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today is the last day for conscripts to update their data, and what will happen from tomorrow, what fines await those... who did not make it, how they will be sent and fines, and summonses, and the ukrainians are tired of the war and whether they are ready to negotiate, we will ask a sociologist about this, and we will also talk to the military, and what they are saying at the front about negotiations and how they feel about such a prospect. this is svoboda ranok, my name is kateryna nekrecha, and we are starting. be sure to subscribe to our resource, like and write comments, do what is necessary for support. of our channel in the spaces

of ukrainian youtube, thank you for that, and also we are moving on to the important topics of this morning, so today, as you know, is the last the day when conscripted men of draft age from 18 to 60 years must update their military registration data, as required by the new law on mobilization, data can be updated in three ways, through the mobile application rezerv+p, in administrative service centers and directly in the etc of the jv, they were given 60 days to update the data. people's deputies did not extend this period, despite the fact that in almost all regions there were queues to the tcc all this time, and in recent weeks queues have also formed near tsnapi. the kyiv city state administration said that the capital tsnapy has already used the maximum resource for working with visitors and urges to use the reserve plus application in order to update the data in time. which one the situation in

the ukrainian regions and whether there are queues for police stations even today, now we will ask our colleagues, a correspondent of radio liberty works in rivne, volodymyr mykolaichuk, colleague, congratulations, thank you for joining, tell me whether there is a queue and whether an influx of people wishing to renew is expected your data in tsnap today, good morning, colleagues, you can see behind me how the rivne tsnap looks like, the queue is here until 9 today hours, a small crowd of up to a hundred people formed, a week ago i personally saw the queue stretching for 150-200 m, there were up to several hundred people who wanted to update their data, the queue was occupied, for example, at 6-5 in the morning, in order to receive vouchers, pass after all, updating the data, today we see excitement, but it is not observed, i spoke with the employees of tsnap, they said that there were up to 700 to a thousand people a day, they wanted to speed up the queue and not create such a stir, it really was in... they allowed everyone

to the operators to accept conscripts and they did it without a lunch break, that is, if the person was all right, in a few minutes they processed one, er, one person who applied, but now you notice that the queue is practically moving inward, it is gone , what is this connected with, well , it seems to me that many people understood that it is worth updating their data through the reserve plus mobile application, many turned to... snab, in the end they were sent to the tcc, because some data is generally needed could be clarified only after visiting the territorial centers completing. and volodymyr, in some places in the regions there was such a story that people came to update their data at the checkpoints, and representatives of the tsc were already waiting for them at the exit. have there been such cases in your city? well, i personally have not come across this, the only case is an acquaintance of mine who has not updated his data for a long time, he... used to live in the district

center, then moved to the city, then he was told directly in tsnapa that he needs to apply directly to tcc, because it was generally absent in the database there, i.e 10 years have passed. after he registered for the military and did not have a military ticket or any military registration document there, but that the employees of the tsk were actually waiting there under the e-tsnap and took away men, mobilized them, well, such cases definitely did not come across, the only thing i know , that there were mobile points in the city, where tsc representatives checked with the police, well, actually, who answered the data there or evaded them, then they were delivered to the tsc to clarify the data, well, and the actual passage. e-e of the medical commission, volodymyr, you know the situation in the city, we cannot live, or we can film the premises of the tsk there, for example, but you see what the situation is, did you observe there the day before yesterday, for example, or today, maybe you have already seen queues directly before tsc jv? well,

usually every morning there was a live queue, i'll explain why, the fact is that in addition to updating data, people actually came according to summonses that they received at workplaces or, for example, on the streets, so... there was always a live queue, i but recently, recently talked with employees of the lutsk regional tsk, and they told that during the day they had up to a hundred people willing to serve, that is, on that day the admissions committee worked with somewhere around a hundred volunteers, that is, there was always a live line, there it did not stretch for hundreds of kilometers, but that every morning you could it was possible to notice up to a hundred men who actually came to the army and how they updated their data and went according to summons. thank you volodymyr, i will remind our viewers that we are monitoring the situation throughout ukraine, if you have data on the situation in in your city, in your region, please write in the comments under this video, and just now volodymyr mykolaichuk, a correspondent

of radio liberty in rivne, told what the situation is there. thank you, volodymyr. as of july 14, more than 4 million conscripts have already updated their data, it was reported. in the ministry of defense, those who did not update their data after july 16 according to the procedure, should be invited to pass the vlk. the ministry of defense explained that passing the vlk is such a separate type of military duty, that is, the data is considered updated even without it, although in practice it is cases when men came to the tcc in order to update their data, but in their place they quickly passed the vlc and were mobilized. so what awaits the next procedure for men, those. those who do not have time to update their data by tomorrow will receive a fine from uah 17 to uah 25,000. starting tomorrow , summonses can be sent to them at the old addresses, those that are at the disposal of the tsc. the deputy minister of defense of ukraine, kateryna chornogorenko, said that there are questions in the project. according to her

, summonses should begin to be sent out by ukrposhta and they will be considered served. even if the person did not put his signature on them. but if the military serviceman will ignore these summonses and fines. then it can be entered into the search database. serhii starenkyi, lawyer, deputy chairman of the committee for the protection of human rights, national association of lawyers of ukraine, joins our broadcast. welcome to our broadcast. thank you for joining. yes, good morning. mr. sergey, have we correctly described the chronology of events with what awaits those who did not go, did not update their data or did not register in the reserve plus. yes, that's right, today the 16th is the last day you can do it. to do, therefore, it is worth doing it, because really the procedure for imposing fines, the procedure for imposing, bringing to justice those who did not do it without a good reason, it is, unfortunately, so, you know, very strict, and a person

has little opportunity to leave himself from illegal imposition of this fine, it will be imposed first, then the person will be declared wanted, and the person will have problems. on any inspection documents, he can be detained, delivered to the shopping center in the future, and he will have less chance, let's say so, to provide all the necessary documents that he needs to provide there for a postponement, due to his health or some others, mr. sergey, well, i heard such a the argument that they are already looking for it, i will not update anything , let them send a fine there, after all , it sounds so simple, and on the other hand, how to find a person who has not updated his data, accordingly, there is no... his address , well, for example , there cannot be this address in the tcc, for example, if a person did not go there all his life, only after school and came and did not update the data anymore, or this person is from the occupied territories, accordingly , the tsc data remained there, if they were not digitized, then the problem is precisely with by those

people who are temporarily displaced persons, who are from the occupied territories, from the front-line territories, there really, well, the law defines it as such, if the person has not updated. data, the tcc considers that this person is at the place of his last registration, and all summonses and all messages addressed to this person. will be sent exactly to the place of registration, if a person is a temporarily displaced person, registration in the occupied territories, the ministry of social policy keeps records of temporarily displaced persons, at which new address they are registered, in principle, it is possible to understand where a person is, since each person has an ip and individual tax number, identification code, people call him, he works somewhere and... and so on, of course, a number of people deliberately do not, well, do not shine their

data, you can say so, but still the current state of technology there, the current state of accounting, the availability of registers will greatly limit the possibilities of these people, if they do not register for military registration, i think that sooner or later such data will be provided to the tcc, so that the tcc accounting corresponds to the accounting, for example, of the tax office, where, where this person works, so that the accounting of the shopping center corresponds to the accounting of the ministry of social policy regarding temporarily displaced persons, i think it is only a matter of time, so i would recommend people to bring their accounting documents, including in order. sir serhiy, and for those who updated their data only in tsnap or in the plus reserve, but did not pass the vlk, will there be fines, what will they be and what will happen next? no, no, look, updating the data is... a specific action that all military-obliged citizens of ukraine had to do

before, well, until today, and this action is provided for by this law of may 17, which made changes to the law on mobilization, the issue of passing, by the way, it was clearly written there that during the update of data , a summons for passing the vlk is not served, i.e. vlk and passing, vlk and passing data update are different. actions and different , according to the responsibility of those who do not fulfill them, those who updated the data, those who submitted the relevant documents in a timely manner, either through reserve plus or through cnap, they have fulfilled their duty, in the future, if they receive a summons , or by mail, or will be handed over by an authorized person there at work or in the local community, then he has the obligation to appear at the military medical board, pass it accordingly and get a certain you. conclusion, that is, it is a separate action and separate responsibility, if you have registered, if you have updated your data and

you do not receive a summons, you do not have the obligation to go to the vlk on your own, that is , the tsc will call you and then you, then only such an obligation arises, and accordingly, if not appeared on a summons, then a fine of 17 to 25 thousand is really imposed under article 210, icon one of the code of ukraine on administrative offenses. how much time is there for the fact that 10 days, and to appear at the tsk for passing the vlk, do i understand correctly? er, well there, tro, a little not yes, the summons must state when the person must appear before the vlk to pass the relevant commission. first of all, the purpose of the subpoena must be specified, because sometimes such subpoenas were issued just to appear, and it is not clear why to appear, this is a violation of the law, that is, subpoena a must state what it is. passing vook, b) the time when it must be done is indicated. of course, i foresee

some problems with the fact that these subpoenas will be delivered by registered mail, because the postal workers are not always on time for objective reasons, these subpoenas are delivered, but in these individual cases it will be necessary to deal with it, to appeal against these decisions on the collection of the imposition, well, in a certain way, proving that the person is there, for example, his subpoena has arrived. to appear on the 10th, she received it on the 11th, but these are isolated cases, i think there will be, but the summons must state, and it really must state a period of at least 10 days after the sending of this summons. mr. sergey, what is a summons by mail, what is it, how does it work, is it really considered to be there signed without a signature, and how should it be regulated, or do you already understand it as a lawyer? well, i understand that, yes, but the question is precisely that, well,

this issue is not very settled and it does not work very well in practice, unfortunately, because, well, what order is provided, first of all, the office of ministers made changes to the procedure for printing these summonses and sending them, i.e. they must now be printed through the system of charms necessarily, in a certain specified there, in a certain specified... form and with a qr code on this summons, i.e. there are certain elements protection of this subpoena, they must be printed only in this way, this subpoena must be signed by the head of the tsc. or a person authorized by him, and , that is, as before, somewhere at a stop, on the knee, some military officer cannot issue this summons, it can only be issued by the head of the tcc, and then sends it by registered letter to the address specified by the military officer , or during the update, or his last registration address, if he has not updated his data, and

even further this summons goes by mail, you see, the problem is that our postmen, they are not there are... people who are on military duty there to deliver summonses, they are doing their job, working at any post office, if you go in there, well, there are problems with the delivery of correspondence, unfortunately, because there are not enough postmen , they don't have enough time and so on, so i would simply recommend that people check these summonses by going to the post office themselves and asking if there are any letters recommended to me, so that it does not happen that the summons arrived, and the postman did not hand it over. i just made a note about the fact that there is a person there is not at home, mr. serhiy, that is, the postman must deliver it personally, or you come to the post office, receive this letter, and you must personally receive it there, and then it is already considered delivery of the summons, i understand correctly, but unfortunately, our state and ukrposhta has changed the rules a little in favor of the fact that the postman

may not come, just put a mark, but will consider that this correspondence is in... that is, the postal rules state that if a registered, registered letter arrives, the postman must or his personally deliver for place of residence, well, ring the bell and hand over to you, well, this letter, or leave a message in writing that there is a registered letter for you, please come to the post office and get it, sometimes they do it, sometimes there is not enough in they have the strength and time to do it. there is a risk that the postmen will not, will not be able to physically deliver these summonses in a timely manner, in this matter, unfortunately, time is of serious importance in our country and entails the imposition of fines, they can throw this summons into the mailbox and this is considered , will be to be considered as delivery of a summons, well, according to the rules, a registered letter cannot

be thrown into the mailbox, you can throw it into the mailbox, you know such a small piece of paper, it says that there is... a postal item for you, come to the post office, get it, that is, it will be considered that that a person has been informed that there is a postal shipment for him, they do not write which one, what it is, where it is from, from the court, from the tsc, or from just some citizen who considers this letter very valuable, so please pay attention, what mail comes to you, if any the notification that there is a registered letter in the post office, you should not put it off until later for collection, because ... the postmen will simply put a mark that i, i informed the person that there is a letter for him, but it did not appear and did not receive, and for the tcc, unfortunately, this will be enough to draw up a relevant resolution. mr. serhiy, please tell me, then there comes a notification and an invitation to pass the vlc, how it should happen, because we have different stories, there are stories when a person came to update his data and then, relatively speaking, left,

or she did not leave the tsc, but was already mobilized, and the vlk passes very quickly when... people are invited to the streets, met and invited there to update their data in the vlk and go through the vlk, it all happens very quickly, as per the procedure must be, a person has updated his data in tsnapa or in the reserve plus, then a summons comes so that he passes the vlk, how much time is given by law for this, can it happen in a matter of hours or there within an hour, direct direct, let's say so , such time is not regulated by law, but there are certain... the protocols according to which the shopping center must work, for example, the shopping center is obliged to send a person to pass certain elementary tests there, well, relatively speaking, there , for the presence of blood sugar, for the presence of sugar in the blood there or other tests, these tests are performed no less days, and in order

to say that in a couple of hours a person passed the vlc and that's it, everything is fine with her. of course, this is a certain violation, by the way, we recently discussed this issue on the basis of the association of lawyers of ukraine, so here is the representative of the vlk, unfortunately noted that their principle of work is slightly different, we expect an approach from them, as from doctors, and they are employees of the vlk, they have a different task, to put a person in order as quickly as possible, to return a person to the formation, and therefore certain recommendations will then be mine as follows: if you go to the vlc and you... know that you have certain diseases, don't be silent, firstly, secondly, be sure to go there with your documents about the eye examination, there are diagnoses, if you have... there are extracts from the medical history and be sure to attach them to yours medical documentation, because doctors sometimes, well, they pretend that they do not notice the presence of these certificates and do not attach them, so

if you really have a disease, you must attach these documents and already come to the vlk with them, with these documents, military personnel, those who pass the vlk in practice report that in order to pass the vlk normally and... to collect all the medical documentation, it takes at least a month, well, i think that too, well, such a period during martial law is quite long, but that's how it works our medicine also depends on queues, probably how many there are indeed, what and what queues there are and many different factors, thank you mr. serhiy for participating and for clarifying these important points, we remind you that today, including today, is the last day to update your data for all conscripts. an old lawyer, deputy head of the human rights protection committee of the national association of lawyers of ukraine gave his recommendations. thank you. you

know that radio liberty monitored the pace of data updates and the queues and problems faced by military conscription. we thank you for your messages, comments, communication with our editors. this is important, because we work for you, so let's continue at the same pace, share with us the information you have. and in the last days, when conscripts still had news to update your data without fines, our correspondent ruksulana bychay visited tsnapy and tsk in kyiv to check how long the queues are and whether everyone will have time to do this duty by the set deadline? let's see what roksolana found out. at 5:30 a.m. in kyiv, it dawns and next to one of the snaps of the grant centers administrative services , a queue of men of draft age was already lining up. is that you who came here? and what about curfew? well, there are no rules without exceptions, you keep lists, right? well, i just look and everything is here without any difference, who can, when did you come here? at

four and a penny, well ten, probably, but what about the commandant's office? well, if you want to join the queue, then you have to come a little earlier, the fine for not renewing this 17, for violating the curfew there is uah 150-550, well, here it is. what line are you in already? the 13th and, that is has anyone else arrived earlier? someone was sleeping in the car. the data can be renewed in tsnapa, in tsk or in reserve plus. why did you choose this path? there are nuances in the other two options. reserve plus is, well, a leaky thing, a raw thing, to say the least, from what i've heard. in tsk, well, in principle, the queues are the same. in the center of administrative provision. another district of kyiv, around six in the morning more than 100 people signed up, there is also a queue here, and they say that they manage to accept about 200 people a day, for

example, yesterday they accepted more than 200, so everyone who is here, they are already counting on being able to update the dates today. i spent the night in the car, seriously, seriously, i arrived at 4:37 and was already the fourth. show me your place to stay tonight, let's go, i came once, i came a second time, i realized that this is the only way i can somehow achieve a result, i slept, got up very hot, made an appointment, i'm waiting for mcdonald's to open to eat, i spent a few hours here several times, well, it costs me dearly, i'd better remember the time in the morning, will he miss work, karimat, he thought to use when it will be sitting, but tell me... we didn’t think to update it before, just now, in the last days before july 16 , there were such queues a couple of times, well, when i pressed the button, i already had to spend the night, i took a vacation, yes, so that to

finish all the work, and they took a vacation specifically for this, yes, there are no queues where there is no civilization, apparently, where people are climbing in crowds and everything, well, probably a sign of a civilized country, it seems to me that this service should be provided, well, if only without queues and a little more freely, and even on saturday morning they continue military are obliged to update their data in the tcc in kyiv. we came here on a weekend to see how many people there will be in the queues, and we can see that quite a lot of conscripted men have gathered, we can't show the building for security reasons, but even here there was such a huge queue nearby. patience, the main thing here is patience and that's all. further, this term is short. further, there are many people, and even more so, many people do not know, here, for example, a man came and did not know that copies, identification, passport, that is, were needed. again

come back, take the queue again, that 's all again, and i want to say something about the electronic queue, it would be better if they didn't do it anymore, it doesn't work, but it doesn't work, there's no point, i did this queue three times and there's no point, they're so good , i don't know, i would put a monument to them here for all the girls, well, they expressed an unpopular opinion, they usually criticize when it's hot, when a bunch of people are hanging over you, and you have to do it, and the main thing is that someone there doesn't make a mistake... god forbid in the document, you see, here yes, they managed even such a thing amount, i'm sitting in line, i'm looking, i think, girl, it's in room 208, maria, i say, that's for sure, i don't know, i say, a medal should be given, for the fact that she works like that, i say , i say, poor woman, how long did it take you to update the data and now to collect the documents, one, two, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6 days have passed, how does the electronic queue work here, and we know that it is midnight there

opens the possibility to take a ticket, so for this turn, does it work at all? maybe it works, but when you go to the site, there where you can take a ticket, then it either lies, or it is at eight or nine or even until two o'clock in the day, you can't take anything from a ticket, everything is very slow, the tsk can't cope with such and such a mass of people, and i i am not sure that i will be able to today, and if i even come in, i may be told... again , come on another day or sign up for a queue, and what will you do if, for example, you do not have time to update your data and get the relevant documents i will first write a complaint about this to the regional tsk, well that my shopping center, i fulfilled all their requirements, but they did nothing, they didn't have time to issue you the documents, well , yes, they are stupid, but i'm not the only one , you see how many people there are. the mobilization

is taking place according to the plan of the military, president zelensky said the day before at the press conference, although he stated that there are problems with the training bases for new recruits, he says that they can be expanded with the help of partners. regarding the training grounds, there are not enough of them, regarding whether they can be expanded, an expansion is already underway, regarding whether it is possible to expand base abroad, right? zelensky and about the course of the war. he repeated that the offensive of russian troops in the north of the kharkiv region failed, and this, i quote: is recognized by all experts. at the same time, zelenskyy refused to compare the actions of the previous and current commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine zaluzhnyi and syrskyi in the context of the combat situation. i treat everyone with due respect. everyone performs or performed his task in his place. i don't think that if... anyone was in

syrsky's place, there wouldn't be a corresponding breakthrough, i think there would be, because this the russians wanted, they had the task of entering and occupying kharkiv, a big plus in this situation, regarding syrsky, is that he knows kharkiv, the president of ukraine also said that in november the country should... come up with a plan for the second peace summit, where there should be representatives of the russian federation are already present. at the same time, he noted that he does not see ukraine being pushed by its partners to negotiate with russia, although he says that now the aid for ukraine's victory is not enough. are we helped enough, enough for what? enough to win, not enough. we would have won, and there would have been fewer losses.

enough, hold on enough? yes, and how do ukrainians feel about this issue? almost half, namely 44% of ukrainians who do not take part in hostilities, believe that the time has come to start official peace talks with russia. these are the results of a sociological survey conducted at the end of june by the razumkov center of sociology on behalf of the dzerkalo tzhynya publication. and this is the highest rate of approval of negotiations after the start of a full-scale war - sociologists note that in the opinion of 35% of respondents, it is time for negotiations have not yet come, many are in the gray zone, and 21% of those who are undecided. what's more interesting, despite people's response that they are ready for negotiations with russia, the vast majority is not ready to agree to putin's terms in these negotiations, with the condition that ukraine

withdraws its troops. i do not agree with four of my regions.