war, and not only for territories, it is also a war for minds. we are engaged in propaganda. russia is throwing millions of petrodollars into turning ukrainians into little russians. ukraine will become russia. countering russian information attacks in the chronicles of information war project with olga len. tuesday thursday at 17:15, repeat tuesday, friday at 22:00. information is in progress. the day of the telecast arrives and dmytro razumkov joins us, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine in 19-21. glory to ukraine, sir dmitry, glad to see you. credit to the heroes . well, the key story. well, it is not the most important event, but the event is bright, the event is visible. so mariyana bezugla left the servant of the people faction. so. before that, there was an initiative to remove her from the position of head of the committee,

she remained the deputy chairman of the committee, well, but she became the deputy chairman from the chairman of the subcommittee, as if the whole business thanked her for this, well, and we would like to ask you what, in your opinion, caused her excessive activity regarding the criticism of the higher military command, very specific generals, she worked on them quite purposefully, and rumors spread that maryana bezugla was not just maryana bezugla, so to speak. and what are behind it certain influential forces in our ukrainian politics? well, what are the forces, the office of the president is there, it basically carries out all the tasks that come from there, sometimes very peculiarly, you know, it is such a missile that can turn around, lose its guidance and hit those who sent it, this must also be understood, but on the other hand, well, actually, there are too many of us. time is given to mariana, i think

that there were enough senseless decisions in the parliament both with her and without her, and there will be enough, because looking at what is happening today in the walls of the parliament, maryana is not alone, many more of her colleagues can be put in the same row there, that's why i am not surprised by those who offer instead that thanks to the actions of the authorities today... people do not have electricity, there is no possibility to cool the premises, there is no, including water, there someone offers to pour cold water instead of giving an opportunity for people to live normally, instead of to help restore the economy, the same people are doing everything to drive it to the ground today, and at the same time they are telling us that there are no good options here, if we don't raise taxes, then there won't be enough for the army , a similar

question is, how would you form this budget, and why did you direct a large part of this budget to your needs, to the construction of roads and to other corruption stories? such a centralized critical management body, so we understand that the enemy will most likely try to destroy our energy system, we understand that the question of money is one thing. this is an important issue, but it may not even be a decisive issue, because in addition to funds , we need working hands, a strategy, how should we do it? well , this is a very, so to speak, productive decision, i say almost with tears in my eyes, but there are fears that at this rate we can to be in a situation where it will be too late to strategize. turn into very

specific management decisions, management decisions are to second a team of installers who could, i don't know, install this or that generator at this or that utility facility, such as the water supply. look, in reality, the situation is much more difficult and much deeper than what we are talking about now, and here the question is not about the brigade, but what this brigade will go with, and yesterday there were really normal votes. surprisingly, normal laws were voted in the walls of the verkhovna rada, i just spoke and said that they should be supported by the parliament, and the smart policy team and i came up with our vision of the agenda, fortunately something got through, but mostly it didn't, and the issue of demobilization didn't get in, and the issue of helping people in those , well, given the critical conditions in which they are today, i think that we will still have time. to talk, but

they talked and voted yesterday the law about importing, completing to for recovery. energy products duty-free without duties in order to reduce their cost price and in order for it to be a little cheaper for the ukrainian economy, in principle for you and me, but at the same time, everything is being done by the authorities in order not to vote on our reasonable policy bill, their two bills 11403, 11404, which would again make generators cheaper, power banks, made the system cheaper. the accumulation of electricity use, as they say, why again, because at one time in the 22nd year, it was our team that passed such two laws and they worked until may 23rd, and then the government relaxed, you talk about a strategy, there is no strategy,

the authorities relaxed and decided that they would not hit critical infrastructure objects anymore, i don't know what their brilliant idea was based on, but in fact we got what we got, and... they didn't want to continue with these bills , and now they are not allowed in the hall, because it is politics, because they did not have the sense to introduce the relevant initiatives, it was introduced by the smart policy team, proposed by the smart policy team, we developed them, and they are doing everything to well, there are other initiatives of others political forces did not get into the agenda, that is, they play politics instead of thinking... about people, not to propose what you and i said , the silly idea there about pouring water or something else, but to actually help people, they think about their future ratings, their future political existence, although very often they should think simply about their

future existence, in which countries it will take place, because sooner or later ukrainians will ask about all this, plus today the parliament was considering.. the bill on raising the excise duty on fuel, tomorrow they will vote on it, i hope, i really hope, that they will have the conscience not to vote for it, but as practice shows, conscience and common sense very rarely win today in the walls of the ukrainian parliament. what is this story about? this story is about the fact that tomorrow they will vote on a law that will increase fuel for every ukrainian. and we are not talking about the fact that when you come to the... legal station, it will cost an additional 5 hryvnias there, no, we are talking about a blow, a very serious blow to the entire economy of our states, first of all, it will affect all businesses, because the cost of delivery increases, all the goods and services that you and i consume become more expensive, on the other hand, it will affect

farmers, because the season is approaching, and for them the price of fuel is the key , one of the key components, today they are very often... working in the red, here they start talking about the fact that we will not harvest at all then, because it will simply become golden for us. the next person it hits is the military, because the budget, ah, which you and i fill up, buys fuel for the armed forces of ukraine, there is no separate price for the import of fuel, that is, the price increases for the armed forces as well, that is, for the ukrainian budget, that is, it is still financially milking. resource, which is already very little, beyond the budget, probably under the control of some of their own companies that will import this palo, mr. dmytro, allow me, we would also like to discuss with you the statement of people's deputy yaroslav zheleznyak, who says that as early as next week in the parliament will consider personnel block of questions and 95% in his opinion that there will be

a complete change of government, maybe you have some insights, is it already known whether there will really be a complete overload of the ukrainian cabinet and... who will lead it and who can occupy these or other key departments? well , there is literally a thesis on fuel, because today our state lives on generators, and for every small coffee shop, for every business, an increase in fuel tomorrow, it is either closure or an increase in the price of their goods and services for each of us. and as for ministers, you understand, the change of ministers does not affect the result of their work, by and large , one could simply put there... ah, portraits on these chairs and plus or minus it would correspond to the realities in which the government exists today. andriy borys irmak wants to strengthen his position, he wants to appoint sviridenko instead of shmegal, i am not exactly a big

supporter of denys shmygal, especially sviridenko, and they did not fulfill the tasks set before them. if we are talking about sviridenka in general. because the economic bloc is a failure, a complete failure, and if we are talking about shmegal as prime minister, then and the actions of the government are also unsuccessful, today is the story of energy. and everyone else, so a direct confirmation whether there will be questions next week is still unclear, but there is a high probability, it is 50x50, to be honest, but this is not the first time when domoklov’s sword is over the head of shmegal of the entire government, whether it will happen this, i don't know if it affects the results of the work of the parliament, definitely not, the results of the cabinet, no, they will again try to keep their convenient ministers, the ones they like, the ones they don't like, they will change ,

but i don't think that this will bring any positive for the state of ukraine, both domestically and internationally, the americans are all saying that, mr. dmytro, we understand that we cannot ignore our creditors, that is, which can give one or another invaluable advice, in particular, regarding the fact that they would like to see some kind of not... independent head of the government, yes, accountable, understandable, transparent, and for the government to work, well, as it should be, so that they can also to understand why certain ones are accepted decisions, and these or other decisions are not made, somehow, adequate and professional, i would say, these are two key issues that not only our international partners would like to see, i think that every ukrainian, but such people do not get used to banking , why i say on the bank, because the solution. is accepted right there, and there is a team of five or six managers, that's the point, the professionalism of these

managers leaves much to be desired, but in fact you and i must understand that international partners very rarely come and say there to appoint such and such a minister, it does not work like that, and in fact, most likely, this will not happen in the near future, but nevertheless, we must understand with you that international partners see all this, understand how what happens to the heads of state administration, how decisions are made, and they also see all the corruption scandals, and they also understand what it leads to, so i think that sooner or later it will have a negative impact on our assistance, but unfortunately, in the bank, in the office the president, in the cockpit they don't think about it, because they... don't think about the state, they think about themselves. you said that the economic sphere is a failure, but it's also

about filling our budget, and it's about some balance, yes, some, some, some middle ground, when we talk in the context of the needs of our military and how we, the economy to support so that we have something to pay the salaries of the military, to provide them, because we know that the actual social expenses, these are all currently funded by our partners, well if they are funded. somebody somebody someone gives loans, but it’s another matter, it ’s about economic reservation, today they talked about it again in the parliament, the head of the specialized committee said that they can offer a kind of service model for the military instead of money, in general, what concepts are currently being considered and whether these which are now in the draft laws, and there are three of them, are considered as such that they can be adopted, in them, look, they are changed every week... before this , the leadership of the servant of the people faction spoke, saying that minimal taxes, which should receive from

salary, in order to have an economic reservation, 30,000 is needed. well, i took it, calculated, unlike them, they do not know how to count, i calculated, it turned out that the salary should be uah 84,337, and the wage fund per employee more than 102, well , just for you to understand the level of their approaches, please tell me how many ukrainians receive such a salary today, later. can the spheres afford this economic reservation i.e. sorry i say individual can the spheres afford it not individual spheres it is individual people here let's be like this to say that it should be a white salary with such taxes, on the other hand, you and i should understand what they are talking about today about twenty, but there is absolutely no gradation for whom, how will it be implemented for fops, for large businesses, for medium businesses, will it affect ? on taxes, on which taxes it will depend, that is ,

they simply do not have answers to all these questions today. the next question i was asked at the front when we were traveling with the team was a smart travel policy, which would be spread to the military, well, they are also ready to pay 20,000 per month and return home, because they are not given demobilization like this, so maybe it will work like that, no, they say, it does not work like that, but what about at the expense, at the expense of social justice, why there? someone can afford to stay in the rear and help the army for 2,000 hryvnias, but a soldier who has been fighting for more than 2.5 years will not be able to do this, is it fair, i think not. and what to do with the budget they accepted, and when i and our colleagues from our team told them that their budget law is a completely empty place, and it is absolutely not supported economically, and it needs to be rewritten, and we were ready to join in and help, they and the minister

of finance, and podlasa, as the head of the committee , and the prime minister, and uh... the chairman of the verkhovna rada and then the president, who signed it all, they talked about the fact that everything was well calculated there, if everything was well calculated, why did they run out of money, why are they on the next years, the budget declaration does not provide for an increase in salaries for the military, because the minimum was 20-140 and it remains 20-140, the minimum for people remains the same as it is today for the next three years, for example, the size of the office of the president... they plan to increase it by 20%, and- ah, they want to increase spending on roads to almost 250 billion in the 27th year, that is, you know, when you have no money, maybe you just need to stop stealing a little, and there will be more of it, and there will be enough for the army, but choosing, yes , choosing between filling their pockets

or taking care of the military, power chooses the first option because it is theirs. own pockets. dmytro razumkov, people's deputy of ukraine and chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine from the 19th to the 21st year was on the live air of espress. now we have a break, then we continue the information day, so stay with espress. there are discounts that represent the only discounts on estaziping, 20% at travel pharmacies for you and savings. attention, a profitable offer. order a smart light bulb. at a special promotional price of only uah 149, durable, reliable and so powerful, and the price is only uah 149. ordinary light bulbs are expensive in stores more than uah 250, and we offer you a light bulb that shines even when there is no light for only uah 149. take advantage of such a favorable offer. the smart light bulb

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it is 5 p.m., more precisely at 10, at 9:5, dana yarova, in touch with us, adviser to the deputy minister of defense of ukraine, member of the public anti-corruption council at of the ministry of defense, head of the non-governmental organization children's dream of ukraine. glory to ukraine, mrs. dano. glad to see you, glory to the heroes, glad to see each other. well, we have received information that an anonymous survey among the military, in particular regarding their needs, is already being completed, right? well, accordingly, if you can share those data, then we ask you to do so, we understand that the needs, they are very different, well, there is a military component, there is the question of ammunition and so on and so on, so the needs, ah. you know, you surprised me by the fact that there are already talks about that such polls are going on, and it's actually a good thing, because well, let's put it this way, each of

us has someone on the front line, and when you're told from all sides that it's happening, then it's happening, then people are really being polled about what do they need, and we had three questions, what do they need, uh, second, i... the quality of what is being procured, is being procured by the ministry of defense, like it or not, and the third column we had, is the offer, what not is enough for the military in material and technical support, with material support, these surveys are still ongoing, and further analysis will be carried out of what servicemen need in the armed forces of... no one asked them, guys, what do you need in general, and i would also like

to note that everything that they are fighting in now, it was all development, well, let's say this, my first visit to the ministry of defense, as part of the volunteer landing force 15 -17th year, and all this was developed right then, and of course, that in the well everything develops, technologies develop, fabrics change. eh, and we need to keep up with these changes, and our military should receive only the best, and here is another, you know, such a moment, if we seize something that the armed forces of ukraine do not use, then we are spending, ladies, the funds of the taxpayers of ukraine including america. we completely agree with you, because we currently have money worth its weight in gold in the literal sense of the word, and we need this money as much as possible. to use, but is there already some intermediate understanding of what is not liked, what i like it, we understand that you will analyze all these data in some way, tweak them, but

still, i think that in the process of these surveys , a certain picture can already be seen, and you know, there are such requests from the military, and they are really the right requests , when, let's say, in european countries, well, let me give one example, shall we? in european countries, military pants for infantry are sewn on the knee pads, because when you have a knee pad attached from above, it slides off, and you have to either run or shoot there or fall on the ground, and these are the ones for, well, there was a request right away, and there were many requests regarding clothes that are not visible there in the thermal imagers and, well, let's say it like this... it is important for everyone, such things are still in the service of the ministry of defense for approval for operation, and such other things we did not receive, now due to the fact that we are reforming,

a very active main management of material support, but just meetings after meetings, and we will now change the nomenclature after analyzing the needs of the military and we will change approaches to quality and the main thing a call to business that hon representatives of business, absolutely the same rules of the game will be laid out for everyone, they will be transparent and understandable, so please do not be afraid, come in, see what the armed forces of ukraine need and become suppliers of the ministry of defense, and share, be kind, maybe someone from businessmen will already start preparing in advance, as you said about what will change with... well, we hope in the direction of improvement and supply of what concerns the provision of life in the literal sense of our fighters, that is , everything that is not secret. for today

day in the warehouses of the ministry of defense there are hundreds of thousands of first-aid kits according to tcc standards, this was material and technical assistance, so, let's say, the question of the first to medical aid and everything that the armed forces of ukraine needs in this regard, this question, let's say, has been resolved, and it all is, it all seems, and i have hope. that the shameful scandal with the turnstiles, which were broken by the chinese, will never happen again within the walls of the ministry of defense, because it is really just a shame. mrs. dana, we still have three minutes with you, we would like you to share with us we know that the children of our fallen heroes are the children of our fallen heroes, they also need the help of our volunteers and benefactors, because they

also need waste... from all those terrible events, it is about their rehabilitation, please share with us exactly those initiatives that your foundation is currently engaged in in this regard? you know, i can say that when i don't have enough strength, i leave the ministry of defense, well, in such a kind of not very cheerful state, it is the work in the fund that pulls me out, because what if you see the children who made our dreams come true... the whole month of may was the dreams of children who picked up followers and provided children with these gifts, it's really just inspiring, inspiring to do what you do, and you realize that this child has become although a little happier, she was not forgotten and was not deleted, let's say, from the citizens of ukraine, and now we have a summer without war campaign, this is

already the second year. we do the following promotion: children rest in bulgaria, children rest in transcarpathia, in families mainly where the missing or in captivity do not want to leave the country, that is why we have transcarpathia, we have bulgaria, this will go on until the end of summer, from august we will start collecting children for school, well, you know, like a mother, i understand , which will do the same for these children as i do for... we will collect them for school, we are now connected, i am very grateful to the klo network, which also connected with us in partnership relations, and they will deal with what they will to collect funds for, let's say, computers and devices for children in order to they could get an education and uh, if it's -

let's say, offline or online yes online online education, so that they have the opportunity to do it, because you know, when we paid for online courses, there were situations and many, when parents said, mother said that we don't have anything for the child to learn, that's why the bug is connected now, the private bank has a permanent project to raise funds for education. and we have a project with a new post office, so i am very grateful to all businesses, you know, the main mission that i want to convey to everyone is that raising these children is simply our task, if the ego yes, if you selfishly look at it from this point of view, ask in which country do i want my children to live, i want my children to live with these children, and these children were able to survive this grief. the adviser to the deputy minister

of defense of ukraine was on our airwaves, antin and i are finishing our work for you today, but our colleagues will continue to work for you ahead, so stay with espresso, see you tomorrow, take care. greetings, dear tv viewers, yan yavomelnyk and this is news. at home, ukraine returned 95 defenders from russian captivity, these are soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine, the national guard, border guards, all released men, 88 privates and...