weather on the espresso channel. good evening, we are from ukraine. today in the verdict program with serhii rudenko. the bridgeheads on the left bank are holding. the marines continue to hold their positions on the other side of the dnieper, despite the fact that the village of krynki was completely destroyed by russian shelling. are the russians capable of intensifying pressure on the south? the second term of ursula funderlajen. the re-elected president of the european commission called for the creation of a european defense union and criticized viktor orbán for appeasing putin. will it preserve unity? european union? generosity is crucial for peace. zelensky called on the european political community. show a collective will to

destroy russian missiles and drones, can ukraine count on more active western assistance? glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. over the next hour, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and ours. victory, let's also talk about the case of roman chervinsky, as well as why politicians allow themselves to be dirty dancing around the military leadership of ukraine, and of course, let's remember ursula funderline, who today was elected for the second time as the head of the european commission, which has plans for the formation of a european defense strategy in the context of russian aggression, cont.

hours, we will have three guests: general serhiy krivonos, our correspondent in strasbourg , tetiana vysotska, and political expert volodymyr tsibulko. however, before starting our big conversation, i suggest you watch the video of how the fighters of the 111th separate tro brigade stopped another attempt of the russian assault on its positions in donetsk region, hitting two bmp-3s. the first machine was disabled. with a shot, and the second blew into pieces, blowing up on mines. let's see how it all turned out.

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program, we will sum up the results of this vote, i want to introduce today 's first guest, serhiy krivonos, major general of the reserve, first deputy commander of the sso in 2016-19, ex-deputy secretary of the national security council. mr. general, i welcome you, thank you for being with us today. good evening, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. mr. general, let's start our conversation with situation at the front. as over the last few months, and maybe even months, the situation at the front is changing, and whether it is changing, or this ice rink, with which the russian federation is trying to roll our positions, they are very slowly trying to roll this ice rink to the west, well, accordingly , from the russian border, is difficult analyze the situation, what happened in the previous few months. let's still understand that

the capabilities of the army will always be reduced to the level of the state's ability to provide for the needs of the army, needs. in the army is provided in three directions, it is prepared, motivated people, as we call it, a military resource, next, it is shells, ammunition of a different type, food, fuel, equipment, it is related to the economic capacity of the state, and the third is the fortification equipment of the territories , on which our armed forces fight, these are the three main things that would allow us. to feel confident, taking into account the fact that russia has so far put, you know, on a long shelf its desire for such powerful assaults, deep raids, or such a deep offensive with the failures of the front, it didn't work out for them,

thanks to the capabilities of our armed forces, we also stopped the coups, nullified their desire to win quickly. and the fact that the war has already been going on for 10 years, and a full-scale war has been going on for 2.5 years, shows that the plans of the russians are constantly changing, and the latest statements of the same medvedev that they still plan that in 10 years they will be able to destroy ukraine, it shows that let's take their statements, in the 22nd year, how they saw everything for themselves with rose-colored glasses, but we thwarted their plans, as well as... their offensive capabilities are there, they are trying to attack in many areas and little by little, you know, with such a creeping spidery step , they bite off pieces of our territories, but at the same time they suffer terrible losses,

both in terms of people and equipment, so yes, in certain areas we have lost a certain amount of territory, but this... is much less than what the russians dreamed of, and for us it is necessary to understand that it is difficult for our guys at the front, they still need to solve these three issues, which i mentioned at the beginning of our conversation. mr. general, you are probably like no one else the other one knows very well the entire chronology of the decade of this war, the ten-year war, and you know very well the psychology of the russians, they have been fighting for 10 years against... they are going to fight for another 10 years, have you already mentioned the statement of the deputy secretary of the security council of the russian federation, dmitry medvedev, or do they have enough strength and capabilities in a ten-year perspective to fight and as he says to destroy

ukraine and break ukraine up to the state they dream of, well, they just have the desire, but... is it possible that it is much less, and what for the account, after all, of such an increase in sanctions little by little, despite the active work of the russian special services to circumvent these sanctions, the creation of front organizations, companies that try to bypass it through third -quarters of the country, they are trying to solve their needs for the provision of equipment and components for this equipment our armed forces, meanwhile, for 10 years... at this rate, they do not have enough strength, and this does not mean that we must relax and already work according to the principle, as was the case with coffee in yalta, in our there are also many issues that we have to solve, the russians will weaken faster

if we powerfully destroy their economy, destroy their enterprises, destroy their oil and gas industrial complex and not only processing plants, but also oil pipelines, gas pipelines, and oil and gas rigs, producing gas, that's how they make a lot of money, exporting the same oil and the same gas, primarily oil, exporting it to china, exporting it to india and then reselling it in the third quarter countries, this is what allows them fill the budget and pay crazy, i emphasize crazy money to my servicemen. because such a powerful impoverishment and already the brotherhood of the russian nation is precisely what pushes these people to take up arms, kill a ukrainian, steal his washing machine, take women's underwear

hanging in the yard and kill children, that's what they have, you know , the minimum of dreams that they see for themselves, and unfortunately, they are not very positive and not very human, so we... understand that they have limited opportunities, but we also have to raise our opportunities in order to destroy russia, to reduce russia's capability directly. to trade in anything, whatever, they mostly trade in raw materials, and here is our task - to reduce to zero, to bring about the complete inability to trade in what they make a lot of money from. let's return, mr. general, to the situation in the south, because over the past few days, various media outlets, referring to their sources in the general staff, have written about the critical situation in the kryniks, while at the same time the spokesperson of the operational-strategic group. tavria dmytro lykhova announced on the air of the national telethon that the situation in

markets is not as critical as interpreted by some media and bloggers. let's listen to what mr. lykhova said. our key message is as follows: the defense forces of ukraine continue to carry out combat missions on the left bank of the dnieper, in particular in the area of ​​the settlement of krynka. however, most of the main positions are true. ukrainian troops in this village as a result of intense combined and long-term enemy fire were completely destroyed, and the village itself simply turned into a pile of stones, it was completely destroyed by enemy shelling, this is already a place that has not been inhabited for a long time, it is a place in which it is practically impossible to hold a defense, but ukrainian defenders will continue to be in certain positions and on bridgeheads, that is how they are in the plural. on the left bank of the dnieper. mr. general, lykhovii said that

it is impossible to gain defense there, but is it possible to hold the bridgehead there, from which, as i understand it, the offensive on the left bank of the dnieper is to begin. it is good that you have such confidence about our offensive on the left bank of the dnieper, you have such an understanding, the distraction of the enemy, perhaps cause the attack in a completely different place, but between however, with such actions, we are drawing upon ourselves a huge number of russian troops, which the russians could use with great success in other areas of the front. do you remember when they left the left bank of ukraine, from the kherson region, what a huge number of troops, they then transferred it to the donbass, and how much, let's say, the situation there became more complicated, so for a long time, more than six months, our plazdar. in the krynyk area, and not only the cossacks of the camp,

attracted a huge number of russians, we burned a huge amount of equipment, killed a huge number of katsaps, and this also played its positive role and gave its positive result, and where there will be an offensive, there will be an offensive when it goes, this direct question should not be covered on the air, who is involved in this , understands that how much more it is necessary... it is necessary to do a lot of work, and it is also not necessary to create a tragedy, even if we lose this bridgehead, because many people say that i also have certain information, but until the general staff has not clearly stated its position, well, it is already agreement and their request that no to hurry in front of those who must officially indicate it, we already had examples when the general staff of the ee recognized the abandonment of certain settlements significantly. later than that happened, therefore, any settlement that

we leave, we must understand that there is simply such a, you know, lunar landscape, there is simply absolutely no ability for people to maintain defense, and plus, to understand correctly, how difficult it is, it is not just difficult, but titanically difficult to hold on to these frontiers, and it is even more difficult to provide soldiers across the dnipro river, as far as... logistics, as far as the enemy actively attacks any accumulation of our people, near boats, near boats, in general in the area of ​​crossings, attacks with drones, attacks fpv with drones, lancets, strikes with mortars, mortars , artillery, it's very, it's hell, it's real hell, so to ask more from the boys than what they can do, well , it would be too much, you know, risky, whoever wants to condemn them, i guess let them be there first and then will judge already. well, here, mr.

general, we already talked with you in on the air about those commentators, political commentators, who try to evaluate the actions of the military leadership of ukraine, the commander-in-chief, first zaluzhnyi, and now syrskyi, we will not mention the name of this people's deputy of ukraine, because, well, in principle, she is. a small person in general in the history of ukrainian politics, but we constantly, constantly see this political torpedoing of mariana. and we see how she tries to sow some doubts or give some evaluations to uh generals, combat generals who have experience in uh managing army, in your opinion, why is this happening and why does the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine not put his

comrades in their place, because during the war it is simply sabotage against the ukrainian army, against the leadership. of the armed forces of ukraine, and open sabotage, and that is what its people's deputy maryana bezugla is doing, resembles a scenario that was successfully implemented by the german command in 1917, when due to the discrediting of the leadership of the russian army for six months, simply destroyed the russian army and the germans withdrew the whole country from the first world war. scenario. moscow, they remember how it destroyed them, and they are probably trying to correct this scenario inside our country at the expense of certain people's deputies, and this is the most terrible thing, and when certain issues concerning the leadership are discussed, then, the people's people are sure deputies, that the military, following this very example, will begin to discuss and ask

questions to the political leadership of the country, why certain simple things are not done. understandable for of any normal citizen with a normal education, things like the transfer of the economy to functioning in the conditions of the soviet period, the transfer of local self-government bodies and central bodies of executive power to work during the war, where the mobilization plan for ukrainian enterprises and much more a lot of things, so if they think that they can, and the rest is not possible, you should still think that ukrainians clearly understand, and if it is possible for someone, then it is possible for everyone. and here is the open destruction, subordination and complete understanding military discipline in the armed forces is not beneficial, why won't mr. zelensky shut ms. maryana's mouth, because maryana directly receives these and all these narratives from the cave

couples, and this is most understandable, and such things when... we we hear accusations from the pechersk hillbillies for criticizing the government, for criticizing the leadership and the discovery that these are the mouthpieces of the kremlin, that is maryana, then who is the spearhead of the kremlin, even though you say mouthpieces, but this destroys the systematic, ideological, destroys such a wonderful information in quotation marks - a psychological operation that is absolutely not beneficial of the ukrainian armed forces and in general the situation inside the country. mr. general, but well, we see how over the past few years there have been cases that were initiated both against general marchenko and against you after the defense of the zhulyana airport, when you were in charge of the defense of this airfield in february and march, and then you were accused of being there damaged this runway, now we see the case of roman

chervinskyi, yesterday or the day before yesterday. he was released on bail in one case, today the shevchenkiv district court chose him preventive measure in the form of house arrest to the former spy, he is suspected of receiving a bribe in the amount of 100,000 dollars, this is how roman chervinsky and his lawyer commented on the decision of the shevchenkivskyi court, let's hear. you see how unprofessional both the prosecutors and the judge are, i don't care... no arguments, in general it is clear that this is simply fulfilling some kind of slavish duty to the political power that leads our country today, so thank you everyone, we continue our fight together, the judge is just in the middle during the process, she got up and went to receive instructions, and

at the same time, i apologize, i will correct it, she did not stand up, but she was stood up. she didn’t go, but they left her, well, yes, it’s more correct to say that, yes, but well, we see the result, that’s why such a result with such a psychology, i’ll say yes, process, this is an unequivocal victory, mr. general, it’s quite like that the trend is dangerous because the armed forces have the highest trust rating, the military that protects us has the highest trust rating, maybe it's... there is political jealousy, and in this way the team the current one is trying to get rid of those who do not like them, who crossed the road there, or someone told the truth. about one thing or another, you are also the general against whom the current rulers are constantly trying to inspire something, you can also add general

pavlovskyi and major malakhov, who were also imprisoned in the butchery, and who also made a lot of efforts to protect our ukraine, and for some reason a real thief. about real spies, about real representatives of the fifth column, the question is somehow not raised at all, let's remember what everyone forgot about the destruction of the construction beam in december of last year, everyone has forgotten many, many more such examples, inaction in quotes, this is just real inaction regarding the protection of the critical infrastructure of the ukrainian economy, especially regarding... the energy economy, so there are many questions, and the fact that the government

tries to put pressure on those who have their own point of view and their own directly rigid position on certain issues, which are related to the realities of the government's inaction, both those who say it and those who support, and generally show that any citizen who has his own point of view can be put behind bars, on whom it works, but ... those who they try to put in betsigarny, it does not work. we still forgot roman dudin, thanks to whose actions kharkiv survived, we forgot the mayor of chernihiv, a city that survived, but despite the russian offensive, we can cite more than enough such examples. we also remembered the dead people's deputies who, for some reason, died in the kherson hospital. such examples are enough. power fights with any, you know, people's attempts to tell the truth, tries to manipulate us with information, well, one of such powerful examples of information manipulation is,

after all, that damn telethon, where representatives of the opposition channels are completely absent and incomprehensible channels with incomprehensible journalists are present, who there are hanging pink and green lekshina in the ears of ukrainians, and then about... some such incomprehensible promises, the sound of that, from the lips of the same padalyak or aristovych, and then ukrainian society begins, you know, wildly to penetrate into their confidence of victory, and it is probably beneficial to someone, i ask the question, who will be responsible for this, who brought these people and who gave them the right to hang lekshina in the ears of ukrainians, well, you mentioned inaction, but that is also evil. inactivity in office, correct, that is , someone will have to answer for it anyway, well, at least those who are five or six managers who manage ukraine, absolutely correct, and

pay attention, an interesting point, after all, the surnames of these managers, for that they answer who they are and how he tries to solve the issue, as well as the simplest manipulation, when the advisers of the head of the office... no one gave me the right, i invented it myself, and you believed me, this is your responsibility, so ukrainians, be much more like that, you know, tougher in assessments information manipulation, and the example is simple. and the same finland, where the basis of information security is given in the upper grades at school, where children are taught to perceive the correct information from any sources, for mass

information slaughter, to whom this information is relevant, for what, what it can lead to, it is not beneficial to the authorities, and the authorities, our authorities, are trying to manipulate and tell noodles, specifically to the naukka us, and the most important thing is to bear responsibility for their statements, if you analyze about... everything, everything the existence of a monomajority of greens, then pluses with minuses and black with white, will merge quite often. thank you, mr. general, for the conversation, it was serhiy krivonos, major general of the reserve. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and facebook. for those who are currently watching us on these platforms. please vote in our poll. today we ask you about this. feel like a european, and also join our pages on these platforms, and if you watch us on tv, you can

vote by phone lines. if you feel european (0800-211-381) no (0800-211-3822) all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. well, the one who is truly himself, or rather, the one who really feels like a european, this is tatyana vysotska, our special correspondent who works in european institutions, today she watched how the new old or the old, new was chosen. head of the european commission. tatyana, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our conversation. i congratulate sergey. ukraine is definitely europe. ukraine is definitely europe, but why do we ask ukrainians whether they feel european, because sociological services in ukraine quite often conduct this survey, and we are interested to see how the dynamics of our viewers is different from the dynamics of sociological services. so, today

the european parliament re-elected. ursula fondeyan, head of the european commission for a second five-year term. there were many statements, and rather serious statements. let's start with the most important thing, said ursula fonderlen, what awaits europe in the next 5 years during her presidency of the european commission? important trends are that today's vote for ursula fonteren, as well as yesterday's vote for ukrainian. on long-term support of the european union to ukraine demonstrated one important fact: despite the fact that the european parliament now has far more far-right politicians, the european parliament remains pro-ukrainian and pro-european, and moreover, the number of supporters of ukraine is much greater than the number of supporters of ursula fonderline, because 401 voted for fonderline deputy only, and for the ukrainian resolution 495 deputies, and

here is one important one... i want to emphasize that ukraine was supported almost entirely by the fraction of european conservatives and of reformists, which is usually classified as extreme right, is a faction led by italian prime minister giorgia meloni and her party brothers of italy and polish law and justice, they gave the ukrainian resolution 69 votes out of 78 possible, so it can actually be said that in ... the parliament now has almost 500 pro-ukrainian deputies, and this is very cool for the future, how the european parliament will vote on the initiatives that ursula fonden will present during the next five years. so, what ursula fondeyan said today, she spoke before deputies with a keynote speech, and first of all, she recorded such a moment that the european union will continue to give

everything to ukraine. it needs to survive and win, and the european union itself will also become stronger, the european union will create a european defense union, and that time has come, said ursela fonberlejen, and as one of the steps a european air defense shield will be created, we will to hope that one day ukraine will also enter it, and possibly very soon, ursula fonden as well sent... a very important message to hungary, to the prime minister of hungary viktor orbán, let's listen if there is an opportunity and direct speech about it. russia is betting on the softness of europe and the west, and some in europe are playing along with it. two weeks ago, the prime minister of an eu country visited moscow. this so-called peace mission was nothing more than a peacemaking mission. it was an overt

pacification mission. that's why putin's planes hit the children's hospital, this strike was not a mistake, it was a signal, a signal from the kremlin, which freezes all of us have blood in our veins, and europe will stand with ukraine, as much as ukraine needs it to win, emphasized fonderlyen and added that this is our message, our european signal to putin, that was such a powerful speech. today in the european parliament, and let's hope that ursela fonberlein fulfills her promises. well, but, but viktor orban himself was at the meeting today, and i know that last time you tried, did you approach viktor orban and try to communicate with him, how is he feeling, that is, how?