literally there, what is it or the government, what is there something there specifically and we must not storm there something there a little bit and withdraw from the front with all the freedom and go storm the bank literally yes or that is all well and the second is that i say well split what is this that's literally the answer of the russian-speaking people, and that's where i think they're becoming more active, that's what i think we have to wait for, what kind of story is that? counter-propaganda measures of the ukrainian authorities, ukraine in these conditions, because it is clear that they will rock this boat against the background of what is currently happening in our country with with electricity, against the background of everything, they are trying to electrify society, what can we oppose to this and what should we oppose? well, look, you and i have already outlined several points of mind to which the appeal will go, so in this case

, in any counter-propaganda, it is necessary to understand what the propaganda is for, what the goal is, not what they say, but what they are for they say what action they want to induce the masses to take, and we say the formation of one against the other, the right, therefore the representatives of the same the right-wing forces, those same freedoms, must make a statement regarding, clearly identifying the aggressor and... talking about the danger of any mutinies, any disturbances inside and about revenge, that they will sort it out, that they keep control of this matter and what in any case, russia will get retribution for iryna farion, right now, if we were to see these shells for irina farion, right now, this should be, there should be speeches by the same people who are identified with the same... displaced people,

that is, with by someone who is a refugee in lviv, as lviv is the city that welcomed us, and lviv is under threat, because again russia is stirring up mutual enmity here and everything else, that is, these things now, it should not be the government, it should be people, representatives, symbols of the same communities, well, in the background of what happened today in lviv, of course the current government also adds various topics so that the society is restless and we... we will talk about it, because the story with iryna farion will obviously continue and we will track the details on our broadcast of how this case will move, how it will move this is an investigation, regarding a terrorist act, regarding an attempt to kill iryna farion, this week, yesterday, the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted draft law number 11340 on the basis of the agreement with the investigation on the admission of guilt in

the criminal proceedings for corruption crimes, there it is said that people , who will be caught in corruption, can pay some fee in the state and turn in their accomplices there and get out of the impact of the legislation, the judicial and investigative entire component, the chairman of the board of the counteraction center of corruption vitaly shabunin believes that this draft law will allow a corrupt official... to legally buy himself out of prison, i will quote mr. shabunin: you, people's deputy, or ministers, you were taken for a bribe, no problem, you paid the fine, compensated for the losses, go all out, have fun, no prison for you, even confiscation will be an option, well, considering the fact that monopower implies monoresponsibility, and monopower also implies a monopoly on all corrupt acts, practically, that take place in the state, we are talking about the fact that servants... of the people actually create a mechanism

for which they can pay a ransom when they are caught for corruption, and in this way live peacefully, it is interesting that the detectives on busap were all against this, representatives of the committee on law enforcement activities say that this is a norm, as it were, which the europeans insist on, and it is necessary for joining the european union, but i don't... i think that vitaly shabunin would write about the fact that this bill is terrible, so that our western partners were satisfied with such a bill, against the background in general, all these corruption scandals that arise and explode in our country almost every week, and the representatives of the ukrainian government are connected to them, what do you, colleagues, think, whether or not this draft law can become

the one that will trigger the ukrainian society, because everyone understands that a war is going on, that corrupt officials, as they were, will remain in ukraine, that bribes, as they were... will remain, and this also cannot suit the society that paid a high price for the war with russia and for the defense of ukrainian independence, ola, well, we were just talking about the fact that russia carries out terrorist attacks in various spheres in order to shake ukrainian society, and it seems to me that in parallel, well, probably people who work in the same... together with russia, because even i can't understand it otherwise , are conducting exactly the same campaign to demoralize society with, well, in fact, they are undermining, well, the opportunities for protection, i will explain my point, because these are all one law on how

to pay off military service, another law on how to pay off theft , well, give a share and go go for a walk well, tell me, how should this affect the fighting army, the part of society that actively helps the front, how does it affect everything? i believe that it has such an effect that people simply ask themselves the question: wait, and then, why do we have to give so much in order for this country to survive, here behind our backs, people pay off themselves perfectly, steal, buy off and live with... there is the best life, that is, it is essentially an undermining of the country from the inside and demoralization and undermining itself, i emphasize once again, not just some kind of corruption, anti-corruption policy, and by the way, sorry, that

anti-corruption policy, corruption is not the biggest problem of ukraine, it is the undermining of the ability to defend, to defend, because it simply undermines the morale of fighting. army of the direction, this is my attitude to this story, because it all goes one after the other, all these initiatives, they literally do not let you breathe, every week there is a new stupid initiative, well, in these initiatives, you can certainly trace, well, someone's skillful hand , because in principle, well, it was possible to predict that this draft law will cause a wide reaction, a big reaction and... it is not entirely clear what it is needed for, we have in the criminal code the opportunity to conclude an agreement with the investigation, there is something else to write out , in addition, how did you get caught stealing , then you can give something there and go for a walk, why is

this this this is already a real redemption from the fact that they did not conduct an investigation, did not find out what the losses were, just some literally, well , exactly what it is called. to atone, this is directly called, to atone, and a whole bunch is being created, to be paid off there, to be paid off here, to be paid off somewhere else, and what is this in general, well, a country of ransoms, i would say so, because in principle, what happens in general with these schemes, how people are transported abroad, is the same the army buyout scheme, but a shadowy scheme that exists in the country and which i am also thinking about. the representatives of the ukrainian authorities know and absolutely know how they, how they transport these people abroad with these beads, well, i believe that, for example, this story with this one of the founders to the private bank, to mogolyubov, it was also

made public in this row, this is another one of those, you know, another brick in the same one, when, well, you can just sit in a compartment, move... with someone else's documents and nobody does anything , because otherwise, i think they even called the price 2,000 dollars, that is, it is the same story, just to show that while you are fighting here, here people are hoping there, well, they have paid off and live, or whether this can lead to the fact that people, who fight and people who know the price of life and death, that they can well to take up arms at some particular moment. er, at a certain stage and say: listen, well, everyone already got it, well, it’s not possible anymore, well, not necessarily at this moment, not necessarily there in six months, but after the end of the war they will say, listen, we have i'm tired of living, because while we

were at war for 2.5 or three years, people packed themselves up, bought houses, vacationed abroad, bought themselves tickets to the west, like god-lovers, then they'll come back, they'll again claim that exactly well, the thing is, this is a very important question, who is it aimed at, yes is it aimed at those, at the division of those who are fighting? and those who do not fight for one reason or another, this is not about the confrontation between a conditional military officer and a conditional official, it is a confrontation between a conditional civilian of yesterday, who fulfilled his duty, came to the tsk, followed a summons, and his neighbor, a classmate, and a colleague who at that moment was packing, packing, buying out and everything else, this is aimed at that, and therefore this feeling of injustice, it is very... important for me, for example, i understand why it was accepted, what kind of law it was , ibid in part, for example,

theft up to 300 is decriminalized, well, conditionally, a person stole 300, give nine and go for a walk, because it is cheaper to take nine from him than to plant and feed him, but when corruption is pushed into it, what are you you are right, there is none , because we have it, you can take it, go to an agreement with the investigation, turn in the accomplices, then... then they demand a bribe from you, you can come, report it, get your 10% of the bribe amount, that's all beautiful, why was it, why, let's remember that when the mobilization law was passed, which, by the way, at the beginning madame bezugla and arahamia worked on it, they both created some kind of subcommittee and for a long year and a half they studied this issue there, and do you remember why, at the same time, we have an attack on a hostage house, and in in the same posts, there, well, through the post, they write about mobilization in our country, and what do you think if it's women. for example, to mobilize, but she threw it in, her suggestions that she threw them in,

and what if they were fired, and what else was there, that is, she had some such seam, well, she is a representative of the government that discredited, in this case, we see that we have another process going on here in parallel, in addition to the confrontation of those who fight, who do not fight, those who are included in the struggle for the country and who try to avoid it , we have another component here, that is... precisely people who, for example, our foreign partners, who put forward such demands to us, because we have partial legislation, we know that both summonses in our country and imprisonment , you who cannot atone for stealing a bun, he will reach sooner than the one who stole billions, and people know it, they perceive this reality that way, and now they, and there they say, no, listen, these are the western partners, this is what they want, if you want in the eu, then let you have corrupt officials.

one more element, when the bill on increasing excise taxes on fuel is passed, it too, we, that is, we are going to europe, and that is, people who will feel their wallets now will say, listen, well, why do we need europe? if we all sit on generators, fuel, excise tax on fuel is increased by 2 hryvnias, by three, by four, per liter increases, and this will still affect the products, including the goods and services that we consume, that is, europe also speaks, well, you mentioned maryana bezuglova, she continues to discredit the already military leadership of the new syrian , because it is starting to torpedo, it is a political torpedo that... simply torpedoes the military leadership of ukraine, i had

major general serhiy kryvonos on the air yesterday, and he says that criticism of the ukrainian command is an open sabotage against the armed forces forces of ukraine. let's listen to what general kryvonos said, why didn't mr. zelensky shut ms. maryana's mouth, because maryana directly receives these and all her narratives from... the hills of pechersk, and this is most understandable, and such things when we hear accusations from the pechersk hills for criticizing the government, for criticizing the leadership, and they shout that these are the mouthpieces of the kremlin, then maryana, then who is the spearhead of the kremlin? .

why does bezugla do this, that is, it is connected with the great public trust in the armed forces, and in such a way, when, when, when the same people, the same insolence, and the office of the president attacked the hard worker, we said even then that this is the beginning of the process, this is the beginning of the process. eliminate the armed forces, make them unpopular, but they are really trying to make the armed forces untrustworthy, that is, they... try to kill confidence in the armed forces during the war just because it is a threat in terms of electoral terms, this is the first , secondly, i think, secondly, there is one more thing, because maryana is crazy, she doesn't just write posts, no, she does much worse, but i agree with mr. kryvonos here, because she

literally conducts sabotage, she comes into contact with officers. of the armed forces, which are fighting , including in front-line positions, and she is trying to incite them to speak out against the command directly, that is, you understand, that is , in this way she is simply trying, well , to collapse the vertical structure of the command of the armed forces and make some people trusted by those they think so... to the office of the president of people in the armed forces, literally like commissioners of some kind, you know, but they are not public, because it is, well, it is even worse, because they are not public, it is not some kind of structure, it is just some individual people who are incited in personal communication by mrs. bezugla, and it's actually terrible, because

it creates, it sows mistrust in units already, it's not between different ones, even in a unit. in units to their command, to their subordinates, she tries to demand from them some information that may be confidential, she should not know it, the lady is stupid and should not talk about her from the screen and put people there later in some such situation that they come under fire, as she has already done it more than once, that is , she is engaged in this, she is trying to create some kind of structure of some people within the armed forces, so... in these various, well , a parallel one, relatively speaking, but again yes, it is not the management structure, it is the very incitement, because these people do not make decisions, they do not have the authority, it does not empower them with anything, it just sits in their ears and tells them how bad their management is, well, this activity can be qualified as a subversive activity,

activity, i.e. that’s how they should be, that’s how russians work, they work exactly like mrs. bezugla, who the hell… collects people on her telegram channels, by the way, you track russian propagandists, their programs, they’ve been quoting her there for the last week , that syrskyi is already ready to sign any capitulation, there is something else, that is, they quote it very actively, that is, it has become the basis for their propaganda rhetoric, and this is also very dangerous, what is more dangerous larisa, such activity is not only pointless, because many public people on... are trying something talk, but bezugala is probably the most important political torpedo that i know, well, look, it seems to me, here i want to clarify, in my opinion, this is the danger from the zsu, the popularity of the zsu for the authorities, as it is electoral - this is the reason that is explained to the leadership, so that it sincerely thinks that it is protected by its ratings, to the political

leadership of the country, in reality what is happening, what olya told us, so we all... know about such cases, we know that she does, that is, this is a parallel structure of commissars, my friends, and this is a century ago, and this is us, we saw it, we saw it, this is choosing voting commanders, we saw it, this is the collapse of the army, simply this is the collapse of the army, that’s how it was, we lost the country, that is, in fact, the same patterns that the bolsheviks used it against ukraine 100 years ago, they are using it... now we see a person, but this is what surprises me, why a special service, why is this possible at all, this is not, no one is hiding, this is what surprises me , that is, such a derr, you see, she writes directly, write me here, on this phone, call, and before that, i remind you, such posts are direct, write to me directly here, names, lists,

addresses, wrote this, like him, sasha dubinsky, and then the russians p... already knew who to kill, well, that is, why we we don't investigate it, well, i just don't understand, in our country the legislation is not enough, it is enough, that is , more than one criminal case has already been done there, well , some private person does not have the right to collect the data of military personnel, he does not have the right to collect data about, well, the situation in the army in such a way way, there is simply no right, it has its own powers, you come to the committee, that is literally work there. don't collect there, write to me, call me there, well, but the security service of ukraine and our counter-intelligence should have reacted to what was happening, and perhaps our special services would have been engaged in this, so that... they did not work against roman chervinskyi, who this week he was released on bail of uah 9 million, but the next day the shevchenkiv district court

of the capital ordered him to be under 24-hour house arrest, and this was also terrible, because colonel roman chervinskyi, who was one of those officers who was preparing a special operation against the wagnerites, during has been sitting in butsygarn for the last year, and this... is also completely incomprehensible, no one can explain why this is happening at all, and why we, we did not receive answers to questions about the same wagnerites, by the way, mariana bezugla was the head of the parliamentary temporary the commission that investigated this, and this should also be remembered, but bezugla sits and collects data from the military, and roman chervinskyi, who fought in the war and who worked against collaborators, including in donbas. and tsemakh can be mentioned, and zakharchenko and many cases that roman chervinskyi had, or this this injustice, which a part

of ukrainian society knows and feels in the case of chervinskyi, could this also be the reason for this rift, which we are talking about and the reason for this larisa, listen, well, this is also sabotage, because the symbol of chervinsky, such the symbol itself, like iryna farion, like zaluzhny, well, that is... a symbol, and when we are now, well, we are with you, look, we will not take any case, there is some informational component around it, which looks like random, but all this is included in one picture, instead of lagging behind that chervinsky, but now, why, well, why, when you have dubinsky without remorse, why are you doing it, especially since he was already under house arrest, well, what is the question, he is an officer, what is he going to do, but no. they are starting to press it, they can explain it in different ways, and wagnerian, whatever, and whatever, that the government is hiding there, but we see that behind all this there is a mad

mistrust, a mad mistrust of some sections of the population towards others, society, the army, officials, all this, all this brawling, in fact, we see signs of loss of control, and unfortunately, the government in its arrogance, you see, we are the most brilliant here, we are here fighting for... the country, we have ratings or no ratings, doesn't even realize that when this mess is pushed to them in the form of a high rating, they don't even understand that they just know how the namikish was conducted, that is, this is not the reason why all this is unfolding, you are right, there is someone, or a group of people who systematically there, there through legislative branches, through informational, through that, because of that, just throws in these points... on which we see that our country is already shaking, as a result of the concrete feeling that the struggle has meaning, but here it is lost, and people

who, they will not leave, in fact, have no right, they will not go to fight for any bank, they have trenches, they are perfectly aware of their own, but this is the fact that ukraine, as a single organism, a solidarity organism, is collapsing. and it is centralized, and this must be investigated, and this network, because what a crazy network of crooks and agents there must be, and this must be investigated. thank you, larisa, olya, who will investigate this? i don't know, it seems to me that the main problem in general, that's where it all comes from, is that someone, very somehow directed at the banks , pours out their ears there. that there could be some kind of junta, a conspiracy of generals, a conspiracy of the military, well , about what, this is actually one of the leading

russian narratives that they constantly tried to throw here and threw it as a result was sent to the bank, and it is precisely this desire to destroy the army, which comes, well, from the authorities, from those people who cooperate with power, precisely from there, in order to prevent the formation in... the army of some forces that can claim political power, and, well, this did not happen, but until they started disbanding the army, no one there thought about it at all, in general in principle , you understand what the problem is, and on the other hand , the question arises when you have an army that is fighting, that is loyal to the political power, and suddenly you start to fear this army, and why are you afraid of it, suddenly, what do you do? that you should be afraid of the army that fights for the country, why are you doing such a thing, i want to ask how you do you feel guilty about what you are afraid of?

this is a mutiny in the army, which will be sent against you at a time when the army is fighting, actually defending the country, that is, and this i think is the biggest question that we all have to ask, to say, what then, what are these people afraid of? obviously, we will find the answers to these questions in another program, we have to finish colleagues, olga len, larisa voloshina were guests of today's program, thank you for participating in the program, colleagues, let me remind you that we spent the entire broadcast. survey we asked you, friends, about whether corruption has decreased in ukraine over the past 5 years, let's look at the results of a television poll, 5% believe that corruption has decreased in 5 years, well 5 years of zelensky's presidency, 95% believe that it has not. these are the results of this survey, it was the verdict of vaccination program serhii rudenko, i wish you good health, take care of yourself and your relatives, goodbye.

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