a difficult time, an important moment, you cannot abandon, leave, lonely, as if people from the lip, that we threw us out of there, and nobody needs us here, the sumy region has the largest border with the aggressor, about 500 km, surrounding villages and towns for the second year now, the russians have been firing artillery just across the state border, with 90,000. 70,000 idps in sumy oblast are intra-regional displaced persons who moved to the depths of the region and only 20,000 from the east and south of ukraine. the situation is similar in kharkiv region, the border with the aggressor state is 315 km long. and despite intelligence warnings about the preparation of a russian offensive, the evacuation of the population from the border began only in the second half of may 2024. literally under fire. currently , in the kharkiv region there are three... and 3,300

immigrants from the kharkiv region itself, and only 67,000 from the luhansk and 64,000 from the donetsk regions. and they all need housing. unfortunately, the availability of rental offers does not cover these needs. they take everything possible, rent, rent, without furniture, without conditions, that is, it is a very big problem that even people with... with a job with they are looking for opportunities to rent housing with money. natalya yesina, coordinator of the ukrainian helsinki union in sumy oblast. for the local authorities, she has long been a burden on her father, constantly demanding housing, work, and social benefits for refugees. the law enforcement officer is convinced that all this is lacking not because of a lack of resources, but primarily because of the indifference of officials. we have cities, villages that are within reach of mortars. 15 km, 10 km, 5 km, this

is the range of mortars, this is the dream of a neighboring country to make a gray zone. we tried to find out if at least we have a temporary housing fund has been created, all this can be thought out if there was a will, if people had a desire. engage in, analyze these programs, accept these programs and work on them, unfortunately, there is no such thing. natalya yesina knows what she is talking about, because she is an immigrant herself, but since the first wave, until the age of 14, she lived in the city of happiness, and worked on regional television in luhansk, after the occupation she moved to sumy. 10 years ago, just like yesina, 1.5 million ukrainians left for unoccupied ukraine. the state was then robbed by yanukovych and

could not provide them with any... help. international organizations of the un did not react either. the main problems fell on the shoulders of local self-government and volunteers. due to the lack of centralized evacuation, the displaced settled on their own, mostly thanks to family ties. they integrated rather quickly and dissolved among the local population. in this way, the first wave became virtually invisible to both western partners and ukrainians. and therefore there was no understanding of the scale of the problems. after the change of power in 2019 in 2016, financing of state housing programs for displaced persons, affordable housing and loans for idps and veterans of the ato stopped. the project of the state fund for the promotion of youth housing construction, together with the federal republic of germany, also turned out to be ineffective. but the real trouble began after the invasion in the year 22. more than 10 million ukrainians moved from their places. someone went to neighboring regions, someone to the west of the country, others - to europe. union or across

the atlantic. the authorities could not understand the depth of the problem, considered it temporary. then, like the second wave of immigrants, it is no longer about migration, and about the demographic crisis, which will turn into a catastrophe without quick and effective actions. what will the government advise the family of soldier dmytro rysay, who is still paying the government a loan for an apartment in occupied mariupol? will the three sons of the artist olga cheromushkina return from germany to ukraine? why are the bytasov immigrants in kyiv considered... and because of this they are not even hired as janitors. serhii and inna betasov spent the first weeks of the war literally underground, in a bomb shelter. their native severodonetsk was at the forefront line the occupiers leveled it to the ground. there were fierce shelling. ran home sometimes to

at least wash there, we thought, well, will we return or not, we didn’t know, all these hailstones, they all flew at us from all sides, all the windows, the whole...

in kyiv, but that’s where their problems lie did not end, how did they behave with the ukrainians who decided not to go over to the side of the occupiers and do the bytasovs regret it, wait. there were beautiful cafes, beautiful, a drama theater, the same beautiful drama theater where we took our children, and there was a puppet theater, philharmonic hall, everything was there in order to live normally, olga yesepchuk so nostalgically recalls the luxurious view from the window of her new apartment in pre-war... mariupol, what is with her house now, who got it, who desecrates its walls, the woman does not know , what happened to mariupol, the whole world knows, this city was flourishing before our eyes

and it was very nice to live in a place that is developing, and we decided to buy an apartment there, our... apartment cost $17, this is a four-room apartment, the sea was visible there, the required amount for the young family did not have the opportunity to buy an apartment, so they turned to the state youth construction promotion fund for help, where they took out a mortgage at 18% per annum, but since the husband is a military man, we did not pay interest, we saw investments, we saw that this ... there was a city where the americans invested a lot of money, where there was a huge factory, and we were sure that he was protecting this city, well, that the city is really safe. the family made the first installment -

uah 60,000 and paid uah 1,700 for the loan amount every month until the sky fell in february 2022 on the ground a week before everything started, we met with a friend, her husband works in the sbu, and we talked about what will happen, what will happen, and she tells me, well , if it happens again, and they are from donetsk , and they lost everything, that's what i'm saying, i don't know, i guess, well, i won't be able to pull myself together, that's why, well, that's what we said, but we were sure, because our men were sure that... " everything will be fine, everything will be fine, and then, well , when we woke up on the 24th, we felt that no, that everything would not be fine, the couple definitely knew that they would not risk the health and

life of their four-year-old daughter, so they quickly began to prepare for evacuation, waited a long time for the husband's brother, who was supposed to take the daughter with her mother to kyiv, and then sometime around noon. we had a flight to our house and to the neighboring house, there is a zhigul tree that was blown away, well, it’s simple, and everyone just left, started to see what was so interesting there, here is some aunt walking with a bucket, collecting shards on the street, although there are departures and arrivals, and she walks and collects fragments, upon arrival at the fourth floor, but the shell did not explode, and we lived on the ninth floor. we were lucky, we managed to escape only on the second attempt, on february 25, together with our neighbors, first to zaporizhzhia, then to germany, and although many people complain about life in a foreign country, everything turned out well for olga, she received a work permit, and was able to earn solid money , that's why

her decision surprised many, what did the woman do so impressively and whether she regretted her decision, we will soon find out. during the first wave, the largest number of idps. in donetsk region, half a million, as well as in luhansk, kharkiv and kyiv regions. during the second wave, kyiv and the region together received more than 600,000 idps. in donetsk region, the same half. almost half a million in kharkiv and dnipropetrovsk regions, about 200 thousand in lviv, luhansk, odesa, poltava, and zaporizhzhya regions. the fundamental difference between the first and second waves of refugees is not only in the number and geography of resettlement. the main point is the resources to support them. if in the 14th year there was no money at all, then after the 22nd part of the refugees were accepted by the western countries. and the rest of those who remained in ukraine they also receive money from the european union. union, so all the social security in our treasury is western money. sociology shows that

ukrainians do not want to return to ukraine not only because of the war, although this is, of course, the main reason. no less important factors include the lack of housing, the reduction of social benefits, abnormal unemployment and no medical care. none of these problems have been solved, none of them even have a program, and precisely because of such irresponsible politics, when money lacks a head, internal idps... more often they either go to the west, or generally return to the occupation, because even though there is their own home and garden, which will not allow them to die of hunger, we must do our best to keep people here, and not send them to go abroad or return to occupation, because, because, because we have to continue to live and for our children with this, well, to build the country, and accordingly, in some way, we have to already... think about it now, because people are the most valuable resource, because after the end of hostilities,

after how will the borders be opened if an internally displaced person, i mean men, they will not see opportunities for themselves to get housing, to find a normal high-paying job, if people do not see this out of these 4.9 million people, how many will turn out to be 1 million, two, three, or maybe all of them will leave ukraine? when we lived here, there was no such, you know, desolation here, but now we rarely come, it’s still far away, well, nothing, something, we do something slowly, but this is so that the grass does not grow even more than it is here, maybe her daughter will plant something, valentyna kholostikh lived most of her life. husband in irpen, near kyiv. they gave birth two children, built a solid two-story

house. my husband worked in the irpinsky car park for 47 years, a bus driver, and i worked in the department of labor and social protection of the population. it was precisely this good fortune earned through hard work and many years that prevented the couple from evacuating in time. it was a pity to throw at will. when the war started, we were invited to leave. who went to kyiv, who went to germany, i have a niece there. but the man did not want to leave. we they sat for a month without electricity, without gas. without communication and without anything, the couple stocked up on

candles, food, fuel, it seemed that the worst was already behind them , the moment of liberation was approaching, but on march 22, 2022 , a russian rocket flew into the yard of the singles, all the shells began to fall very intensively, when the first fell. the house was delayed, the man jumped out, ran to the garage, thought to save at least one car, and then the second one arrived, and sorry, a splinter and everything collapsed, the garage was moved by slabs, and it collapsed. we couldn't even get it because it was already burning you know what a garage is, there is gasoline, there is oil,

there is paint, everything was burning so badly that it was impossible to go there, we tried to save my husband, but we could not, because it was very, very hot, valentina and her daughter natalya were left behind alive, they were in a state of shock, amid shelling and explosions, volunteers evacuated to a safe place. valentina mykolaivna was able to return to irpin only in a month, when the russian troops fled from kyiv, there was nowhere for us to live, my granddaughter. took out, took on rent, a battleship such that there would already be a place to stay, already so it more or less warmed up, and we arrived, lived with her there until november, there was no battle, only the light was on, there was no water, there was no heat, the frosts had already begun, the water

was freezing, and we were cooking outside on pebbles , neighbors gave us dishes, neighbors from work helped, and only the state did not help the family in any way. it has been two years since valentina first submitted documents for housing compensation, the woman is outraged by the negligence of officials, her first application was simply lost, she wrote a second one, and she is still waiting for at least some result. money no, wait, here we are waiting. no one will say that whether it is tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, there is no such thing, it is very difficult, i, i told you what he says, time heals, it does not heal, when i come there, i see this devastation, it is very difficult,

after all, the state she did help, but not her own... someone else's. the woman moved to a modular town built by poles and finns. they now live here with their daughter. while the state is looking for money to compensate for what it promised in its laws. the story of this family has already attracted the interest of the office of the commissioner for citizens victims of aggression. this story about this woman from irpen is very surprising. we can take her to frame this case and see what it has to do with it. we will definitely do it. will give us the surname , patronymic, address. we will deal with this case. we have to admit that the main problem is not so much a lack of money as a lack of humanity and elementary professionalism. the officials who deal with idp affairs, from eight to five, are completely indifferent to the problems of the displaced persons. i can't stand this word idp. our journalists turned to interviewers, to profilers vice-prime minister, minister of social policy, heads of the state employment service,

the recovery agency and a number of other structures that should take care of refugees. they wanted to give them a specific one. history and to understand what the government plans to do next, whether there will finally be some kind of strategy and understanding of how these people can live on, but in response there is a deaf wall of misunderstanding, no one is going to explain anything, at most they managed to write off formal letters. the only place where so far it is possible to force the government to a public report is the parliament. it would seem a simple question, how our schools will work from the fall in conditions of energy collapse, but it is clear from the answer of the minister of education that as god wills. in our country, about 30% of educational institutions are provided with generation, in extreme cases we will return to mixed or online education in some peak difficult periods, that is, in the fall and winter, the authorities may provoke another wave of migration from ukraine, because in the absence of normal educational conditions, parents simply will take their children abroad, and the promise to provide them with online

education generally looks like a cheap spectacle, because it was the government that consistently destroyed this form of education. hundreds of thousands of children abroad are already without access to the ukrainian school curriculum. i went into detail about this diversion in the previous film. and here is the story of the isepchuk family, which escaped from mariupol to germany on february 25, 2022. this is precisely about the true attitude of our authorities towards refugees. olga yasebchuk could easily live in germany on €1,000 in social assistance, which the germans provided for her and her daughter. but the woman was not used to looking into someone's mouth. we left. how decent ukrainians are at the factory packages were packed, boxes were put together, it was a great practice in english, german, any other language you want, 12 € per hour, here we had about 700 €, well, in a month, i learned german up to the baines level and confirmed my

diploma, they even gave me permission to work as an accountant in germany, close to... it would be possible to earn, it would seem that life has been successful, there is a well-paid job, and in time the right to german citizenship will appear, but olga makes an unexpected decision, the husband is here and the child is also here, well, with father to see it's clear, that's why we decided to return to ukraine, olga sepchuk's story is a good answer to skeptics who don't believe that ukrainians will return from abroad, and here... you could put a full stop, because here it is a happy ending, but the woman is not even she imagined what trials the heartless bureaucratic machine would cost her. initially, olga's idp payments were taken away, because her husband is a military serviceman. earns more than uah 900, and the second blow was dealt by officials of the state fund for the promotion of youth construction, they don't care what the family lost apartment due to the occupation of mariupol, they

don't care about everything, they demand that the family still pay the mortgage for this lost apartment, and even more than that, they changed the legislation regarding the social protection of the military, and according to this legislation, we will now be forced to pay more and interest, we paid only the body of the loan. and now we will be forced to pay 5-6 00, including interest. we do not think so, the husband defends ukraine at the front, the wife left a comfortable life in germany, their daughter will grow up ukrainian, not german, but the state forces to pay them for the crimes of the russians, for the apartment stolen by the occupiers. isn't that absurd? this is an additional evidence that the state simply does not have a strategy for returning people, and ukrainians are very aware of such indifference, which is why they have not believed for a long time. with ritual assurances and beautiful words, we need to talk about meanings, about something that will become

unique, that will become the ukrainian dream, that will be an unconditional magnet that will make us stay here and make others come back here in order to restore our country. nothing is done to return people abroad, absolutely nothing, well, because people assimilate into that society and they understand that they are not even welcome here, but because they have nothing, and upon arrival they cannot come to a bare place, it seems to me, that our government and the president see only the top, which is shown to them, if we... don't have people, then we, well, this, there is no one to build all this for, and who will be left here, in the specific situation of the yasypchuk family we

will manage to find a way out, on their side the european convention on human rights, there it is clearly stated that the property must be protected inviolable, and needs it, it is the state that must protect this property, and therefore the family of a serviceman should not pay any interest or loans, the mechanism for appealing such... exists, the office of the ombudsman promises to help in this matter. also, a person can come to us and we will take care of protecting their rights, they have to stop payments, any payments, and we can help them with that. there are discounts representing the only discounts on trokvas inn 15% in travel pharmacies for you to save. the book of women at war. a joint project of the tv channel. esso and publishing houses duhi lettera. the book is based on the reports of the presenter of the espresso tv channel khrystyna parubiy. 20 stories, 20 fates, 20 women who

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kholodny yarik brigade. in the direction of time the authorities do not want to hear from activists dealing with refugee issues. it ignores the experience of countries such as georgia, azerbaijan, moldova, and croatia, which developed effective practices during the war. likewise, the government and the president's office are indifferent to the expert proposals that we prepared a year ago. in moldova, after the russian-inspired war in transnistria in 1992, 130,000 immigrants appeared, but... in 2000, only 800 of them remained, in in 2002, a thousand. after 2005, the concept of refugees in moldova disappeared altogether from the reports of international organizations. experts noted the effectiveness and efficiency of the actions of the moldovan authorities, which integrated people and generally solved their problems. for example, a maximum five-year period was established, according to which the displaced persons were to be provided with their own housing. until then, the state

paid them rent for apartments. and hotels. in 2004, a program was opened under which idps received an interest-free mortgage loan for 25 years old. if a person participated in hostilities, the state paid off half of the mortgage. today, ukrainians and the state must solve this by developing some kind of program, some kind of strategy, because this is where everything starts. we have to understand how many people need this, because someone, i don't know, came from his... his town and already bought a home and got a job, is he an idp or not? how long will he be in vpo? a year, two, five, what factors will indicate to us that this person is no longer an idp? maybe it will be like in georgia, where this right is inherited. after the war in abkhazia in the early 1990s, 240,000 people became refugees in georgia, which is about 6% of the entire population of the country. after

the russian-georgian war of 2008. another 20 thousand. in total , 308,000 idps are registered in georgia, with a population of 3,700,000. back in 1992, a government committee was established in georgia, and since 1996, a separate ministry has been responsible for forcibly displaced persons from the occupied territories of resettlement and refugees. the specificity of the georgian experience is a very close interaction ministries with civil society. documents prepared by government officials are agreed by the leader. idp communities. in this way , feedback is achieved. in order to solve the housing problem for a long time , a strategy on idp issues, an action plan for its implementation, rules and criteria were adopted. one of the solutions was granting the right to privatize living space in collective centers, building cottage towns, buying apartments from developers, mortgage lending and subsidies. of course, in georgia, and in moldova,

and even in wealthy croatia, it still remains. many problems, but in each of these countries there is the most important thing - a map on which they move. i have been calling on the government for a year to write a realistic and concrete action plan. he initiated the creation of a ministry that would deal with demography. i called it the ministry of love. of course, this is a creative name, but it does not change the essence. by the way, croatia recently did just that. the ministry of demography, family and youth was formed. this successful balkan country is currently experiencing a deep demographic crisis. the birth rate is the lowest there. 100 years, by the way, how and in ukraine this year, the so-called fertility rate was 0.8, it looks like 0.8 children per woman. for a nation to recover, it needs at least 2.1. the croatian demographic crisis is a consequence of both the war and accession to the eu. and ukraine must now think about what to do after the end of the war, when the borders in europe will be opened. as one of the decisions that our country should make,

now, ours is possible. rulers, they must launch a program of mass construction of social housing, because if people will not to have housing here in ukraine, they will not stay in our country, if young people do not see an opportunity to purchase or receive an apartment from the state, then they will not have children here, they will leave the country. i am very afraid, and so are our foreign partners. also, shouldn't they expect the next wave of ukrainian migrants already in the fall, and how does the government see the demographic policy of ukraine, first of all, what is being done today, in particular, so that this new wave of refugees does not occur, so that women with children do not leave? thank you, for today, just right the ministry of social policy is working on the issue of demographic strategy, and in order to make our mood more creative and inspire us to such broad reflections.