they would like to help the displaced people, someone should do this too. in a word, ukraine is not just a territory, it is each of us. the most blessed patriarch of the ukrainian greek catholic church, lubomyr huzar, once said that loving ukraine does not mean simply loving the territory, it means loving every ukrainian, which is much more difficult, and the state must demonstrate its ability to love every ukrainian. therefore, i initiate the creation of this ministry of demography. diaspora, the deputy prime minister, who will take care of these issues, in order to each of you had one place where he could go and get all the services, get all the explanations, get help from our state, so that we all felt like one whole. the worst thing that exists in our country is an attempt to oppose, to oppose east and west, to oppose those who left ukraine and those who remained here. this is the wrong way, it does not just divide us, it leads us to...

disaster, the right way is to unite, it is to love every ukrainian, we will all love our homeland, and we all must together we will win, good evening to the viewers of espresso tv channel, political club. today i am conducting vitaliy portnikov will not be there, we expect next week already, and today, traditionally, in this program, there is always analytics with our guests, with our experts, with people who know what they are doing, who will be able to really tell you more about the situation in the country , in the world and about what to expect in the near future, so today, of course... we will

talk about the military topic, and about politics, and about foreign affairs, foreign policy, well, and about a lot of other things another so, let's start, perhaps, with the military topic, with the topic of further shelling of our country, with the topic of how russia continues to attack our country, what is the situation at the front, here. anatoly hrabchynskyi, the deputy director of the company that deals with rebs, an aviation expert, should be in touch now. anatoly, i am very glad to see you. congratulations, andriy. anatolia, let's start with you, probably, with this next shelling of our country this night, right? again there was an attack by drones type shakhead, there was a ballistic attack. before that

, the occupiers tried to fire at our energy facilities in the north and in the center of the country, and by the way, information appeared yesterday and has been circulating for the last few days that the enemy's strategic aviation is ready for further attacks, so let me know how you will characterize this attack and whether we can really expect, according to your data, further massive shelling from the occupying state in the coming days. again, let's start with the fact that almost every night the enemy uses shahedis bombers trying to load our air defense system. here it should be noted that, in principle, if we talk about the statistics of the use of drones of the shachet type, the number is now slightly decreasing, because , after all, we see that russia, although it produces them, or rather collects them on its territory, but nevertheless no less it is very much still

related to supplies from iran, and now we are seeing some reduction in the number, for example, the use of these missile drones. of course, the enemy can accumulate, the enemy can plan, use, for example, them together with mass shelling with rockets, but nevertheless we see that rockets were also used that night, which is true from the tactical aviation of the kh-59, kh-69 missiles, which actually were. oppressed by means of radio-electronic warfare, this is quite such positive news, because in fact, means of radio-electronic warfare are now actively developing in ukraine, here it should be noted that companies engaged in the production of means already have access to certain components that are produced directly by the military ours such necessary means, but nevertheless the number of aircraft... here 95 to olenie and to

engels, this may be due to the fact that in fact the enemy is actively using these types of aircraft, and recently we have also seen that it has decreased. the number of planes also decreased, how much they took off, this is due to the limited resource of these planes, because here it should be noted that the planes were produced back in the soviet union, some planes are 50, 60 years old, the location of these strategic aviation was for , to try to combine or take something now some details from the other planes in order to put things in order, because we see that the number of planes has recently decreased to 95. anatolia, but... this attempt by the russians to attack, or at least to feel the ground at the expense of attacks on the capital, that is, we we can see that over the past seven days there have been several attempts, either by shaheeds or, relatively speaking, it is not yet known

what kind of unmanned aerial vehicles , to probe the ground regarding attacks on the capital, whether the suburbs, or kyiv, who... heard explosions, eventually appeared in social networks information that this is some other type of unmanned aerial vehicle, how do you assess this tactic, is it also preparation for attacks on the capital in the future? in any case, the use of drones is used by russia as a direct attempt to break through to determine where the main radar systems are located, the air defense system, which allows us to detect and destroy enemy warheads or missiles, therefore, in principle, it is mostly russia trying to break through possible measures in the future for what it will be to be used for missiles, so we actually see that even now

the altitudes at which the same drones begin to fly are significantly reduced, and this, on the contrary, loads very powerfully loads our air defense forces, but nevertheless we see... that we are coping, knocking down these air forces, but it should be noted that in any case , the key challenge currently facing the air defense forces of ukraine is the creation of a low-altitude radar field that will allow detection of such objects at low altitudes uavs in order to destroy them in automatic mode, we already see the first training on the use of, for example , drone techniques for destruction. and wing-type drones to destroy russian reconnaissance bopols, so in principle in the near future, i think we will see a ready-made system that will work in automatic mode, detect and destroy. another question concerns

the occupation's reconnaissance drones, their number of applications is increasing, we can see that, of course, they are flying in the south and east along the battle line. yes, but very often these drones are used in chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast, kyiv oblast, even in the rear regions, as evidenced by the fact that the occupiers have now begun to use reconnaissance drones so often, and is this possibly related to by what they're looking for, whether it's f-16s or f-16 airfields, so there's that theory as well. what are your thoughts on this? certainly the enemy is trying to identify any military positions, for example, air defense systems, fortified areas of our defense forces. why recently, more reconnaissance bepols have been used, because the defense forces significantly affected the capabilities of the russian

federation by hitting a large number of radars used by russia for, for example, reconnaissance of the territory of ukraine, this is a container, this is a thief. this is also the sky, which were destroyed in the temporarily occupied crimea, let's go back to the fact that russia lost two 50 aircraft that helped the russians detect certain movements or, for example, certain positions of the ukrainian defense forces, so right now the enemy actively began to use porlan's intelligence chambers, the hall in order to find and receive certain information, because without those means that were destroyed. and russia is somewhat blinded, so now it uses this method, using reconnaissance fire. if we are talking about the f-16, then i have already mentioned them, volodymyr zelenskyi stated in one of the interviews that 18 months have passed

since they at least started talking about the f-16, to expect them in ukraine, they have not yet reached us, as they say, they are gone now, at least officially. on the territory of ukraine, according to information, there should be six boards by the end of the summer and supposedly by the end of the year, by the end of the year, by the end of the year. we see the transfer, rearrangement, movement of this date, getting the dream f-16. in fact, if we speak in terms of time, ukraine's transition to f-16 aircraft involves a two-year program. of course, this two-year program is due to the fact that even cadets who have no experience are studying. to piloting, we are talking about the fact that we also train pilots who have combat experience, that is, they had to retrain for

a new type of aircraft, gain access to operation, in principle, if we talk about such training, it takes from three to four months, where sometimes it can take six months, but it should be noted that this is retraining and this is an admission to piloting, we say that our pilots need to prepare and perform combat tasks well, use. all the weapons that are on the plane and it takes a certain amount of time to in order to improve these capabilities, so in principle, it should be noted that, in fact, our pilots are currently improving their capabilities and practicing various types of combat missions, perhaps even planning them on the territory of the russian federation, here it should be noted that sweden has transferred to us, it transmits to us the aircraft of the long-range organizational detection of the saap, and this, too, must be reconciled ... in order to learn how to work properly with these aircraft, it also takes some time, of course, and from our side

diplomacy, on the part of us, our president and the head of the country, such messages should be heard in relation to our western partners in order to accelerate the possibility of obtaining aircraft after all, because in any case, aircraft that would, for example, perform tasks for air defense the space from massive missile strikes could be used already after a certain short period of pilot training, because we are talking about engaging to close the airspace without participating in hostilities, well, in principle, we we see the first information, which it predicts, at first there will be a certain number of aircraft that will deal with the protection of the airspace, and then other aircraft will be added for, for example, striking the territory of temporarily occupied ukraine or the territory of the russian federation, certainly in my opinion , well, in my opinion , the planes could already be in ukraine. in principle , all terms confirmed that they could have been as early as may, but it is clear that there are certain

elements that our western partners are trying to improve, because it is necessary to remember even the statement of the danish, the danish air force commander, jan dam, who noted that a very powerful aircraft and ukrainian pilots need to be prepared very well, so i understand that on the part of our westerners... there is also a certain delay, because they care about that our pilots should be well prepared for when we will receive, well, of course, by the end of the summer we will receive a certain number of planes, by the end of the year i predict that there will be a little more than 20 planes, but if we are talking about the preparation of airfields, we we see how the occupiers are constantly launch missile strikes on airfields, possible basing in their opinion, again f-16, this is a different kind of airfield. starting from kyiv oblast, ending with khmelnytsky oblast, lviv oblast and so on, right? at

the expense of this, do we have, in your opinion, again, this infrastructure is being prepared as much as possible, and is this not a possible, possible element of the delay in the delivery of the f-16, because we here in ukraine need, as they say, to receive them and put in those places for storage. and for use so that the occupiers do not get them with their missile strikes. let's start with the fact that our society perceives the preparation of airfields for the reception of f-16 aircraft as a big construction. in fact, it should be noted here that airplanes require maintenance and being at any airfield that can provide protection due to air defense means can provide radar means for takeoff and landing. for example, in bad weather conditions or some other specific means and provide the aircraft

with refueling, maintenance and, for example, under the carriage and fixing of the combat equipment, therefore, in principle, it should be noted that most airfields of ukraine are ready to receive f-16 aircraft, in principle, they only provide for the acquisition of certain equipment that would provide these aircraft, and in principle , protection directly by means of anti-aircraft. because if we talk about fast targets, then they can be shot down due to, for example, air defense systems that can fight against ballistic missiles, aeroballistic missiles, the rest for... is destroyed due to the lifting of these aircraft and or deployment to other airfields or on even well, raising and protecting the airspace, so in principle it should be noted here that i had the opportunity to be in baghdad when there was a military operation of the united states, iraq freedom

of use, that is, there are no such hangars there or any... complex equipment in order to protect airplanes or helicopters, so in principle it is important to have air defense and the ability to lift all the airplanes that are on the airfield. i sincerely thank you for your thoughts, your expert assessment of the situation and actually with anti-aircraft defense, with the attacks of the russian federation against ukraine. anatoly hrabchynskyi, the deputy general director of the company owned by rebo, and an aviation expert was on the live air of the espresso tv channel. we have a short break and will be back in a few minutes with new guests, new analytics and new information, don't wait. tingling, numbness

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is back, live, and we continue our analysis with the guests of our program, so now... ihor semivolos joins us, director of the center for middle eastern studies. mr. igor, we are glad to welcome you. congratulations. here, the secretary of state of the united states of america, anthony blinken, stated that israel and hamas are allegedly close to a truce. this is what he stated, partly the american press and american online publications are talking about it. in the same time we see that the peace plan for ukraine is published by johnson and allegedly says that this, conditionally speaking, can be

trump's peace plan, yes, well, these are the parallels, so to speak, we have now, mr. igor, how do you generally evaluate the proximity this truce, possible, is it really possible to implement it between israel and hamas, in the meantime, or will it all be disrupted and postponed for a certain period? well, the problem is that there have already been many such rumors about a truce, yes, that is, for almost several months we have been watching the attempts of both the american administration, first of all, and the arab countries, first of all egypt, just... to organize such truce, so far it is rather further than we want, and because netanyahu's positions exist, there is

the position of the far-right members of the israeli government, there are several political decisions that the israeli government has taken recently, which create serious future problems in general for the negotiations between the between the palestinians and the israelis, and what speaks for the possible benefit of, or rather, the fact that such an agreement can be signed, and it is obvious that this is the statement of the military that if such an agreement is signed, then most likely the situation in the north of israel near the lebanese the border is normalized. this is the whole reasoning, well quite appropriate, given the fact that hezbollah has repeatedly in their, well

, hezbollah leaders repeatedly emphasized in their speeches that they are conducting hostilities against israel in response to the israeli war in gaza, er, that is, this aspect is taken into account by the representatives of the israel defense forces, and from their side, we're just hearing support for efforts to make a deal with hamas, but if we're just theorizing, what do you think that deal might be, or at least some drafts of the deal, maybe what, what's meant by that, so what's up, if about that says the secretary of state of the united states of america, so he has some minimal idea of ​​his own. about it, what, what, how it should look in general, whether it is some kind of temporary or permanent, or there will be some postulates that will really be taken into account, at least

partially. interests of the parties, how do you see it? well, there is no other agreement than trump's proposal, yes, that is, we must understand, this is a three-stage period, the exchange of hostages, the cessation of hostilities in gaza, the gradual withdrawal of israeli troops from gaza, and the complete cessation of war and the day after, so the problem actually is that there is no such day after, that is, all these... discussions , mostly most of the parties focus on the first and partly on the second stage, but it is not clear what to do next. hamas, by the way, most likely agrees to a technocratic government, to the fact that it will lose power in the sector, but the israelis in this case would like to control, continue to control, the gas sector, if not directly, then

at least indirectly. and this clearly contradicts the same plan of the americans. i think it is the question will certainly be raised during natanya's visit, if it takes place, and if biden, of course, recovers the answer. that is, all these issues will be discussed. the key question is what will happen after that. that is, what will be the post-war gas recovery plan, the post-war settlement plan. the israelis are now taking certain steps that are leveling the plan, so to speak. biden, here is the scandalous decision of the israeli government that they are abandoning the two stage solution, netanyahu's statement that the west bank of the jordan river is originally israeli territory and the like, but i think that this is an increase in the stakes for the start of negotiations with the americans, that is, after all , we somehow see that a more real

truce, a more real agreement. can be either closer to the presidential elections in the usa, or most likely even after, so if i think, you know, i i i will not risk making predictions at all, because netanyahu's strategy is to delay negotiations and delay decisions, and this is clear in counting on the fact that trump will come, and he expects that trump is easier will negotiate, and he will be able to get better terms. but since they are not completely sure that trump will win, of course they will put their eggs in different baskets and continue to negotiate with biden in the expectation that they will still not be able to reach a full agreement before the election, especially when it comes to the day after, well, as far as i understand, there is also a certain political component, and it consists in the fact that benjamin netanyahu, in principle...

would like to stay longer in his chair and the actual resolution of this issue, or rather the non -resolution of this issue, will prolong his stay in the chair, as far as i have no doubt, he is a political animal, known, yes, that is, he is absolutely fixated on his power and his stays in the chair, and therefore it is clear that this is the primary task that he sees in front of him. another topic i would like to talk about with you is... here is the exchange of attacks, the houthis actually attacked israel, tel aviv, israel responded with a fairly powerful strike yesterday against the positions of the houthis in yemen. as here is your assessment of this situation, it may lead to further escalation between the yemeni houthis and israel, is this such, how to say, more correctly, a basic action, so to

speak, and can this include, well, in principle, they have already included israel's allies , there is at least the united states of america, the united kingdom, someone else, maybe? well, i want to point out that the international coalition, which is designed to ensure freedom of navigation in the red sea, refused at one time to say yes to the port of al hudeida precisely because it the only port in... in yemen that accepts humanitarian cargo, what israel has done, of course, it endangers the very existence of, well or na...