekdays. can take turns at positions, i would also say that both in the cold and in the heat, especially if we are talking about the heat, then i think you can now imagine what the heat is like somewhere in the steppes of donetsk region, kharkiv region or zaporizhia region or kherson region. your support is significant increases the chances not only to successfully complete the task, but also to return from it alive. so join the gathering. our goal is uah 4 million. and a little later i will tell you how much we have already

managed to collect. yes, of course, i understand that we will not collect it in one day, although everything happens, but gradually. you and i will definitely do it, we have already collected more than one million, tens of millions of hryvnias and how many, and we helped the army, we will help this time too, because the army is our everything. ihor ganenko, producer of kordon media, sumy. mr. igor, i congratulate you. good day. i will ask first about the security situation. enemy shelling of sumy oblast, i know that there were fires as a result of enemy shelling, if it is possible to localize these stories of enemy attacks. please. yes, indeed, the enemy shelling continues, the border of the sumy oblast is shelled every day, and even today our film crew worked on the border as well, one might say. came under fire because, well, fortunately the journalists were no longer in that building that was being fired upon, but it literally happened in those minutes when the journalists,

our journalists, had already left that facility, unfortunately, the shelling continues, the enemy also uses not only drones and mortars along the border, but also, unfortunately, shaheds, and recently there was a shelling with ballistic missiles. like iskander, well, if we talk now about the humanitarian situation in those communities of sumy region, well, in particular, the bilopolsk community, i think that the whole of ukraine has already learned the name of this community, and not only it, but right next to it near the border, the enemy used to go there often with the help of their own subversive and reconnaissance groups and, in general , enemy drones and mortar fire, of short-range artillery were constantly there, what is the situation now in the summer and are people leaving in view of the fact that the enemy does not stop their attacks? unfortunately, this

is the situation on the entire border, not only in the bilopol community, but in general, most of the people who stay in the communities are already used to it, and even recently we talked with residents of the border in one of the communities, and they informed us... that they even already distinguish by sound what is flying, where it is flying from, where it is flying, our drones or enemy ones drones, so you can say that those residents who did not leave, they have already adapted as much as possible, no matter how it sounds, but those residents who left, now there is such a situation that people are partially returning, because many people have farms left in... these territories on the border, and people either return, let's say, for the summer period in order to take care of the farm, or they can

just come there once a week or several times a week from safer territories. well, here are two pieces of news, i will try to combine them and get out actually to the question: the coordinator of un systems in ukraine visited sumy oblast, i understand that there are different systems and programs that work there, which is interesting. maybe there are any offers, programs, help specifically for sumy oblast, and a benefactor from germany handed over 13 generators to the trostyanets community, what am i leading to, we are preparing for the autumn-winter period, it is clear that the enemy will not stop, as representatives of the ukrainian government say , electric substations are already aimed at it, if nothing is changed, not relocated, not buried underground, then of course, the enemy can destroy, even though nuclear power plants can work, transmit electricity with something, too. it is necessary, if there is nothing to transfer, there is no way to transfer it to consumers at the end, then of course, the situation can be very difficult, sumyshchyna, but in view of, well, this is just an example of

generators for the trotsynet community and the visit of the un representative, in general at the level of communities, possibly at the level of the regional government, how does sumyshchyna prepare for this time, for this period of autumn and winter, which may be without light or minimum feed. energy, heat and everything that can make people's lives so difficult, and even more difficult, please, really the situation with electricity, well, it is expected to be difficult, it is not a secret for anyone, but we can say that this difficult situation has already been protested, so that, well, many experts really say that the situation in july is now what is expected later in the week. it is also the winter period, indeed now the light is absent more often than it is, however, we know that

many international organizations, international donors are really preparing for this and they help the residents, in particular, the border guards , so that people are prepared for this as much as possible, as far as i know, there is even a program that will help people. in the purchase of solid fuel boilers, therefore, with regard to international aid, there is it, indeed, you can always say that we would like more, but we all understand that we are not currently in the conditions to, let's say, go through or demand more, yes international aid there is, and i'm sure that the local authorities are also preparing for a difficult heating season, and... i think that we will report more about this later, and please tell me, without mentioning the pace, scale, in the location, but

the work is still going on, is it possible... now they have already been completed with regard to the construction of fortifications , some time ago the enemy very actively dispersed the topic of a possible attack on sumyshchyna, and the ukrainian side actually said that there was such a possibility, the enemy was accumulating manpower at that time, but not accumulating equipment so that their manpower, half-alive, i would say so, could to invade, because they understood that without armored vehicles and other forces and means of invasion they could do... but they did not last, so for some time there was a scarecrow and maybe it was not groundless, as of now, do these threats of invasion exist, or at least are they talking about it on sumy oblast, because you know, every day there are different topics and not always the topics that specifically concern sumy oblast, kharkiv oblast, or another region are in the top, so is this topic relevant now, namely fortification works, are they ongoing and do they continue to be allocated to these funds, and

the most important thing is that these works... will give a certain effect, having studied the possibly negative experience that, well, that we had, let's say this, fortifications are being built, i personally, when with our film crew, we travel along the border, and this is the border throughout the region, along the entire length of the border, and we see them, of course, they are there, and well, we already see certain completed objects there, certain ones in the process of construction. recently, the sumy ova also reported that additional fortifications and additional defense lines were being built, specifically to save money. that is, fortifications are being built, i hope that the mistakes or shortcomings that may have been in other areas are really taken into account, so

this... process is going on and i hope that it is going well. as for the hype about a local breakthrough there in sumy oblast or some demonstration actions of the enemy's actions, now this information wave has subsided a little, because really, well, we all see that the enemy tried to make such a breakthrough in kharkiv oblast, but the defense forces were able to prevent him and he essentially did not achieve the... results he was counting on, and therefore, actually, now this information wave has subsided a little, but we all have to understand that our enemy dreams of capturing the whole of ukraine, so we, i think, i am sure that the military also understands this and in time, let's say, control these threats that may occur. thank you very much for

your work, first of all, and thank you for. who joined for comments, yehor ganenko, the producer of kordon media sumyshchyna, was in touch with us, and the next guest is also igor, but he is igor eisenberg, a professor at new york university, and we will talk about the results washington summit and not only about that. i congratulate you, mr. igor. i congratulate you, mr. vasyl, i congratulate all the viewers. here's where i 'll start, tell me, please, in your opinion, this is the error. the naming or nomination of president volodymyr zelensky by putin in the performance of joseph biden, this is somehow discussed in the american media, here not in the same sense, you know, in ukraine, probably no one reacted to it, because we all understand that our president is our president , despite the fact that he did not have any political preferences elections, and putin is a monster who attacked ukraine, that's why, but i'm leading

this summit and even such slander. of president biden, do they not weaken his position, his prospects in the elections, which are supposed to be held already in the fall. well, look, it's being discussed by those who, who, let's say, don't like president biden, or want him out of the election, but i just want to say that, well, biden has these excuses, they've always been, well, like , like anyone else. well, he really, by the way, also yesterday, he said, wanted to say vice president harris, said vice president trump, and he himself laughed after that, well, i want to say, for example, on the air of your tv channel, about 10 days ago, i wanted to say, the debate is not decisive for the results of the election, said, the election is not decisive, decisive in the outcome of the election, and even, even your colleagues are very…