he's interested in being a part of, i would say, the process itself, definitely yes, and especially now that china's toxicity continues to grow, and any statements from china about wanting to play a supposedly constructive role in the pews in settling this war , it all does not work, and india sees this as an opportunity to seize the initiative and act as a negotiator, mediator, potential mediator, although it should be noted that india does not have such... experience, but there is a pretty good experience in organizing multilateral forums, summits and so on, therefore, in this context, india can be relied upon, if the need really arises, there will be a need to negotiate with the russian federation, for example, regarding the exchange of prisoners of war or the return of forcibly removed children to the territory of ukraine, here it is quite possible to consider india as a such a hypothetical intermediary, let alone large-scale events. diplomatic

, such as peace summits and so on, but as a mediator in some specific individual issues, tactical ones can be conducted with india communication. thank you, ms. alina, alina hrytsenko, the chief consultant of the national institute of strategic studies, was in touch with us. greetings to everyone aleikum, this is the beraber together program in ukrainian, a joint project of the crimean tatar tv channel atr and the espresso tv channel, i am andriy yanitskyi, and today i will host this program myself, my co-host gulsum khalilova, today is in poland, in the sejm, where the sejm is supposed to recognize the crimean tatar genocide of the crimean tatar people by russian russia, still by the soviet union in the 44th year. you

to keep you informed about it, but let's start traditionally with a call to subscribe to the atp and espresso youtube channels, like, comment on this episode, because that's how youtube works, if you watch us on youtube and want others to watch us, please do these actions, and i encourage you to transfer money as well, if you see a qr code on your screen during the program for transferring funds, transfer it to... noman chilibikhan omba, this is an army unit that is specifically aimed at releasing crimea, which has set itself the goal of liberating the occupied peninsula, we cooperate with this unit as long as this program exists, and we will talk first, as always, with military experts, then on humanitarian topics, military expert serhii bratchuk, ukrainian spokesman. the army of the south is with

us today, mr. serhiy, congratulations, glory to ukraine, glory to the armed forces, congratulations, glory to the heroes, my question is that during the last week something interesting happened in crimea, which should be paid attention to from a military point of view vision, were there any surprises? there are really no surprises, but there will be surprises from the defense forces of ukraine, if we are talking at all. about the processes that crimea is currently living through, as i emphasize, a combat zone, and this is a combat zone, the demilitarization of the temporarily occupied peninsula continues, the destruction, let's say so, of that counter -defense, anti-aircraft defense umbrella, which was built by the russian occupiers over our a temporarily occupied peninsula, we know very well that crimea has been transformed like ourselves the russians... respectively, covering the sky over

crimea so that the ukrainian defense forces could not strike accordingly, and the actual functionality is the provision of the front along the entire length of the south and not only the south, i.e. the influence on the line of combat actually in the territory of the temporarily occupied kherson oblast and zaporizhzhia oblast, we actually now see that this work, it continues purposefully, is being destroyed. launchers of air defense systems in crimea, a very important element, and i would refer to that special attention, radio engineering facilities are being destroyed, that is, those facilities that are the ears and eyes of the air defense system in crimea, for which our skies over crimea are freer, in order to make it possible, this is not an announcement, and this, well, let's say this, is a suitable hint that this sky, which will be free, will be used. with other means

of fire damage, i will not say what exactly, i think that the attentive viewers will guess what we are talking about. in any case, the next stage will be destruction. logistics, control points, and this work is purposeful, i want to say once again, well , i will reveal a small secret after all, not all the events that take place in crimea are reported today, because it is clear that the work is painstaking, it took a long time, regarding the destruction of the enemy, not everything can be talked about today, but the enemy is definitely getting smaller on the territory of crimea. well, interesting news, which, i think, was a surprise for many, the words of volodymyr zelenskyi. president of ukraine that we cannot hit all objects in crimea with western weapons, it seemed to me that the ban applies only to the russian territory directly, and even then this ban was slightly relaxed, because you can hit objects in a hundred-kilometer zone around the kharkiv region, but it turns out that there are some taboos in crimea as well,

which would prohibit us, where would we go it is forbidden to strike on the peninsula, that there is such a thing that is sensitive, that the americans are afraid to give us so, the fact is, well, perhaps the enemy's scaremongers worked in some way there that russia, including , tried, at least talked about it, to have objects that will perform the function elements of the so-called nuclear shield of the russian federation, maybe it is related to this, maybe to some other issues, but i think that for the defense forces of ukraine there should be no prohibitions, there should be no... taboo not only on the territory of the temporarily occupied crimea , actually on those objects of the russian federation located on its territory. so, returning to crimea, i think that these taboos will not really spread to our ukrainian peninsula, because we perfectly understand that crimea today and its

liberation is a military-political issue. and no matter how strange it is, it is precisely during the full-scale rejection of this military aspect. the military aspect, it became perhaps even more the main factor for the liberation of crimea than the diplomatic some movements in the complex all this will happen, and going back to the objects that you are talking about, maybe it is really connected, once again i'm talking about the so-called nuclear shield of the russian federation, there may still be some obstacles, but i hope there won't be any, because we all understand very well that all objects on the territory of crimea, russian occupation, they are legitimate purposes. for ukraine, and without the liberation of crimea, we cannot say that our war with russia will end in victory, only the liberated crimea, as one of the liberated territories, there are donetsk, luhansk, zaporizhzhya, kherson oblasts, then we will say that ukraine is liberated from the resolute, so i think this taboo will also be

lifted. and nuclear weapons facilities can be located in crimea, i haven't seen evidence of this, but there were rumors that the russians...actually brought nuclear weapons to crimea. well, actually, i'm not talking about rumors now said, i said about the information that at least the enemy voiced it, that the territory of the crimea can be used precisely for the placement of similar weapons or elements similar to these weapons. therefore, of course, i understand that our allies and partners also want to protect themselves, and here the intelligence works in this regard, accordingly, i still hope that this... let's say, more informational noise in this regard is created by the russian federation, and those the elements that she calls as elements, i repeat, of the nuclear shield of the russian federation, they are there is no territory of crimea. let's go back to the sky over

crimea, you say that we are clearing the sky so that it can be used for good, it is good for ukraine, and in this context it is very interesting whether we will be able to use it. f-16 aircraft, which we expect already this year, and maybe according to some data, it is possible that they are already somewhere in the south, you know, i am a supporter of being the first to be the first to hear about the appearance of f-16 in the ukrainian sky, all- so declared our enemies, who will feel, i hope, the most accurate, accurate and hard blows of our aviation, taking into account the arrival of f 16, to fly and in the air, stuto against enemy targets, air targets, these planes, these missiles, because it is necessary to deter the enemy from its aviation component, namely aviation weapons, cabs, fabs, that is, the bombs that torment our

near-front regions and directly on the line of battle, but these aircraft can actually be used, absolutely right, you understand what i mean, in order to destroy, let's say, quite powerful command posts, control posts, air defense posts, points radio engineering, which i spoke about a little, and for this the sky over the temporarily occupied crimea... must be cleaner so that these planes are more protected, it cannot be affected by any air defense systems, which, unfortunately , are still in crimea , so that everything is interconnected, moreover, these rockets are so for understanding the situation, they can carry on board a different nomenclature of missiles, precisely for the performance of those tasks, which i have already talked about a little, and what concerns the landing in the crimea or ground operation? or amphibious assault or air, is it possible at this stage, or should we wait until we

get closer to the isthmus. well, let's put it this way, i already said a little bit that the liberation of crimea will take place through military and political means, in any case , appropriate conditions must be created for the liberation of crimea. today, these conditions are being gradually created by the defense forces, when it will be determined... the time is 10:00, then we will all see how the defense forces will liberate crimea, we will not be in a hurry, everything will happen as planned by the forces defense, again, it will largely depend on the availability of that, i hope that ukraine will restore it as soon as possible. broke off, we

will try to talk to him again, because one topic is interesting, but i will remind you that we spoke with serhiy bratchuk, the spokesman of the ukrainian volunteer army south, you are watching the beraber program, it is together in ukrainian in the ukrainian language from the crimean tatar region, and this is a joint project crimean tatar tv channel atr and tv channel. so great, maybe you heard, maybe you heard that the ukrainian border guards detained a ship which entered the port of occupied sevastopol before that, but they used various tricks for this, for example, they turned off the transmitters, and what was the captain of this vessel thinking, he was also arrested and detained. er, that it is possible to enter

the occupied ports of crimea without any punishment and not bear any responsibility for it, it seems to me that crimea has been occupied for 10 years, these sanctions have been in effect for 10 years, why did they dare? i think this captain is now thinking about where he can get a good lawyer, that's the first thing, i would pay attention to this, to this detention this vessel from another. on the other hand, i hope that this is the beginning of the process that many people are talking about, including experts in international maritime law, that all those who were involved in crimes against ukraine of this nature, i.e. stealing our grain, transshipment of this grain, they will be punished, well actually this is the first possible example, i hope, of international maritime law, they will also be detained. someone thought about what is no longer necessary,

i will say it again, it is important for me that it started and where it went after, so this trick is no longer works, if before it was turned a blind eye in some way, international justice did not work, now it will start to work, what else would i like to advise you to read or find out, if you are a fan of... our berber program and you know about the co-host gulsum khalilova, who she is not with us today, because she is in poland, let me remind you, she is in the polish diet with a delegation, with the leader of the crimean tatar people, mustafa agha dzhemilev, with the head of the midjlis of the crimean tatar people, ryfat chobarov, with a deputy of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, a representative of the committee on culture and of spirituality mykola kniazhytskyi, they are currently in poland, deputies of the polish. have to vote on the recognition of the genocide of the crimean tatar people by the stalinist regime

in 1944 during the deportation, and they are now the deputies voting, so , unfortunately, we cannot call gulsum and show you how it is happening, but you will definitely see it in the news . so here's what i wanted to say about gulsum: there is such a specialized edition of detector media, on which today you... there was an interview with gulsum khalilova, you can read about her, who she, what kind of person is this, a very interesting interview, i advise you to read it for a reason, it is read all over the turkic-speaking world and in turkey, and serhii is with us again, mr. serhii, i congratulate you again, i am glad to be on the phone, this time we will try to talk, so about the kidnapping of grain, before it was not possible to detain these kidnappers, that is, they turned off these transmitters, exposers or whatever they are correctly called, and as if they did not get caught, as if

they could report that they were not in occupied crimea, but now it turns out that it is possible... guess they were there, something has international legislation changed, or what is the reason? i think that precisely our partners and allies have joined this work, it is extremely important, it is common, because it is a question of global food security, here we are not only talking about ukraine, here is also the issue of the implementation of international maritime legislation, well someone may also find themselves, god forbid, in such a situation, so i think that here... our allies have begun to work more fruitfully, and moreover, i think, here is also the security situation that has developed in general, on the black sea, in particular, it encourages this, that today, accordingly , our defense forces, which carried this out, gave such an opportunity to work to law enforcement officers, law enforcement officers can work more widely in

this field, actually, you see, already go out to sea, detain, monitor , sure that the base of those ships, those vessels, it is with our law enforcement officers, and there will certainly be punishment. in your opinion, can the naval forces of ukraine eventually become a guarantor of the safety of shipping in the black sea? we see that already the armed forces of ukraine were able to clear at least the western part of the black sea from the russian military presence, and now our drones even reach the new russian ones... sometimes they reach, sometimes they even appear in the sea of ​​azov, but can we claim such a role as a regional player, which will ensure the safety of navigation in this region? i think it is more correct to say that it will be joint work together with our

allies and, god forbid, even within the framework of work, activities within the framework of the north atlantic alliance. over time, but for now we will talk that turkey, romania, and bulgaria can and should be next to us, that everyone is interested in that, even those who do not say it openly, like ukraine, that the black sea fleet of the russian federation should not be in the black sea, maybe somewhere in novorossiysk there is a small flotilla that will deal with, well, some kind of auxiliary flotilla precisely in the port of novorossiysk itself, because russia has shown that it is not just... there is no need to deal with it, it is evil and in this case in the black sea , how many more lawsuits will there be, for the theft of the same ukrainian grain, for other crimes that were committed, the work of judges, i think, international judges in this regard, but really, still, i think, you need to rely on allies and maybe be a

kind of unofficial, but a leader in to this matter, and the last question: regarding the nato summit , the nato summit was held this week, and again, not everyone was there, not everyone was happy with the conclusions that were made, they said that there will be some kind of bridge built for ukraine's accession to nato, that the future of ukraine belongs to ukraine in nato, but no specific terms, no specifics we haven't heard about the fact that already now, for example, we will be accepted or will be accepted... somehow gradually, first free territories, then liberated territories, that is, such hopes there did not happen, were not realized, are you yourself satisfied with the results of the summit nato, and did we hear anything important there? well, i'm not satisfied, that 's understandable, but it's even, because i didn't have high expectations, in general, this anniversary

summit, it will go down in history only as an anniversary by serial number, that's another decision. such, you know, they, pere kind of on half past six, but on the other hand, we should talk about the fact that we plan to continue joining nato, and this is how it will happen, and the main thing is that our allies understand that the formula for peace and security in the world, it is today invested in such concepts that ukraine must win if we started this war with the fact that ukraine should not lose to russia, today i think that nato should too. basically 99% of the participating countries understand that ukraine should win, there is only one question that our allies have to answer, when uh? and precisely on this occasion and help us to work, and i hope that just as the new head of nato, when he becomes premier, mr. rutte, he will still bring

something, will add fresh air, fresh blood to the activities of this organization, maybe the time will come that i personally i dream that it is nato that will ask ukraine. the conversation was quite interesting, we spoke with serhiy bratchuk, who is the spokesperson of the ukrainian volunteer army south. about what are the most important military events in the peninsula during the past week, you are watching the bereber program, it is together in ukrainian translated with crimean tatar, this is a joint project of atr tv channel and espresso tv channel, i am andriy yanitskyi, the host of this project, our program is going on summer vacation, so there will be no broadcasts of the program in the near future, but we are not saying goodbye to you and i hope. see you again, koryushkendzhi, goodbye,

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nato summit is being held in washington. the situation at the front. the world is shocked by the brutal shelling of ukrainian hospitals. results of parliamentary elections in france and great britain. self-proclaimed peacemaker viktor orban continues to visit world capitals. from july 9 to 11 nato summit was held in washington. the issues of deterring russian aggression and supporting ukraine were among the main issues at the anniversary meeting held by the alliance in the 75th year since its creation. see the results of this important event for the future of the whole world in our next story: the nato summit, which

was held in washington from july 9 to 11, brought key decisions to ukraine, including the allocation of 40 billion euros of minimum basic funding next year. f-16 already this summer and new anti-aircraft systems, launching a mechanism that will coordinate the provision of military equipment and... training of the ukrainian military, the launch of a joint nato-ukraine analysis, training and training center, an additional aid package from canada for 500 million canadian dollars. a ukrainian treaty was also signed, according to which 22 nato countries, the eu and japan undertook to provide ukraine with weapons, ammunition and training for the military. this treaty is open for signature by other states. and although the summit brought many positive decisions, ukraine again... they received an invitation to the alliance, although in the document they stated that the future of ukraine is in nato. ukrainian politician and diplomat roman bezsmertny believes that

there was no reason to extend an invitation to nato. i expected an invitation, at least, because there is absolutely no reason not to give an invitation to ukraine. in fact, all the parameters that were discussed in the last two years. they have been completed, moreover, if we compare the synchronization of ukraine with nato in this process, it is much more carefully worked out, more detailed and more perfect than even between by the nato member countries themselves. and, by the way, if you read the washington declaration, it is noted there, it talks about a number of problems in the internal organization. nato organizations, which do not actually exist in ukraine. the process of ukraine's accession to nato is being delayed, in particular due to the pressure of russia's nuclear potential and the fear of inviting a third one.

taking time to solve the problem of ukraine's membership in nato, the third world war is actually approaching. but it is impossible to explain this to the people who are very closely guarding both president biden and candidate trump today, because in fact, both camps are dominated by the fact that the world is ahead of the other. this war was called the doctrine of isolationism, that is, to be further away from the actual center, the center of this flame. and despite the brave speech of president biden, and the things that sounded quite optimistic there, this fundamental doctrinal thing that we are talking about now, it is the basis of the position of deterring entry. of ukraine in nato, because if

you read this letter, ukraine's accession to nato is a disaster, it is the third world war, it is the use of nuclear weapons and the end. novel bezsmertnyi suggests that it is possible that there will be several meetings of the alliance this or next year, because there are still many questions before the new declaration, but the country's accession to nato is inevitable. it is already obvious to me, i am finalizing, that the accession of ukraine to nato from it will happen instantly, because if you look at the dynamics of the processes, the security situation is worsening on the european continent, at the moment there are full of complete armies, there are three in europe, the largest is ukrainian, then the swedes, then the finns. if you wonder, god forbid, what, well, yourself form an answer to this question, who

will be the most in europe, therefore, from my point of view, the question of ukraine's accession is only a question, well, in my opinion, it is a year and a half, and most likely it will happen simply by a one-time decision of the summit or council nato, and then by quick decisions of the parliament. the summit itself took place in the background. that the united states and germany were oscillating around the final wording that would be recorded in the nato declaration. the day before, the news media even reported that french president emmanuel macron had laid down responsibility for all this lies with official washington and berlin. however, later, the elysee palace declared that this information was not true, and the french president did not make such statements. so, the media...

who spread this statement of macron were forced to withdraw it. however, this discrepancy was clearly demonstrated. even now, in the 11th year of russia's war against ukraine, within the nato allies, everything does not look so monolithic. yes, the allies managed to write down unambiguous words of support for ukraine in the final resolution. however, final certainty there is still no word on when ukraine will acquire the full status of a member of the north atlantic alliance. ukraine, strengthened by western aid, can win the war against the russian invaders. this is reported by the new york times with reference to sources among high-ranking american officials.