the opinion that the pressure on him is increasing, but he still firmly intends to continue participating in the presidential race, the presidential race. well, in principle, on the other hand, almost everyone who commented on the situation said that this weekend could be decisive, it really became decisive. the reason, well, first of all... is that the members of the united states house of representatives and the united states senate, who saw their chances of re-election becoming significantly more difficult, joined the pressure. heavyweights ee democratic establishment and, above all , non-syllogism. apparently, finally such

results of public opinion polls were shown to biden, and he made this decision, and it is very important that, obviously, he relied on the opinion of his closest circle, this is his family, his closest advisers, who probably also said that there is no. .. the need to withdraw from the presidential race, well, plus i do not rule out that his physical condition, although they said that he is recovering from covid, is not the best, and he made such an absolutely, in my opinion, well-founded conclusion, and it is necessary to his credit, it was obviously a very difficult decision, but he found the courage to make it. mr. oleg, after

all, i already mentioned about this that even despite the situation when there was enormous pressure on biden, still, even as of yesterday, every day we watched the ratings, we watched the dynamics, anyway, biden actually had a chance and trump. 50 for 50, well, we will not take those bookmakers there and so on, you know, it’s not very serious, but as for the ratings, he still had potential to get at least a win, at least for well we understand that he shouldn't have been a complete failure according to the ratings, so why did the democrats pressure him all this time to drop out of the presidential race? well, you correctly

noticed that the issue here is the extent of the defeat, and when it became clear that there could be a defeat not only in the presidential race, races, but also in the senate, in the house of representatives, then the democrats sounded the alarm, firstly, in the second, in principle, really, if you take overall national results, then... remains tight, but i 'm sure the biggest concern, i'd say even panic, in the democratic establishment is the fact that the trump-to-trump gap continues, even widens, in the so-called variables states, swingels, if they are sometimes called battleground states, and precisely the voters of all states. will determine the fate

of the presidential election, and this margin has not only increased, and it has remained, but the number of those states in which changed from democratic in the state, to changing states, where there is no advantage of any party, obviously, this number of states increased and... especially as i understood , the statistics for 14 states caused concern, here the margin really increased , biden's position worsened and i think this was the last straw that forced the democrats and their leadership to act decisively, and if we are talking about the successors?

in the presidential race, the vice president was called the most likely candidate of the united states. america's kamalu harris, although there were also questions about her ratings, some polls showed that she is not exactly popular in the united states of america in general, she is not supposedly charismatic there, and so on and so forth. so, mr. oleg, who do you think the democrats can choose as a presidential candidate from their political force. it will be kamala harris, or it is possible, it will be one of the governors, or it can be for a completely different candidacy, which we do not even know yet, but i will start with of the latter, so far no

such unexpected candidates have been named, well, now it looks like, according to inertia , haris is considered the main precedent, but... the closer, i noticed, the closer the situation developed to biden removing himself from the presidential the race, the more often the statement, about the doubt that harris can get a victory over trump, her lag behind trump, well , formally, it is small, this is also the last i saw 3%, that is... it is about as at biden's. on the other hand, this is my subjective opinion opinion. i believe that haris has not proven herself for the position of vice president, she is a rather weak and uncharismatic politician. in her favor is also the fact that

she is, as they say, women of women of color, that is, she is a woman, that is, she was shot. not so simple, along with how surprisingly, i say not surprisingly, because it absolutely did not manifest itself during the selection of a presidential candidate, there is a large enough bench of politicians who can be nominated instead of biden, and it is primarily about governors. and in particular it can be governor of california newson, it could be governor of pennsylvania shapira, some two or three other governors that are called, maybe one of the senators, but i think we'll find out just in the near future who

the frontrunners are, and now there's a very serious technical question, passed ... 14 million votes were cast for biden, that is, how to carry out the selection of candidates, and here is what i heard today, in principle there is no consensus, even among the leadership of the democratic party, this is a rather complicated process, and to there is very little time left for the congress, it is august 19, that is, now... the democrats will have to decide very quickly on the candidate for the vice president and, in fact , reformat the election campaign now, but if we are still talking about this technological

process , you just mentioned that biden was actually elected at the primaries and there by 100%. actually voted for him, it's, it's a huge number of people. how can it be done technologically now, in order for it to have legitimacy, well, in the eyes of both the democrats and in the eyes of independent voters, as well as in the eyes of american society in general, because holding primaries is a rather long process, if nominating a candidate in some other way without involvement. the general public of the democratic party, then this, too, may call into question a certain social legitimacy of the candidate, the candidate, what should the democrats do now and how can they implement it? indeed, a very difficult question, for

several days, i would say, even several weeks, i heard different opinions on this matter, which were expressed, as i understand it... the question well it will definitely even be decided at the convention in the rules of the convention, although the primaries, well, this is the basis for... nomination, at the same time , the delegates have the opportunity to vote as they see fit, that is, there is a certain possibility, a loophole for that , in order not to be bound by the decision, especially since biden himself refused to participate, the idea of ​​such mini primaries, of some large... gatherings of members of, excuse me, the democratic party, that is,

i think , which will now show political creativity, how to conduct a mini-primary, it is difficult for me to say, for this you need to be a member of the leadership of the democratic party, but what i heard is the holding of either mini-primaries, or large gatherings, or both, meetings of democratic members. party, but really there is practically no time left for that, and it is quite interesting that today there was an interview with the speaker of the house of representatives johnson, and he said that in principle, we republicans think that this is not very democratic, and the primaries have passed , nominated a candidate, and now this decision will be canceled, somehow it comes out sloppily. er, and because for the republicans now biden would be the best candidate because

they know how to fight him, if there is any strong candidate, it will make it seriously difficult for the republicans, the more the choice, the performance and the choice are made, well, he was clear, and trump's speech at the republican convention just showed his weakness again, that is , half of it was normal, that is, here we are, he tried to show himself as a new person after the assassination attempt, that is, which has changed its mind a lot, stands for unity, but most of this record -breaking speech in terms of duration was again devoted to his claims and... elections and for competitors and so on, that is, in principle,

he has an internal weakness, and i understand that the democrats expect to win, well, here is the latest information, 12 minutes ago, as we speak, joe biden again published another post on the x social network, and he addressed. no longer to all citizens of the united states, but to the democrats. he wrote: my dear democrats. i decide not to run for president of the united states of america. but he writes that he actually supports kamala harris as a candidate for office. the president of the united states of america, that is, we are here by the way, on the screens you can

see this post on the social network x, and in fact he says that he thinks it is necessary to support her in the nomination of the democratic party this year, he wrote in short, this ... unite and, relatively speaking, defeat or beat trump, so to speak say, so and so another statement by biden was made, that is, after all, yes, yes, mr. oleg, sorry, i interrupted, it is clear that the word and the political weight of biden, they are big, and this is definitely beneficial. .. harris, on the other hand, is unlikely and hard to imagine

him not supporting harris since she is his vice president, but i think this is not the end, and we will see in the near future who he will choose first for the entire leadership of the democratic party, and that is, yes, and for all americans, biden is because of what i am read at least he's... he's going to address next week, and by the way, he's taking responsibility for everything they're accusing biden of, and secondly... uh, it's clear, her political weight and popularity not not like, not like biden's political weight and popularity, and in general trump's treatment of harris is quite so mocking, uh, the last, the last i heard from him, he was calling her just crazy, well it's his style, so

basically, i think if she's nominated. then er, they will consider it right or wrong, we will see, it is also an acceptable option for us. well, let's actually see about this situation, yes, i would like to talk with you about one more topic, it concerns, of course, mr. johnson, boris johnson, yes, the great former prime minister. britain, the former leader of the conservatives, why today the whole country is talking about him, because he published his column in one of the mass media of great britain, and he announced there allegedly, either his plan or trump's plan, in different ways it

is interpreted, and people interpret it in different ways, both experts and means. information, but actually this peace plan, it was made public, this opinion was made public, and it caused a rather large, stormy reaction among ukrainian society, some support it, some do not support it, some support it partially, in short, johnson's peace plan there provides that in fact , russia gains control over... that part of ukraine that was occupied until february 24, 2022 . johnson says that ukraine should be in nato according to this plan. the armed forces of ukraine can be stationed, more precisely 70,000 of our defenders, or representatives of the armed forces

of ukraine can be stationed in europe or in the european union instead of american ones. troops, and johnson said such a very controversial thing, which probably resonated the most in ukrainian society, that is, that certain measures should be taken in ukraine to protect russian-speakers, we understand that there is a great deal of caution about this, and in general there is great caution regarding the implementation of this plan, less so, mr. oleg, what do you... think, should we it is necessary to react to this, to this plan, the way we react, is it just some kind of, well , private opinion, can it really be trump’s plan, or is it some kind of political ping pong with russia and a pass to putin in order to also

it is possible to demonstrate trump's position that it was in general and should ... we should worry about it, i think that first of all this is a kind of pr move by johnson, who is now obviously looking for, well, sorry, who is now looking for a place in this life, it is necessary to treat it carefully, because it arose and was made public at least after the meeting with trump, some of us wrote that this is even trump's plan, i don't think, but i do not rule out that it was discussed with trump, that is , this plan does not

look serious, so thorough, there are such very controversial provisions with ... on the one hand , he believes that trump will come from a position of strength, solve all the issues and give the appropriate permissions to ukraine and stop the delay in providing military assistance of a certain type and so on, and this will influence putin and he will be forced to leave there, by the way. said at least up to the borders of the 22nd year, this is a rather strange statement about 70 thousand ukrainians who will replace americans. and in this way the american troops will be freed and the american costs will be reduced, that is, it looks a bit like a certain vinegar, especially

since you drew attention to the fact that there are such measures as protection, there are special additional points for the protection of russian speakers, in addition to this, i drew attention , what is actually said there about... returning to business as usual with russia, building normal relations with it again, although it is clear that just for the only chance to get out of this war on terms acceptable to ukraine and its partners is to deprive russia of the opportunity to intimidate and carry out aggression against ukraine, and then against... the west and european countries as a whole, that is, i will say it, i will say it again , it certainly has to be looked at, because i'll emphasize again,

obviously this was discussed with trump, but the way it looks, it really doesn't look like a plan, it looks like a certain vinaigrette or lion's mane, whatever you want to call it , i don't think it was a plan for putin either pass. towards putin, and i think that this is primarily an attempt to make such a powerful pr move in favor of boris johnson himself. but it is really bad that some such thoughts that resonate, well, maybe with common sense, appear in the press and are seriously discussed, because we well understand that how it will look for us if... russia fully or even will not fully return to the j8, to some types of economic cooperation,

and in general, we understand that humanitarian policy for ukraine, information policy, language policy is also the red line, i can't imagine how it can be done in ukraine in general, and what kind of disturbance this disunity will cause in ukrainian society in general, that's why it's bad. that such thoughts appear, i absolutely agree with you, that is, if you look at this plan, then its parts do not connect with each other, the puzzle does not even come together, that is, there are absolutely, i would say parts that exclude each other, this is me b would say that this du very much agree with you, it is very bad that it appears, and just now when there are talks again about the need for negotiations with russia, solving some problems diplomatically, at the same time,

in my opinion, the situation is really critical now, but the way to solve the situation on terms acceptable to us must be sought through increased aid to ukraine and inflicting a deep military defeat on russia, the other, any other option is a path to nowhere. oleg, thank you very much for your thoughts, your analysis, for being on the air of the espresso tv channel, oleg shamshur, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america in 2005-2010, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary to france in 2014-2020. great return of great lviv. conversations, discussions, search for solutions. the largest talk format of ukraine in the evening prime. in general, i think we

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doctor of philosophy, i welcome you. you see, congratulations, mr. yevgeny, well, a really large amount of time has passed since the beginning of a full-scale invasion, and what are the conclusions of scientists today regarding, well, in essence, attitudes in society, is this a desire for negotiations or further to victory? well, you know, here are the latest research results that i had to comment on, they indicate not just an alternative or negotiations. or victory, rather the other, that is, half of them are already almost there, 47% want negotiations, and everyone wants victory, you know that, and what is more interesting is that her victory, in the understanding of the vast majority of ukrainians, is an exit to the borders of 14th year, that is, the return of all those

occupied by russia. territory, that is, it is somewhere in in ukraine as a whole, it is for 80%, there it seems to be 87, and even in each region, although with certain differences there, all the same, the vast majority still believes that all the occupied territories are a condition for any negotiations in general. well, do people in society today have... well, more of a clear idea, you already said that at the border of 1991, a clear idea of ​​what victory is, maybe for someone victory is to end the war now, maybe on those conditions that will be put forward, on those borders that now exist, there are such people, of course there are such people, and there are many of them, this is also a victory in their opinion, maybe it was possible, no, everyone has their own idea of ​​victory, just like that, yes, here it is impossible to say that victory is something clearly defined,

even. politicians have no idea, i can tell you, and politicians won't tell you, for some it's a victory, it's just going to the border, but let's say, others say, no, if we're not in nato, it won't be a victory , it will simply be a postponement of a new war, that's what they say, yes, that's what i say, that's the way it is politicians say, yes, that is , politicians have different opinions, and ordinary people also have different opinions, this is normal, we have a pluralistic society, different approaches, the only thing i want to say is why i think that... so victory is thought to be overwhelming for the most part, after all, as the return of all territories, this is definitely the case, but in what way it can be, here it is more difficult, someone says about negotiations, someone says to go to the end, no negotiations with the aggressor, with the occupier and so on, so on, here there are different opinions, well, there is already somewhere, i say more than 40% already agree to conduct negotiations, well, this is

exactly this number, if i am not mistaken. well, if 44% now support the state of transition, but of course not on putin's terms, then what terms of negotiations are currently being discussed among the citizens, you know what i want to tell you, the citizens are not at all concerned with how we will win, they think so and here there is... the meaning is that in democratic societies , authority is delegated to the government, we elect the government, it is already authorized to solve these issues, whether diplomatically , diplomatically, or militarily, in any way, but this it's her business, and there is a reason for it, and when we sometimes, you know, they say that people are irresponsible,