what will we do, where to run, where to deposit the money in which bank, you understand, but here again, tell us about this, what to do with the money, dear ukrainians, this is not the first default in recent years, the first threat was in the 14th year, essentially the second default, in the 18th year there were problems. in fact, we had a default in the 22nd year, therefore, as our third president of the little ukrainian said, a possible default will not have any effect on the life of the average person, therefore, as the now unpopular professor preobrazhenskyi said, do not read soviet newspapers before dinner, yes, and here, don't read the hype headlines and don't get carried away by such negative information that some so-called economists have now started spreading, everything will be fine, okay. that now exceeded 41 hryvnias?

well, we have a dollar in the current economic situation, it is completely administrative, how much does the national bank and the ministry of finance need, how much does he say, you understand, we need more hryvnias, but they raised them, they will need to lower them less, don’t worry, it’s more for imports and if it is raised, no, no, it, it is raised in order to pay the internal payments, we finance salaries. state employees, pensions, pensioners from the funds given to us by our international partners, you understand that when for 1 million dollars at the exchange rate of 40, it is 40 million uah, and when it is 42, then it is already 42, ideally the ministry of finance wanted, so that the exchange rate would be 50, well , the national bank, which is responsible for inflation, is already saying: stop, stop, stop, guys, let's not inflate inflation, because then we won't stop, so what's up with andrii, how much depends on internal problems. it is necessary to pay the salaries and pensions

of teachers, doctors, state employees, cleanly the regulation is not economic, administrative , yes, it just turns out to be such a conditional tax from which you cannot but bend down and hide, because the prices will react to it, absolutely, that is why they do not release it, i say, the ministry of finance would have preferred without a million dollars, not 40 million hryvnias, but 50 million, he would then formally pay it easier, but you are right... he says, but after that retail prices will rise by the same percentage, and you and i will not be able to buy the same thing for the same amount of money the amount of goods that we buy now, well, but we treat it that way of course, with understanding, mr. mykhailo, thank you very much for this conversation, as always, i like the conversation with mr. mykhailo, because we seem to be talking about the economy, but also about values ​​and about what is important and eternal, because the economy, it always stands on cultural values, marx was 100%, 100% wrong. unfortunately,

cultural values ​​also shape the economy, so thank you for this conversation, we wish you a calm and easy journey to ukraine, mykhailo nepran, first vice-president of the chamber of commerce and industry of ukraine, who is currently in the czech republic on a business trip and joined us, was with us, dear friends, i want to say that we still have a marathon ahead of us until the 17th, we are working, i want to thank our viewers who, despite what we say here , how someone somewhere somewhere arranges a wedding for... money will still be donated to the army and understand that our military should not suffer because of some scoundrels, stay with espresso, ether continues and we work for you. toblisko is close to politics, close to the world. maria gurska, journalist of the eu tv channel and portal and pavel koval, chairman of the committee on

foreign affairs of the polish diet and chairman of the council for cooperation with ukraine. i congratulate you. congratulations. a russian missile in smegolipts. on july 8 , a russian missile hit the okhmat-dyt children's hospital in kyiv. during the shelling of the capital , doctors, children and adults died. what is the purpose of this brutal attack by putin and what will be the response of the civilized world? on the eve of the civilized holiday of russia. i found out about the shelling when exactly. president zelenskyi's visit to warsaw began, it was a chord that showed that polish-ukrainian a security agreement makes even more sense. it is impossible to get used to this war. when you talk to people in the west, sometimes you get the impression that some people think that this war can be used. the attack on the hospital on monday was a signal to which it is impossible to get used. ukraine should get a strengthened military... okhmatd from

caring for the mother and the child in poland. in ukrainian, the child and oh from the guard. the russian missile that hit the children's hospital contains a significant amount of western components. the financial times writes that it is a missile can contain, such a missile can contain up to 50 western elements in its composition, including parts from the united states and switzerland. we see that western sanctions are not working because russia is actually circumventing them by getting components from china and other countries in the south and asia. before that, viktor orban was used.

it should be noted that after the visits orban gave an interview to the german press, with which he scared people, he said exactly what putin expected. let's recall what exactly orbán said. well, he said, you'll see what happens in the coming months, it's going to be terrible, even it is hard to imagine that he said something like that in this interview, and these are stories straight from the kremlin. he said these would be the bloodiest months. the worst months, and it sounded in the same orchestra with the attacks, so the element of fear was very strong here. but there is one point in your question that i would like to expand on, i absolutely do not agree that exactly... the specificity of sanctions is that they are effective somewhere and not somewhere, they need to

be constantly improved, because the other side is constantly trying to go around i have already read a few scientific papers to find out how it works, all significant sanctions imposed on... criminal totalitarian regimes had the characteristic that the regimes behaved like a virus. the virus is preparing for new types of drugs, for medical inventions. and sanctions are the medicine. russians are learning to deal with them. we must be careful that they do not manage to circumvent the restrictions. the sanctions game is always about that. if we see that components are still being supplied from the west, we need to block it. there have already been 14 of these sanctions packages, and european institutions are constantly working on their improvement. art is to identify the weak. places and press, press, press, but the sanctions system is such that you need to tighten it all the time, it cannot be done once, especially in the case of such a large country as russia. mr. recalled those words of viktor, you

mentioned the words of viktor orbán, prime minister of hungary, what do you think vladimir putin is planning now and what place does orbán's voyage occupy in these plans, which we analyzed in the last program, then orbán. .. unexpectedly left kyiv for moscow and pyongyang, left kyiv for moscow, puzhny - i did not trust him for a moment. some people said, maybe this, maybe that, it was immediately clear to me that orbán is playing a role that he believes. in the history of hungary, this has already happened, for example, as it happened during the second world war with milos hortia, the hungarian leader at the time. he also had a very good story, like orbán, a good historical map, but he ruined everything because he started. cooperation with the germans and de facto plunged hungary into a series of misfortunes. for me, orban is the same new horti, which seeks understanding, relies on his own dexterity, works against the western world. in this particular situation, he clearly worked for propaganda purposes. let's see what he did, he went to moscow and pretended there

that he was the president of the european council, that is , as if he was speaking on behalf of all of europe. when this failed, he began to pretend to be a representative of ukraine, because before that he was in ukraine, so that it would look as if he had brought it. sees because he analyzes the situation. probably, a heartless person will say what he feels wrong, so he sees that the kharkiv offensive failed in the sense that the ukrainians received western weapons, ammunition and the ability to hit targets in russia. the russians are not in

a position to fully attack kharkiv, speaking from their point of view, they cannot do it . i'm not talking about capturing kharkiv, they won't be able to take kharkiv effectively. the kharkiv offensive failed, at least that's how it looks at the moment. in fact, in mid-july , there is no chance to conquer kharkiv this year, so what was planned for this year ended with little progress at the front. it russian promotion, of course. dangerous, but in fact it is happening at a snail's pace, one might say, with snail's paces, little by little , kilometer by kilometer, it is dangerous, because as a result it exhausts ukraine, but it is of course impossible to conquer ukraine in this way, because it would take 100 years to conquer, so they something else is needed, and for now they have adopted this snail method and it works to some extent, although it does not give chances to achieve strategic or medium-term goals, it is especially obvious in the context of the summit. from this point in my opinion, biden's answer was good, although i believe that the ukrainians should have received more,

they should receive a clear promise of the opening of nato and the start of negotiations, specific programs of accession. now there is no such thing, but there are some good promises for ukraine, which, unfortunately, is only half of what is desired, personally i am not completely satisfied, because i see how the consequences affect putin. the west should be more consistent, because this is the only way to effectively remove putin. putin and now regarding orbán himself, can hungary have intensive care, oncohematology, otelingology and others destroyed or currently unsuitable for treating children, providing them with assistance and... rehabilitation. it is known that in okhmadity there were children from the shelled cities and regions, from the same

kharkiv, from other cities, with terrible injuries, children who lost their limbs, they were helped there by doctors with golden hands, and now different countries have promised help. what has poland proposed and will children who have lost the opportunity to be treated at home be able to receive help from eu ukraine in poland, at least temporarily. an opportunity will deliver help to okhmadyche, temporarily at least as a stepfather. i conveyed information on behalf of our prime minister that we can accept some of the children, i am in contact with the ministry of health, which in turn is in contact with hospitals that could accept sick children. we also have a group of doctors on site who could transfer the children. now there is a question of chitsaki, now the question is whether the children really want to come, whether their parents will agree to it, transferring a sick child is not such an easy task. so... we are currently waiting for answers, if not, we will help in other ways. but i would like

to point out that there is a group of doctors, a special team that helps in crisis situations. this team reports directly to the prime minister, i work with them in the prime minister's office. today, they are conducting operations on the ground in ukraine, and this is another one of several dozen special point-and-target missions performed by them. this is a group of special doctors called to solve various extraordinary situations. in today's reality, there are nine. out of 10 are ukrainian problems, i consider it important to talk about them, because many people do not know about them, they have already traveled to ukraine dozens of times, transported specific, special equipment, they bring only the equipment that is especially necessary in a particular hospital, for example, equipment for operating rooms, medical equipment, for resuscitation, in addition, they stay physically and perform these operations, provide medical assistance for some time, usually several weeks. we have such a team, and today it is in ukraine, if necessary will be able to support the transportation of children, this information was passed on to...

on one of the upper floors of that building, which the whole saw on july 8. the world with windows blown out by the blast wave as a result of a russian rocket hitting the hospital of the ukrainians of nashchenshchiv that night, when we stayed in okhmaditsa, there was also shelling, smaller in scale, all the rockets were fortunately shot down by ukrainian air defense, and drones were shot down, but we still saw the shelling from these large panoramic windows overlooking the city, they saw flashes when russian missiles and drones were shot down by our anti-aircraft. it was terrible, and

i personally experienced this july attack from warsaw with all my heart, because when i saw a woman who was pulled out from under the rubble, covered in concrete dust with a bloody face, i thought that it could have been me, i saw myself in her . and when i read about the children who were killed by the russians, i thought about my own children. this cannot be tolerated, and at the same time russia... chairs the un security council. how is that possible? i will add a fact, a detail that our polish viewers may not have heard about. at lunch organized russia. the day after the shelling of kyiv, the un security guard offered cutlets in the kyiv style on the menu. this is the height of cynicism. was there such a dinner? so. so, at a lunch organized by russia, as ukraine presiding over the un security council, the guests were offered kyiv-style cutlet. this happened less than a day after the shelling of ohmaddit. how to expel russia

from the united nations. security council. it's not that simple, i like answers like this where i can tell if something is simple or not, so it's not just global noon, most of the countries that are in the un, these are, as they say now, the countries of the global south, often small countries that in one way or another depend on russia and do not understand the conditions in which it operates, so here i believe that, first of all, you need to do everything possible, when it comes to the un, which is to increase the seriousness of the organization on the part of the eu's western partners, then what we have to do is to ... see in the un a platform on which we can achieve our goals, because sometimes i feel that everyone has given up, let down hands, only from time to time ask the question, how throw out russia? and when they understand that russia cannot be simply thrown away, they give up. i think our big job is to work with the smaller countries as well as

the important countries of the south. i watched with horror as the prime minister of india modi went to visit moscow, it was very. i will say for our polish part of the audience what ukrainians know, because it is important. the shots that are incredibly inspiring are people, thousands of kyivans, residents of the capital, who went out to disassemble the ruins of the destroyed hospital, handed over water, medicine, antibiotics, bandages, everything that was needed, the whole city was there, and it's really inspiring in the third year of the war. when people are so tired, it gives faith that we will rebuild this country and make it a thousand times better. mobilization of ukrainians, we know when it comes to the mobilization of ukrainians, i have my own impressions after all my visits to kharkiv, lviv, as well as from the last visit related to the anniversary

of volyn. in addition to the official part, i had the opportunity to visit lutsk and volyn and everywhere else i was not there, i was visited by thoughts about how in... ukrainians endure all these trials of war, how they cope with trauma. books will soon be written about this incredible power of a nation that exists despite enormous problems, despite mobilization problems, despite ammunition supply problems, this power is visible everywhere. poles who survived the warsaw uprising understand ukrainians like no other nation, and what we feel and how powerfully we rebel against...

helped. at the nato summit, i saw that ukraine's position has somewhat strengthened. president zelenskyi, i saw him in warsaw before leaving for washington, he was happy about the polish-ukrainian defense agreement, the security agreement, although i saw that everyone, everyone has already accepted that it is impossible to open nato at this summit. unfortunately, this did not happen, but an additional financial package for ukraine became possible, and there was recognition in the final document that ukraine is an integral

part of the nato family and will be a member of nato. i think that this is paradoxically putin's brutality. except for the entry and invitation to nato, which unfortunately, ukraine did not receive, for the first time, it received a firm guarantee of a bridge to the north atlantic alliance. true, there are several elements. however, better anti-missile and anti-aircraft defense could have prevented the attack on ohmadite. now ukraine protects the sky with four patriot systems. at the nato summit, us president biden promised five. additional patriot systems, but as explained by military experts, four of them were promised earlier, they will not be provided by italy, the netherlands, romania and germany, and only one system will be provided by the united states.

and this is directly related to the protection of the sky, it is a paradox, the pictures after the bombings mobilize ukrainians, but putin also has his goals and these goals are fear, as well as driving

people away from ukraine so that they fear ukraine. he wants to make ukraine a scorched earth, this cannot be allowed. it is necessary to go to ukraine, not to let putin lock ukraine in a gray zone. putin probably knows this mechanism, he knows that when he attacks, fear arises, photos after the shelling spread all over the world, and the position of ukraine weakens, this cannot be allowed, you need to launch business projects no matter what. of ukraine. the gentleman mentioned the visit of the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi. you mentioned the visit of ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky to warsaw. on july 8, there was a meeting with the prime minister of poland, donald. will poland shoot down russian missiles in the ukrainian sky and do you believe in

the effectiveness of the ukrainian legion? as of today, we see information that several thousand ukrainians have expressed their desire to undergo military training in poland. military on polish fields. when it comes to shooting down missiles, it's... a question not only for poland, to be honest , i don't really like it when someone asks as if everything depends on poland. if everything depended on poland, in the first days after february 22, we sent all the weapons from all over europe to ukraine, the history of this war is the history of how the poles said, let's give more, even though they themselves are in a difficult situation, because today we is actually a front-line state for russia. so this is not about asking us if. will we do it or not, because everything depends not only on us, the western world works differently, together with us you can convince western partners, make decisions, and we really do it. in

any case, whoever is interested knows. the second topic is legion. the polish government, i firmly believe, cannot replace the ukrainian government. recruiting, mobilization is the business of the ukrainian government, but we can help in some aspects, and this was achieved in the security agreement. we provide the territory with opportunities in accordance with international law all the necessary support in poland there are several hundred thousand people who could b to join the army in accordance with ukrainian legislation. i believe that many people do not join the army for psychological reasons, because they are afraid of something, have some internal fears. the idea with a legion is better than attracting them by force to frighten them, because it gives the opportunity to be in the army, having traveled a longer way to the front. or not only to the front. one of the first messages that those who join the legion receive is that they have a variety of possible supports. today, ukraine needs various

forms of support in military matters, not only on the front line. so i think it's very valuable. if it was successful in poland, it could become possible in other countries where there are many ukrainians who could join the army, and this is a great idea, because it is such a soft entry into the military structure that takes place on the territory regarding security. of course, as you and i just talked about, the eastern border of poland is vulnerable, but still, here you can safely go through, let's say, an emotional quarantine, i think it will help many. quarantine, emotional. thanks for this one program, about politics, about the world. pavel koval, maria gurska. watch us in polish on pavel koval's youtube channel, in ukrainian on the espresso tv channel, and read eu sisters in both languages. thank you. thank you.

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