the candidate of state television in france will be in touch with us and we will talk about the consequences of these elections, about how the situation is developing, now we congratulate mr. maria, congratulations, so what is happening now, how does emmanuel macron deal with the parliament , in which no one has a majority. there is complete chaos, in my opinion, france is beginning an era, probably the most unstable politically in the last 10 years to be exact. macron has a feeling that he is a little detached from reality, and for a long time he could not accept the results of these elections, first of all, he was silent for a long time, a relatively long time, we found out the results last sunday, the president only addressed the french on wednesday and he did not do it in a televised address as usual, he wrote a letter that was then released to the press, and in this letter he says, that no party won, that is a fact, but he does... he also

hints that the government should be formed by republican forces, and by this he, well , actually points to the unconquered, this is an ultra-right, ultra, excuse me, ultra-left party , which belongs to the alliance of left forces, and yes, it is an integral part of it, because they took the most seats, such as the ultra-left, the ultra-left party within this alliance, and macron in his letter... actually rejects the possibility of their participation in the future government, and this is a very big problem , because in fact france finds itself in a situation where there is no one to really lead, no party has this magical number of 289 seats, and therefore france has weeks, if not months, ahead of it, well such very serious ones, well, first the french will go on vacation, but with. .. and that

laws will be passed, the country cannot end simply because the country will not function, this is now the scenario we are approaching, in principle, how will this situation develop in the non-functioning of the country, that is, there will be no government, who will lead the country then, the scenario is as follows : now, in any case, until july 18. the national assembly must start on july 18 , the first, the first plenary session of the new assembly, at which the president of the national assembly must be elected, and from this date the moment when france needs the government seems to have two weeks to form the first proposal, and the olympics are starting in the country, that is, it is also a very specific moment to postpone the formation of the government until september or august.

difficult, so you need to decide quickly, and the calendar now is that the alliance of the left forces, which came as a result of the race , is still the first, even if they do not have an absolute majority, they have 182 deputies, this is the best if the largest number , they have to offer macron a person on position of prime minister, so far neither the leftists nor macron can agree among themselves. does not express much enthusiasm for the next prime minister to be someone from the left. the second scenario is if macron decides, macron has 168 seats in parliament, his forces have 45, the republicans have 45. he can unite with the republicans, they will not have the magic number of 289 either, but will have more than the left alliance. it is technically possible to do this and macron's government can do it. with republicans, but

the legitimacy of this government if you imagine ministers from republicans, of whom only 45 seats, well, this is a very illegitimate government, because , well, the french voters obviously slapped the republicans, they said: here you have 45 seats, this is many times less than before, so if it was not, well, such a scenario is quite specific, so macron is waiting, he is waiting for proposals from the left forces, and they are quarreling among themselves over... what tradition and cannot offer a name yet , well, that is, i understand that the left was able to unite among themselves only in order to stop the far-right, that's all, their understanding ended, absolutely, and the most problematic part of this alliance still remains the unconquered, it is the party of jean-luc mélenchon, who in france is considered a radical left-wing politician by his statements, by his ideology, by... his, well, traditionally historical

interests and closeness to venezuela, closeness to putin, this is quite such an odious figure, which in france evokes a lot of emotions and very... little compromise, and it is the role of the invincibles in the left alliance that plays the role of a lighter that ignites all discussions, it is impossible to get rid of the invincibles, because they have 74 seats out of the 182 seats of the entire alliance, 59 seats of the socialists, that is, it is the largest party in the ranks of the left alliance, it is very difficult to ignore them just like that, while the voters still... gave them these mandates, and this is where the biggest conflict is right now, both among the leftists themselves and in the relationship between macron and the left alliance, so the figure who will be offered the position of prime minister must be a compromise, and

so far there is no such name, because they cannot come to an agreement, because the unconquered block all proposals from the socialists and the greens, and the green socialists are blocking. proposals from the unconquered, and the worst thing about this is that it frees the hands of le pen, who sits idly and waits for 2027, because the left has failed again, macron has failed again, and 2027, why not now give a chance to le pen, who at least they do not quarrel with anyone in their political ranks, they have a very clear policy, everyone understands what they want to achieve, so these creatures play into their hands. primarily the far-right in france, i understand that macron would like to negotiate with the left without mélenchon, right, without mélenchon's party, but then he doesn't have a majority either, right, arithmetically, or there is, well, he doesn't have a majority either, and the problem is that you can't negotiate with the left without

mélenchon, because the voting was done by an alliance, the french, who gave their strength for candidates, for candidates from the left forces on the ground in every single... district, even if in their district the candidacy was from the invincibles, they voted for the left, even without agreeing, perhaps, with the entire policy of the invincibles, so just like that take and to throw out the political power from the alliance formed before the vote, it will be unprecedented for france, that is why these negotiations have been going on for so long and they cannot come to an agreement, because if it was so simple to throw out the invincibles, maybe everything would have happened much easier, but the issue is reputational, the question of trust in the voters, the question that if the left alliance is behaving like this now, will the french voters trust it in the future, it is not so simple, and , well, besides, if you execute the invincibles,

you have to calculate mathematically, but it seems in there will not be an absolute majority of them either, so what happens is, at first after the first round they said macron announced the election and lost, after the second... you see, he won, now again, when they started, the formation of power begins, again he is on the verge of losing, maybe what other options to win? personally, macron himself has not lost in the sense that he remains president until 2027, to implement international policy, which is his prerogative, he can continue and i have a theory that this is exactly what he is focusing on now, because this frustration of domestic politics, which under any... scenario, is not beneficial to him, well, that is, he will not be able to push the laws that he wants to push, because it is banal, even if there is an alliance with the left, they will have to negotiate, they will have to to make compromises, and he will not be able to continue to introduce everything he wants to introduce in france internally, foreign

policy remains, israel, gaza, ukraine remain, and we know that macron is a very ambitious politician, and he, well, somewhere sees in himself this mission, this vi'. international politics, the international arena, in which he has to play an important role, and this is exactly what he will be doing in the coming years, which is good news for ukraine, but even for this he needs, if not a functional parliament, then at least a functional cabinet of ministers, he needs good, good, it is implied, obedient, ready to follow his line, the minister of defense, he needs an obedient minister of europe and foreign affairs. and it is these questions that are also being raised now and they are extremely important if it is to be a representative of the left forces, there are no major differences on foreign policy issues, unless it is a candidate of the disaffected, some very specific one, who is in favor of

sending less weapons to ukraine, this may happen, but for now, from those, if, from those names , which appear in the media, yet someone... more moderate is planned for the positions of europe and defense, because this is an important, important priority for france. if we talk about the far-right, how are they now enduring this defeat of theirs, they were clearly sure that they will be able to form a government. what is happening in your environment? there was a moment of shock, there was a moment of unequivocal shock, misunderstanding, not so much as it happened, very big frustration, all polls told them what would happen, the only question was, would there be an absolute majority or a simple majority, so the shock was very strong , but the specificity of the national front of the far right in france is that, unlike the left, they are very mobilized and they are very... stick together, in fact, they stick together and know how to think strategically,

this party is not, it is a large party, but 90% of the people are very, very young politicians who are representatives of public society, they are people who joined the ranks of the far right because of some ideological beliefs, and only 10 percent, it is like that a skeleton of people who have been in the party for quite many years, and among themselves they all... clearly know where they need to go, and this is the year 2027, they are already thinking ahead, they already know that it is good, we have lost this battle, but we will win the war and for them the next landmark is 2027 year, and just then we also see that they are also focusing on europe quite seriously, recently we learned that the far-right french will join viktor orbán's group, which forms a force that has already become... the third largest in the european parliament in terms of numbers, this force thanking, especially thanking to the national association of marin

lipena, so that there would be no third force, absolutely, absolutely, and that is why it is noticeable from these elections, from these strategic steps, that they are already thinking one step ahead, they already understand that it is a lot a large number of issues will be resolved at the european level, it's migration, it's gas, it's ukraine, it's energy, it's a lot of questions that... which are of interest to lpn voters, and they understand, well, we don't have bol's field in the national assembly, enough, we will still be able to express our opinions a little there, veto, put, not vote for laws, but now let’s focus on diversifying, so to speak, our assets, there is also the european parliament, why did we forget about it, come on remember, here we are there is also an opportunity to play such serious, serious cards, that's why... this party, no matter what we think about it and no matter how much we may not agree with its ideology, organizationally,

they win, and are much more united , than macron's party, which, by the way , is also now quarreling on a large number of issues, not to mention the alliance of left forces. and what will be the fate of gabriel atal, when the prime minister of france, who, as i understand, is forced to leave his post after a short stay, you considered him such a real star of political life france, that now he... will lead just a fraction of macron's party in the parliament? it wasn't really supposed to lead macron's faction. he was the only candidate, they voted for him, he heads the faction. this is not, this is a rollback of his political career, let's say, he will not grow exponentially to the position of president, a little slower, but he does not disappear from politics, he very clearly guessed the moment when to distance himself from macron. i was impressed by his speech after the announcement. election results, to which he said: "i don't chose this vote, but i refused

to be a victim of it, and i led our political force to a result that is a decent result, better than we hoped, and by that he, he showed a certain distance with emmanuel macron, and he will grow, i am convinced of this, as an individual strong politician, because he has proven himself seriously, very solidly before the french. and at the debate he grew many times, and uh the fact that he remains in the parliament and he will be the leader of the faction, this is only a game in his favor, it can suspend his development a little, and he is no longer a favorite against macron, because macron now has problems of a completely different scale, but i still believe in his political career, because his popularity among the french is higher than macron's , at least, well, in other words, we can actually say that when the next... presidential elections are held, the far-right candidate we know is marine le pen and the far-left candidate we know is jean-luc melenchaud,

nothing will change, and these are the same people who were opponents of macron, two election cycles in a row, in the situation with what we see now in, if you will in the political life of france, if we talk about the centrists, then we will ... we will be dealing with a new candidate, because the macron term is over, yes absolutely, it will be either macron's candidate, or edouard philippe, the former mayor. who now belongs to the centrist group and has a very strong voice that also distances itself from macron. he, for example, advocates an alliance with the republicans, for a complete rejection of the left alliance and for such pushing minority government, but with centrists with classic right-wing forces. edouard philippe is serious about 2027, but

macron's successor in the sense that macron will say that my successor... philippe, i'm telling you to vote for him, this scenario will probably not happen, because they were very dissolved in their time too. thank you, thank you for this story, we also thank maria oleksiiev, journalist, employee of the state television channel in france, and now we will move from france to india, we will talk on our air with alina hrytsenko, doctor of philosophy in political science, chief consultant of the national institute of strategic studies. so, ms. alina, congratulations. good evening. well, let's talk about this visit to the fashion rendering of fashion in kyiv. tell me, please, if the results of this, to kyiv, to moscow, what am i talking about, to moscow, if the results of this visit are summarized?

well, yes, i haven't reached kyiv yet, unfortunately, on a rendremod. well, let's hope in fact, regarding the results of the visit to moscow, in principle, modi managed to achieve all the tasks, that he could implement all the tasks he set before himself, the main one of which was to reach an agreement with putin regarding indian citizens who were fraudulently recruited into the russian army and sent to the war against ukraine, modi managed to reach an agreement with putin regarding , so that all indian citizens who have already been recruited should be sent home. the second task was to continue bilateral cooperation in the field of energy, since in india the construction of the country's largest kudan kulam nuclear power plant in the south is currently ongoing. in the south of india in the state of tamil nadu, and it is

russian companies that are engaged in the construction and commissioning of all power units, that is, cooperation in the field of nuclear energy. and the third is military-technical cooperation, because russia india continues to cooperate with russia in this area, even before the start of a full-scale invasion, russia was supposed to supply the indians with s-300s, which they put on the line of actual control with pakistan and china, and plus they they have a joint project, these are brahmos missiles, which the indians already sell, in particular, in particular the philippines, although at the same time india has an understanding in india. that russia cannot be particularly relied on in this area today, and india is now very actively rearming at the expense of more powerful players in the market, for example, at the expense of israel and france, but in general, in the context of indian interests, this visit can be called successful for india, for narendra modi. it can be said that narendra modi is primarily

trying to communicate with putin in order to somewhat, let's say, reduce the weight of the russian-chinese strategic partnerships you can say so to a certain extent, however, i think that modi has an understanding that reducing the intensity of russian-chinese cooperation, today, is a very difficult task, because russia is completely reorienting its economy to china, here it is important for india to reduce, reduce cooperation between russia and pakistan, especially in the military-technical field, in the defense field, because even before the start of a full-scale invasion, pakistan together with russia, they even participated in'. training, and on the territory of russia, on moltkino polygons, and here for india there is a rather serious risk of the formation of a kind of triangle islamabad, moscow, beijing, for india it is a rather serious challenge to national security, therefore russia continues to be the focus of india's attention, including on such political issues, not only at the expense of china, and at the expense of pakistan. and

why would putin make such gestures towards fashion, as, say, demobilize these indian citizens there. who ended up in the russian army, most likely here russian propaganda would be able to twist it into such a such a narrative that russia is supported in this war, including by other parties and other countries, not only by africans or the dprk, but also by indians, not only by indians , but also by nepalis , and in in nepal, this story with the deaths of nepali citizens on the... front caused a greater and wider resonance than in india, in particular, that's why here exclusively, i think that then i did not really control these processes, but russian propaganda twists. exactly in this way, exactly in this way, that they are going after russia to fight, including representatives of foreign countries. well, yes, i understand that, i'm just asking

why it was demobilized, it was an important issue for modi, it was discussed in the indian media, on the eve of the visit, as one of the main points of his stay, but putin could not give him such gifts. for putin, after all, maintaining bilateral relations, stable, good relations with india is very important for putin. in principle, it was not difficult enough and it is not critical that it is important to demobilize somewhere two dozens of indian citizens, in fact , in order to maintain warm relations as possible, because interpersonal relations are just as important, especially when we talk about india, it is a country, a regional leader, it is a very powerful country, which is developing quite dynamically and is ready to cooperate, continue to cooperate with russia, not essentially so, i.e. not isolated from russia, i will continue. cooperation in fact continues , including, well, in the grand scheme of things, directly or indirectly sponsoring this war in one way or another, so for putin to maintain bilateral ties

with modi personally and with india, as well as with the sales market, for example, russian oil, russian chalmazes, this is very important, and such a gesture actually had much more significance than the order of andrei pervozvanov, which putin presented to modi. and tell me, i understand that... it pays for russian oil in rupees, what does russia then do with these rupees, it's not even yuan? the point is that modi refuses putin's proposals to pay in yuan, they are now trying to find ways to pay for these transactions in national currencies, they try to find ways, for example, to pay these transactions in dirhams, which is the currency of the united arab emirates, because somehow the sanctions are still in place, but they find ways to... these sanctions bypass for india, russia is quite, quite an important player in this, a partner in this context, because due to such an attractive discount offered by

the russian federation, not only to china, but also to india, oil, petroleum products, coal also help of india to provide its own energy security, and they are trying to explain their energy cooperation with russia, their large population, india seems already this year. has overtaken china in terms of population, they explain that they cannot afford to turn down such attractive offers as those offered by the russian federation, they are diversifying their sources of supply, of course, they are diversifying the countries from which they supply oil, they are diversifying, they are trying to diversify its energy security through alternative sources energy, and india is quite successful in this context in solar energy, in wind energy, but of course, there are attractions from such. they cannot refuse the offers provided by the russian federation. but on the other hand, india has formed a strategic partnership with the united states. nared namodiya went to washington, was a guest

of joseph biden. and how does everything fit into this single foreign policy. this is the concept of so-called strategic autonomy that narendra modi is following. he insists that india is independent player in their foreign policy, they refuse to go to frewartar of one or another more powerful player. including with the united states of america, and modi really manages to sit on not even two, even several villages at the same time, they take advantage of the importance that they have for the united states of america in the context of the confrontation with china and in the context of containing china, so the united states even turns a blind eye to many things, such as cooperation with the russian federation, when in the beginning of a full-scale invasion many of the american officials came to india. and tried to explain to them what consequences might befall them for cooperation with the russian federation, they succeeded, they managed to prove their benefit to the united

states of america and avoid secondary sanctions for all cooperation with russia, so this is the strategic autonomy that they continue, which they continue to observe narendra modi, allows india to balance very successfully between several centers of power between the united states and at the same time maintain relations with such toxic countries as russia and in that including maintaining cool, but nevertheless stable and controlled relations with china, with which they have not only geopolitical competition, but also quite real territorial conflicts and claims. and tell me, it was noticed in ukraine that he was in moscow on rendramody on the day when the russians shelled okhmadit, they didn’t just notice, the president of ukraine even spoke about it, that on the day when ahmadit was being shelled , he was hugging putin on renramod, in india in general it's a pomino. he reacted quite well to the render mod discreetly, as indian diplomacy always reacts, since it was known

in advance about the visit, that the visit would take place, it can be said from the russian federation's side that this was a kind of reason, because to host the prime minister the minister of a fairly powerful country and at the same time shelling peaceful neighborhoods in kyiv and other cities of ukraine, shelling okhmady, this was by and large a very unpleasant surprise for narender modi, and i think that, not least of all, this is what motivated modi cancel the last round of negotiations, the last one meeting and fly to vienna. on narendra modi's side. on the part of india, they continue to maintain a little distance from the russian-ukrainian war, not to react sharply to certain events or issues that are painful for us, at the same time they offer their services as negotiators and mediators, but regarding the shelling of ahmedit directly, narend ramodi reacted during the press conference, without calling ukraine ukraine, without naming the location that was shelled, he simply noted that as if

his heart breaks when innocent victims, including innocent children, die , this is exactly the reaction we got from him, without any sharp condemnation of the russian federation, roughly the same rhetoric is maintained in the indian media. well, i understand correctly that in vienna at rendramod he spoke again about the need for a peaceful settlement of this situation, as far as he is serious about it, this is standard rhetoric that they have been supporting since february 24, 2022. they believe that only peace negotiations can to be the only, the only option for solving this war, and since india positions itself as the voice and leader of the countries of the so-called global cock, it would be quite beneficial for them in terms of reputation and image to offer, for example, india as a location for possible potential negotiations, if such ever become relevant, or perhaps for the second peace summit. since

proposals are currently circulating in the media about the possibility of inviting the russian side to the second peace summit, india could quite possibly would be an inviting location, and if a much larger number of countries from the latin american, african and asian regions were likely to come, we could see greater representation from this region at potentially india's second peace summit with from the point of view of reputation and image, it would be useful, plus... they maintain their image as a peace-loving country and a peace-making country, so they systematically and consistently propose to resolve the russian-ukrainian war precisely through peace negotiations, well that for this, it is still necessary that russia somehow wants to go to the peace summit, even to india, somehow we do not, sorry, do not trace this desire, to be honest, definitely yes, and well, i personally tend to think that any proposals to the russian federation to come

to the peace summit. will they not find any negotiations there, will they not find any response from the russian side, even if one day it is somehow possible to meet with the russians in some format for potential negotiations there, they are unlikely to be effective from my point of view, and unlikely whether they will be effective, and it will be possible to agree on something, because today the russian side can only speak in the language of ultimatums and blackmail , in fact, but india would be more attractive... the location, if we talk about potential negotiations, the most important thing, not so much here is the desire or reluctance of the russian side, the most important thing is that india could thus set an example to other countries of the global cock, and they would be able to demonstrate greater interest in resolving the russian-ukrainian war, that is the most, the most important. that is, it can be said in principle that modi, even when he does not publicly talk to putin about the war, is

interested in being... participants in the process itself? unequivocally yes, and especially now that china's toxicity continues to grow, and any statements from china about wanting to play a supposedly constructive role in quotation marks in settling this war, it's not working, and india sees this as an opportunity to seize the initiative and act as a negotiator, mediator, as a potential mediator, although it should be noted that india does not have such experience, but there is quite a good ... experience in organizing multilateral forums, summits and so on, therefore, in this context, india can be relied on, if the need really arises, there will be a need to negotiate with by the russian federation, for example, regarding the exchange of prisoners of war or the return of forcibly removed children to the territory of ukraine, here it is quite possible to consider india itself as such a hypothetical intermediary, if not talk about large-scale events.