greatly impairs the quality of life, and she also suffers from it, then in this she can find motivation to do something about this fear, if she does not suffer from it, then we probably won't tell her anything, we won't advise her, huh, but people who are there, for example, there is anxiety, and they are lying in the bath, and some are ready, i know that i have a friend who says, i am ready to receive this rocket. here i am clean, everything, everything is cool, there are, there are such people, and we promised you that we in this block will give you a little resource advice, what would you could advise people, again, who are not at the front, and even families, husbands, brothers, sisters who are at the front, that we can here, here... how we can support ourselves to

have resource to support even them there? ugh, well, i think that we can apply, divide, for sure, our internal and external resources, and if we talk about it, well, maybe let's start with the external ones, because they are more obvious, we can look at our life, yes we can even make a diary and observe for a few days, which ones, what we do, and how this activity affects us, does it exhaust us, does it give us strength, and we can do the simplest management of these things and a little, maybe delete some of them, delegate some, put some on pause, and increase some, if we see that there is some activity that really improves the mood, but it is very little there, we can...

plan it a little more, uh, and in terms of our internal uh capabilities, regulate it , then here, of course, it is this emotional component, that is, what do we do with it huge guilt or shame, and learn to be with these emotions a little bit, and notice them and make some kind of choice, what i will do with it, well, yes, but not let them swallow us too, i just remember too... i i was very deeply involved in volunteering and i simply had the impression that i was already living at the front, well, non-stop, and i remember that i wasn't just tired, i didn't get out of bed anymore, i started some health problems, and it was like i was here, although i helped a lot there, it was a bunch of free concerts where i didn't get again... this is also a financial resource,

uh, it was a collection point, i collected funds and sent them there, it was some kind of constant sending, it was constant viewing of videos where cars burned down in them, what is needed for these cars, what is needed to these jeeps, and i don't like it, that is, i don't like iron and cars, although i enter the car, but it's not my hobby, i just remember at some point that i turned off. from this volunteer, i was so tired of it, and although my conscience and guilt gnawed wildly at me, what about the boys and girls out there that i can be helpful, but i just realized at some point that i'm not helpful, uh, because i couldn't raise my hands anymore, i couldn't pick up the phones, i couldn't negotiate anymore because my just resource, not only that, but also fina. where i just dumped

everything and i had a moment when i already went to the lombard, that is, i really didn’t even have my son oleksy, he is 15, worried that we wouldn’t be able to buy something for ourselves financially, and we didn’t we'll just rake it out in no way, and i very much remember my struggle inside, how well, they are there... it was still bakhmut then and and and in general, but i just somehow agreed to myself that all these people who were around me, who help the boys, they are, they remain, they are men who who have more, perhaps physical resources, who prefer to get these spare parts for cars, for thermal imagers, i said, you stay there, everything is fine, there are these phones, they are there, but i'm going, ugh, i'm going. i honestly

recovered, that is, i continued to sing concerts, volunteer, but it was no longer such an inclusion, and an active one, in fundraising, as it was before... and getting a bunch of spare parts there and something else, i just remember this state of mine, where i was wildly tormented by this feeling of guilt, how could i do that, but then i actually you talk about this action all the time, i resumed art therapy, because i realized that this is a greater resource for me, we created this retreat with kolomamu, where we met you, and where we can give a greater resource there. to women, again, who may be waiting for someone from the front, who are also war-weary, not war-weary, yeah, uh, i just saw that i could be more useful there in my projects with lullabies or with poets, to sing, and i just

remember how my battery started to charge, and it was also social work , but i am now already there, and then i finally came and ... collected a huge amount over and over again for the armed forces, i am simply sharing with our listeners what i have in this way, and this is what olya is talking about, what you need to be active all the time, which is just guilt, it, as i have already learned, by the way, on this, on this program, by the way, about dodgers, that it is useful a feeling of guilt that then it does not indicate some kind of psychopathy or. it is useful if it corresponds to reality, if it regulates us, our activities, if it is within certain limits and

frameworks, and here, too, it was important to start doing something of my own, to go somewhere, i remember that i had. such a prayer: god, give me people with whom i can be filled and who can inspire me, ugh, i needed this so much, that is, i did not want to hear that there is a war, and it will last for many years, that it is still something, something else, something else something, i thought, okay, well, you say that this war will last for many years, we are already there without resources, in anxiety, well, in danger actually, but actually, what can we do about it? what can we do if it really lasts for many years, well, you are talking about this experience, i understand that at the first stage you had burnout, that's what it sounds like, well, it's a year for no, it was almost a year and a half like this a very deep volunteer, maybe even more, because i have been

practically since the beginning of a full-scale war i started volunteering very actively, and it lasted for more than a year and a half , actually, but it hit me so hard, burnout is an even more difficult process, even than fatigue, because fatigue is actually the first stage of burnout, then we already understand that there are already changes, then a person may lose some meaning in that activity, he does not feel his achievement, empathy may increase or decrease and some cynicism may increase, if there are further stages, accordingly, the person really is. loses its function, that is, what you managed to reorient myself, and relatively according to my values, to another activity, and to find some kind of balance between the fact that it does not exhaust you so much, and somewhere it fills you up a lot, you mention people, this is a huge resource

, in fact, the people with whom we are one wave, and with whom we are safe, and this does not mean that i forgot about the people who are at the front, that is , it does not matter, it was my inclusion anyway. because i remember that at one of the art therapy we also collected money and the girls transferred the money to the front, and then we they held an auction there, where we sang and we collected a large amount and also sent it to the front, that is, i am leading to the fact that i really want listeners, people who watch us on youtube, so that they simply understand that we can and adjust, and if we are exhausted somewhere here, somewhere... we can't here, then we can get this resource in another place, again, i even had moments, i remember such moments, i'm just sharing mine, and my experience, that i just i took headphones there, because there were often sirens, i just went to the forest

breathed, because i knew, that is, it is possible that it is worth finding some places of strength, and where you have this place, where you can be. alone, inhale, exhale and return, return to this life. i remember that i also went to the pool there, i just lay on the water, i didn't even have a physical. to swim, i lay down, people were looking at me, but my body was so tired that i couldn't do anything at all, but i just went to this pool, because i knew a little, come on solemiya, come on a little more, you love water, you love there to dive, and it, i also knew that it didn't work either, so and so, but just so when we even did the retreat and when we... there we danced, sang, especially for me the singing, and when you let out that scream, because

many of us also forbid ourselves to shout, and we forbid ourselves to, i don't know, to be aggressive and angry, because, well, how come, and sometimes we also lash out at our relatives, and that's how it will be, probably, i don't know, olya can share advice that it's worth it, but when... you let yourself go, well, actually, when we have a space to share with, and with whom to understand that i am not alone in this experience, others have it, and when you are accepted, yes, when you are not judged, not pushed away, just ready to hear, this actually has a great healing effect strength, and well, we are arranged in such a way that we our nervous systems regulate each other, yes, because from childhood we receive the first information about whether the world is safe from our parents so. what kind of us, for example, they are next to us, and they tell us, it 's okay, they can stroke us there, and we

we get used to this being a sign of security, and when we are already in adulthood with each other in such a safe way, we give these signals, these are some kind of physical hugs, some kind of adjustment, in particular singing , co-regulation also works very well, so when we are all together e we do it together, we interact with each other and support each other. yes, can we also say that people look for their people, it is definitely a huge resource, and i want to pay attention here to the fact that we are talking about fatigue today, that fatigue can be a little to put dust in our eyes, because when we are tired, we tend to be more irritable, we have less resources to withstand someone's emotions, and even relationships in general, maintaining a relationship requires resources, and even when we have them... we tend to isolate ourselves , to close, and this, unfortunately, leads us to such a kind of next circle

of fatigue, and because we are already losing an important source of support, so it is to look for people with whom it is good, this is almost the first point, i would say, and, to things that are actually good to look for, i also recorded them, i was there now, well, in may was mother's day, and i sang for the disabled. children and from families with special children, i also realized that i don't have the resources, i don't have the resources at all to be with them and be the way i was before the full-scale war, that is, to tell them something, to give them, and then i remember, when a girl with down syndrome came up to me, and she just hugged me, and i thought, my god, it's a girl, because she... she may not realize that there is a war in her country, she is loved by her parents, this

the center she lives in is fine and so is she in such a crown came up, and i thought: god, child, you have no idea what a resource you have given me now with that smile of yours, sunny, although before that i thought, god, why am i agreeing to this, because what tormented me the most, that i won't be able to give them this hand, huh. this hand, and it turns out that they also became a resource for me, i think that now we all as a society live in such a mode that somewhere i supported you, somewhere you supported me, and such a mutual exchange, there we each gained somewhere, somewhere gave , and that's just what i like the most touched me, i remember when i said to the military man, i say you never ask how i am, he said, we all have a hard time, and i thought, no, i want to talk, i want to hear how hard you are, i want to share with you too , maybe

you won't hear that it's just difficult, you know, maybe you'll hear some story that will also become a resource for you, eh, and probably so in conclusion, i also want to say that say what hurts you, don't be afraid to say , that you don't have a resource there, don't be afraid to talk about the same fatigue. and here olya corrected me very correctly when we were with yesterday they said, or when they wrote, that this is not fatigue from the war, but that it is actually fatigue during the war. and that's perfectly normal, so i want another from you, we have a few seconds to hear your so, your your so short advice, well i would like to conclude this conversation by saying that if we give the proper response to this fatigue, we don't ignore it, it actually makes it more likely

that we will continue to make value-correct choices. as opposed to when we will pretend for a while that we are not tired and that it is not, and at the end ends, maybe one day we will do some , i know, reactive, some kind of behavior, when everything is fed up, i quit everything, and this is not something that will help us in the long, long distance, so i would like to wish everyone to treat themselves with attention, with kindness , because... we need it now most of all. olga antoshik, a clinical psychologist, a consultant in the method of cognitive-behavioral therapy, was on the i hear you program today, and we talked about fatigue during the war. and i want to finish this program somehow so resourcefully, because fatigue is always like this, we, we

tired, we are tired of the war, and i want to tell you, be honest yourself. with yourself, uh, be honest, because that honesty gives when we're angry, when we're tired, when we're aggressive, take care of yourself, take care of who you hang out with, we're talking a lot now about toxic people, environments, really, like olya said in this program, surround yourself with people who can give you a resource, give you support, give you love , now there are a lot of... now men are not going out, eh, just, just rest, don't close yourself from this world, don't close yourself in guilt and don't

close yourself from fatigue, so i wish you all to find your places of strength in yourself. er in this country and that way we can help even more the armed forces and the soldiers at the front and when they come back here they will have healthy people who can be with them and hear them and receive them, so thank you, you were solomiya chubai, and this is the "i hear you" program. there are discounts representing the only discounts on glicised and gliciset max 20% in the pharmacies of travel bam and savings there are discounts represent the only discounts on mikrolax 20% in the pharmacies of travel bam and savings there are discounts represent

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not discussed, to be honest, but just in ukraine, there are a whole bunch of bloggers who sit around thailand somewhere at balls and again, suddenly together with two deputies close to russian. the orthodox church was born so very synchronously with its absolutely identical posts and statements that it is necessary to immediately, immediately drop everything and run, negotiate with russia, and besides , this was all there, how many people can die, how many that's all, that's why you have to give up, eh, well, you know, in front of all the cries of this whole m... blog of lumpen, let's say it like that , dmitry medvedev, deputy chairman of the security council of the russian federation, actually answered. in the church's manic fast in

telegram, he wrote that the russian federation must prepare to seize the entire territory of ukraine, after moscow and kyiv sign a peace treaty and end the war. if the authorities of ukraine sign the capitulation and give the occupied territories to the russian federation, then writes medvidev. the time will come to finally crush the reptile, that is, ukraine, drive a long steel nail into the lid of the throne of the bandera quasi-state, destroy the remnants of its statehood and return the lands to the land of the lono-russian oce of the russian land, well , this is russia's answer to all these groans about how to negotiate and with whom and about what, and you know, this is actually this answer. and nebenzi's speech, this is the representative of the russian federation at the un, who began waving russian-sponsored telegram channels there and

saying that look, they are writing that these were some kind of wrong rockets, and here they all are, you know, this one is so-and-so the explosion of infogypsyism on the topic of surrender, all this, well , brings us back to... the fact that, in principle, this russian strike on okhmadit, well, firstly, was not accidental at all, and secondly, it was all such a big special operation, moreover , if if we look at what missiles were flying, how they were flying, then we will see a very, you know, remarkable thing, well, first of all, these same kha 101 missiles, which fell on the territory of okhmadit, their russians that day. 12 or 13 were fired, 10 were shot down, two flew by, one of them hit, and you know, there is a big assumption that in fact, if they had not been shot down

so many, that is 11 even shot down, it is possible that not one rocket would have fallen in okhmadit, but more, and if not one rocket had fallen in okhmadit, but more, then of course we would have there would be many more victims, and among them there would be guaranteed to be more children, now it is one. the child who died as a result of this attack, because she was actually threatened, there was an operation, and the child simply did not survive, that is, there is actually one child who they did kill as a result of this attack on the ahmadiyit territory, i no longer i say that they killed children in other places of ukraine on the same day, but it was there that, well, most likely the russians expected and expect... that there will be many more victims, and in principle, before this attack, they were preparing, on the one hand, they prepared their own people there, these paid people, who

for... immediately started shouting about crooked ukrainian air defense. well, you know, if the ukrainian anti-aircraft defense, i repeat once again, had not shot down almost all the missiles that were flying, we would have simply, well, a lot of children killed there. second, this is what the russians were counting on, of course, for all these loaded and paid for, again , all these speeches about the need to run immediately. why i think so, because you know, for any really. nation, it is the largest trauma, when children die, and the russians did it deliberately, they tried to arrange here, you know, such a simply desperate picture with a large number of dead children, it is very difficult for any nation to survive such a thing, and on the one hand, these cries about not being ukrainian air defense, and on the other hand, there were all these cries, if so many children are dying, let's go to peace, and all this, i repeat, was prepared

by russia in advance, and they planned all this, because the rocket that fell there , this x101, it is being programmed, well, still in the process, well let's say a little there, well, not charging, that is , whoever releases it directly on the plane there or somewhere else, he cannot release it in any other way, but it flies exactly where it was programmed, and to say that they are on... tried to aim at some factory in this way, this is all untrue, it is absolutely untrue, because the military facilities there are far enough away, moreover, i will tell you this way that what flew there to artem's factory, which is actually far enough from ahmadit, flew rather to divert attention, because they his they hit this point so often already that there is simply nothing there, there is nothing to talk about, there is nothing to destroy, it is not a military target, there is nothing to destroy there, and they know it very well. that

is, in fact, it was just to distract attention, but what the russians were mainly trying to do was to kill a lot of children, in this way to create an otaku here, you know, a state that would be very good for them, as they think, here are all the cries of bloggers, again after all, i repeat what was prepared in advance, with the fact that you need to run to calm down immediately, and here you see, when to their audience, they directly say, medvedev, that yes, as soon as ukraine does not sign a peace agreement, it is necessary to literally prepare to take over ukraine completely, and again, in the same context, we can say about the way this un security meeting took place, where benji did not speak, but after the un security council meeting, the russians arranged such

a reception, well, they started it. to chair the un security council, and the celebratory dinner for this chairmanship is one of those things were served to the table, there was kiev-style chicken, well you also know very well, such a telling gesture, and let’s be honest, after they bombed ukraine and were going to, i emphasize once again, were going to kill many children, they are serving... stupid in kyiv. why did they arrange this? yes? well, first of all, because the plan, now, the main plan of the russians is to try to incite and destroy ukraine by means of some internal manipulations, and they have actually been talking about this on their tv for a long time and quite frankly, like this. our task now is not to bring a pro-russian leader to ukraine. it's impossible, it won't

happen. our task is to arrange february 17th for them , to make it so that some anti-russian people clash with other anti-russian people. the main thing for us is that the front collapses as a result of this conflict. the most important thing for us is that as a result of this conflict , a quarrel begins within the ukrainian elite. we need the ukrainian regional elites to start negotiating directly with us. we are working on this specifically, systematically. all this shakes up the domestic political situation. our task is not to seize the largest possible number of territories by direct pressure. our task is to make february 17. well, that is, they remember february 17th in russia, when in fact the front collapsed in the first world war and as a result the russian empire collapsed, this is how they imagine how to act in ukraine, and therefore even the russian offensives at the front, this for them it is not the most important thing now, the most important thing is the destabilization of the situation in ukraine, and you see, they say quite openly about this that no no no no no those offensives on the front, the main thing, the main thing is that

these are all ee... well, this infosvoluta in its essence, which...